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Title: Any pce experts or devs know the "true" romsizes of PCE CD games?
Post by: lukester on March 21, 2018, 03:41:02 PM

I always found it fascinating how the snes and genny got big 16 megabit and 24 megabit carts. I know pce definitely had some large CD games but I'm kinda curious what the breakdown is (I would guess without Redbook and cutscene art?)

I think BT said years ago that Rondo was an 18 megabit game?

Title: Re: Any pce experts or devs know the "true" romsizes of PCE CD games?
Post by: Black Tiger on March 21, 2018, 04:22:13 PM

Isn't Spriggan 6 stages? That would make the in-game content 3 megs total, but everything reused, from player sprites to effects and probably a fair ammount of code, would not take up the same space six times over in a single rom.

So a HuCard version of Spriggan with cinematics on the same level as Musha should be around 3 megs, but definitely no more than 4 megs with gratuitous sound samples.

Title: Re: Any pce experts or devs know the "true" romsizes of PCE CD games?
Post by: Winniez on March 30, 2018, 08:37:58 AM

I would be interested to hear about the data breakdown of the CD games. My guess is that since you couldn't really stream data straight from the CD, the RAM was quite a bottle neck.

Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean were actually 48meg carts on Super Famicom.

Title: Re: Any pce experts or devs know the "true" romsizes of PCE CD games?
Post by: Black Tiger on March 30, 2018, 09:19:19 AM

Games with streaming fmv (not stuff like Gunbusters)  do streaming.

Tenchi wo Kurau also streams its stages.

Title: Re: Any pce experts or devs know the "true" romsizes of PCE CD games?
Post by: Punch on March 30, 2018, 01:32:54 PM

Quote from: Black Tiger on March 30, 2018, 09:19:19 AM

Tenchi wo Kurau also streams its stages.

So that's the infamous game that glitches out badly during stages if you open the disc lid lol. BTW, wouldn't the name of the game be Tenchi o Kurau?

Title: Re: Any pce experts or devs know the "true" romsizes of PCE CD games?
Post by: ccovell on March 30, 2018, 04:19:25 PM

Quote from: Punch on March 30, 2018, 01:32:54 PM

So that's the infamous game that glitches out badly during stages if you open the disc lid lol. BTW, wouldn't the name of the game be Tenchi o Kurau?

It is technically the object marker "wo" (http://www.chrismcovell.com/japanese/ohiragana.gif) so writing just "o" makes it lose its distinction when romanized.