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Title: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: crazydean on December 04, 2017, 03:47:47 AM
All this talk of how much the N64 sucks has got me thinking about this Sega Saturn I have. It hasn't been played much, and it's time to remedy this problem.
So, I'm looking for game suggestions. Specifically, anything but racing, sports, FPS, and turn-based RPGs.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Lost Monkey on December 04, 2017, 03:56:32 AM
Nights.
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Virtua Fighter 2
Fighter's Megamix
(I know you said no racers, but Sega Rally is so arcadey, playable and fun, I have to recommend it.)
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Arkhan on December 04, 2017, 04:32:32 AM
ELEVATOR MOTHER f*ckING ACTION RETURNS MOTHERf*ckERS
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gredler on December 04, 2017, 05:33:48 AM
I really loved Dragon Force as a kid, but Panzer Dragoon Saga was great too. I played a lot of magic knight rayearth, too.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: nopepper on December 04, 2017, 06:11:33 AM
Galactic Attack/Layer Section - awesome vertical shooter with some of the best 2D graphics ever, a rockin soundtrack and thumping sound effects.
Battle Garegga - real technical vertical shooter by Raizing. Very tough and requires a lot of knowledge of its rank system, which might turn some ppl off
Do don Pachi - still the best Cave shooter ever, IMO. If you can't get ahold of the PCB, this is the next best thing (besides emulation). Can be played straightforward for survival or if you get into it, for score.
Radiant Silvergun - some peeps call this one overrated, but I think the hype is warranted. One of my desert island games with almost infinite playability. Also, one of the technical marvels of the 32/64 bit era.
Vampire Saviour - great conversion of Capcom's fighting classic. I have the CPS2 board and this thing is pretty much identical. There are other great 2D fighters, but this is my personal favorite.
Dragon Force - super addictive sprite based real time strategy from Sega. One of my fav US releases.
Saturn Bomberman - best couch multiplayer game ever, IMO. I love all the stats that are accumulated per game and wish this was standard in all Bomberman games, as it's always fun to see who killed who, how many suicides you committed, etc.
+Many many more shoot em ups (Strikers 1945, Soukyugurentai, Darius Gaiden, Batsugun, Hyper Duel, Blast Wind, Guardian Force, ...)
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: KingDrool on December 04, 2017, 06:33:36 AM
Listen to nopepper. Those are some great titles. Guardian Heroes is a good one to add to that list. There are some great fighters on Saturn, too.
Disclaimer: some of those games will cost you a small fortune.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: DragonmasterDan on December 04, 2017, 06:35:20 AM
Dragon Force is my favorite Sega made game ever
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gredler on December 04, 2017, 06:42:19 AM
I really like Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter. It has comc book graphical flash beyond the other games in the series.
The Saturn version also includes that weird geeky character that was not available in CPS2 US and PSX versions.
Yeah, Norimaru is essential.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Medic_wheat on December 04, 2017, 08:36:34 AM
You kinda said no to the bread and butter for the Saturn.
It has great RPG’s. Although the FPS are meh.
What ever I recommend will be very broken record. It happens when you talk about a system where the games to recommend are usually the must have/own
Layer section/galactic attack Darius Almost any 2D fighter Puzzle fighter (import only) granted I think it plays no different than the PS1 port which is NA Panzar dragoon Zewi Guardian hero’s
There are also some Japan only best em ups but I think they have gotten pricy.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: DragonmasterDan on December 04, 2017, 09:36:29 AM
Super Tempo
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gypsy on December 04, 2017, 09:43:43 AM
I almost forgot: Last Gladiators Digital Pinball! Cheap and awesome.
\m/
Most of the essential stuff has been mentioned.
Digital Pinball Necronomicon is also wicked awesome but costs a bit more. I think it's better, but if you are only buying one and are trying to keep the budget right, Last Gladiators still should be less than $10 shipped for the JP version.
Some of my top favourites, and I know I am mostly just reiterating games already listed in this thread.
Magical Drop II/III Puzzle Bobble 2/3 Magic Knight Rayearth (BURN IT, as others have said) Dragon Force (this is also pretty much burn territory these days I think) Dungeons & Dragons Sega Worldwide Soccer 98 (if you like sport games this one is pretty fun and simple, lots of modes iirc) Sega Rally Daytona Saturn Bomberman
There are a lot of great shooters and NoPepper's post is actually a great starting point. I've played just about all of them and certainly DDP, Silvergun and Garegga are in the top 5 on Saturn. Layer Section is excellent too. I'm also really high on Soukyugurentai. Make sure you get the fixed version. Those are all pretty much true Saturn shooters. The Saturn also has a crap ton of compilations of older shooters.
Game that sucks don't play it
Albert Odyssey
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: exodus on December 04, 2017, 10:06:20 AM
I'll mention things I don't think others will.
If your japanese is decent, get these RPGs: Cyber Doll Dragon Master Silk Black/Matrix
if you like multiplayer games, get: Vatlva (car battle action) Coin Puzzle Moujiya (basically Money Idol Exchanger)
If you like action in general get: Bulk Slash Steambot Chronicles Silhouette Mirage - one of my favorite treasure games
fighting: Toshinden URA (a saturn-only sequel to the first saturn Toshinden) Asuka 120% Limited - best fighting game of the era for my money Zero Divide - great music The SNK stuff if you want that!
STG: Shippū Mahō Daisakusen Kingdom-Grandprix - racing and shooting mixed Batsugun - easy, but fun shooter with a lot of character to the backgrounds
Racing: Touge 2: mountain passes are fun, but this also comes with a huge repository of people who sent in their own photos of themselves with their cars. Great 90s fashion and cars!! Gran Chaser - good music in the japanese version Sonic R - I don't care what anyone says, I love it (though do play it with the 3D controller)
uhhh there's plenty more but I could go on forever
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: crazydean on December 04, 2017, 10:17:31 AM
Well, it looks like I'm good on the Saturn for quite a while, haha. Thanks all for the suggestions. Feel free to continue posting your favorite games or what have you, but I plan to start at the top and work my way down.
As for RPGs, I like them, but I don't know how anyone could play more than two or three per year. As Chrono Trigger was just finished (finally crossed that off the backlog), it's going to be a few months before I'm ready for the next one.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 04, 2017, 11:01:47 AM
As a Hudson fan I have to mention Yuna remix, Yuna 3, Willy Wombat, and Tengai Makyou: the Apocalypse IV and well as Bomberman Wars.
The only reason I didn’t mention Sakura Wars 1 and 2 before is because they are better on Dreamcast but that series is also largely produced by Red, who are a huge part of Hudson over the years.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Black Tiger on December 04, 2017, 11:18:01 AM
Virtua Cops and House of the Dead with two black Stunners/Virtua Guns. 8)
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Bloufo on December 04, 2017, 01:41:45 PM
Mass Destruction is a fun game. Great music.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Medic_wheat on December 04, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
Wait now I am confused.
In your original post it sounded like you wanted a list of games except for racing, FPS, and RPG.
But nearly everyone posted recommendations exactly for that.
So did you or did you not want recommendations or those types of games?
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: nopepper on December 04, 2017, 05:10:14 PM
In your original post it sounded like you wanted a list of games except for racing, FPS, and RPG.
But nearly everyone posted recommendations exactly for that.
So did you or did you not want recommendations or those types of games?
Just post your favorite Saturn games, for chrissakes.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: seieienbu on December 04, 2017, 05:23:05 PM
On assumption you can play burned games I'd highly recommend Policenauts with the English translation patch.
Also the Shining Force 3 trilogy is fully in English now, right? The first game was released stateside at the end of the Saturn's life but the second and third chapters weren't released over here. ...I need to look into playing the 2nd and 3rd in English now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: TR0N on December 04, 2017, 06:45:59 PM
Dark Savior Cyberbots Panzer Dragoon Zwei Virtual Fighter 2 Street Fighter Zero 3 Darius Gaiden Radiant Silvergun X-men vs Street Fighter,still the best port out there. Vampire Savior Virtual Cop 2
Take note any of the u.s panzer dragoons have gotten expensive unless you buy the japanese version,cheaper by the way.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: crazydean on December 04, 2017, 10:31:41 PM
In your original post it sounded like you wanted a list of games except for racing, FPS, and RPG.
But nearly everyone posted recommendations exactly for that.
So did you or did you not want recommendations or those types of games?
Just post your favorite Saturn games, for chrissakes.
Lol. Yeah, I don't care for fighting games either, but there's enough here to get me started. As for the RPGs, I love action RPGs, just not turn-based.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gypsy on December 04, 2017, 11:39:55 PM
Virtua Cops and House of the Dead with two black Stunners/Virtua Guns. 8)
\m/ \m/
Definitely worth getting. The Virtua Cop games you can pretty much get for next to nothing too.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: crazydean on December 05, 2017, 01:11:11 AM
Some of these games I've already tried like Magical Knight Rayearth. I played for what seemed like forever and never really "played" anything. It was all text and moe. Is there an actual game in there?
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gypsy on December 05, 2017, 01:19:57 AM
Some of these games I've already tried like Magical Knight Rayearth. I played for what seemed like forever and never really "played" anything. It was all text and moe. Is there an actual game in there?
Yes. It does take a bit to get going though.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: crazydean on December 05, 2017, 02:07:32 AM
Some of these games I've already tried like Magical Knight Rayearth. I played for what seemed like forever and never really "played" anything. It was all text and moe. Is there an actual game in there?
Yes. It does take a bit to get going though.
I've seen Albert Odyssey recommended in other places. I assume it's not here because I said no RPGs. Why don't you like it?
Also, money is no object. I am very rich in CD-Rs.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gypsy on December 05, 2017, 02:13:05 AM
I figured some people would recommend it which is why I specifically said something against it. It's just...not good. Generic and boring. Also while feeling grindy it's actually fairly short. There just isn't much to it and it is very forgettable.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: seieienbu on December 07, 2017, 03:33:57 PM
I've seen Albert Odyssey recommended in other places. I assume it's not here because I said no RPGs. Why don't you like it?
I've never played it but always wanted to. What I can say with certainty is that I like the soundtrack a lot.
I read a review when the game came out saying it was kinda meh so I passed on it at the time. Some years later I saw a copy at a Play'n Trade for a stupid amount of money, like $120 or something. I offered $75 which was what it was going for online at the time. I got turned down, of course, as stores don't like haggling or whatever. Some time passed and I went to that store again a couple of years later and it was still there. I made the same offer. Over the next few years I made that offer a couple more times. Then, about 2 years ago, the store closed. I don't think they ever sold the game.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: DragonmasterDan on December 07, 2017, 10:10:09 PM
Albert Odyssey has a high encounter rate and kind of a boring story. It's very basic, this isn't a bad thing but the game isn't particularly exceptional either. It's not bad, but it plays very much like a mid-tier SNES RPG with a funny localization.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: nopepper on December 08, 2017, 03:22:04 AM
Some of these games I've already tried like Magical Knight Rayearth. I played for what seemed like forever and never really "played" anything. It was all text and moe. Is there an actual game in there?
I feel the same way about that game; more style than substance. Great looking game, but the story, character and gameplay were so uninteresting, I stopped playing midway through and have not touched it in 15+ years. Maybe if I was 12 when I started playing it, I might've liked it more...
I personally don't feel like there are any action RPGs in the Saturn that are worth the time. MKR, Dark Savior and Legend Of Oasis are all subpar and don't hold a candle to stuff like Landstalker, Light Crusader and Alundra (not to mention the 2D Zeldas).
The Saturn is all about shooters, Bomberman, Dragon Force and Panzer Dragoon.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 08, 2017, 04:50:06 AM
Albert Odyssey has a high encounter rate and kind of a boring story. It's very basic, this isn't a bad thing but the game isn't particularly exceptional either. It's not bad, but it plays very much like a mid-tier SNES RPG with a funny localization.
If the 16-bit systems hadn't been abandoned I don't think an RPG as mediocre as this would have even been made. The budget hit moving to 32-bit set RPGs back 3-5 years.
Since it exists in English that makes it appealing no matter how lame it is but if the language barrier isn't a problem for you by all means skip this game completely. There are much better RPGs on Saturn.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gredler on December 08, 2017, 06:48:37 AM
Albert Odyssey has a high encounter rate and kind of a boring story. It's very basic, this isn't a bad thing but the game isn't particularly exceptional either. It's not bad, but it plays very much like a mid-tier SNES RPG with a funny localization.
As a kid I thought the graphics were very appealing, the music rocked, and the gameplay was approachable for me as a 13 year old.
I haven't ever gone back to it, but I remember loving it.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Arkhan on December 08, 2017, 08:53:55 AM
Shining the Holy Ark is the tits.
but, MKR is still top titties.
Having recently replayed it, it's still so fun.
That era was neat when you get all pumped up because there's voice overs coming out during talky-time.
A similar-ish experience is Linkle Liver Story.
Another fun game, and that one doesn't require English really either.
It's weird to play RPGs that you can't understand the story of though. I don't really get that.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gredler on December 08, 2017, 09:35:25 AM
I recently tried a playthrough of the holy ark, but got stalled about 2/3s through, and puttered into something out. What a fun dungeon crawler, I really should go back and wrap it up.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gypsy on December 08, 2017, 09:46:36 AM
That era was neat when you get all pumped up because there's voice overs coming out during talky-time.
A similar-ish experience is Linkle Liver Story.
Another fun game, and that one doesn't require English really either.
It's weird to play RPGs that you can't understand the story of though. I don't really get that.
Yeah I have replayed MKR within the last couple years and I thought it was still fun as well. Now, should it be $342384 or w/e f*ck no but it would be really solid for like $30 lol.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: exodus on December 12, 2017, 05:35:09 AM
As a Hudson fan I have to mention Yuna remix, Yuna 3, Willy Wombat, and Tengai Makyou: the Apocalypse IV and well as Bomberman Wars.
I keep wanting to like yuna 3, but the shrill voices are really wearing me down! and willy wombat's VO is a super embarrassment. but it's got some odd charm!
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: ginoscope on December 12, 2017, 09:41:11 AM
I have always been fond of Deep Fear on the Saturn since I first tried it out when I got into Saturn around 2002. It's a survivor horror resident evil clone that was actually made by Sega. It has horrid voice acting but I always loved that it took place underwater. Reminded me of The Abyss movie.
This only came out in Japan and Europe but there is a US prototype that was found some years ago. I really liked how using your gun would deplete the oxygen in certain parts of the rig. Highly recommended if you are a survivor horror fan.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 12, 2017, 11:18:54 AM
As a Hudson fan I have to mention Yuna remix, Yuna 3, Willy Wombat, and Tengai Makyou: the Apocalypse IV and well as Bomberman Wars.
I keep wanting to like yuna 3, but the shrill voices are really wearing me down! and willy wombat's VO is a super embarrassment. but it's got some odd charm!
Yeah, neither of these games is all that amazing. They made some great art for them though.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Izod1337 on December 22, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
If you're looking for some Saturn games, I recommend trying out Wachenroder. Personally my favorite linear rpg that has a unique setting and characters. The only thing is that it can get repetitive. There is a full translation guide for it on Gamefaqs. Also of anyone is interested I did a review of it: http://segasaturngroup.proboards.com/thread/8984/wachenr-der-jp-review-spoilers
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: exodus on December 22, 2017, 06:27:12 AM
Some of these games I've already tried like Magical Knight Rayearth. I played for what seemed like forever and never really "played" anything. It was all text and moe. Is there an actual game in there?
Just noticed this - it's an action rpg through and through, just a slow paced one. that's exactly what I like! I also wouldn't really say it's moe, it's just 90s clamp!
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 22, 2017, 07:40:41 AM
It’s possible you’re two blind men explaining the same elephant. I can see the game both ways.
IIRC it was a very early Saturn game, launch or near that, and most things like that are a lot worse. At least they leaned heavily on art that lasts instead of some polygonal clag that look liked dated shit the next year (ie: Toshinden)
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Gypsy on December 22, 2017, 08:48:18 AM
MKR A early launch game? I waited forever for WD to bring it here, I had no idea it was an early release but that would explain some of it
Yeah it was a 1995 release in Japan.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: grolt on January 02, 2018, 04:41:23 PM
I adore the Saturn, I own almost a full US library (damn you, Daytona NetLink) and have played through a lot of the games. Some great recommendations here, I'll add a few more that I feel are underrated or interesting.
DARK SAVIOR Made by the Landstalker/Shining guys, this is an awesome action RPG with the novelty of battles going into a STREET FIGHTER-esque 3-round style before switching back to isometric for the core gameplay. The coolest thing about the game is that depending on how you play the first 15 minute sequence of the game, the course of the rest of the game is altered, so it essentially becomes 6 different RPGs, since each one follows its own branching story with different objectives, foes and locations. I usually never replay an RPG after it is done for the extra stuff, but these alternate stories are so damn charming I had to play through every one (and even discovered a 6th one that's never really talked about anywhere).
ASTAL Beautiful game with large, layered sprite work and some heavenly music arrangements. The lead has a lot more moves in his arsenal than most platformer heroes, and the two player system adds a nice unique twist. Huge inventive bosses and a cutely rendered story, it's a tough game not to love. It was the first Saturn game I ever played, and at the time I was mad that I got it because I wanted a 3D game, but the irony is that of all the Saturn games this is one of them that looks the best today.
BUG! The game I actually really wanted when SEGA sent me ASTAL as part of a 3-game Christmas promo was this game, with the cockier 'tude mascot in some 3D levels. It doesn't really maintain a good reputation today, but I've always really had an affinity for it. The dimensionality of the game with all the paths that go into every X, Y and Z axis is really cool and something no other platformers have ever really done before or since. There's some challenge too as the game progresses, and there is enough variety in enemies, level design and bonus worlds to make it interesting. For historians, this also marks Sonic's 32-bit debut (in the US, I guess, if you count his cameo as a rear-view mirror ornament in the Japan-only port of GALE RACER) since he's a guy you race in one of the bonus levels. Bug's one-liners are a bit too 90's today, but the other vocal mascots like Gex or Bubsy have that problem too. Not a great game, but a pretty interesting and unique one that I think deserves mention in the pantheon of Sega platformers.
POWERSLAVE/DUKE NUKEM 3D/QUAKE I know you said no FPS, but I need to give a shout out to the boyz at Lobotomy Software who made one of the most kickass console first-person shooter engines of all time. The control and sense of speed in those games is perfect, and the light sourcing and 3D worlds are pulling more out of the Saturn than anyone ever would have expected. SEGA liked their work so much on POWERSLAVE that they got 'em to port DUKE and QUAKE with that engine, and they're really the best console versions of those games on any system (at the time) because of it. Really worth checking out on a technical level just to see what the Saturn could do when it was programmed right.
LAST BRONX Another technical marvel, this is one of only a handful of high resolution games put out on the Saturn, and as a port of much more powerful Model 2 hardware, it's pretty amazing how close this game comes. VIRTUA FIGHTER 2 is another hires port that's always cited, but BRONX was brought home in a much more loving way with a bunch of extra modes and a lot of good unlockable content like unique anime endings for each character. As one of the first weapon-based fighters ever, it's amazing how SEGA nailed the gameplay right from the get-go, and the smooth frame rate and sharp visuals make it a delight to play. The Japanese version is the one to get with a second disc full of photo extras, but whatever version you get it's fighting game bliss.
MR. BONES Weird-ass platformer that's a rare US-made exclusive. The game oozes personality, and there is so much variety to the gameplay styles - one level you're running left and right trying to collect your body parts, then the next level you're bouncing on a giant skull in a BREAKOUT kind of manor, and then in another you're doing an epic GUITAR HERO-like guitar solo trying to win over a crowd of possessed undead. Two discs of unbridled creativity and one of the coolest relics of the era, complete with some cool jazz FMVs.
Some other notable games I think are worthwhile too: BURNING RANGERS: Sonic Team pushing the Saturn to the limit, a lot of great ideas, but kind of a dark empty game at times. CONTRA: LEGACY OF WAR: They ported the series to 3D well, and this version has a 3D Glasses option which is a fun gimmick. CONGO: THE LOST CITY OF ZINJ: Janky exclusive for the system, it's a fun DOOM-clone except with wild apes and spiders and shit. FIGHTING VIPERS: Never gets any love next to VIRTUA FIGHTER but the caged matches and armor breaking system are really fun. THE LEGEND OF OASIS: Top-down action RPG with a great 2D art style and solid gameplay, a prequel to the Genny's BEYOND OASIS. DIE HARD ARCADE: One of the only 3D beat-em-ups we got in the US, but SEGA did the genre proud and ushered in quicktime events in the process. The gameplay and items you can beat people up with (apples!) is just over the top insane! LOADED: Fun top-down action shooter for when you want to turn your brain off and just obliterate thousands of enemies to a badass techno soundtrack. Gets repetitive but serves its purpose before that.
Play some games and get back to us, would love to hear your thoughts!
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on January 03, 2018, 01:46:33 AM
ooh, Grolt mentioned nearly every single Saturn game on my favorites list, not already mentioned here. But I noticed one more seriously awesome game that is rarely talked about in the Sega inner circles.
Three Dirty Dwarves, and hell The Lost Vikings 2 for that matter. TDD is sort of like Lost Vikings, but in a beat 'em up manner. offers tons of strategy and quick reflexive gameplay. One of the best!
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: grolt on January 03, 2018, 04:20:26 AM
ooh, Grolt mentioned nearly every single Saturn game on my favorites list, not already mentioned here. But I noticed one more seriously awesome game that is rarely talked about in the Sega inner circles.
Three Dirty Dwarves, and hell The Lost Vikings 2 for that matter. TDD is sort of like Lost Vikings, but in a beat 'em up manner. offers tons of strategy and quick reflexive gameplay. One of the best!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AbE7Sas8ZU
Yep, good call! TDD has a fun quirky sense of humor, and probably one of the only console games ever where you can play three player co-op if you want. NORSE BY NORSEWEST is like the cheekiest title ever, surprised they really did that for a large release game - it completely hides the fact that it's a sequel to LOST VIKINGS...not the best business sense, but then again that's probably why it's one of the rarer games on the system.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Digi.k on January 03, 2018, 04:43:11 AM
FIGHTING VIPERS: Never gets any love next to VIRTUA FIGHTER but the caged matches and armor breaking system are really fun.
For Fighting Vipers I would always recommend the japanese release over all overs just for Pepsi Man (https://i.imgur.com/sbgF2t8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GIpMHhS.jpg)
EDIT
Also I haven't gone through this whole thread but also check out Gundam Side Story. It's quite short and comes in 3 parts. They should be pretty cheap to buy too.
I love the CD cases which are cardboarded (https://i.imgur.com/oNE0LYv.jpg?1)
Manuals are glued onto the cardboard CD cases (https://i.imgur.com/WzpQFg5.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/VPWCOms.gif)
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: seieienbu on January 03, 2018, 07:23:18 AM
I picked up Princess Crown for my girlfriend for Christmas. My only experience with it before now has been failing to get it to work on an emulator circa 2005 or so. I had seen screenshots before and wanted to give it a try. Fast forward a decade and some change and with the game in my hands I can say that screenshots do not do the game justice; you really have to see it in motion to truly appreciate the gorgeous visuals.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I generally dislike Vanillaware games. They always look absolutely amazing but they generally aren't actually fun to play. Dragon's Crown was the exception to this as I adored that game from start to finish. Princess Crown though? The combat is somewhat turn based with a bit of real time in there as well. It feels a bit clunky to me but isn't as annoying (so far) as Muramasa was on the Wii.
With that said, I'm enjoying it so far. I'm hoping I can get through it without too much of a language barrier. If you're a fan of 2D Spritework and have a Saturn I'd recommend at least checking it out.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: xelement5x on January 03, 2018, 09:12:43 AM
Princess Crown is one I guess has that has been totally translated into English as well, they "just" need someone to finish inserting the text back into the game.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: seieienbu on January 03, 2018, 11:50:37 AM
Princess Crown is one I guess has that has been totally translated into English as well, they "just" need someone to finish inserting the text back into the game.
Ugh. As I understand it, that's the hard part of things...
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 03, 2018, 01:09:54 PM
I second Three Dirty Dwarves. It’s so original and hardly ever talked about. If it were a PC-FX game that system would triple in value but the SS has a lot of good stuff so it gets lost.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Winniez on January 05, 2018, 08:16:13 AM
With Saturn I feel most of the games I would really like to play are the fairly expensive ones. For good and affordable games I would look at the entire SEGA first party library. Most of those games have better versions or superior sequels elsewhere though. Layer Section is also a high quality affordable shooter.
Title: Re: Best of the Sega Saturn
Post by: Winniez on January 05, 2018, 08:17:55 AM
And with N64 I feel it gets too much credit for its limited library but by no mean is it a bad system, quite the opposite.