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NEC PC-Engine/SuperGrafx => PC Engine/SuperGrafx Discussion => Topic started by: cireza on January 29, 2018, 07:20:07 AM
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I finally decided myself and bought a PC-Engine. Wooooo :dance:
A French seller was selling a RGB + recapped Duo, and I decided to get it. Price seemed decent, however there is no controller. I need to find one...
I will surely be getting recommendations from you for games in the future, probably in this thread if it suits you all. I understand that you are all veterans from this console, but still hope that you can share the passion ! Being a veteran gamer of Sega and Nintendo consoles (that I know very well), it becomes sometimes difficult after all these years to still feel and share the passion... But I am rambling, sorry about that :lol:
I am particularly interested in CD-Games that are easily playable (which means in English or no need to read Japanese, I will take a look at the pinned topic) and of course Hucard games. To make this clear I will probably be getting an everdrive, which does not exclude getting a few originals of course.
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Prince of Persia
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Yeah, Prince of Persia. That’s about it.
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Try games before you buy.
Here are English friendly Japanese titles:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=14497.0
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Will take a look at Prince of Persia...
I will try games, thanks for the advice.
Any advice concerning controllers ? Do you know if there are adapters out there, to use a MegaDrive controller on PC-Engine for example ?
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The only adapters I know of are for using PS1 controllers on PCE.
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I finally decided myself and bought a PC-Engine. Wooooo :dance:
A French seller was selling a RGB + recapped Duo, and I decided to get it. Price seemed decent, however there is no controller. I need to find one...
I will surely be getting recommendations from you for games in the future, probably in this thread if it suits you all. I understand that you are all veterans from this console, but still hope that you can share the passion ! Being a veteran gamer of Sega and Nintendo consoles (that I know very well), it becomes sometimes difficult after all these years to still feel and share the passion... But I am rambling, sorry about that :lol:
I am particularly interested in CD-Games that are easily playable (which means in English or no need to read Japanese, I will take a look at the pinned topic) and of course Hucard games. To make this clear I will probably be getting an everdrive, which does not exclude getting a few originals of course.
Comrade, if you like shootemups, grab any cheap CD shootemup and have fun.
Ask us if you want opinions on any game.
Otherwise...
Prince of Persia
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Congrats OP!
Despite its obscurity, the pce has pretty of good entry-level games for retro gamers. There's plenty of franchises or popular developers who made great games for the system.
If you're a Hudson, Taito or Namco fan then you struck gold. There are even some really cool sega ports.
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Congrats. PCE passion never dulls unlike that
Nintendo fanboy stuff.
Look at the list Black Tiger linked, there are a ton of fun games on there to try. (PoP is a good game but there are sooooo many more awesome PCE games to try)
Here are some great CD games from that list that aren't crazy expensive yet I still suggest tyring before buying though :
Gotzendiener
Puyo Puyo CD
Splash Lake
RANMA 1/2 - DATŌ, GANSO MUSABETSU KAKUTŌ-RYŪ!
Road Spirits
Gate of Thunder
Baby Jo
Psychic Storm
Star Parodier
Super Raiden
Conan Future Boy
Crest of Wolf (Riot Zone)
Pomping World (Buster Bros).
R-TYPE Complete CD
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The only adapters I know of are for using PS1 controllers on PCE.
I prefer buying a controller than playing with a PS1 controller :lol:
Congrats. PCE passion never dulls unlike that Nintendo fanboy stuff.
I don't really know about Nintendo passion, never was a big fan, however my Sega passion is still going strong after all these years 8)
Thanks for the games list, I will check it out tomorrow.
Is Prince of Persia some kind of rolling gag around here ? :lol:
I watched some gameplay and it looked pretty good. Also, great music.
Why are there some switches above the I and II buttons on the controllers ? What a strange design. I believe most games only use two buttons anyway ?
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If Prince of Persia is a rolling gag it's a new one. It's not horrible but it's not great either.
Baby Jo, however, is about as bad as it gets. The rest of swimmy's picks are pretty good, but that one...... just no. NOOOOOO!
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If Prince of Persia is a rolling gag it's a new one. It's not horrible but it's not great either.
Baby Jo, however, is about as bad as it gets. The rest of swimmy's picks are pretty good, but that one...... just no. NOOOOOO!
I like Jo
maybe I'm wierd
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The only adapters I know of are for using PS1 controllers on PCE.
I prefer buying a controller than playing with a PS1 controller :lol:
Congrats. PCE passion never dulls unlike that Nintendo fanboy stuff.
I don't really know about Nintendo passion, never was a big fan, however my Sega passion is still going strong after all these years 8)
Thanks for the games list, I will check it out tomorrow.
Is Prince of Persia some kind of rolling gag around here ? :lol:
I watched some gameplay and it looked pretty good. Also, great music.
Why are there some switches above the I and II buttons on the controllers ? What a strange design. I believe most games only use two buttons anyway ?
1) We're making fun of Prince of Persia as a single suggestion because it's a bit odd to list by itself. it's okay but nothing special. there are several great CD games like the Ys series that are amazing. also, Zeta tends to be a bit ornery every now and then, but he's a good guy.
2) Those switches are for turbo controls for each button. Especially useful for the many shoot em ups. Several games do offer a third button command most often mapped to select. there are 3 button controllers you can get. A standard PCE pad will work just fine for most of the non-fighting games.
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Lords of Thunder is my favorite shooter ever and favorite CD game on PCE.
Dynastic Hero
Cotton
Rondo of Blood
Star Parodier
Cosmic Fantasy 2
Ys Book 1 and 2
Ys 4 English patch
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If Prince of Persia is a rolling gag it's a new one. It's not horrible but it's not great either.
Baby Jo, however, is about as bad as it gets. The rest of swimmy's picks are pretty good, but that one...... just no. NOOOOOO!
Road Spirits plays itself, but he also mentioned some INTENSE SHINING GEMS. That Ranma game is really fun and like $10 or something.
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Will take a look at Prince of Persia...
I will try games, thanks for the advice.
Any advice concerning controllers ? Do you know if there are adapters out there, to use a MegaDrive controller on PC-Engine for example ?
Segasonicfan has designed a Mega Drive to PC Engine adapter for his Uni-Gen converter. I don't know if he is offering any for sale yet, but may be interested in putting together another prototype version.
https://segasonicfan.wixsite.com/retro/store
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Download and Download 2 are great games to look into, a bit pricey but what else is f@cking new.
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Taking note of all the suggestions.
I had planned to get Lords of Thunder. I also want Castlevania, but the prices are high, despite the game not seeming rare as there are tenths of listings on ebay for example...
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If Prince of Persia is a rolling gag it's a new one. It's not horrible but it's not great either.
Baby Jo, however, is about as bad as it gets. The rest of swimmy's picks are pretty good, but that one...... just no. NOOOOOO!
Road Spirits plays itself, but he also mentioned some INTENSE SHINING GEMS. That Ranma game is really fun and like $10 or something.
Yeah but you can pick up RS for super cheap. I was trying to pick a variety of games that aren't too expensive to start with. Most of those games aren't going to blow anyone out of the water, but you could have fun with em all, even if a few are teh easy/not a whole lotta replay. You could pick up most of that list for decent prices and enjoy a variety of games off the bat kinda deal. I'm sure the OP will check them out and see if they are games they could possible enjoy. At least that was my thinking, I'm not suggesting everyone run out and get RS or Jo. (Energy and Wonder Momo would be better choices hahaha <- do actually enjoy those games too though)
Note: For games like Ys or Dac X OR download/tiger/heli (WHICH ARE FRIGGIN AWESOME AS HELL) you can always emulate/CDR or try em fist before you buy them. Which I would suggest, nothing worse than spending 100-500 USD on a game to find out you don't like it very much.
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If Prince of Persia is a rolling gag it's a new one. It's not horrible but it's not great either.
Baby Jo, however, is about as bad as it gets. The rest of swimmy's picks are pretty good, but that one...... just no. NOOOOOO!
Road Spirits plays itself, but he also mentioned some INTENSE SHINING GEMS. That Ranma game is really fun and like $10 or something.
Yeah but you can pick up RS for super cheap. I was trying to pick a variety of games that aren't too expensive to start with. Most of those games aren't going to blow anyone out of the water, but you could have fun with em all, even if a few are teh easy/not a whole lotta replay. You could pick up most of that list for decent prices and enjoy a variety of games off the bat kinda deal. I'm sure the OP will check them out and see if they are games they could possible enjoy. At least that was my thinking, I'm not suggesting everyone run out and get RS or Jo. (Energy and Wonder Momo would be better choices hahaha <- do actually enjoy those games too though)
Note: For games like Ys or Dac X OR download/tiger/heli (WHICH ARE FRIGGIN AWESOME AS HELL) you can always emulate/CDR or try em fist before you buy them. Which I would suggest, nothing worse than spending 100-500 USD on a game to find out you don't like it very much.
Road Spirits is alright, I just had to point that out. :p
Star Parodier is awesome, so I'm glad it keeps getting mentioned. Another easy game, but it's really cool visually and you have options for your "ship" which adds replay-ability. The PC Engine is the most OP, iirc.
Taking note of all the suggestions.
I had planned to get Lords of Thunder. I also want Castlevania, but the prices are high, despite the game not seeming rare as there are tenths of listings on ebay for example...
There is no rhyme or reason to game prices.
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I started looking at the games you recommended, and also at all games available on CD and Super CD. Of course I have not been through the entire list yet...
Dynastic Hero
Cotton
Rondo of Blood
Ys I & II
Ys III
Ys IV
Xak III
Gotzendiener (really liked what I saw on this one)
Gate of Thunder
Winds of Thunder
Valis Phantasm Soldier
Crest of Wolf
Spriggan
Spriggan Mark 2
I am also building a list of games I need to check some more.
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I started looking at the games you recommended, and also at all games available on CD and Super CD. Of course I have not been through the entire list yet...
Gotzendiener (really liked what I saw on this one)
I am also building a list of games I need to check some more.
Gotzendiener is really cool, but i should mention that it A) is somewhat short B) feels unfinished as several things in the game don't have a know use but it also has a cool metroid lonely feeling also C) I still enjoy it a ton, and find it a really neat bit of gaming.
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+1 on ze Gotz being clunky, unfinished, and buggy but I still love it. It's cheap and there's nothing else like it on PCE, so it's at least worth a look.
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Don't forget Tenchi Wo Kurau, River City Ransom and Rainbow Islands!
There's also an unofficial release of a caravan shooter by Konami, called Force Gear
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I don't know about the CD library but considering hucards.
Most of the really good games are atleast moderately expensive and I'm sure you are already familiar with most of them. The best Hucard game in my opinnion is Soldier Blade.
Here are some cheap hucards that may fly under the radar but are still enjoyable. Or more like the cheapest games worth playing without knowing japanese. I haven't checked the prices in a while though. And as someone said before, always worth testing the games via emulation before buying.
Be Ball
Bikkuriman World
Blodia
Bomberman
Columns
Cyber Core
Doaremon games
Dragon Spirit
Dungeon Explorers
Galaga '88 (this has the best price to quality ratio out of all the hucards in my opinnion)
Kato Chan & Ken Chan
Klax
Kung Fu (this one is debatable but I like it)
Majin Eiyuuden Wataru (aka Keith Courage, worth the price of admission)
Momotarou Katsugeki
Ordyne
Side Arms
Victory Run
Volfied
Yokai Dochuki
+various sport games (I especially like Final Match Tennis and Power Eleven)
All 4 Konami Hucards (Gradius, Salamander, Parodius and Twinbee) are solid aswell and I think they still are relatively affordable.
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I don't know about the CD library but considering hucards.
Most of the really good games are atleast moderately expensive and I'm sure you are already familiar with most of them. The best Hucard game in my opinnion is Soldier Blade.
Here are some cheap hucards that may fly under the radar but are still enjoyable. Or more like the cheapest games worth playing without knowing japanese. I haven't checked the prices in a while though. And as someone said before, always worth testing the games via emulation before buying.
Be Ball
Bikkuriman World
Blodia
Bomberman
Columns
Cyber Core
Doaremon games
Dragon Spirit
Dungeon Explorers
Galaga '88 (this has the best price to quality ratio out of all the hucards in my opinnion)
Kato Chan & Ken Chan
Klax
Kung Fu (this one is debatable but I like it)
Majin Eiyuuden Wataru (aka Keith Courage, worth the price of admission)
Momotarou Katsugeki
Ordyne
Side Arms
Victory Run
Volfied
Yokai Dochuki
+various sport games (I especially like Final Match Tennis and Power Eleven)
All 4 Konami Hucards (Gradius, Salamander, Parodius and Twinbee) are solid aswell and I think they still are relatively affordable.
Oh man, you should check out the cd library at some point. It's really nice.
I think you covered most of the solid cheaper hucards here, as well as a few I didn't care for such as Blodia, Kung Fu and Volfied. I'd throw Final Lap Twin in there, that game is pretty fun. The Neutopias are reasonable if you get the PCE hu and not the US/Turbob hu. Ordyne I'd be on the fence about. I thought it was below average to okay. An interesting purchase when it was like $8 loose/$15 complete, but I think it's about doubled since then.
You are right about most of the better games being pretty pricey. It's not a super friendly system to get into in terms of price (you can always everdrive of course). I started picking up Japanese PS1 games recently by comparison (*waves at Arkhan*) and I've already got some REALLY cool games for damn fine prices not on eBay. Part of it of course is just the PS1 has soooo many games that just by volume there are lots of cool games well out of the youtube/instagram/facebook collectard eye.
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I really like the CD-library, PC Engine CD has to be one of the best console addons of all time in terms of quality unique titles. In general I'm not fan of the arranged music though, out of all the older consoles PC-Engine has my favourit soundchip.
I just meant I don't know CDs collecting wise. I only collect Hucards and don't have any means to play the CD-games. So its emulation for me unfortunally.
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I really like the CD-library, PC Engine CD has to be one of the best console addons of all time in terms of quality unique titles. In general I'm not fan of the arranged music though, out of all the older consoles PC-Engine has my favourit soundchip.
I just meant I don't know CDs collecting wise. I only collect Hucards and don't have any means to play the CD-games. So its emulation for me unfortunally.
Ah okay, I misunderstood. Emulation is pretty good, I was playing Neutopia in English that way recently since I don't have an ED.
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I am still looking at the games. For Hucard games, I will be getting an Everdrive. I am here for the fun.
Concerning CD games, the ones that seem interesting and are probably among the best on the system do look expensive. I am not too sure about what I am going to do about it, maybe I will buy a game once in a while, but I am definitely not going to buy 10 games at 100$ like this.
Anyway, I have seen two JRPGs that look really awesome : Seiya Monogatari and Xanadu II. Did not check the prices yet.
Also discovered a pretty good website called PC Engine Bible I think. Very useful place.
The very first CD games I would like to buy are Ys I & II in English and Spprigan. Both are already very expensive. I already picked Gotzendeiner, it was cheap and I will use it to test my console once I receive it :o
I have also seen a number of "PCE WORKS" games. I don't understand why they are so expensive being repros. Retro video game market and prices are really becoming insane.
Glad I built my Sega Saturn collection when I was younger...
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Just burn the CD games. Problem solved.
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Glad I built my Sega Saturn collection when I was younger...
Have any Sega Saturn games you want to trade? I have some of the heavy hitter PC Engine CD games I would be willing to part with. PM me if interested.
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Anyway, I have seen two JRPGs that look really awesome : Seiya Monogatari and Xanadu II. Did not check the prices yet.
Neither is terribly expensive, both are fantastic games, and both have translation projects in the works. The first Xanadu is also awesome and is being translated.
Also discovered a pretty good website called PC Engine Bible I think. Very useful place.
That's a great site. My other go to sites for PCE reviews, screenies, etc. are Brothers Duomazov and Video Game Den.
The very first CD games I would like to buy are Ys I & II in English and Spprigan. Both are already very expensive. I already picked Gotzendeiner, it was cheap and I will use it to test my console once I receive it :o
Princess Kickass! I hope ya give it a chance, look past the flaws, and end up liking it.
I have also seen a number of "PCE WORKS" games. I don't understand why they are so expensive being repros. Retro video game market and prices are really becoming insane.
Yarr, it's nuts. It's stupid how much some peeps try to flip his boots for (and some sell!) when many of 'em can still be bought from Tobias for far less.
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Have any Sega Saturn games you want to trade? I have some of the heavy hitter PC Engine CD games I would be willing to part with. PM me if interested.
Would you be interested in 32X PAL games ? Because Saturn I am not really looking into getting rid of any game (love them all ! :) )
I also have one pretty expensive Neo Geo CD game I am willing to exchange if you wish. Maybe some Dreamcast games too.
of 'em can still be bought from Tobias for far less.
Is Tobias someone from the forum ?
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Is Tobias someone from the forum ?
Tobias is the lying *&^#^ #&@%^ who is/runs/owns/ PCEworks.
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Is Tobias someone from the forum ?
Tobias is the lying *&^#^ #&@%^ who is/runs/owns/ PCEworks.
Understood. I did not get the meaning of the sentence correctly at first.
The repros seem to be very well done. Too bad he is doing this illegally and stealing people's work.
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Man I was gonna post some stuff but Necro covered it all. I will second that the PCE bible is great and I am stoked for those RPG fan translations.
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I am stoked for those RPG fan translations.
Definitely the best thing around for retro gamers, with quality rom hacks and everdrive/sd based cartridges. Bless the community.
I played Shining Force III entirely translated on my Saturn on my CRT TV. Awesomeness. Hoping that Princess Crown's translation gets resumed !
I even made a humble romhack of Shining Force II "Gong Edition" (can be found on romhacking).
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Also discovered a pretty good website called PC Engine Bible I think. Very useful place.
Absolutely. :)
SuperPlay has a thread that lists hundreds(?) of links (and brief descriptions) for many wonderful TG-16/PCE resources.
Just randomly clicking on any link in that thread will make you happy.
:)
Also, if you are interested in magazines, I have a stalled project here:
http://archives.tg-16.com/magazine_database.htm
Where you can find some neat stuff...
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I am stoked for those RPG fan translations.
Definitely the best thing around for retro gamers, with quality rom hacks and everdrive/sd based cartridges. Bless the community.
I played Shining Force III entirely translated on my Saturn on my CRT TV. Awesomeness. Hoping that Princess Crown's translation gets resumed !
I even made a humble romhack of Shining Force II "Gong Edition" (can be found on romhacking).
Rock on. I beat the first one last year. I need to get alcohol on my new tower so I can burn off stuff again.
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Just don't "Rock On" too literally, that game sucks :)
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Still waiting for my controller and Gotzen Deiner.
I managed to get a decent offer on 4 games that I am interested in from a seller I bought often from on ebay. So these will be my first batch of games, very excited to be finally able to try the console :o
These 4 games are Spriggan Mark 2, Gate of Thunder, Anearth Fantasy Story and Altered Beast.
There are other games that I definitely need to get someday : Spriggan, Rondo of Blood, Winds of Thunder and Ys I II US. Building this small collection of ~10 CD games might end up being a bit expensive :?
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Just burn the games on CDR
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Still waiting for my controller and Gotzen Deiner.
I managed to get a decent offer on 4 games that I am interested in from a seller I bought often from on ebay. So these will be my first batch of games, very excited to be finally able to try the console :o
These 4 games are Spriggan Mark 2, Gate of Thunder, Anearth Fantasy Story and Altered Beast.
There are other games that I definitely need to get someday : Spriggan, Rondo of Blood, Winds of Thunder and Ys I II US. Building this small collection of ~10 CD games might end up being a bit expensive :?
Yeah several of those games are quite pricey, but most of them are pretty awesome. (you can always cheat and burn/emulate as well.) Those four games should keep you busy with fun till you can swing some more though.
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Yeah several of those games are quite pricey, but most of them are pretty awesome. (you can always cheat and burn/emulate as well.) Those four games should keep you busy with fun till you can swing some more though.
I don't really like using burned games on my consoles, but I will give it a try no worries.
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Yeah several of those games are quite pricey, but most of them are pretty awesome. (you can always cheat and burn/emulate as well.) Those four games should keep you busy with fun till you can swing some more though.
I don't really like using burned games on my consoles, but I will give it a try no worries.
Eh I figured as much, but sometimes it's a nice option when you just can't or won't justify paying $$$4 for a game.
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Yeah several of those games are quite pricey, but most of them are pretty awesome. (you can always cheat and burn/emulate as well.) Those four games should keep you busy with fun till you can swing some more though.
I don't really like using burned games on my consoles, but I will give it a try no worries.
Eh I figured as much, but sometimes it's a nice option when you just can't or won't justify paying $$$4 for a game.
The price on Rondo is really dumb. Great game and I enjoyed it, but paying like $200 or w/e to play the PCE version seems awful.
It's just a bad time to be buying PCE games in general. I already have more than enough PCE games (and can burn w/e else) so lately I've been digging into PS1. So many great titles for $15 or less. I actually hadn't really explored the PS1 library much outside of JRPGs. Though there is of course some splash over with Saturn which I've played tons of.
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Eh I figured as much, but sometimes it's a nice option when you just can't or won't justify paying $$$4 for a game.
I almost never buy games that are more than 100$. And even buying something between 60 and 100$ is the exception.
With some patience, I am pretty sure that I can find some decent prices for most of the games I want, except for Rondo.
Finally, if I buy a game 200$, I can sell it one year later and it will still be worth 200$. The value never really goes down. So at least, retro video-games are not too bad an investment.
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retro video-games are not too bad an investment.
Cringe
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Buy low, sell high. Love making money off retro. Keep em coming.
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Games are better than gold. LOCK IN YOUR RETURNS NOW FOLKS.
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Games are better than gold. LOCK IN YOUR RETURNS NOW FOLKS.
Hell yeah. I recently bought a nasty looking PS2 for $3. Cloroxed the shit out of it, blew out the dust, cleaned the lense, lubed th gears, and now it runs perfectly. Plays any and all CDs, DVDs and PS1/PS2 games I throw at it. I even installed an HDD and I have been playing games right from the HDD. So cool.
I also picked up Shenmue 2 for XBOX CIB for less than $2.
God bless America!
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Hey OP,
You should get this.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-and-ENGLISH-Xak-III-The-Eternal-Recurrence-Deluxe-Ed-PC-Engine-Turbografx/182299420957?hash=item2a71e4691d:g:hnoAAOSwOyJX7~Y1
What a deal.
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Games are better than gold. LOCK IN YOUR RETURNS NOW FOLKS.
Hell yeah. I recently bought a nasty looking PS2 for $3. Cloroxed the shit out of it, blew out the dust, cleaned the lense, lubed th gears, and now it runs perfectly. Plays any and all CDs, DVDs and PS1/PS2 games I throw at it. I even installed an HDD and I have been playing games right from the HDD. So cool.
I also picked up Shenmue 2 for XBOX CIB for less than $2.
God bless America!
I assume you are trying to "troll" the people here are on the other side of things but i would argue:
this is different than "investing". Investing in the since most people refer to requires speculation. and therefor a great risk in losses. Speculation on used goods in general means you have a volatile market that could lead you to owning an item which is worth less than you put into it. Your minimal investing in used goods is not sustainable or long term and in general and does not carry a high level of risk since you are putting out minimal resources. What your trying to do is tell everyone that the Exception is the rule. The exception is never the rule.
Spending thousands or more on used video games ans sitting on them is a stupid if your reasoning is to make money. It's what people tell themselves to justify buying them because they spend so much in money and time on them. When instead they should just say, Hey I have fun with this, I like seeing this game and touching it and it makes me happy. That's why I have all my physical games and systems they make me happy.
I don't care about your "scores". or if you've made money. IF your enjoying games and want to share the passion, that's awesome. If you want me to be impressed by your cheap shenmue, I won't be. I don't keep scores that way. To me the collector with 3 games and plays emulators and tries to learn about development and the games and has a ton of fun going to arcades and meet ups is way above the "look at my score guy" or "here is a video full of mis-information, but look I'm an expert" youtube guys .
With Love ,
Swimby
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Well said. I would say I'm a hybrid as I love finding "scores", as you put it, and I play the shit out of my systems, well that is I used to before my daughter was born two years ago. Now I squeeze in some play time here and there. My family is my number one priority right now. I would say I play my Switch the most, currently, as I commute on the subway about two hours each work day. I was planning on beating Neutopia on my Express during my subway rides but then a good friend of mine bought me a Switch out of nowhere and that was it. I was hooked. I refuse to buy any current gen systems but getting one as a gift is something I will allow.
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Well said. I would say I'm a hybrid as I love finding "scores",
Finding A game I love for reasonable price is awesome. don't get me wrong. Getting Nexzr at a good price made my day. but I'm talking about people who thrive on this alone. I'm glad you have found a way to play games and are happy. I wish you many more great days of gaming.
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I think the OP makes a valid point but used controversial wording. Investment is a triggering word here, and I can see why. It implies market speculation and profiting.
I think the point that the OP tried to make is that its not the same to buy the latest FIFA/NHL/Madden for $60 than buying lets say Soldier Blade for $100, in 3 years that FIFA will be worth $5 but Soldier Blade will be worth atleast the $100.
I don't see anything wrong with thinking about it that way, you never know what life throws at you and if you need to convert your games to cash its comforting to know that the option is there.
It goes without saying that the main point should be buying games to play them.
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Coming back on the forum after a few days... and WTF happened here ? You guys are crazy... :shock:
I was just saying that if I buy a game 100$ and like it, then that's great. If I don't like it, I can sell it and get back my 100$.
That's it... :|
I don't "make money" on selling retro games. I have a job, that's how I make money :dance:
I simply like to have the games I like "real", and not only a rom or a burned CD. Is this a bad thing ?
By the way, English is not my native language. Investment looked like the correct word but maybe I was wrong... I wanted to say that these games don't lose value. Sorry if I offended you. But again, this came as a surprise.
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Coming back on the forum after a few days... and WTF happened here ? You guys are crazy... :shock:
I was just saying that if I buy a game 100$ and like it, then that's great. If I don't like it, I can sell it and get back my 100$.
Not always but generally this is the case.
I simply like to have the games I like "real", and not only a rom or a burned CD. Is this a bad thing ?
You can play games however you want, obviously. I play both ways. I like to buy games generally but sometimes the game is just too damn much or like recently I wanted to play Neutopia in English and had been spending a bit much lately on other non-gaming stuff so I just fired up Ootake.
By the way, English is not my native language. Investment looked like the correct word but maybe I was wrong... I wanted to say that these games don't lose value. Sorry if I offended you. But again, this came as a surprise.
Investment means buying with the intention of making money, to clear that up for you.
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I think most of us understood that you meant you could buy, play for a while, and later resell pricey games and not lose much money. It's obvious you didn't mean that your goal was to flip games for max profits.
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Investment means buying with the intention of making money, to clear that up for you.
Well this is not what I meant... I am a guy that plays games, nothing more.
I can't wait to receive my first games by the way. I will post impressions when I finally get the chance to play them.
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And you can sell them in a few months or years for a profit. 8)
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The troll strikes again!
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Troll or not it is true. I have sold numerous retro games for profit over the years. TurboGrafx specifically has been good to me. It seems the price for Turbo stuff has exploded over the past few years and I have been in the game since the beginning. I had the original TurboGrafx when it came out. I remember going into Toys R Us and buying Super Star Soldier. Remember they had that ticket system back them. You had to bring the ticket to the game counter to get the game after you purchased it. Good times.
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There's no question that you're trolling, and yet you wonder why everyone hates you. :lol:
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Investment means buying with the intention of making money, to clear that up for you.
Well this is not what I meant... I am a guy that plays games, nothing more.
I can't wait to receive my first games by the way. I will post impressions when I finally get the chance to play them.
That's what I figured, just the wrong choice of a word. English can be a pretty confusing language.
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And you can LOVE them in a few months, years, for a LIFETIME. 8)
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The key missing part arrived yesterday : the controller. After more than 3 weeks I finally got a chance to play the console, and I have been very impressed by what I have seen ! Emulators running on your computer never really come close to the real experience on the console, in RGB, with a good CRT TV.
I discovered that I had to boot the CD-ROM Bios 1.00 to make Altered Beast work. Glad that I picked up a Turbo Everdrive v2. By the way this Everdrive looks like it has a better build quality than my other Everdrives.
Altered Beast is a pretty great port seeing that it was released in 1989. Big sprites, good colors, good music and voices. The game runs fine, but it is very difficult. I could not get past the second boss, I find it a lot harder than on MegaDrive.
Then I played some Gotzendeiner, really liked what I played of the game. Scrolling is a bit choppy. I think that the game won't be a good contender at the most replayable game however. I got stuck in some sort of caves, I will have to give it another try.
I started Anearth Fantasy Stories just to see how it was, and I get the feeling that this will be a fantastic game. I simply need to get in the mood of playing a Japanese game. I will probably be printing an edited version of the guide that you linked me earlier in the thread, it will be much more comfortable playing it this way.
Finally, I spent a maybe an hour on Spriggan Mark 2, and loved the game instantly. I find the visuals absolutely fantastic. Several parallaxes, a lot of sprites, a great sense of depth. The game was crafted with a lot of passion. I played until stage 8 (game was not very difficult on Normal) and had a blast. I stopped because it was getting late.
I also booted my Turbo Everdrive and two or three roms to see if everything was working properly.
On the technical aspect of the machine, I am really blown away by how capable the console is, considering that it was released in 1987. The console simply blows away the MegaDrive in terms of colors, this is absolutely stunning. Emulators and youtube videos never do colors justice, you have to see if on the your TV to understand it.
It seems to me that the PCE is a lot less constraining. You can display almost all colors of the palette, and the Genesis has a big constraint because the 64 colors are divided in 4 palettes, and every tile or sprite can only use one palette at once. When I see how the colors are divided around the screen on PCE, it seems to me that you don't really have this kind of constraint. I am not an expert, but it seems obvious when you see the games.
The quantity of stuff that moves around the screen with no or minimal slowdown is also a pretty impressive thing. It can manage a big number of sprites at once, while even maintaining impressive parallaxes (which are also made with sprites). This is a very interesting approach and I can't wait to see other games.
I will definitely be buying some other games in the future ! :)
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You finally get to play and you start with Altered Beast!?!? I love this game to death, much more than I should, but pretty much only the arcade game is at all playable.
Glad you enjoyed the system and posted some good comments. I'll keep checking in to view your reactions and to make fun of you for bad life choices (i.e. - Altered Beast).
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Played some Neutopia today. I completed the first two dungeons. I did not expect the game to be so linear, but it was otherwise pretty fun.
And Altered Beast is indeed a strange beast. Always had a soft spot for this game, such a unique experience and game-design in the end. I wanted to see how this port would run, and the game was not expensive at all.
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Lol altered beast...it’s beatable on hucard but it takes all your continues. The lack of I-frames is killer. Once you get to the later bosses they each take several minutes to kill. You can’t cheese the 3rd or final bosses.
The colors are nice on pce but I have found the palette still makes things limited compared to the Snes. Flicker is annoying at times and hucards tend to have small romsizes.
Make sure you get to try all the taito, irem and namco games. There’s a ton of them.
Dawn of ys is probably the best overhead adventure game on the system except for the Xanadus
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Dawn of ys is probably the best overhead adventure game on the system except for the Xanadus
Is this the game that was translated to English ? I will try burning an ISO of it one of these days. But I would really like to get my hands on Ys I & II first, if possible.
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Dawn of ys is probably the best overhead adventure game on the system except for the Xanadus
Is this the game that was translated to English ? I will try burning an ISO of it one of these days. But I would really like to get my hands on Ys I & II first, if possible.
Yeah it was translated into english. I personally like it more than Ys I and II.
If you're gonna play Ys I and II, I would highly recommend the steam version. It's based on a pc remake from the late 90s, and the sprite work is stunning. You also get multiple soundtracks, though not the pce version
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Thanks for the advice but I am the kind of person who loves having fewer pixels and playing on a CRT TV :D
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Dawn of Ys is an excellent game. Ys I & II is a bit more dated but worth a play through. It's certainly better than some of the other early versions like the NES version.
I'm waiting for the Xanadu translation so it might be awhile.
Emulators running on your computer never really come close to the real experience on the console, in RGB, with a good CRT TV.
I strongly disagree but I won't spend time trying to convince anyone otherwise, that would be a fool's errand. You can even get emulators going out to a crt, though it's even more work if you want to get it to a tv or pvm instead of just a vga crt monitor
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Never really cared for Altered Beast, be it the arcade, Megadrive, PC-Engine or any other version. The game just is not that fun for me. Not that its terrible but the gameplay just feels very mediocre. Maybe I don't have enough nostalgia for it.
Certainly agree about CRTs, original hardware+CRT is always great. There is pretty much no lag at all, everything feels so immediate. The change is really noticeable whenever coming from a modern computer/console environment. There are way more pieces in the lag chain than just the display, in a way its a current topic considering the virtual reality experiences.
Besides the speed CRT just looks right to me. I'm not a big fan of the LCD+framemeister+RGB look for retro games, the image and pixels are so sharp that it looks like a modern retro inspired indy game.
RBG definitely looks great but for me the general CRT feel is way more important than hunting down console variations with supposedly slightly better video signals. Also depends on the system, with Megadrive there is a huge difference between RGB and composite, with N64 everything is blurry no matter the connection (although not seen RGB in real life). I have Famicom/NES and PC-Engine hooked up via composite, N64 S-Video and everything else RGB. Thats good enough for me. Although PC-Engine might get a RGB upgrade in the future.
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I am pretty pro CRT too, I like the look, but a monitor is totally fine and emulation looks just as good. Honestly some systems are, imo, better via emulation. Newer ones though of course, not stuff like PCE, GEN, SNES etc...
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Yeah, Dolphin would be a good example of that, or maybe N64 emulation.
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Gotta love 4K resolution and texture filtering on dolphin.
Shame the GameCube didn’t get more games. Ps2 emulation is iffy and Xbox emulation is in the fetus stage
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For 3D games, you can get significant upgrades through emulators, like a better internal resolution, texture packs etc... Of course it is better, but it requires quite a lot of tweaking.
It is also better than playing on CRT in 480i. Interlaced is very aggressive, with a lof of "blinking" (not sure if this is the correct word). But 240p is just perfect for our old consoles.
I know that you can output to RGB Scart through VGA adapter. You can build a setup with emulators this way. Might do this one day :)
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I have been playing on a regular basis and really enjoy the console.
Recently I spent quite a lot of time on the excellent Devil's Crash. I also played a lot of Dragon's Fury on MegaDrive, for the sake of comparing both versions, and because both are great.
It is pretty great to be able to use directly headphones with the console (same on MegaDrive). However even on the minimum setting the sound is pretty loud. Still a good thing though.
Also tried some other games. I played Chase HQ. on PCE it is a fine version. Very fast scrolling. Also played Chase HQ II on MegaDrive, pretty good game for the console.
After Burner II and Street Fighter 2 are very impressive ports. SFII displays some great palettes and plays just fine.
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Devil's Crash is awesome it is one of my top 3 pinball video games.
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Devil's Crash is awesome it is one of my top 3 pinball video games.
Agreed. My favorite pinball games are Last Gladiators and Necronomicon on Sega Saturn.
Definitely check them out !
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Devil's Crash is awesome it is one of my top 3 pinball video games.
Agreed. My favorite pinball games are Last Gladiators and Necronomicon on Sega Saturn.
Definitely check them out !
Funny you mention them, as those are the other two in my top 3. :D
I even own a copy of Last Gladiators 9.7.
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I almost forgot, there is a hidden table on Last Gladiators. It's really just credits but they are delivered game style as you play pinball. Something worth seeing once for sure. xyzxyzcba↑↑start at the start menu.