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Title: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Otaking on November 04, 2016, 06:08:29 AM
Watchmojo's channel has a massive amount viewers so congratulations to the retro games youtubers who made their top 10 list, simply as with that exposure they should get a shit ton more subscribers.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Retro MJM on November 04, 2016, 07:13:52 AM
Of those mentioned, I'm subbed to Happy Console Gamer, Metal Jesus, Game Sack, Gaming Historian, Pat (for their podcast topics, mainly), LGR, and AVGN; Happy Console Gamer, Game Sack, Gaming Historian, and LGR are my favorites of the 10 ranked channels. Super Bunnyhop (honorable mention on the video) doesn't really count as a retro gaming channel as he mainly talks modern video games; awesome channel, though. AVGN is enjoyable, but has declined over the years, same with Classic Game Room; that said, I feel they still belong on the list.
I would have included Spida1a, Derek Anderson (Happy Video Game Nerd), Retro Core, Kim Justice, and Lukemorse1. I probably would also include John's Arcade as he specializes in arcade hardware, even if he gives off an annoying Adam Richman-vibe.
I feel Twitch >>> YouTube in terms of gaming content, especially given all the copyright BS YouTube has; my subbed Twitch channels are Dead_Flip (pinball), The Mexcian Runner (NES speedrunner and a Chrontendo-like series, NESMania), LordBBH (MAME streamer), Macaw (streamer of obscure games and consoles) and soon-to-be Puri_Puri (Playstation, Saturn, and Dreamcast streamer).
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: ClodBuster on November 04, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
f*ck watchmojo, worst top ten list whore channel of all times.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Necromancer on November 04, 2016, 09:16:44 AM
Agreed. They're all top ten click bait trash.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 04, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
What an incredibly hollow concept.
Great, I'm depressed now.
What's most pathetic about stuff like this is that there is honestly a TON of incredibly good shit on YouTube. I watch it constantly. I recently discovered AvN and Synthesizer Dave, both amazing. The idea of a crappy game wall show with enough clout to make or break 10 of the 10 million other shitty game wall shows with some kind of...award game wall show or something is like...who f*cking cares?! Especially in 2016, where there aren't even 10 good game developers left.
Wankery, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Gredler on November 04, 2016, 01:00:25 PM
f*ck watchmojo, worst top ten list whore channel of all times.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Jibbajaba on November 04, 2016, 06:59:54 PM
I didn't make the list? Bullshit video.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: HuMan on November 04, 2016, 09:13:19 PM
lol
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: MrBroadway on November 05, 2016, 02:31:06 AM
I enjoy some of their lists, if only for nostalgia's sake or diving into something new, but this is incredibly unnecessary. They must have run out of "Top 10 songs to drive you crazy" and "Top 10 celebrity nude scenes."
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 05, 2016, 03:53:41 AM
Especially in 2016, where there aren't even 10 good game developers left.
roflmao
There are not 10 good game developers? That's an amazing statement and opinion.
Sorry, that's not fair. I guess what I meant to say is that of all the makers of games I've enjoyed in my life, there aren't 10 of them left at this point. I was in a "retro" mindset and getting excited about game wall shows when the industry I knew and loved is a smoking ruin seems like bad taste.
It would have been better to say that all my favorite game developers have either gone out of business or worse and there aren't still 10 left that I care about.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 05, 2016, 03:56:55 AM
DUPLICATE POST.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: ccovell on November 05, 2016, 01:04:32 PM
Well, I'm sure we all know the experience, we see a video title:
"Top 10 _______ OF ALL TIME!"
and think "Great!" and sit down to watch it.
And the items in the list are from 2016, 2016, 2014, 2013, 2013, 2010, 2009, 2007, 2004, and... 1985.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: esteban on November 05, 2016, 01:40:52 PM
Well, I'm sure we all know the experience, we see a video title:
"Top 10 _______ OF ALL TIME!"
and think "Great!" and sit down to watch it.
And the items in the list are from 2016, 2016, 2014, 2013, 2013, 2010, 2009, 2007, 2004, and... 1985.
Hahahhahahajjha. Super Mario Bros.
And the kicker is that many of the contemporary games will not age well, and won't necessarily be considered "classics" 10-20 years from now.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: ClodBuster on November 05, 2016, 09:39:33 PM
f*ck johntron, he's so lameass boring. His acting is worse than Pat's. 2nd place? What cock did he have to suck to get that high in the ranking. Metaljesus, never watched that show, and this list didn't do any good to get me interested. Ahoy is OK for his Quake and Doom videos. His gun videos are interesting too. But his smart-arse pseudo documentary voice gets on the nerves quick. Pat and AVGN are just in the list because people would expect them to be there. And Gamesack? Who the hell are they anyway?
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Otaking on November 06, 2016, 12:04:58 AM
I watch the odd Watchmojo video every now and then, but I wouldn't say I was a big fan of the channel or anything. This thread was started as more of a commentary on the extra exposure and subs that retro games channels would receive from being on the list, in general with youtubers their total subscribers seems like a really big thing to them.
What's most pathetic about stuff like this is that there is honestly a TON of incredibly good shit on YouTube. I watch it constantly. I recently discovered AvN and Synthesizer Dave, both amazing. The idea of a crappy game wall show with enough clout to make or break 10 of the 10 million other shitty game wall shows with some kind of...award game wall show or something is like...who f*cking cares?! Especially in 2016, where there aren't even 10 good game developers left.
Wankery, pure and simple.
I'm suprised at this response as Pat and your's channel made the list, think of all the new subscribers to the Pat and Ian of Zeta channel.
Title: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: esteban on November 06, 2016, 01:10:19 AM
I watch the odd Watchmojo video every now and then, but I wouldn't say I was a big fan of the channel or anything. This thread was started as more of a commentary on the extra exposure and subs that retro games channels would receive from being on the list, in general with youtubers their total subscribers seems like a really big thing to them.
What's most pathetic about stuff like this is that there is honestly a TON of incredibly good shit on YouTube. I watch it constantly. I recently discovered AvN and Synthesizer Dave, both amazing. The idea of a crappy game wall show with enough clout to make or break 10 of the 10 million other shitty game wall shows with some kind of...award game wall show or something is like...who f*cking cares?! Especially in 2016, where there aren't even 10 good game developers left.
Wankery, pure and simple.
I'm suprised at this response as Pat and your's channel made the list, think of all the new subscribers to the Pat and Ian of Zeta channel.
I concur, GameSack will probably gain a lot of viewers...even if a percentage lose interest, some of the new folks will subscribe and become part of the GameSack family. And I am sure, for GameSack, it could represent a *significant* number of viewers (since they do not have—yet—millions of subscribers). :)
However, the more interesting aspect is that it highlights inherent problems in YouTube/Google itself...and how content creators and viewers are affected by Google's need to monetize, need to retain content creators, need to pay content creators as little as possible, need to recommend a stream of videos (remember, auto-recommendations + AUTOPLAY is, by design, a way to increase ad views...to impress corporate advertisers)... has watchmojo *ever* recommended a channel that produces *amazing content* that is published sporadically/rarely (but is *best in class*)? No. Advertisers, and Google, want *serialized* content with guaranteed audiences... no different than Old Media.
That's why the topic shifted very quickly...we are all irked by the institutional/structural incentives at Google that push "watchmojo" to the forefront.
I think that we were hoping, 20 years ago, for this medium (interwrbz) to be an improvement over older forms of media/distribution/entertainment.
Sadly, we realize now that all we have done is automate all the old bullshit into algorithms. So, we are faster, more efficient at promoting tripe. We encourage, reward folks for tripe... and punish them when popularity decreases. The fact that all recommendation engines/ad revenue/compensation is based solely on popularity...with quality of content being coincidental, at best, is a testament to how things have *not changed*... a few corporations control and influence what 99% of folks watch.
Watchmojo = a physical manifestation of Google's algorithms, self-reinforcing ad nauseum.
Isn't it sad that *this* is how Game Sack's viewership might increase?
This is like Fox News or Bloomberg News promoting Game Sack...
Sure, we are happy that GameSack can benefit... but how can we ignore everything that led to this moment?
We can't.
:)
Don't worry, we still love you.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Bloufo on November 06, 2016, 02:45:21 AM
Don't quote me but I think they might be this lot.
(http://i.imgur.com/7j9Cgyv.jpg)
:P
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 06, 2016, 05:35:54 AM
^Great frame grab. The girlfriend is for later.
We didn't gain massively from the video. Nobody ever really does. These videos don't get a ton of views. We did see an increase for a couple of days but it wasn't massive. I certainly won't complain about being included but what they showed is not what I'd show uninitiated viewers right away. Instead, they picked one episode, downloaded it and pulled clips from the middle and end of it.
Honestly videos like these are better for smaller channels. AVGN? Yeah everyone knows who he is. These videos should feature smaller, more unknown channels.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: sirhcman on November 06, 2016, 06:37:42 AM
Honestly videos like these are better for smaller channels. AVGN? Yeah everyone knows who he is. These videos should feature smaller, more unknown channels.
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2iaMSZAoBM
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: blueraven on November 06, 2016, 06:55:36 AM
I don't watch retrogaming shows. I saw one episode of AvN a few years ago and that was enough.
Guess I'll just sit here and watch this thread turn into a vomitorium.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: MrBroadway on November 06, 2016, 07:24:42 AM
I don't watch retrogaming shows. I saw one episode of AvN a few years ago and that was enough.
Guess I'll just sit here and watch this thread turn into a vomitorium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vomitorium
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Groover on November 06, 2016, 10:48:09 AM
Good to see Game Sack, only I would have it much higher on the list. Also I don't know about the rest of the list. Some I'm not to sure about. Everyone loves lists
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: nopepper on November 06, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
CGR, Gamesack, My life in gaming, retrocore, turbo views and CGQ are the cream of the crop.
Metal Jesus is a likable buffoon and his videos are sometimes interesting, but he is just such an ignorant dork sometimes, it's hard not to roll your eyes at sme of his comments.
Happy console gamer is sort of like metal Jesus, but more knowledgable while being less entertaining, for some reason.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: TheClash603 on November 06, 2016, 03:28:05 PM
I don't watch retrogaming shows. I saw one episode of AvN a few years ago and that was enough.
Guess I'll just sit here and watch this thread turn into a vomitorium.
When I look for a game video on YouTube and someone starts talking, I immediately turn it off and try to find a video that just shows the game with its actual in game audio. I occasionally will need to click on 2 or 3 videos before I am successful and it drives me f*cking nuts.
Almost as bad is when I want to see some gameplay and it is just a video of the intro or cinematics, hate that shit too.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: bartre on November 06, 2016, 03:52:59 PM
When I look for a game video on YouTube and someone starts talking, I immediately turn it off and try to find a video that just shows the game with its actual in game audio. I occasionally will need to click on 2 or 3 videos before I am successful and it drives me f*cking nuts.
Sadly that puts you and I in the minority. My younger cousin and I were talking games and I wanted to show her something about an arcade game I had coming so I pulled up a longplay video for it and her response was "why would anyone bother to upload a video without commentary? why would you watch that? like, what's the point?"
I had to explain to her that I find most of these "personalities" on YT annoying at best. IDGAF who the guy in the video corner is, I don't want to listen to them crack jokes that weren't funny when I was in high school.
HOWEVER- I do find it at least somewhat interesting when the person is trying to do something interesting, like a speedrun, as long as they're talking about what's going on within the game, IE - how certain glitches work.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: blueraven on November 06, 2016, 04:04:40 PM
When I look for a game video on YouTube and someone starts talking, I immediately turn it off and try to find a video that just shows the game with its actual in game audio. I occasionally will need to click on 2 or 3 videos before I am successful and it drives me f*cking nuts.
Almost as bad is when I want to see some gameplay and it is just a video of the intro or cinematics, hate that shit too.
When I look for a game video on YouTube and someone starts talking, I immediately turn it off and try to find a video that just shows the game with its actual in game audio. I occasionally will need to click on 2 or 3 videos before I am successful and it drives me f*cking nuts.
Sadly that puts you and I in the minority.
Agreed. Sadly.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Punch on November 06, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
Sadly that puts you and I in the minority. My younger cousin and I were talking games and I wanted to show her something about an arcade game I had coming so I pulled up a longplay video for it and her response was "why would anyone bother to upload a video without commentary? why would you watch that? like, what's the point?"
can someone throw a meteor on earth please thanks in advance
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: esteban on November 06, 2016, 04:46:20 PM
Sadly that puts you and I in the minority. My younger cousin and I were talking games and I wanted to show her something about an arcade game I had coming so I pulled up a longplay video for it and her response was "why would anyone bother to upload a video without commentary? why would you watch that? like, what's the point?"
can someone throw a meteor on earth please thanks in advance
I don't think anyone is currently playing SimEarth.
However, you can make a requests in the "What games are you playing?" thread.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: ClodBuster on November 06, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
When I look for a game video on YouTube and someone starts talking, I immediately turn it off and try to find a video that just shows the game with its actual in game audio. I occasionally will need to click on 2 or 3 videos before I am successful and it drives me f*cking nuts.
f*ck Let's plays. Longplays rule.
As I said once before, the only guy in the world that I like commenting while he's playing is GeminiLaser for his skillfull, entertaining, funny and memorable Megaman playthroughs.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Necromancer on November 07, 2016, 02:21:03 AM
Heh, I also watch mostly longplays. I just wanna see (and hear) the game, not listen to some blowhard stating the obvious, especially when said blowhard will only show the first stage or two because that's all the further his meager skills will take him.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: seieienbu on November 12, 2016, 05:35:29 AM
I'm happy to watch a skilled player play through a game. I dislike watching videos where people have shitty personalities so I'm generally not able to view most videos with commentary. I dislike when people talk about stuff and are wrong or are just irritating in general (see Metal Jesus on both counts).
What I can't watch at all is when someone is just bad at a game/doesn't know how to play and has no commentary. I figure if the guy with the mic is entertaining to watch then I can stand him being bad at the game but if he's bad and there's no commentary I just can't spend the time.
Title: Re: Watchmojo's Top 10 Retro Gaming YouTubers
Post by: Punch on November 12, 2016, 06:58:59 AM
Longplays are the best but they're quite annoying @ games you know well, since it gets obvious that they're nothing more than blind playthroughs + save states for the most part. Like the longplayer would play badly for the most part but suddenly do something impossible to escape death in the middle of the longplay, or playing the whole game without being aware of key game mechanics, etc.
Still beats watching a person saying "lol this game is bad" every 2 1/2 minutes.