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Title: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Emerald Rocker on November 29, 2006, 04:55:12 PM
Anyone play any good Xbox 360 games lately? I just escaped from Final Fantasy XII hell, and I'm looking to play something that's actually good. I might go back to Bullet Witch, which is yet another cool action game from Cavia. It's "careful" action, though... if you go in with guns blazing, you'll die right away. You've got to play smart and use the tons of cover provided to avoid bullets. You've also got some interesting spells, such as the ability to HURL CARS AT PEOPLE WITH YOUR MIND. Yeah, I like that one.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: GUTS on November 29, 2006, 05:47:09 PM
Well Phantasy Star Universe was a let down, but I hear Gears of War is the ultimate rawk. I watched a guy play it the other day and it did look pretty cool, the duck and cover shit look like Kill Switch only fun and the graphics are phenomenal. Also that Lord of the Rings tactics game is really good, even for someone who f*cking hates Lord of the Rings (like myself).
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on November 30, 2006, 12:07:58 AM
Gears Of War is the first game since Dreamcast to give me that exhilarating feeling that I get from great PC Engine games. Excpet maybe Halo 2 multiplayer. And I hate all fps games (except Doom 32X/Jaguar, Duke Nuken & Quake Saturn).
The campaign is fun enough, but the multiplayer is like any great classic, easy to get into with lots of depth and loads of fun. The graphics (and sound) are just a bonus.
Depending on your tastes, you'd probably either love or hate Oblivion. You should be able to get a used copy cheap though.
PSU isn't a total letdown, but Sonic Team locked up the entire online game and is only unlocking small bits every couple weeks or so, under the guise of new content.
There are lots of good regular games, like on all consoles. Again, depending on your tastes, many may be perfect or most may be bunk for you.
The demo for Lego Star Wars II is very cool. I'm going to pick it up cheap someday, but most of my next gen time right now is tied up with PSU & GoW.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: FM-77 on November 30, 2006, 05:51:15 AM
Burnout Revenge.
Best racing game - ever. Seriously! I absolutely love it and still can't get enough of it even though I got it over a year ago. If you haven't played it to death already (if that's even possible), you need to get it! You will not be disappointed.
It's probably cheap too.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on November 30, 2006, 07:44:33 AM
I love phantasy star Universe!! (but then I loved the dreamcast and gamecube versions) its the reason I got 360 last weekend!! Graphically its a let down since its basically ps2 graphics buts running at lovely 60pfs.. and you not expecting a online action RPG to reveal all its treasures at once are you? Mostly playing the online content but omg the offline stuff I sooo hate the american voice actors.. especially for Ethan Webar's...
PSU is the only game i'll be playing for years until hackers start to screw the game up like they did on the dreamcast version..
Other than that.. only other 360 game i'm desperate for is blue dragon....
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: GUTS on November 30, 2006, 09:27:19 AM
PSU is a let down for the reason Black_Tiger said, they locked up all the content. In PSO you could beat the entire game right out of the box, and then spend hours levelling up your character and hunting for rare stuff. In PSU there's only a few areas to explore and what, 2 bosses? It got boring super quick just running through the same 2 levels and fighting the same dragon over and over. Plus the item creation stuff is lame, gathering ingredients is fodder for a shitty GBA rpg or something, not Phantasy Star. AND there are no mags. Upgrading your mag and watching him take different forms was one of the best parts of PSO. Plus your armor doesn't even make your character look different, you have to buy stupid clothes which are all gay looking and there's only like 6 outfits.
About the only thing they did right with PSU is make the combat much faster and have more enemies/players on screen at once.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Emerald Rocker on November 30, 2006, 12:04:15 PM
I've never played a Burnout game, so I will give this "revenge" a try! 8)
Anyone have any more details on this Lord of the Rings game? I hadn't even given that one a sideways glance.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on November 30, 2006, 09:59:08 PM
If you've got an Xbox One, just buy that version of Burnout Revenge. Its the same game, minus the charging guage thing in the demo rounds and I actually prefer the graphics to the 360 version. Plus it should be easy to find cheap. I don't like racing games(except like Daytona and Sega Rally 1), but had a lot of fun with it.
The whole Synthesis system in PSU really does destroy one of the best parts of PSO, since you'll never find any rare weapons or armor online, just boards(recipes) with a slim chance of working after you dump 30 even rarer items into them.
Some of the rarer armor found in the offline mode does change the look of your character, but we'll probably have to wait a year or two for it to get unlocked. At least they let us into the 3rd planet so I can actually grind my C class weapons.
Also Dead Rising is supposed to be very cool and I can at least say that the demo was really fun.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: nodtveidt on December 01, 2006, 12:35:41 PM
IMO, the Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star series have both outlived their usefulness and MUST BE RETIRED. Seems Square and Sega are milking the life out of them, killing them in the process. We need a new RPG series!
Anyways...I have no idea about the 360's games, but I expect that perhaps we'll see some nice fresh stuff when XNA goes full-force. Indies tend to produce some of the most original ideas.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on December 01, 2006, 08:08:49 PM
PSU is a let down for the reason Black_Tiger said, they locked up all the content. In PSO you could beat the entire game right out of the box, and then spend hours levelling up your character and hunting for rare stuff. In PSU there's only a few areas to explore and what, 2 bosses? It got boring super quick just running through the same 2 levels and fighting the same dragon over and over. Plus the item creation stuff is lame, gathering ingredients is fodder for a shitty GBA rpg or something, not Phantasy Star. AND there are no mags. Upgrading your mag and watching him take different forms was one of the best parts of PSO. Plus your armor doesn't even make your character look different, you have to buy stupid clothes which are all gay looking and there's only like 6 outfits.
About the only thing they did right with PSU is make the combat much faster and have more enemies/players on screen at once.
yea I miss mag raising (love Sato and Soniti) and instant telepipes,Trifluids etc... since I made a force again.. But that partner machinery that sits in your room if you feed it items (like feeding mags) once it reaches certain levels it evolves and later on you can take it out with you into battle. and also obtaining certain boards you can synthesise armour and clothes not found in shops.
I'm not fussed with gathering items for item creation since all that boring stuff is also in most mmorpgs FFXI, Ragnarok etc etc.
I've encountered around 6 bosses so far and thats just at the C rank missions. On some worlds, once you clear the first mission (and depending which entrance your party leader takes at the hanger) they have the choice of taking one of two missions, either one should take you to a different boss.. some of these when you defeat the 2nd boss will open up another mission to another area and boss.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: FM-77 on December 01, 2006, 11:49:51 PM
IMO, the Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star series have both outlived their usefulness and MUST BE RETIRED. Seems Square and Sega are milking the life out of them, killing them in the process. We need a new RPG series!
While I kind of agree with this, I suggest you to play FF12 (if you haven't already). It is first good game in the series since FF3 (Famicom) to me. I could've done without the PS1 FF games, that's for sure.
And I wouldn't say they're milking Phantasy Star (not as much as FF at least). They haven't released many games (yet) - only ports and stuff.
Looks like Sega's really losing it though. Very sad.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: nodtveidt on December 02, 2006, 05:04:28 AM
I'll give FF12 a try but I really don't have high expectations. I really loved FF7 but I think the series just nosedived from there. FF9, the "revival of old-school RPGs", was just a joke and trying both FF10 games was a waste of time...
Yeah though, the Phantasy Star series wasn't nearly as pimped as the FF series but it does need to be put down also. In fact, I think the people behind it need to switch genres...
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: GUTS on December 02, 2006, 06:33:57 AM
Final Fantasy is hit and miss lately, both FFX games were awesome but XI was total shit and XII starts out incredible but loses steam about halfway through, same with FF9 (well it started out ok, got really cool, then lost steam on disc 2 and got boring). Phantasy Star really needs to go back to turn based and ditch this Diablo style stuff, they need to make a Phantasy Star V and continue off the old storyline with dark force, vehicles, 3D mazes, and turn based fighting.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on December 02, 2006, 07:43:28 AM
IMO, the Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star series have both outlived their usefulness and MUST BE RETIRED. Seems Square and Sega are milking the life out of them, killing them in the process. We need a new RPG series!
Anyways...I have no idea about the 360's games, but I expect that perhaps we'll see some nice fresh stuff when XNA goes full-force. Indies tend to produce some of the most original ideas.
Some proper sequals would be nice. Even if they'd have to be on portables to be 2D, that'd be fine with me. At least PSO/PSU is a seperate series and makes the distinction, unlike FFXI. I'm still waiting for either a real sequal to PS 1, if not completely gameplay wise, I'd at least like to play another game with the same MOTU-like medievil-meets-sci-fi theme. They switched to straight sci-fi with PSII and PSIII is more of it's own game.
I'll give FF12 a try but I really don't have high expectations. I really loved FF7 but I think the series just nosedived from there. FF9, the "revival of old-school RPGs", was just a joke and trying both FF10 games was a waste of time...
Yeah though, the Phantasy Star series wasn't nearly as pimped as the FF series but it does need to be put down also. In fact, I think the people behind it need to switch genres...
FFXII is the first FF since VI where I don't totally hate the art style. Its the first FF since VII to not look like a gay fashion show. I probably won't get around to trying it for a few years though. The first thing they need to do to return FF to greatness is bring back Amano for charcer designs and as much art as they can get out of him.
Phantasy Star really needs to go back to turn based and ditch this Diablo style stuff, they need to make a Phantasy Star V and continue off the old storyline with dark force, vehicles, 3D mazes, and turn based fighting.
Werd.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Emerald Rocker on December 02, 2006, 07:54:06 AM
Final Fantasy XII isn't terrible, but it was a huge disappointment. For the first half, the combat is basically automatic, but the story is cool. For the second half, the combat starts to get more interesting, but the story turns to shit and it introduces fetch quests. That may not seem weird, but in the first half of the game, FFXII makes fun of fetch quests, and avoids them... until the second half starts using some really LAME ones. (I heard the game switched directors halfway through, which is probably the reason for the sudden chance in attitude.)
Without spoilers: * Each character has a dilemma. When that dilemma is resolved, the character becomes boring. * One main character's inner conflict is resolved by a Deus Ex Machina character who is basically introduced just to make it easy for that conflict to be resolved. It's kind of like if Luke and Darth Vader were fighting in Return of the Jedi, and then Ramus Zebulas shows up and kills Darth Vader. Logical question: who is this Ramus Zebulas, and why is he interrupting an emotionally charged moment? .....that's kind of how it is in FFXII. * There are things called Mist Combination attacks that make boss battles -- including late ones -- jokes. You just have to sit through 40 consecutive cinematic sequences to use them. * You have to learn how to wear a hat. * You also have to learn how to wear boots. * ...and how to wear a shield. * Gameplay-wise, the characters are all the same. By the end, you will be playing with six clones. They do NOT have unique abilities. They do NOT have strengths and talents above and beyond the others.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on December 02, 2006, 09:02:40 AM
Final Fantasy XII isn't terrible, but it was a huge disappointment. For the first half, the combat is basically automatic, but the story is cool. For the second half, the combat starts to get more interesting, but the story turns to shit and it introduces fetch quests. That may not seem weird, but in the first half of the game, FFXII makes fun of fetch quests, and avoids them... until the second half starts using some really LAME ones. (I heard the game switched directors halfway through, which is probably the reason for the sudden chance in attitude.)
Without spoilers: * Each character has a dilemma. When that dilemma is resolved, the character becomes boring. * One main character's inner conflict is resolved by a Deus Ex Machina character who is basically introduced just to make it easy for that conflict to be resolved. It's kind of like if Luke and Darth Vader were fighting in Return of the Jedi, and then Ramus Zebulas shows up and kills Darth Vader. Logical question: who is this Ramus Zebulas, and why is he interrupting an emotionally charged moment? .....that's kind of how it is in FFXII. * There are things called Mist Combination attacks that make boss battles -- including late ones -- jokes. You just have to sit through 40 consecutive cinematic sequences to use them. * You have to learn how to wear a hat. * You also have to learn how to wear boots. * ...and how to wear a shield. * Gameplay-wise, the characters are all the same. By the end, you will be playing with six clones. They do NOT have unique abilities. They do NOT have strengths and talents above and beyond the others.
The plot/character development sounds like The Wizard of Oz, with the characters overcoming their weakness'.
The characters' being identical gameplay-wise would be alright if you could custom craft them from the get-go like the originator.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: nodtveidt on December 02, 2006, 06:25:56 PM
Hrm...from your description ER, I don't think I want to waste the time on the game.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Keranu on December 02, 2006, 09:01:51 PM
Bah i think my 360 needs to go in for repairs cause its starting to freeze up now.
Are you getting a red light on your power adaptor?
Have you tried playing with the power adaptor sitting across the top of an open box away from a wall?
Are you using a cooling accessory like the Interact fan or something?
I've had a few spells of freeze ups but have solved them all.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: FM-77 on February 15, 2007, 04:40:40 AM
It's time for the red lights...
...Of doom.
There's no escaping it. It WILL die. Very soon. Sorry to be so harsh, but that's what's going to happen. Don't be optimistic about it, you can't do anything to stop it.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on February 15, 2007, 04:59:24 AM
Bah i think my 360 needs to go in for repairs cause its starting to freeze up now.
Are you getting a red light on your power adaptor?
Have you tried playing with the power adaptor sitting across the top of an open box away from a wall?
Are you using a cooling accessory like the Interact fan or something?
I've had a few spells of freeze ups but have solved them all.
well its starting to get really hot now .. like after 5 mins .. the heat at the back feels like its been on for like 10+ hours..
I did get that red ring appear twice within the 3 months that I've had the machine.. I think its supposed to be a problem with A/V connection but that seems fine now..
Mostly started happening yesterday when enchanted arms started freezing up after few minutes of play the screen just froze and had distorted checkerboard effect but the lights were still green on the machine..
and also trying a few dvds the movie just froze after few minutes of play and ressetting the 360 straight after the machine just froze before the 360 logo could fully appear..
also tried clearing out the cache on hard drive and even playing a game from scratch without the hard drive connected up .. because according to MS call clerks my gamertag coulda been corrupted.. but the games still froze after a few minutes ..
and the power adaptor i think the light has only ever displayed amber or green light.
Well after calling MS up they gonna send of some labels and i gotta arrange for a courier to come pick up my machine but it seems like they only want me to send of the machine and leave the cables and power supply, controllers and hard drive behind.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: FM-77 on February 15, 2007, 05:38:22 AM
Soon you'll see this, and then it'll all be over. :(
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on February 15, 2007, 05:48:40 AM
oh hehe nevermind my console was bought around Nov 24th 2006 and since im in the UK i got a 1 year guarantee and im pretty sure MS can't say I've been negligent on my part and make me pay a fee.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on February 15, 2007, 06:56:26 AM
I got the red ring once or twice, but it was no big deal.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on February 16, 2007, 03:20:18 AM
I think I found out what the problem is... its internal cooling device begins to become less productive over time because of more and more use...
the last couple of days .. loading up Enchanted Arms and entering a first battle the screen would just freeze up and you get distorted image with strange pink-ish scan lines.. and if you switch of the machine and power up straight away it freezes upon the 360 logo.
While I'm waiting for MS to send me a pre-addressed label for me to attach my boxed up 360 and let the courier take it away.. I decided to buy an external fan cooler which attaches itself to the back of the console which Black Tiger and a few other people have mentioned and guess what..
No freezing! Even after 20 minutes play on Enchanted Arms... I gonna try a longer play test soon but I honestly now think that the 360 has a heat/cooling issue that gets worse over time..
I still gonna send my 360 away to be inspected but I honestly think those of you who haven't done this yet.. get yourself an external cooling fan and save yourself problems! it does make the machine a bit more noisy but I think you can bare it.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Keranu on February 16, 2007, 06:03:40 AM
Sorry, I was admiring that love Sega Saturn in the background instead of the 360. My bad :dance: .
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on February 16, 2007, 07:23:59 AM
Although many people claim that those rear coolers are a rip and do nothing, all I know is that when I use the Interact one my 360 feels cool to the touch and only slightly warm at the top center. But without it, the whole thing feels warm and then hot at the center.
After installing the black case on my 360, I took apart the cooler, painted the shell black and put it back together again. At first I got a buzzing noice from one of the fans, so I loosened it a bit. After that, the power adaptor doesn't seem to fit all the way in(there's no clicking mechanism) and I got the occasional shutdown with red power adaptor light.
I just went back to using no cooler and everythings been fine since, but I want to fiddle with it some more to get it working again because I don't want an ugly white cooler with the giant Interact logo across it hanging off the back of my black/chrome system.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: GUTS on February 16, 2007, 08:51:20 AM
I've had a couple 360s, the first one I had did run pretty hot but I never had any problems with it. Then I sold it for crack money, now the one I bought a few months ago runs really cool, I use it to both watch movies and play games and it never gets more than a little warm on the top. Hopefully once Microsoft switches to those newer chip versions later this year it'll eliminate the over-heating problem completely.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Black Tiger on February 16, 2007, 09:32:39 AM
I've had a couple 360s, the first one I had did run pretty hot but I never had any problems with it. Then I sold it for crack money, now the one I bought a few months ago runs really cool, I use it to both watch movies and play games and it never gets more than a little warm on the top. Hopefully once Microsoft switches to those newer chip versions later this year it'll eliminate the over-heating problem completely.
Recent 360's come with a two prong power adaptor while older ones like mine have a ground. So they've it looks like they've been taking steps to fix overheating/power adaptor issues. Maybe newer models will come with a power adaptor smaller than the original PS2. :wink:
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on February 28, 2007, 04:30:55 AM
Well my 360 came back today. Despite the scare stories they got my machine last friday and now that its arrived its the same model that I had originally still in the same condition I sent it off to them..
It was strange cause today I felt like giving MS customer services a call to try and get updates on how my machine was doing... and they told me that I should wait 15 days before I get my machine back.. the call center clerk also gave me a tracking number for me to arrange with UPS a collection time for when my machine was ready to be picked up...
Just an hour after that call my door bell rang and someone from UPS came and delivered my machine... :shock:
One thing for sure is that its been cleaned inside and out (got that strange chemical cleaner smell that you use to clean computer parts) and it now runs cooler.. before the air that was blowing out at the back felt like that of a hair dryer at warm heat settings.
Apart from playing Phantasy Star universe again I just got hold of ninety nine nights.
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Ninja Spirit on February 28, 2007, 04:52:20 AM
If I had a 360, I'd pick up Senko no Ronde.
Man if you mix manic danmaku shmups with any 3-D fighting game, you'd get this. Best thing since Psychic Force 2012
Title: Re: Xbox 360 recommendations
Post by: Digi.k on February 28, 2007, 05:44:46 AM
that game looks sweet.
I think 360 gonna get Ikaruga and Raiden IV downloadable from Live marketplace plus a new Treasure game is in development which I hope would be Ikaruga 2.
Phantasy Star Universe!! *GASP* I kinda had an inkling this was gonna happen but already Sonic Team are already planning an update sorta like PSU ver.2.. details although in japanese can be found here !!!!!