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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: rolins on October 16, 2006, 03:27:34 PM

Title: WOOMB.net - MSX games
Post by: rolins on October 16, 2006, 03:27:34 PM
Great news. WOOMB, the partner of D4E's Amusement Center, has now got a lineup of MSX games for customers outside of Japan. All games and manuals are now localized, meaning they're in english.

They now have Neo Golvellius in English too! 

http://www.woomb.net (http://www.woomb.net/)
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: grahf on October 16, 2006, 04:56:06 PM
Once they finally release that single-chip-MSX, im going to be all over this.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on October 16, 2006, 05:00:52 PM
:D This makes me happy
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: Keranu on October 16, 2006, 05:05:57 PM
Do you pay to download these games or something or is it an actual package they ship? I am confused.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: rolins on October 16, 2006, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: "Keranu"
Do you pay to download these games or something or is it an actual package they ship? I am confused.

Nothing is mailed to you. You pay a fee and download the games to your computer, and run them using their launcher program. The manuals are on pdf format and they're free when you purchase the game. The extra goodies are available for registered members only.

At the moment I plan on getting Neo Golvellius, I've never been able to finish that game in japanese. I might also grab Aleste 2 just so I can finally read the dialogue and understand the back story.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: Keranu on October 16, 2006, 08:18:56 PM
That sounds pretty cool still. Can someone please explain the One Chip MSX a little more to me? What I really want to know about it is if you can play original MSX games on it, like the cartridges and floppies?
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: akamichi on October 16, 2006, 11:25:45 PM
I wonder if these localized versions will be available on the Wii?

I actually got to play with that one-chip MSX console at TGS.  It was pretty cool.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: rolins on October 17, 2006, 03:53:33 AM
Quote from: "Keranu"
That sounds pretty cool still. Can someone please explain the One Chip MSX a little more to me? What I really want to know about it is if you can play original MSX games on it, like the cartridges and floppies?


The OCM is cool machine. The whole MSX2 system is built into a single FPGA chip, which means if you know VHDL programming you can create any video game console you want, right down to the circuit level and it's more accurate than software emulation. Create a Nes, MegaDrive, Atari, PC-Engine, just about anything. A great example is Kevtris's Nes console that he programed inside a FPGA (http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/console/index.html). The same could possibly done on the OCM.

Anyway, the OCM can definitely play original games thru the two cartidge ports that it has. If you want to use the original floppy games then you'll need to use an external disk drive via cartridge port, which are quite expensive. Otherwise you can play them using disk images from the SD/MMC flash memory port.

Original msx controllers can also be used and it has two controller ports built-in. Atari, SMS, and Genesis controllers can be used but you'll have to modify them to get two fire buttons working. The keyboard is connected thru the PS/2 port. There's two USB ports on the OCM but they're not working. It's there for expansion possibilities and if you want to use them then you'll have to program them using VHDL code.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: FM-77 on October 17, 2006, 05:38:59 AM
They're SELLING pirated games? This is a disgrace.  :o  Somebody needs to upload these games to stop this madness. Sharing pirated games is one thing, but actually SELLING them...  :?

Edit: Looks like they're not pirated, but I still think this is insane - I doubt they have Compile's (now Compile Heart) licenses.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: rolins on October 17, 2006, 09:15:19 AM
Compile and Compile Heart are not the same company, Seldane. Most likely they're possibly former employees of Compile or avid fans.

Moo Niitani + other former Compile employees, and remaining Compile licences were transfered to Aiky.

---EDITED; forget what I said above.

Compile Heart doesn't own any of Compile's licenses. When Compile went down, Moo Niitani setup a new company called Aiky. The remaining Compile licenses to Zanac, Aleste, Disc Station, Golvellius, etc were transfered to Aiky.

Aiky now lets D4E, the owners of Amusement Center, to distribute old Compile games. And since Bazix's WOOB is a partner of D4E they have the right to distribute Compile games too.

Afaik Compile Heart has no association to the former Compile or Aiky. They seem to be avid fans or possibly former employees.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 17, 2006, 11:41:18 AM
Quote from: "Keranu"
That sounds pretty cool still. Can someone please explain the One Chip MSX a little more to me? What I really want to know about it is if you can play original MSX games on it, like the cartridges and floppies?


Yeah, it plays carts, but I'm not sure how you'd play floppies since it has no drive, and no MSX-era I/O other than joystick. It has USB ports though, so I suppose there is some way to run an image or something.

English info: http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx.html
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: rolins on October 17, 2006, 11:59:08 AM
Quote from: "SignOfZeta"

Yeah, it plays carts, but I'm not sure how you'd play floppies since it has no drive, and no MSX-era I/O other than joystick. It has USB ports though, so I suppose there is some way to run an image or something.

English info: http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx.html

If you look the post I made earlier I answer most of these questions. Floppies can be used but only if you use an external disk drive via the cartridge port.

Disk images can be ran from SD/MMC cards using the flash memory port.

A keyboard can be connected thru a PS/2 port and a mouse thru one of the joystick ports.

The USB ports, is not utilized right now. They're just there for expansion possibilities. If you want to use them then you'll have to program them using VHDL code.

I'm still wondering if it's possible to connect a data recorder so I can play games on cassette tapes again.
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 17, 2006, 03:44:46 PM
Quote from: "rolins"

I'm still wondering if it's possible to connect a data recorder so I can play games on cassette tapes again.


Well, if they make it possible to use one of those driverless USB mic inputs, then you could use the line out from a regular tape deck. Maybe?
Title: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: Keranu on October 17, 2006, 09:04:53 PM
Thanks a lot for the info Rollins and Sign of Zeta, that thing sounds really nifty. Would it be more worth getting over an original MSX system? I know that might sound stupid, but I've only used MSX emulators and not the real thing and don't know much about how they work. I like to collect the original stuff, but if the One Chip MSX is easier and more consolized, I might just get one instead someday.
Title: Re: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: Dark Fact on November 06, 2006, 08:57:27 AM
Holy crap! Golvellius 2? In English???  :shock:

I'm so tempted to sign up to this right now!  :shock:
Title: Re: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: rolins on November 06, 2006, 11:18:09 AM
The 1 Chip MSX is now available for pre-order at Bazix - http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx_preorder.html.

192.44 Euro ex. VAT
229 Euro inc. VAT

These prices do not include shipping costs either. Very pricey IMO. I don't think I can afford this now.  :(

I hope there will be a second pre-order batch in the near future.
Title: Re: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: Dark Fact on November 06, 2006, 02:36:11 PM
How much is that in Canadian dollars? I'm too lazy to convert currency.  :P
Title: Re: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: TR0N on November 06, 2006, 05:27:09 PM
The 1 Chip MSX is now available for pre-order at Bazix - http://www.bazix.nl/onechipmsx_preorder.html.

192.44 Euro ex. VAT
229 Euro inc. VAT

These prices do not include shipping costs either. Very pricey IMO. I don't think I can afford this now.  :(

I hope there will be a second pre-order batch in the near future.

Me either i sign up for there news letter.

Afther i saw the price i was uhh to much for me at this point.

Not to mention the exchange rate wich can be nasty when your in the u.s  :-&
Title: Re: WOOB.net - MSX games
Post by: Dark Fact on November 10, 2006, 02:17:05 PM
$200 simolians? Ugh! I'll wait till they offer it for a cheaper price! That's way too out of my range! :x