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Title: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: johnnykonami on February 27, 2017, 02:35:25 AM
I got this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XSSDPO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I didn't already have an S-video cable for my Saturn, so why not?  I am going to also get a SCART cable for a Super Famicom in a week or two to get the best Super Gameboy setup I can get for my TV, and I may do RGB for my Duo one day too, so I should get some mileage out of this device granting it works well.  My TV maxes out at component, but if I ever get a PVM or a framemeister, I'll have the cables already.

I'm in the US, I have a model 2 Saturn (I had a launch Saturn that died on me back in the 90's), so it's NTSC.  I have read it needs c-sync for the model 2, is it just safe to assume and buy a csync cable?  The device above is euro scart.
 I think I also need one with a breakout for RCA audio, the ebay links from retroRGB.com didn't seem to have one with both, so I thought I'd come here and see if any of you guys knew a quality maker of these cables.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Dicer on February 27, 2017, 03:54:51 AM
This is of interest to me as well, I need cables for my Genny (32x) and my Saturn...
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: johnnykonami on February 27, 2017, 03:57:38 AM
I'm looking at these now to handle the RCA audio but still waiting for any insight from someone who may know better.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-Pass-Through-Adaptor-with-SVHS-3-Phono-RCA-UK-/250694512971?hash=item3a5e8eb14b:g:VIwAAOxyTjNSjMZo
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Bloufo on February 27, 2017, 04:04:14 AM
I'm looking at these now to handle the RCA audio but still waiting for any insight from someone who may know better.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-Pass-Through-Adaptor-with-SVHS-3-Phono-RCA-UK-/250694512971?hash=item3a5e8eb14b:g:VIwAAOxyTjNSjMZo


That one will do the job.

I also own one of these. Works as it should.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCART-SWITCHER-SELECTOR-SWITCH-BOX-CONNECT-3-WAY-DEVICES-2-1-SOCKET-AUDIO-RECORD-/381980609867?hash=item58efd18d4b:g:XJUAAOSw3R1XTgDX#shpCntId
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: SuperDeadite on February 27, 2017, 04:17:54 AM
I'm perfectly happy with the official Japanese jp21 pin cable, but depends on your setup really.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Bloufo on February 27, 2017, 04:25:25 AM
I got this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XSSDPO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Those CSY 2100 clones are decent but I've never come across one yet that I didn't need to open it up and do some color adjustment/correction. By default these have a kind of green tint issue.

I got this recently. Almost double the price but I feel it's definitely a step up from that other converter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191876964053?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Gypsy on February 27, 2017, 04:41:26 AM
I got this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XSSDPO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Those CSY 2100 clones are decent but I've never come across one yet that I didn't need to open it up and do some color adjustment/correction. By default these have a kind of green tint issue.

I got this recently. Almost double the price but I feel it's definitely a step up from that other converter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191876964053?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Build quality on this is decent: http://www.ani-av.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=53&products_id=220 Looks like they sold through stock and are waiting on more.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: johnnykonami on February 27, 2017, 04:42:39 AM
I got this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XSSDPO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Those CSY 2100 clones are decent but I've never come across one yet that I didn't need to open it up and do some color adjustment/correction. By default these have a kind of green tint issue.

I got this recently. Almost double the price but I feel it's definitely a step up from that other converter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191876964053?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Nice, I didn't know about that one.  I read about adjusting the color pots and I'm ok with that, I'm a little bit of a tweaker by nature so I'd probably done that no matter what given the option.  The only problem would be if that no amount of adjustment could come to a satisfactory conclusion, but it sounds like others had no problems getting it to a place where they liked.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: sirhcman on February 27, 2017, 04:49:13 AM
Here is a thread I started on good scart switchers. Some good information in this thread by people here

https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=21324.0
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Arkhan on February 27, 2017, 05:26:02 AM
I got a POS 3$ one off ebay, and use a Euro to JP convertor that I got from RetroGamingCables.uk.duder or whatever.


Any "Saturn RGB cable" you find on eBay should work.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: SuperDeadite on February 27, 2017, 11:15:59 AM
I got a POS 3$ one off ebay, and use a Euro to JP convertor that I got from RetroGamingCables.uk.duder or whatever.


Any "Saturn RGB cable" you find on eBay should work.

NTSC and PAL Saturns actually have a different pinout on the video out port itself.  So if you want a Euro SCART for an NTSC Saturn, you need a different cable from a Euro SCART meant for a PAL Saturn.  It's Sega's stupidity at it's finest.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Arkhan on February 27, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
I got a POS 3$ one off ebay, and use a Euro to JP convertor that I got from RetroGamingCables.uk.duder or whatever.


Any "Saturn RGB cable" you find on eBay should work.

NTSC and PAL Saturns actually have a different pinout on the video out port itself.  So if you want a Euro SCART for an NTSC Saturn, you need a different cable from a Euro SCART meant for a PAL Saturn.  It's Sega's stupidity at it's finest.

Really?  Shit, I must have got lucky then.

I got a Euro SCART cable for my JP Saturn, and it worked once I put the JP21<->Euro dongle on it.

That's pretty dumb
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: johnnykonami on February 27, 2017, 12:08:39 PM
I got a POS 3$ one off ebay, and use a Euro to JP convertor that I got from RetroGamingCables.uk.duder or whatever.


Any "Saturn RGB cable" you find on eBay should work.

NTSC and PAL Saturns actually have a different pinout on the video out port itself.  So if you want a Euro SCART for an NTSC Saturn, you need a different cable from a Euro SCART meant for a PAL Saturn.  It's Sega's stupidity at it's finest.

Thanks for this heads up!  I hadn't bought one yet.  I did buy a few passthroughs though, I think that will be fine, they should be wired to the euro standard so I can get RCA audio out.  Bought some cheapo ones from ebay, they were estimated like a 2 month shipping time though...
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: ClodBuster on February 27, 2017, 06:49:49 PM
This page from the GameSX wiki might also be helpful when either rewiring an existing cable or building your own from scratch:
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:saturnav
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: wildfruit on February 28, 2017, 07:34:18 AM
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/saturn
I had one of these when I had a JP Saturn. Also I have mega drive and PS1 scarts from this place.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: SignOfZeta on February 28, 2017, 08:00:04 AM
I just made my own cable and hacked a DB9 into the back of the Saturn. Compared to a Duo this is dead easy. The SCART connector design is kind of a POS and most aftermarket cables I've seen aren't even up to the very low standard set for them by 1970s French engineers.

Personally, I'd rather manually switch a cable than pollute the signal (and air) with a pile of smelly sub-Harbor Freight plastic and shitty wiring.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Black Tiger on February 28, 2017, 08:06:09 AM
retrogamecables is the best and you choose whether or not you want c-sync.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Groover on February 28, 2017, 08:26:41 AM
I bought all mine on eBay from a seller retro_console_accessories. I have a c-sync and a sync on luma for my saturnes. My model 2 Saturn prefers the sync on luma.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: xelement5x on February 28, 2017, 09:32:49 AM
I bought all mine on eBay from a seller retro_console_accessories. I have a c-sync and a sync on luma for my saturnes. My model 2 Saturn prefers the sync on luma.

Dan recommended this seller to me as well.  I'm looking to then when I get SNES cables and a better Saturn cable probably. 
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Gypsy on February 28, 2017, 10:44:05 AM
I bought all mine on eBay from a seller retro_console_accessories. I have a c-sync and a sync on luma for my saturnes. My model 2 Saturn prefers the sync on luma.

I used this seller for my Genny and Saturn cables. Zero issues.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: in99flames on February 28, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
I bought all mine on eBay from a seller retro_console_accessories. I have a c-sync and a sync on luma for my saturnes. My model 2 Saturn prefers the sync on luma.
Ditto. All my SCART cables i bought through them. Great build quality and great video quality. A few years ago i stumbled across Retrorgb.com which led me to that scart cable seller/maker. Awesome resource for all RGB on older systems. Hope this helps any!
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Bloufo on March 02, 2017, 01:43:17 AM
I got this recently. Almost double the price but I feel it's definitely a step up from that other converter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191876964053?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Nice, I didn't know about that one.


BTW, last I heard from that seller (today) was that he was going to pull that listing.
Apparently, he's been in talks with some "technical people" in the community and needs to make some tweaks. Whatever that means.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Artabasdos on March 21, 2017, 12:10:43 AM
I got this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XSSDPO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I didn't already have an S-video cable for my Saturn, so why not?  I am going to also get a SCART cable for a Super Famicom in a week or two to get the best Super Gameboy setup I can get for my TV, and I may do RGB for my Duo one day too, so I should get some mileage out of this device granting it works well.  My TV maxes out at component, but if I ever get a PVM or a framemeister, I'll have the cables already.

I'm in the US, I have a model 2 Saturn (I had a launch Saturn that died on me back in the 90's), so it's NTSC.  I have read it needs c-sync for the model 2, is it just safe to assume and buy a csync cable?  The device above is euro scart.
 I think I also need one with a breakout for RCA audio, the ebay links from retroRGB.com didn't seem to have one with both, so I thought I'd come here and see if any of you guys knew a quality maker of these cables.

Just get one from an EU eBay seller. As long as it's RGB, you're laughing.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: esadajr on March 23, 2017, 10:35:37 AM
You sure s-video is not enough?

Seriously though what others said retro_console_accessories makes good quality ones.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: geise on March 24, 2017, 06:22:05 AM
I bought my scart cable for my model 1 saturn from this gal.  http://ebay.com/itm/Sega-Saturn-stereo-csync-RGB-SCART-cable-for-NTSC-model-Saturn-lead-cord-/161614608138?nav=SEARCH She is awesome.  Her cables are high quality.  She does different sync versions so let her know your model, what you are hooking up to, and she will point you in the right direction on which cable to buy from her. Super fast on the shipping as well.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Bloufo on March 24, 2017, 06:53:40 AM
Build quality on this is decent: http://www.ani-av.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=53&products_id=220 Looks like they sold through stock and are waiting on more.


Thanks for that link.

Mine arrived the other day. It's sturdily made, no doubt. As you mentioned- good built quality.

I'm happy with it. One of the better RGB SCART to Component converters that I've used thus far.




(http://i66.tinypic.com/4t90n6.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: glazball on March 30, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/saturn
I had one of these when I had a JP Saturn. Also I have mega drive and PS1 scarts from this place.

I know I'm late to the thread, but I'd like to vouch for these guys as well.  They do great work and respond quickly to inquiries, unlike the other RGB cable seller based out of Florida.
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Dicer on April 26, 2017, 06:25:16 AM
Bumping this:

While waiting for my Saturn cable, but my other cables came in, picture is awesome but no sound
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tQQAAMXQAEFSD-4B/s-l1600.jpg)
and this
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FUEAAOSw2xRYhukO/s-l1600.jpg)

Any ideas?

Audio is there but very hissy and can barely hear any actual FX
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: sirhcman on April 26, 2017, 06:55:05 AM
I have that Scart to BNC cable and have no issues. Have you tried plugging/unplugging the scart ends for both cables?
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Dicer on April 26, 2017, 11:29:06 AM
I have that Scart to BNC cable and have no issues. Have you tried plugging/unplugging the scart ends for both cables?

I'm gonna check the pins and try again, the guy that sent the PVM cable assured me it was tested, so it's probably the genny cable.

Either way the picture is the TITS.

Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: Groover on April 26, 2017, 03:04:08 PM
Has the OP bought the cables yet? Did he take the advise or buy shitty cheap cables anyway after asking?


Also here is a good SCART to Component adaptor Bob from RetroRGB.com likes. I trust his opinion as he tests so much stuff.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191876964053?rmvSB=true
(http://retrorgb.com/images/RetrotekSCBV1P3.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone recommend a good source for a SCART cable for the Saturn?
Post by: zetastrike on May 14, 2017, 02:29:28 AM
I've been using these S-video cables with my PVM and it's great fwiw.  I didn't feel like jumping down the RGB rabbit hole yet.  It's a huge step up from composite and they aren't those cheapo retrobit cables that have s-video and composite.  They're handmade by some dude in poland.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Quality-Sega-Saturn-Svideo-s-video-AV-Cable-for-PAL-NTSC-U-USA-NTSC-J-JP-/172635799660?hash=item2831e5406c:g:ifAAAOSwWxNYnruR