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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: sunteam_paul on November 20, 2006, 07:40:00 AM
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Not getting mine until Christmas (it's not even released over here until December 8th) but I'd like some opinions on the good, bad and ugly games so far.
Zelda is a must-get of course :wink:
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Are there any other good games on the Wii? Doesn't look like it judging from the reviews.
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Are there any other good games on the Wii? Doesn't look like it judging from the reviews.
From what I see Monkey Ball is decent, Rayman is cool and I like the look of Trauma Center (as long as it's easier than the DS version). Of course the big guns are next year, like Metroid and Mario.
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I've only had the chance to play wii sports, red steel and Dragon ball Z, multiplayer. The former two are great; I wasn't impressed with DBZ, but I'm not a fan of fighting games, so take that with a saltshaker.
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Get Super Monkey Ball. That's pretty good. Excite Truck has less-than-Gamecube quality graphics (and fun). Tony Hawk is awful. Trauma Center is good if you liked the DS version, which I did not. Rayman was surprisingly good, but is not in 480p. Wii Sports is pretty fun, especially bowling (the only thing missing is cigarette smoke pouring out from the Wii to overwhelm you). I watched a friend play Zelda and that looks insanely boring. Then again I haven't liked Zelda since the glorious SNES version.
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I got Zelda and Trauma Center. They both rock! Wii sports will be more than enough to wet your whistle though.
More about Zelda: This game rules right now- Holy Sh*t!! Thats all I can say! Quite amazing!
TurboSage
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ya zelda is awesome so far, and Wii sports is great too!! Definitely looking forward to super smash, mario galaxy etc.
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Well I'm not much help because the only Wii game I have played so far is Wii Sports, which is incredibly fun! Me and my bro have played Wii Sports for hours and it's exactly what I wanted from new games: simple, easy to pick up and play anytime, and absolutely fun! You'll be amazed as to how well the Wiimote works with everything.
Also not only will Wii Sports keep you busy, but the various Wii Channels are really interesting and fun to look at, even though there isn't very much.
Will buy more Wii games for Christmas presents.
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I recommend you get a 360 instead.
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I recommend you dont. Ive been having a blast playing Wii sports with a few friends all afternoon.
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I recommend you get a 360 instead.
I recommend you don't start flames on threads that are doing fine.
That said, can anyone tell me how Red Steel is? I don't like typical FPS games these days, but I am interested in trying Red Steel because the aiming controls look pretty interesting and the sword fights look fun.
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Are there any other good games on the Wii? Doesn't look like it judging from the reviews.
Just curious, where did you find these reviews :mrgreen: ? I can't find any reviews on the games anywhere, not even Wii Sports!
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That said, can anyone tell me how Red Steel is? I don't like typical FPS games these days, but I am interested in trying Red Steel because the aiming controls look pretty interesting and the sword fights look fun.
5.5 of 10 - mediocre (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/redsteel/review.html). Has gotten similiar reviews everywhere except the sites that are endorsed by Nintendo. :wink:
360? :lol:
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I recommend you get a 360 instead.
Hahahahhahahaa.
Seriously, though, I recommend you guys get a Xavix instead*. Afterall, the Wii stole nearly all of its "innovation" from the Xavix. Plus, Jackie Chan Studios has not graced teh Wii with a single title.
*This message brought to you by a proud owner of the Xavix Super System.
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That said, can anyone tell me how Red Steel is? I don't like typical FPS games these days, but I am interested in trying Red Steel because the aiming controls look pretty interesting and the sword fights look fun.
I like Red Steel (granted I'm only in the first two chapters in) I'm sore from playing Wii sports with my wife and I've got work I need to do before I can invest more time in it and other games. :P
I do have occasional problems with controls. The point and shoot works okay, but I think there is too many reliance on motions that might confuse people a bit. The sword fighting works fairly well though.
I do like how the game starts. It reminded me of Halo in the fact that it more or less just threw you into a situation and eventually you were given hints and instructions on how to perform certain tasks. It helps in making a game immersive.
Personally, I also like the fact that I don't have to run around looking for health packs/shields, etc. If you're able to hide for a little bit, your lifebar recharges. On the flip side, the enemies also run for cover (when possible).
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised by the title. Then again, I wasn't expecting anything too spectacular. :P
I've also played a little Zelda, but I haven't gotten very far... The beginning is a bit dull, it's essentially a bunch of tutorials. It would have been nice if it just threw you into a situation like Red Steel. Granted, once the real gameplay starts, I'm sure that Zelda will surpass Red Steel. ;)
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Seriously, though, I recommend you guys get a Xavix instead*. Afterall, the Wii stole nearly all of its "innovation" from the Xavix. Plus, Jackie Chan Studios has not graced teh Wii with a single title.
The Xavix was little more than a prototype machine...the games play like crap and none of them were very interesting to begin with. It's possible that Nintendo got some ideas from the Xavix, but I doubt it...this isn't exactly the first time Nintendo's messed with these kinds of control schemes. U-Force, anyone? Or perhaps Mattel's Power Glove?
And btw: GUTS, take your fanboyism elsewhere. :P :lol: ](*,)
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Seriously, though, I recommend you guys get a Xavix instead*. Afterall, the Wii stole nearly all of its "innovation" from the Xavix. Plus, Jackie Chan Studios has not graced teh Wii with a single title.
The Xavix was little more than a prototype machine...the games play like crap and none of them were very interesting to begin with. It's possible that Nintendo got some ideas from the Xavix, but I doubt it...this isn't exactly the first time Nintendo's messed with these kinds of control schemes. U-Force, anyone? Or perhaps Mattel's Power Glove?
And btw: GUTS, take your fanboyism elsewhere. :P :lol: ](*,)
No, I'm not talking about peripherals like the Power Glove (or my favorite, the Activator for the Genesis!) which were "novel" means of controlling standard games. I'm talking about the revolutionary Xavix, whose entire raison d'etre was to provide folks with an experience that the Wii is only just now introducing to the masses.
Every game on the Xavix was developed around its own unique control scheme. There are no optional controllers or pads you can use. The Power Glove and Activator (etc. etc.) never had any software that was specifically and exclusively designed for it. For the NES, the only item that comes close to this was the Power Mat (since the control scheme and software were closely integrated and you had to use the mat to play the games designed for it). (It goes without saying that R.O.B. / Gyromite aren't germane to a discussion about Wii aping the Xavix).
Anyway, playing games on the Xavix can only be described as "pure bliss."
Instead of throwing my wiimote around, I use nifty props! I have hand weights! I have a mini bowling ball! Boxing gloves! A mini baseball bat! Mini raquets! A fishing pole! A golf club!
Come on, face it, nodtveidt: even the MARKETING of the Wii is a carbon-copy of that found for the Xavix*.
Nodtveidt, I hereby invite you (and your family) to join me for a Xavix marathon. We'll play every title I own. I'll even let you use the Jackie Chan Studio 1-pound handweights that came with my dance mat (or, to be more precise, my "J-Mat")! Normally, I never let anyone use these weights, because I don't want them to get sweaty! :)
*I'm actually not joking about the marketing. Look at any of the marketing for the Xavix and I bet you'll find it indistinguishable from the stuff Nintendo is doing. This, of course, shouldn't be surprising, since Nintendo stole the entire concept of the Xavix when creating the Wii!
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The thing is, I got to play with a Xavix and about 6 games for it awhile back...there was a baseball game, a bowling game, I think a boxing game as well...but they were all very stale, and the control scheme wasn't too good either (ie. very VERY unresponsive gameplay, made me want to never own one...had to keep switching "controllers" as well, which was aggravating). Whether or not the Wii rips off the Xavix isn't really relevant...some of the best ideas on the market today were borrowed from previous experiments with the same concept. If you wanted to get anal about the control scheme, then we can say that every console throughout the 80s ripped off video game machines from the 70s...ideas get reused when the concept works, and that's how it is.
EDIT: I wouldn't normally say this to you steve, but err...you're sounding like a Xavix fanboy with all of the "Nintendo stole the idea!" stuff...
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Well I was joking around about getting a 360, I don't give a flying f*ck what system people buy, especially on a forum full of anti-microsoft drones. But honestly has anyone been impressed by the Wii so far? Talk about a huge disappointment, even Zelda is just more of the same old bullshit, hell Okami wipes the f*cking FLOOR with Zelda in every way possible and that's on the PS2.
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Well I was joking around about getting a 360, I don't give a flying f*ck what system people buy, especially on a forum full of anti-microsoft drones. But honestly has anyone been impressed by the Wii so far? Talk about a huge disappointment, even Zelda is just more of the same old bullshit, hell Okami wipes the f*cking FLOOR with Zelda in every way possible and that's on the PS2.
Umm I have been more than impressed with the Wii and I have only played the frickin' pack in game :D ! The controls of the Wiimote came out even nicer than I imagined and the menus of the Wii are even a blast to control. Even though Wii Sports is the only game I have played for it, it's a great example that shows what the Wiimote is capable of and it's just a helluva lotta fun. I know you don't like pre-NES games, but for us gamers that do enjoy those games, I think they will love Wii Sports because it is incredibly easy to learn and play and is piles of fun.
My bro just rented Red Steel, gonna go try it now!
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I know a ton of people impressed by the Wii so far. No one's sold on the "antiquated" graphics but virtually everyone I know who has one has been glued to the screen, even with the pack-in, for hours on end. If that doesn't spell satisfaction, I don't know what does...don't judge a console by its graphics, Wii owners obviously aren't.
Furthermore...NO ONE I know has the new PS3, and down here, you can walk into most gaming stores and pick one or two up if you have that kind of cash. But a Wii? Impossible.
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Call me old fashioned- but at times I say WOW! when I see the grafx of NEO GEO and Sega Saturn games, so to me the Wii grafx look totally amazing. I'm glad Nintendo went the route they did with the Wii in terms of grafx, theres plenty that the developers will be able to do with this powerful of a graphic processor!
Zelda The Twilight Princess looks better than most 360 games I've played BTW: just so you know- once you put in about 10 hours of this game you start thinking about 'calling in sick' and avoiding other responsabilities just to play.
Me personally, its been a HELL of a long time since I felt this way about a video game. Finally Video Games have evolved.....
TurboSage(my 2 cents)
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I've said this many times before about Wii's graphics, so I'll just say it again:
1. ) I don't care if Wii's graphics are going to be much or any better than Gamecube's because I think Gamecube has awesome graphics to begin with.
2. ) To me, X-Box 360 and PS3 games don't look any better than X-Box or Gamecube's graphics.
3. ) I'll take the awesome new gaming concept of the Wii over graphics :) .
Furthermore...NO ONE I know has the new PS3, and down here, you can walk into most gaming stores and pick one or two up if you have that kind of cash. But a Wii? Impossible.
Please tell me you bought a PS3 or two and sold them on eBay to make a fortune? :mrgreen:
Just played very little of Red Steel. Can't say I am impressed with it, but that's mainly because I don't like modern FPS games. However I can say that the sword fighting is really cool and fun and that I think it's probably better than any other FPS these days just because it's a little easier to control. (I have using a mouse + keyboard and I hate using the two analog sticks even more) I'm hoping Metroid Prime 3 will be a lot better since it's actually made by Nintendo and not a company I don't really care for.
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Please tell me you bought a PS3 or two and sold them on eBay to make a fortune? :mrgreen:
Hehe...if I had $1200 to invest, I sure as hell wouldn't invest it into two PS3 units...regardless of the profits I could make off of them. Scalping just ain't my thing...
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EDIT: I wouldn't normally say this to you steve, but err...you're sounding like a Xavix fanboy with all of the "Nintendo stole the idea!" stuff...
Nod, all of my posts about XaviX have been made with my tongue firmly in my cheek ;). Now, I really do believe that there are legitmate parallels between XaviX and Wii... but my posts were purposely outrageous!
Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me :).
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EDIT: I wouldn't normally say this to you steve, but err...you're sounding like a Xavix fanboy with all of the "Nintendo stole the idea!" stuff...
Nod, all of my posts about XaviX have been made with my tongue firmly in my cheek ;). Now, I really do believe that there are legitmate parallels between XaviX and Wii... but my posts were purposely outrageous!
Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me :).
For serious,I was totally convinced you thought it was a better gaming experience then anything else. You were starting to scare me. As for Gutts,your on here bitching about people on here hating Microsoft,but your also coming off as a extreme fanboy,like those defensive Sega Genesis kids that cried when Mortal Kombat 2 was released and was better on Snes.
Every system is going to have something to offer someone,and it just so happens that unless you have a HD TV or a nice VGA monitor with a cable for the 360,there isnt much point in owning one yet. With a lower end set up you dont really get to appreaciate what the 360 is supposed to offer,HD gaming.
Im iffy on the PS3,as I didnt like the PS2. I only see 2 games I want to play,and unless they release a VGA cable,I wont even think of buying one,because I have no plans to buy a HD TV. The Wii however is something I could get right now,be satisified with the composite or s-video function,and not worry too much. It requires little hassle to enjoy,and to me,what you get out of the box is worth the price.
Its pretty much designed for 640x480 res. Its also offering stuff I want,Gamecube capability,games my kids can play,and the potential to be hacked and allow normal roms to be played possibly without buying them. It is more of a family system. If I want to play on a hard core gaming system,Ill continue to play on my gaming pc,which mops the floor with the PS3 and 360 both.
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And Gutts,I love Microsoft,because of them,my awesome gaming computer is running on XP X64 edition. Not Linux:P
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Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me :).
Hey can I join? :)
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After playing more of Red Steel and getting to the controls more, I am enjoying the game a lot more. The controls take a bit to get used to, but after that it feels rather nice and works great for the FPS style. I also love the style of this game, it's kind of early 90's in a strange way. This game is also a lot more straight forward than other FPS', which is a plus side in my book.
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Hmmm, Xavix... was that some kind of toy/video game that only got released in North America? I've never heard of it before but I have heard of other strange "video game" systems directed at children.
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Of course, I wasn't joking about inviting you over for a XaviX marathon. I would be honored if joined me :).
Hey can I join? :)
Dude, of course :). I know you'd love to use the running / dancing mat... since, at random times, and for no apparent reason, NINJAS ATTACK YOU. Granted, you are running an obstacle course through the streets of Hong Kong... but still...
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Hmmm, Xavix... was that some kind of toy/video game that only got released in North America? I've never heard of it before but I have heard of other strange "video game" systems directed at children.
Xavix was marketed towards everyone -- just like Nintendo's doing with the Wii. And all of the marketing showed families playing sports games together (hmmm, where have I seen that recently?) and it reached out to non-gamers. In fact, I would go so far as to say non-gamers (or non-traditional gamers) was *the* crucial demographic Xavix was looking for. They have fitness/exercise games, for goodness sake!
A year ago I bought a Xavix for my wife... and we still enjoy playing the stupid thing (the boxing and fitness titles, mostly). I thought the silly dance pad was going to break in a month, but thankfully it is still working.
I honestly can't believe the company is still in business (especially in NA). I should look at the Japanese website and see if they released any new games that aren't available here in the states. Their release schedule is like.... uhhhhhh.... 1-2 titles per year!
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Dude if you really saw a couple PS3 systems sitting on the shelf you would have bought them, end of story. There's no way in HELL you saw a couple systems just sitting there when they're getting $1000+ on ebay.
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Dude if you really saw a couple PS3 systems sitting on the shelf you would have bought them, end of story. There's no way in HELL you saw a couple systems just sitting there when they're getting $1000+ on ebay.
Well,considering it would take a investment upfront of 1200 + bucks to do,maybe hes more worried about making rent next week then proving a point to you.
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why not just buy 1 system using a credit card if you have no cash, sell it on ebay via a BIN auction, require immediate payment via paypal only, and pay back you card - guaranteed 350+ bucks no?
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BTW: just so you know- once you put in about 10 hours of this game you start thinking about 'calling in sick' and avoiding other responsabilities just to play.
That's awesome! I've clocked in three and am loving it already. I'm the wolf link right now, and a bit upset about those kids still having my sword. WTF?
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http://guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4578
Dont update your wiis yet.
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Dude, of course :). I know you'd love to use the running / dancing mat... since, at random times, and for no apparent reason, NINJAS ATTACK YOU. Granted, you are running an obstacle course through the streets of Hong Kong... but still...
Holy shite, that sounds rad to the max! The ninjas attacking you for no reason sounds so hilarious, I got to see that! :)
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http://guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4578
Dont update your wiis yet.
Ummm, that was the first thing I did. I did get an error message on the first try but haven't experienced any problems with the system. How would I check to see if my system is effected?
Also, starting a Zelda thread since it seems to be pretty popular. 8)
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I went into Gamestop in Arecibo yesterday to see if they had either of the new consoles left, it was the only store in the area I hadn't visited yet. All the Wiis sold out the very first day...while five PS3 units were just sitting there, waiting to be bought. They had a few Xbox 360s as well but they've been getting regular stock of them and they sell them well so that wasn't anything out of the ordinary.
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Oh yeah my Gamestop here has 100 PS3 systems just sitting there all forlorn even though they're going for $1000+ on ebay, while there are still massive riots and looting going on and half my city is on fire from the Wii launch.
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People down here are not as f*cking stupid as people in the USA. 'Nuff said.
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Yeah making money by selling PS3 systems on ebay is really f*cking stupid and only something stupid Americans would do. What an awesome, intelligent rebuttal to getting called out on your blatant lie. Let's insult an entire country because we're a f*cking liar, awesome.
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Yeah making money by selling PS3 systems on ebay is really f*cking stupid and only something stupid Americans would do. What an awesome, intelligent rebuttal to getting called out on your blatant lie. Let's insult an entire country because we're a f*cking liar, awesome.
This isnt a subject worth fighting over guys. The economy and demand is different in many areas.
Also,there was Ps3s available in certain areas of Arkansas too,and Wiis,in the smaller towns where people tend to not care so much about the stuff,like in Mountain Home ect ect.... people from bigger cities here ended up hitting these smaller towns to nab the systems up a day or 2 later. Not every place in the world is filled with complete idiots and overly obsessive rich fools who camp out for weeks in advance to play a system with 1-2 games.
Its getting so bad these days me and a friend have a running joke going about maybe going and acting like we are camping out at gamestop for Tekken 10 to see what the employees would say when they arrive and ask why we were there.
For serious,I dont understand why people do this for systems that obviously dont have any good launch games worth the price of admission. At least we knew the Wii would have great launch games. People always think they need stupid shit just because its in limited supply(faked limited supply) and they cant easily get one.
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Yeah making money by selling PS3 systems on ebay is really f*cking stupid and only something stupid Americans would do. What an awesome, intelligent rebuttal to getting called out on your blatant lie. Let's insult an entire country because we're a f*cking liar, awesome.
Yeah and wasting your time to ruin other's friendly, entertaining chats on message boards and calling people stupid is really smart and useful right? If you have no good to say, please avoid ruining other people's fun. :clap: Nodtveidt said he doesn't like to scalp, so the arguement is over. I understand where he is coming from and personally I don't give a whole lot about making money either, as you might already remember.
Has anyone played that Elebits game or whatever it's called? It looks pretty interesting.
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Virtually no one can afford even the basic PS3 here. $500 for a game console with no titles suited for a poverty-stricken Spanish-speaking island? Good luck...that's why there are so many available here. Only in the metro area did the PS3s sell well, the Gamestop in Plaza las Americas, the largest mall in the Carribean, was the only store on the island to sell out (mainly due to the high number of American tourists). Even the Xbox 360 struggled at first here but started picking up once more and more titles were available for it, right now it's doing rather well.
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Virtually no one can afford even the basic PS3 here. $500 for a game console with no titles suited for a poverty-stricken Spanish-speaking island? Good luck...that's why there are so many available here. Only in the metro area did the PS3s sell well, the Gamestop in Plaza las Americas, the largest mall in the Carribean, was the only store on the island to sell out (mainly due to the high number of American tourists). Even the Xbox 360 struggled at first here but started picking up once more and more titles were available for it, right now it's doing rather well.
Thats pretty much exactly what I figured.
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Anyone rock monkey ball or rayman? I'm not really a fan of either series, but am kind of interested in picking up a new game. I'm thinking to just wait until smash brothers and mario galaxy come out. No?
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Anyone rock monkey ball or rayman? I'm not really a fan of either series, but am kind of interested in picking up a new game. I'm thinking to just wait until smash brothers and mario galaxy come out. No?
Just got Rayman... I picked it up on a recommendation of a game for my wife to play. (She really likes Wii Sports, and tends to dislike games with more then 2 buttons to press and requires super-split second decisions.) We gone through the first 2 complete "stages" (each stage has multiple mini-games.) So far most of the mini-games are fun, and the Rabids can be hilarious. Each mini-game has detailed instructions, although there are still some hit-or-miss segments where you need a couple of runs before you get some of the nuances. Some of them are challenging, never the less.
Haven't gotten Monkey Ball yet... I need to complete some of the other games first.
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cool, thanks for the heads up man. Sounds like a fun game from what I've seen/heard so far. I'm thinking about just hanging out, maybe continue to add to my older games collection - might find some steals with everyone focused on the new systems. Zelda and Wii sports seem to be the best games for me right now.
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Has anyone played that Elebits game or whatever it's called? It looks pretty interesting.
I'm really curious about this one too. If anyone gets it, please share your opinions.
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Metal Slug Antholigy,if it has blood,we plan to pick it up. BTW they are also releasing Metal Slug 1 for GBA. If it has blood,it will be worth picking up Im sure.
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Metal Slug Antholigy,if it has blood,we plan to pick it up. BTW they are also releasing Metal Slug 1 for GBA. If it has blood,it will be worth picking up Im sure.
Even if the blood is now "sweat", it will still be worth picking up :).
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Metal Slug Antholigy,if it has blood,we plan to pick it up. BTW they are also releasing Metal Slug 1 for GBA. If it has blood,it will be worth picking up Im sure.
Even if the blood is now "sweat", it will still be worth picking up :).
No it wont. People dont bleed sweat when shot. Thats the stupidest SNK blunder thing Ive heard since hearing of the decision to axe blood and gore in Samurai Spirits: Tenkaichi Kenkakuden. Its crap like that being said that let Agetec think it was going to get away with taking out blood in the Metal Slug X,Last Blade 2,Garou, and KoF 99 ports it published.
Th egames need to be left intact,as they were in the arcade,on the NeoGeo,and as for 6,on the Atomaswave.
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If anyone remembers on the real NeoGeo hardware, the blood was actually selectable in the setup. Maybe they do the same thing with the Wii release, and keep everyone happy. The purists, and the moral/religeous kooks. We'll all find out soon enough though.
I'm personally looking forward to Elebits. Looks like it could be pretty fun, and may be easy to get my family members playing.
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Metal Slug Antholigy,if it has blood,we plan to pick it up. BTW they are also releasing Metal Slug 1 for GBA. If it has blood,it will be worth picking up Im sure.
Even if the blood is now "sweat", it will still be worth picking up :).
No it wont. People dont bleed sweat when shot. Thats the stupidest SNK blunder thing Ive heard since hearing of the decision to axe blood and gore in Samurai Spirits: Tenkaichi Kenkakuden. Its crap like that being said that let Agetec think it was going to get away with taking out blood in the Metal Slug X,Last Blade 2,Garou, and KoF 99 ports it published.
Th egames need to be left intact,as they were in the arcade,on the NeoGeo,and as for 6,on the Atomaswave.
It's still worth picking up, even if it's missing a few ruddy pixels :)
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Metal Slug Antholigy,if it has blood,we plan to pick it up. BTW they are also releasing Metal Slug 1 for GBA. If it has blood,it will be worth picking up Im sure.
Even if the blood is now "sweat", it will still be worth picking up :).
No it wont. People dont bleed sweat when shot. Thats the stupidest SNK blunder thing Ive heard since hearing of the decision to axe blood and gore in Samurai Spirits: Tenkaichi Kenkakuden. Its crap like that being said that let Agetec think it was going to get away with taking out blood in the Metal Slug X,Last Blade 2,Garou, and KoF 99 ports it published.
Th egames need to be left intact,as they were in the arcade,on the NeoGeo,and as for 6,on the Atomaswave.
It's still worth picking up, even if it's missing a few ruddy pixels :)
Maybe for your kids. Actually,my 10 year old son wont play them without blood,even he knows the difference between real and fake SNK ports and refuses to play the censored fake joke ports.
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If SNK Playmore does it, then it's not fake.
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Oh there will be blood (for whoever cares)
Check this super long demo!! Six different controller configurations!!!! Check the tilt control method - What???!!!
Metal Slug Anthology for Wii (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/metalsluganthology/index.html)
Scroll down to the vid with Wii controller in hand!!
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If SNK Playmore does it, then it's not fake.
Fake as in it doesnt feel right when blood is missing,or the game has been altered to a degree to make it at least 96 percent less then it was on the original and in this case "weaker" system. For that matter,the last Agetec ports did infact feel rather "fake" and SNK did the programming.Frames of animation were missing in chunks,and blood. If its not as good in quality and content as the original,then it is infact a fake. Its not the original game,and it doesnt live up to it product wise regardless of who programmed the port.
If they cant because of ram limitations,as was the case with the PS1,or choose not to live up to the originals in quality and perfection,like they did with the US Dreamcast and PS2 KOF titles,then why bother?
Its a sham. A slap in the face to the real fans and buyers of these ports. Its like saying"even though we fully well can include everything and make it perfect,or even better then the original,we wont". Metal Slug and about any other SNK title esp,are not exactly made for the kidies or marketed towards them,older teens and adults,the SNK hardcore are the main buyers here for these games and so no blood nor other content should be removed. They should be left completely intact.
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Oh there will be blood (for whoever cares)
Check this super long demo!! Six different controller configurations!!!! Check the tilt control method - What???!!!
Metal Slug Anthology for Wii (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/metalsluganthology/index.html)
Scroll down to the vid with Wii controller in hand!!
Some of the control schemes look as useless and frustraiting as the Power Glove.
Otherwise it looks top notch.
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Fake as in it doesnt feel right when blood is missing,or the game has been altered to a degree to make it at least 96 percent less then it was on the original
More like 2 percent less than the original. Or 5 percent if we're talking about Samurai Shodown. If you want to discount the hard work done by the programmers, producers, musicians, and graphical artists just because a few unimportant pixels were removed, then that's your call. And I'm fine with that. While I'm playing awesome games like Tenkaichi Kenkakuden, you can play... well, whatever you play.
But the "bloodless" games aren't "fake". You just don't like them. Big difference there.
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I'm just hoping Nintendo never makes another shitty "Killer Instinct" game. GAH what a piece of garbage.
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I'm just hoping Nintendo never makes another shitty "Killer Instinct" game. GAH what a piece of garbage.
KI was rare i doubt they mess with it again.
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Just to post my comment, Agetec's Neo Geo ports on Dreamcast sucked. KoF'98 on Dreamcast was pretty good (still not as good as the original), but I don't think Agetec had anything to do with it, did they?
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Just to post my comment, Agetec's Neo Geo ports on Dreamcast sucked. KoF'98 on Dreamcast was pretty good (still not as good as the original), but I don't think Agetec had anything to do with it, did they?
What ? All agetec did was publish it for snk nothing more.
While i found the dc version of kof98,99,2000,motw and LB2 to be ok i don't think they were that bad.
If you want bad ports just look at any one for the, PS1 man "lack of ram" realy hurt it on ports from SNK.
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Just to post my comment, Agetec's Neo Geo ports on Dreamcast sucked. KoF'98 on Dreamcast was pretty good (still not as good as the original), but I don't think Agetec had anything to do with it, did they?
Dreammatch 99(98)was all SNKs doing,however,the blood was removed by Agetecs request in all the ports they published,because they wanted to get a lower rating,shooting for as many customers as possible.
Not all the PS1 ports were all that bad. Esp KOF95,which was really good,and utilized what ram there was really well. It seemed more like they got kinda sloppy over time in the ports,then naything else.
About the only ports worth getting were released in Japan,esp on Saturn,except some of the titles on Xbox over here.
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Fake as in it doesnt feel right when blood is missing,or the game has been altered to a degree to make it at least 96 percent less then it was on the original
More like 2 percent less than the original. Or 5 percent if we're talking about Samurai Shodown. If you want to discount the hard work done by the programmers, producers, musicians, and graphical artists just because a few unimportant pixels were removed, then that's your call. And I'm fine with that. While I'm playing awesome games like Tenkaichi Kenkakuden, you can play... well, whatever you play.
But the "bloodless" games aren't "fake". You just don't like them. Big difference there.
Theres a pretty big difference in blood and bloodless,as it not only changes a
few" pixels,but they also cut some of the other gory death animations like flaming soldiers writhing in pain,or,in the process remove tons of stuff completely like in Last Blade 2.
Metal Slug X over here on PS1 was horrible,no matter what you say,right along with most of the other ports.
As for Tenkaichi Kenkakuden,it dropped all the dark feelings the others in the series had present,so no,I dont desire to play that game. It has Guilty Gear knock off effects instead of blood,and the animation on characters isnt up to snuff to Samurai Showdown 3. They completely tried to rely on shere number of characters to save all the other problems with the game,and all in all its a pretty weak Atomaswave and import ps2 showing.
For that matter,some of the background ideas in Tenkaichi Kenkakuden are just really stupid,like the african one. It made no sense to see anyone sword fighting at a african village.
Typically the backgrounds in the series had something to do with story,or was in a area that had a major conflict going on in that timeline. There was always a good reason as to why the background was present,either for the story,as in the later games,or like in 1 and 2,because it was areas the characters were supposed to be from,or areas that were supposed to be their typical roaming ground.
The backgrounds in 1-5 were all designed wonderfully for the most part. Other backgrounds in Tenkaichi Kenkakuden just looked like poorly designed high res crap.
While you play it,Ill stick to 3 and 4,possibly even 5,although Im not a fan of it,I still like it more then Tenkaichi Kenkakuden. And when I get down to it,for shere hardcore classic play I perfer part 2 to all the others.
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Just to post my comment, Agetec's Neo Geo ports on Dreamcast sucked. KoF'98 on Dreamcast was pretty good (still not as good as the original), but I don't think Agetec had anything to do with it, did they?
What ? All agetec did was publish it for snk nothing more.
While i found the dc version of kof98,99,2000,motw and LB2 to be ok i don't think they were that bad.
If you want bad ports just look at any one for the, PS1 man "lack of ram" realy hurt it on ports from SNK.
The japanese ports are fine for Dreamcast,however the US ports were messed up. Same with Jojos Venture/Adventure collection disc for DC over here,as blood was completely sucked from it. I was pretty pissed,because blood really helped to add to the effect of all the onscreen violence in those games.
Alas,Im going back to bed. I keep getting up because people keep calling and waking me up. Ugg! Now the phone is off,so I can sleep soundly.
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Hi guys! I finally had the privilege of trying out the Wii last night at my local internet gaming cafe and let me tell you, I don't think I ever had this much fun playing a game console in years! 8)
First off, the system. I had no idea it was so small! :shock: It's just big enough to fit into your lunchbox!
Next, the games. The games I had the privilege of trying out were Wii Sports, Dragonball Z: Tenkaichi Budokai 2, and Trauma Center: Second Opinion.
Wii Sports - first game I tried out. After I had one of my friends create a "Mii" for me to use in the game, I was all set to go. :) The game I wanted to try out the most was bowling. At first, the controls on the Wiimote took a little getting used to but after a couple of minutes of figuring out the routine, I was ready to play. The controls were fantastic! The wind-up, the follow through, the tilt, and the physics involved really made you feel that you were playing a game of bowling! :shock: For the first few rounds, I could only get a few pins down, but by the eighth and ninth round, I was doing strikes and splits! Before I knew it, my rounds were over and I had to give the Wiimote to someone else to try out. I didn't have time to try out the other sports games as I really wanted to test out Dragonball Z next.
Dragonball Z: Tenkaichi Budokai 2 - second game on the list. I have to admit that the controls were pretty tough to master at first since there is a lot of characters with a lot of different moves and a LOT of different movements of the Wiimote to use. I decided to go with Piccolo and Goku for my trial. I went into practice mode and started practicing my Kamehameha wave that Goku uses. It was pretty tricky at first since I needed to use the nunchuk part of the controller and needed to hold down both the Z and B buttons to get it right as well as having the cursor on the screen at the same time. After a bit of practice, I got it. Man, does it feel euphoric to kick ass while simulating the fighter moves! 8) Next up, I tried Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon (or Makankosappo for you purists :P). Same deal only with Z and B while putting the controller near my forehead and spreading it out to simulate the "feel" of the attack. The game will take a lot to get used to and may kill the whole fighting aspect when all you want to do is get straight to the ass kicking but once you get the moves down, boy will you have fun! :D
Trauma Center: Second Opinion - third and final game on the list. This game was a lot more easier to control than Budokai Tenkaichi but still a little tougher than Wii sports. Trauma Center involves using the Wiimote to perform careful surgery. I got to play through the first few missions (didn't get to the mission with the defiliberator though...really wanted to try it :() and had to press the button sequences and adjust the Wiimote in accordance to how you use the different tools in your arsnenal. For instance, the A and B buttons had to be pressed simultaneously to get the "feel" of forceps while you needed to hold the A button down and carefully curve the Wiimote while following a straight line as if you're using a scalpel to perform an incision. Now, I've played the DS version and both games are similar in scenario whereas the Wii version has a few new twists thrown in. It all took a little getting used to but after going through the tutorial, I had a lot of fun. It really makes you feel like a surgeon performing operations! :D
And with that, I had my Wii experience. Forget the PS3 and XBox 360, I now know what system I'm getting for Christmas! :D
Michael, I've read your complaints about the whole "fakeness" of the games for Neo-Geo and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Hell, this goes all the way back to '92 I believe with Mortal Kombat for the SNES. Now, in the arcades, Mortal Kombat 1 had all the blood and decapitations. For the SNES version, Nintendo had to remove all the decapitations and replace the blood with sweat so that they can please their "family principles" with the game. I remember being confused at first then getting pretty pissed off that Nintendo did this back then. To add insult to injury, on the back of the SNES box of the port, they showed an actual arcade cabinet machine of MK1 and had the nerve to call it like it was based on the popular arcade. Ha! The arcade game was popular because of the blood and decapitations! It sold because it was controversial! Yet Nintendo thought that people would still buy into the censored POS that they put out. Yet, the Sega Genesis version allowed you to put the blood and guts back in through a special code. Before you can say FATALITY, every kid in the nation figured out the code and bought a Genesis just for the blood and to spite Nintendo and that version outsold the SNES version 3:1. Eventually, the whole "principles" concept fell flat on its ass with Nintendo and they were forced to appeal to the hardcore gamer just to stay afloat in the console wars. With the addition of ESRB ratings, it made it even easier for them.
I'm also aware of Jojo being censored in America with Dio pouring "water" and drinking "white wine" instead of "blood". It was stupid and made no sense when you saw Dio pouring "water" on his fallen opponents. :x
As for Neo-Geo being censored here, it is stupid. I mean you're talking about a system which has Mai Shiranui as one of its most popular characters...and we know what she's got! :shock:
P.S. Mike, tell your son he rocks for me! :)
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Hi guys! I finally had the privilege of trying out the Wii last night at my local internet gaming cafe and let me tell you, I don't think I ever had this much fun playing a game console in years! 8)
Same here. I'm not very impressed with modern games, but the Wii is making a big change and the change is absolutely working for me so far. I hope they make a lot of simplisitc games in the future for Wii like Wii Sports, because I love simple games you can pick up and play, which is something that's very hard to find these days. Of course I'll still love to play the "epics" like Zelda, and it seems that the Wii is taking both into consideration. Brilliant I say! :)
First off, the system. I had no idea it was so small! :shock: It's just big enough to fit into your lunchbox!
I wasn't so much surprised to the small size as I was to it's heavy weight! The box itself was really heavy when I first got it, but I was really surprised to see how much weight the Wii itself packed for such a tiny machine.
Wii Sports - first game I tried out. After I had one of my friends create a "Mii" for me to use in the game, I was all set to go. :) The game I wanted to try out the most was bowling. At first, the controls on the Wiimote took a little getting used to but after a couple of minutes of figuring out the routine, I was ready to play. The controls were fantastic! The wind-up, the follow through, the tilt, and the physics involved really made you feel that you were playing a game of bowling! :shock: For the first few rounds, I could only get a few pins down, but by the eighth and ninth round, I was doing strikes and splits! Before I knew it, my rounds were over and I had to give the Wiimote to someone else to try out. I didn't have time to try out the other sports games as I really wanted to test out Dragonball Z next.
Bowling is so incredibly fun and addicting, it's my second favorite right after Tennis. The controls and physics are so finely tuned, it just really creates a fun experience. I haven't had this much fun with a game in years and Tennis and Bowling on Wii Sports might be my new favorite tennis and bowling video games, with Tennis for Atari and League Bowling for Neo Geo being my original favorites :) .
Next up, I tried Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon (or Makankosappo for you purists :P). Same deal only with Z and B while putting the controller near my forehead and spreading it out to simulate the "feel" of the attack. The game will take a lot to get used to and may kill the whole fighting aspect when all you want to do is get straight to the ass kicking but once you get the moves down, boy will you have fun! :D
I don't know anything about that DBZ game, but that move sounds really interesting. I'm not into DBZ, especially the games, but I might want to try this game now. The awesome thing about Wii is that the controls really make you feel like you are in the game and it's like nothing I have ever felt before from a video game. There have been other attempts for this, like the notorios Power Glove or the laughable Activator, but the Wiimote actually pulls it off and does a fantastic job. The Wiimote's design also makes it very versatile, so unlike the Power Glove which seems like it would be really cool for boxing games, the Wiimote is really cool for any kind of game.
For instance, the A and B buttons had to be pressed simultaneously to get the "feel" of forceps while you needed to hold the A button down and carefully curve the Wiimote while following a straight line as if you're using a scalpel to perform an incision.
That sounds so awesome! I have always wanted to play the Trauma Center game for the DS ever since it was in Japan, but that forceps procedure you described makes the Wii version sound even more fun. Which version do you recommend me getting?
And with that, I had my Wii experience. Forget the PS3 and XBox 360, I now know what system I'm getting for Christmas! :D
Agreed. PS3 and 360 seem just like the previous generation, which rarely had games to excite or interest me. The Wii is taking a new direction and I am loving it. Not saying that I think the PS3 and 360 flat out suck (well maybe the PS3 since I don't even know any games that are being made for it), because 360 is starting to interests me a little with some Japanese RPG titles it's getting, like Tengai Makyou Ziria (in English!), Blue Dragon, and Enchanted Arms. For the price and the awesome new gaming experience, Wii wiins for me.
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Will do,hes a heavy Metal Slug fan. He wont accept anything less then blood filled perfection. He also likes Sengoku,Robo Army,and alot of others,but the Metal Slugs are his favs!
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I wish all gaming kids were like that: settle for absolute perfection and nothing less. What do those square suits know anyway? :roll:
Agreed. PS3 and 360 seem just like the previous generation, which rarely had games to excite or interest me. The Wii is taking a new direction and I am loving it. Not saying that I think the PS3 and 360 flat out suck (well maybe the PS3 since I don't even know any games that are being made for it), because 360 is starting to interests me a little with some Japanese RPG titles it's getting, like Tengai Makyou Ziria (in English!), Blue Dragon, and Enchanted Arms. For the price and the awesome new gaming experience, Wii wiins for me.
Blue Dragon actually looks pretty good from what I saw. And since it was done by the team that brought us Chrono Trigger, it just may be the game to save the 360. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if this game kept the 360 running a little longer.
I don't know anything about that DBZ game, but that move sounds really interesting. I'm not into DBZ, especially the games, but I might want to try this game now. The awesome thing about Wii is that the controls really make you feel like you are in the game and it's like nothing I have ever felt before from a video game. There have been other attempts for this, like the notorios Power Glove or the laughable Activator, but the Wiimote actually pulls it off and does a fantastic job. The Wiimote's design also makes it very versatile, so unlike the Power Glove which seems like it would be really cool for boxing games, the Wiimote is really cool for any kind of game.
Aw c'mon, the power glove was so bad in the cool sort of way! :P Yeah, it didn't do much except help you out in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out but from what I saw, it was pretty innovative. The Wii finally gives you the opportunity for true innovation to make you feel like you're actually using the items when all you're using is a remote control and an extra analog stick.
That sounds so awesome! I have always wanted to play the Trauma Center game for the DS ever since it was in Japan, but that forceps procedure you described makes the Wii version sound even more fun. Which version do you recommend me getting?
That's a tough one. While the Wii version gives you the "feel" of the tools in your hand with the right button pressing and the hold of the Wiimote, as well as having a bonus chapter and side stories, the DS version gives you a fair amount of simplicity and the usage of the stylus which also gives you the feel of incising and suturing for operations. They're both very good games. I would actually get both since they both have different feels for performing surgery.
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Aw c'mon, the power glove was so bad in the cool sort of way! :P Yeah, it didn't do much except help you out in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out but from what I saw, it was pretty innovative. The Wii finally gives you the opportunity for true innovation to make you feel like you're actually using the items when all you're using is a remote control and an extra analog stick.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love the Power Glove! We even bought one to use as a trophy for our annual video game tournaments. It's just so bad!
That's a tough one. While the Wii version gives you the "feel" of the tools in your hand with the right button pressing and the hold of the Wiimote, as well as having a bonus chapter and side stories, the DS version gives you a fair amount of simplicity and the usage of the stylus which also gives you the feel of incising and suturing for operations. They're both very good games. I would actually get both since they both have different feels for performing surgery.
Thanks a lot for the help! I'm glad to hear they are both fairly different games, so I'll have to try getting both of them in the future.
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I dont care what anyone says, but i loved the power glove. It really was shitty trying to use it with some pre-existing games, but thats to be expected since it wasnt designed for them.
PowerGlove on the other hand, was badass. It was really simple, but being as it was actually made for the glove, it was a ton of fun. Realy felt like you were tossing a ball around.
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Steve, reading over your posts, I can't help but notice that you're a diehard Xavix fanboy. I know where you're getting at with Nintendo ripping off the innovation features of the Xavix but I can also see why Xavix wound up flopping.
For there to be a specific controller for each game would lead to an awful lot of clutter and reduced space, plus it's not convenient. People want innovation but they also want convenience. The Wii gives you that convenience with the feel of operating different tools or holding different objects while all along you are really holding a remote control and an extra analog and button controller. Nintendo could've very well studied up on Xavix's drawback and improved on that concept.
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Steve, reading over your posts, I can't help but notice that you're a diehard Xavix fanboy. I know where you're getting at with Nintendo ripping off the innovation features of the Xavix but I can also see why Xavix wound up flopping.
For there to be a specific controller for each game would lead to an awful lot of clutter and reduced space, plus it's not convenient. People want innovation but they also want convenience. The Wii gives you that convenience with the feel of operating different tools or holding different objects while all along you are really holding a remote control and an extra analog and button controller. Nintendo could've very well studied up on Xavix's drawback and improved on that concept.
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Aw c'mon, the power glove was so bad in the cool sort of way! :P Yeah, it didn't do much except help you out in Mike Tyson's Punch-Out but from what I saw, it was pretty innovative. The Wii finally gives you the opportunity for true innovation to make you feel like you're actually using the items when all you're using is a remote control and an extra analog stick.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love the Power Glove! We even bought one to use as a trophy for our annual video game tournaments. It's just so bad!
That's a tough one. While the Wii version gives you the "feel" of the tools in your hand with the right button pressing and the hold of the Wiimote, as well as having a bonus chapter and side stories, the DS version gives you a fair amount of simplicity and the usage of the stylus which also gives you the feel of incising and suturing for operations. They're both very good games. I would actually get both since they both have different feels for performing surgery.
Thanks a lot for the help! I'm glad to hear they are both fairly different games, so I'll have to try getting both of them in the future.
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Very sorry, grahf! I accidenlty deleted your post when trying to edit mine! It was such an awesome post too!! :cry:
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Very sorry, grahf! I accidenlty deleted your post when trying to edit mine! It was such an awesome post too!! :cry:
Dude! You've got to stop doing that! :)
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Dude! You've got to stop doing that! :)
I know! And it's been months since I've last done it, too!
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While we are on the discussion of Wiis, check out my new update ;) http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/wiizard/index.html .
Another masterpiece. I like how the Neo cart is almost the same size as the Wii itself. :clap:
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Another masterpiece. I like how the Neo cart is almost the same size as the Wii itself. :clap:
The suspended GB was the highlight for me.
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Thanks for the comments! I was displeased with the "set design" for this episode though after finishing it because it didn't really give the impression that the Wii was a wizard, but on a positive side it does give it a funny ghetto look :D .
Another masterpiece. I like how the Neo cart is almost the same size as the Wii itself. :clap:
Haha yeah, that's the main reason why I decided to include it in the episode because I happened to have a MVS cart sitting next to the Wii one day and I noticed how they are nearly the same size (the Wii is just a bit bigger).
The suspended GB was the highlight for me.
Setting up that shot took the longest! It took me a half hour to find some string and when I finally got it set up, the Gameboy kept twirling around in air, so I had to take a bunch of pictures. I was thinking about using a controller of some sort or another portable like the Turbo Express instead, but I was afraid the thin string wouldn't be able to hand the weight.
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that's the main reason why I decided to include it in the episode because I happened to have a MVS cart sitting next to the Wii one day and I noticed how they are nearly the same size (the Wii is just a bit bigger).
So I guess that's why NeoGeo games aren't available on the virtual console... they won't fit!
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So I guess that's why NeoGeo games aren't available on the virtual console... they won't fit!
Pricesly.
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HEY!!!
Neo roms are not THAT big:P
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NEO-GEO
MAX 8" x 6" x 2" x 4lbs SIZE
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HEY!!!
Neo roms are not THAT big:P
Yeah they are...the smallest game rom I have is Crossed Swords, which is 2.59MB compressed (almost 6MB uncompressed...I think it was listed as 47mbits in stores). Compare that to the largest normal games on the PCE, which was 1MB (8mbit, with less memory required for program code than the Neo Geo) without special banked hardware built-in to the cart (ie: SFIICE).
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Well,the thing is you can store them on either the 512 megs onboard flashram,or on memory cards as I understood it that was how the Virtual Console stuff worked,so its not impossible for them to be on there at all. In this day and age 1 gig SD cards are pretty cheap. With stuff like that you cant really whine about the size of a Neo rom or say its too big. If your going to do that then you might as well whine about N64 roms too,because typically they are 20-40MB,and have topped 100 MB with Resident Evil 2.
Thing is,I have no desire to pay for roms. That will be the one aspect Ill prob never use,except maybe for some Nintendo 64 stuff,depending on the games available.
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Thing is,I have no desire to pay for roms. That will be the one aspect Ill prob never use,except maybe for some Nintendo 64 stuff,depending on the games available.
Completely agreed. N64 ROMs are the only ROMs I would pay for on the Virtual Console because of two reasons:
1. ) N64 emulation on PC sucks. (not just the emulation itself, but the fact that you need a decent controller to play them with)
2. ) N64 games seem too expensive for my tastes.
Unfortunately, N64 games cost $10 on the VC and because of that, I feel I'm better off buying the real carts. If they were $5 or less on the other hand, then I think I would be interested in buying some N64 ROMs for the VC.
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Thing is,I have no desire to pay for roms. That will be the one aspect Ill prob never use,except maybe for some Nintendo 64 stuff,depending on the games available.
Completely agreed. N64 ROMs are the only ROMs I would pay for on the Virtual Console because of two reasons:
1. ) N64 emulation on PC sucks. (not just the emulation itself, but the fact that you need a decent controller to play them with)
2. ) N64 games seem too expensive for my tastes.
Unfortunately, N64 games cost $10 on the VC and because of that, I feel I'm better off buying the real carts. If they were $5 or less on the other hand, then I think I would be interested in buying some N64 ROMs for the VC.
The only N64 games I'd buy on VC is Mario 64 and Shadowman.
Although I don't like this trend at charging more than $1 for roms of old moldy consoles, I'll probably buy every TG-16 VC game, if only to support the revival of PCE/Turbo, but only possibly one or two from other formats.
If they actually translate MSX games like Snatcher, I'll gladly pay $10 for them. But so far it looks like they aren't going to bother allowing us to make the decision of whether or not we want to buy MSX games at all.
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I might buy Mario 64 for the VC, but I'd definitely buy Waverace 64 as that is probably my favorite N64 game. And if they can make that look ever-so-slightly better like they did with Mario 64, then I'm sold. In my opinion the N64 really only has about 5-6 or so good games.
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Got a Wii and Zelda,still waiting for Metal Slug Antholigy to be released.
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Good stuff.
By the way Mike, I read on the Nintendo site that Metal Slug Anthology was rated T for Teens because it had blood in it. Though coming from the ESRB, who knows if it's going to really be blood or just sweat that is similar to blood.