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Title: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 12, 2007, 02:39:53 AM
I just bought this complete for $10 I think down at the local PC Engine SuperStore on the corner.  Even though the graphics are completely laughable, I enjoy the game a lot.  The music is really cool as well.  I have a couple of questions about the game.

#1 - Is there any form of sound test in the game?  I don't want an HES file or something from a lame-o emulator.

#3 - What is up with the constantly alternating "WALK" / "DON'T WALK" signs?  The cars keep a-comin' even when it says it is OK to walk.

#7 - Why aren't there any digitized pictures of Viki Vale?

#2 - How many god damned stages are there?
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: sunteam_paul on February 12, 2007, 04:21:51 AM
I just bought this complete for $10 I think down at the local PC Engine SuperStore on the corner.  Even though the graphics are completely laughable, I enjoy the game a lot.  The music is really cool as well.  I have a couple of questions about the game.

Graphics ain't bad, the colouring is pretty nice and the cut scenes are great.

Quote from: Joe Redifer
#1 - Is there any form of sound test in the game?  I don't want an HES file or something from a lame-o emulator.
No, but you could try humming the tunes to yourself and recording them on cassette tape for a similar effect.

Quote from: Joe Redifer
#3 - What is up with the constantly alternating "WALK" / "DON'T WALK" signs?  The cars keep a-comin' even when it says it is OK to walk.
That coz they are the Joker's evil henchmen and they have no respect for the laws of the road.

Quote from: Joe Redifer
#7 - Why aren't there any digitized pictures of Viki Vale?
Because she was deemed too annoying to appear in the game.

Quote from: Joe Redifer
#2 - How many god damned stages are there?
All of them.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: termis on February 12, 2007, 05:31:34 AM
#3 - What is up with the constantly alternating "WALK" / "DON'T WALK" signs?  The cars keep a-comin' even when it says it is OK to walk.

Maybe it's not really Gotham city but China.  If you ever wanna play real life-frogger, check out China... hoooly f*ck...

Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 12, 2007, 05:57:10 AM
Nice to see that this game is getting some love :) .
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 12, 2007, 11:51:25 AM
Hmmmm... I don't know why I never thought of humming the tunes.  And I haven't made it to a cut scene yet... just to Gotham City Stage 473,465.

I love Sunsoft music back in the days of Blaster Master and Batman for the NES/PCE/Mega Drive.  Great stuff.  I should probably get NES Batman.... I hear it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 12, 2007, 06:12:12 PM
Well I've played this game some more and, well, it's pretty repetitive.  There's like 90 billion stages in each section.  The first section I am running around picking up litter in Gotham City.  Then I go to Fluegelheim Museum which has 10 trillion identical paintings that I need to clean.  The museum is designed in such a way that patrons must teleport to special rooms with no doors in order to see the paintings.  There are at least 50 billion of these rooms.  One thing there isn't billions of are enemy designs.  Or music tracks.  Or settings.  I also do not like how it takes 20 minutes for your batarang to return to you when you throw it, and for some reason Batman is paralyzed in fear and cannot move until his batarang returns to him, which leads him vulnerable.  You can also meet an instant death when you teleport and an enemy walks into you as you rematerialize (walking into Batman is enough to destroy him in this game). 

I like the Genesis Batman better.  At least I can fight violent criminals and bring justice to the city while I triumph over evil instead of spending the day worrying about litterbugs and vandals.  And it's more fun, has more great music and even a few cool graphics here and there.  Oh well, I don't regret buying this, though.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 12, 2007, 06:38:54 PM
It's definitely worth purchasing for the soundtrack alone. It's too bad the real version of this game got canned, it looked a lot cooler :( .
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 12, 2007, 06:39:36 PM
OK I'll bite.

REAL version?????
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 12, 2007, 06:48:16 PM
OK I'll bite.

REAL version?????

http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secrets10.html :)
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 12, 2007, 07:03:13 PM
Goddammit!  I want my hot Batman action!
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: TR0N on February 14, 2007, 07:27:20 PM
OK I'll bite.

REAL version?????

http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secrets10.html :)

Damn  :shock: :-({|= :cry:
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on February 16, 2007, 01:44:36 PM
Yup, it's a pisser, ain't it.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: FM-77 on February 16, 2007, 02:09:43 PM
The original NES Batman is nice. Is this one anything like it?
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 16, 2007, 02:24:50 PM
The original NES Batman is nice. Is this one anything like it?
You mean the one that was officially released for PCE or the original project that got canned? The one that was released is nothing like the NES one, instead it's kinda like Pac-Man except with the ability to throw a batwing. The one that got canned looks to be a platform game similar to the NES one.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 16, 2007, 05:38:44 PM
Isn't the music on the NES version similar to the PCE's Batman music?  I know the Mega Drive had it's own exclusive music.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Spector on February 16, 2007, 07:42:15 PM
The Batman version for the PCE does look odd compared to the others, but I think we should be glad that the PC Engine got something other than yet another platform game with 5 levels, five end of level bosses and all the other tired cliches.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: FM-77 on February 17, 2007, 05:40:51 AM
The Batman version for the PCE does look odd compared to the others, but I think we should be glad that the PC Engine got something other than yet another platform game with 5 levels, five end of level bosses and all the other tired cliches.

Yeah. I agree. Instead of getting that - we got crap!
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: cho_aniki on February 18, 2007, 05:42:32 AM

  Since we are discussing Batman, does anyone here know the different level passwords for the game?  I played it a few months ago and got to the chemical factory level, and today I realised I don't have a password to start there again.  The game is very long, too long to finish in one sitting, at least for my taste.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 18, 2007, 06:10:06 AM

  Since we are discussing Batman, does anyone here know the different level passwords for the game?  I played it a few months ago and got to the chemical factory level, and today I realised I don't have a password to start there again.  The game is very long, too long to finish in one sitting, at least for my taste.
Dude, I don't think anyone has beaten this game in one sitting :D .
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: cho_aniki on February 18, 2007, 06:29:28 AM

   Have you beaten it Keranu?  How many levels does this game have? 
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 18, 2007, 06:31:33 AM
I haven't beaten it, I've only played up the part when you're in the museum cleaning up paintings. I imagine there are approximately 292,807,346 levels.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: nat on February 18, 2007, 07:10:38 AM
I imagine there are approximately 292,807,346 levels.

HAhaha.  :lol:

I have to get a copy of this game.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on February 18, 2007, 09:19:51 AM
Isn't the music on the NES version similar to the PCE's Batman music?  I know the Mega Drive had it's own exclusive music.

Yeah, it is.  Atleast one song in this game, is the same song for the first level of Batman for NES.  Which happens to be, for me, a classic song!
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Odonadon on February 18, 2007, 04:01:43 PM
Isn't the music on the NES version similar to the PCE's Batman music?  I know the Mega Drive had it's own exclusive music.

Yeah, it is.  Atleast one song in this game, is the same song for the first level of Batman for NES.  Which happens to be, for me, a classic song!

I didn't know that, that's awesome!  I'll have to give Batman a serious try to see if I can get to that song :)

OD
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 18, 2007, 05:47:56 PM
It's like the second song in the PCE game I think.  You'll have to get to stage 4, which takes about 5 minutes, if that.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: sunteam_paul on February 19, 2007, 05:19:22 AM
If you want to skip levels, just maniacally wobble the d-pad around while pushing the button on the password screen. Eventually you'll get one pop up. I actually had the final level come up by doing this once.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Odonadon on February 19, 2007, 06:02:26 AM
It's like the second song in the PCE game I think.  You'll have to get to stage 4, which takes about 5 minutes, if that.

5 minutes... not sure if I could do it but I'll give it a shot.  I really do hate this game :)

OD
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: sunteam_paul on February 19, 2007, 06:27:32 AM
It's like the second song in the PCE game I think.  You'll have to get to stage 4, which takes about 5 minutes, if that.

5 minutes... not sure if I could do it but I'll give it a shot.  I really do hate this game :)

OD

Less painful to d/l the HES file 8)
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Odonadon on February 19, 2007, 11:00:39 AM
Less painful to d/l the HES file 8)

Good point, and in my efforts to rip the music to MP3s I discovered I already had many years ago :)  Forgot about the ol' Turbo2k thing.  One smart cookie over here.... :)

OD
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: torgo on February 20, 2007, 08:09:19 AM
I beat on one sitting back when I got the game in the early 90's. I was so disappointed with the Batman game for the MegaDrive (yup, I imported it, and beat it on my first sitting,) but I really enjoyed the PCE game. It kept my interest throughout the entire game.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Kaminari on February 20, 2007, 11:17:11 AM
I seem to remember there are 12 stages per level, and 4 levels in all. You do the math.

Like most platformers of the time, I personally think the "canned" version wouldn't have aged very well. What we have instead is a puzzle game that still stands the test of time, providing that you enjoy the concept (yeah, I'm one of those freaks).
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: ccovell on February 25, 2007, 12:46:05 AM
I felt like playing this game last night, and surprisingly enough, I played it all the way through in one sitting.  It's not that tough -- after getting used to the enemy patterns, it all comes down to getting your timing and positioning right.  I would NOT call it a puzzle game at all; it is an action/maze game, with the same type of enemy dodging and item collecting as Cratermaze/Doraemon/Booby Kids (http://www.mame.net/wippics/0402/boobykds_1.png).  If the stages and enemies get a bit tough, all you have to do is kill lots of enemies so that the extra lives rack up.  Batman is incredibly generous with extra lives, and it is this which makes the game quite easy, really.  The final bosses also have very simple patterns, so if you show up to the Cathedral with enough power-ups, they'll all be pushovers.  I found myself having fun in Batman, without even realizing why.   :)

Anyway, I also took lots of screenshots of the great cinemas in Batman, so take a look near the bottom of this page to see them: http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/gamesillust.html
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: peperocket on February 25, 2007, 12:56:33 AM
Great, thank you Chris for this screenshots !! :clap:
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Keranu on February 25, 2007, 02:43:26 PM
Anyway, I also took lots of screenshots of the great cinemas in Batman, so take a look near the bottom of this page to see them: http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/gamesillust.html

Thanks a lot for those screenshots, those cinemas look awesome! Hey do you mind if I borrow some of those in the future to add to my Pixaletted Celebrities (http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/pixelcelebs/index.html) page?
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: esadajr on July 26, 2012, 04:38:50 AM
I should probably get NES Batman.... I hear it's worthwhile.

just don't get Return of the Joker.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: esadajr on July 26, 2012, 04:40:02 AM
I just got this PCE version. I haven't played it much, it is fun in its own way.
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: soop on July 26, 2012, 05:15:03 AM
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen this thread.  I wonder what other hidden gems there are from years before I even joined.

I guess I'll find out soon enough :)
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: Black Tiger on July 26, 2012, 07:41:16 AM
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen this thread.  I wonder what other hidden gems there are from years before I even joined.

I guess I'll find out soon enough :)

Have you tried Gekisha Boy, Splash Lake, Benkei Gaiden, Final Lap Twin, Vasteel, Download, Psychic Storm, Blood Gear or Kiaiaden 00?
Title: Re: Batman
Post by: esteban on July 26, 2012, 08:51:15 PM
I just re-read this thread and remembered how amusing Joe can be when he plays some PCE/TG-16 games and writes about them (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png):

Well I've played this game some more and, well, it's pretty repetitive.  There's like 90 billion stages in each section.  The first section I am running around picking up litter in Gotham City.  Then I go to Fluegelheim Museum which has 10 trillion identical paintings that I need to clean.  The museum is designed in such a way that patrons must teleport to special rooms with no doors in order to see the paintings.  There are at least 50 billion of these rooms.  One thing there isn't billions of are enemy designs.  Or music tracks.  Or settings.  I also do not like how it takes 20 minutes for your batarang to return to you when you throw it, and for some reason Batman is paralyzed in fear and cannot move until his batarang returns to him, which leads him vulnerable.  You can also meet an instant death when you teleport and an enemy walks into you as you rematerialize (walking into Batman is enough to destroy him in this game). 

I like the Genesis Batman better.  At least I can fight violent criminals and bring justice to the city while I triumph over evil instead of spending the day worrying about litterbugs and vandals.  And it's more fun, has more great music and even a few cool graphics here and there.  Oh well, I don't regret buying this, though.





And for folks who never saw the original PCE Batmman plans, you MUST check this out:

OK I'll bite.

REAL version?????

http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secrets10.html :)


UPDATE: Chris updated his site, here is the actual page... Batman Platformer on PCE (not Pacman w/ Batarang) (http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secret/PCE_1989Q3.html#batman)

Title: Re: Batman
Post by: soop on July 26, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
I just re-read this thread and remembered how amusing Joe can be when he plays some PCE/TG-16 games and writes about them (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png):

Well I've played this game some more and, well, it's pretty repetitive.  There's like 90 billion stages in each section.  The first section I am running around picking up litter in Gotham City.  Then I go to Fluegelheim Museum which has 10 trillion identical paintings that I need to clean.  The museum is designed in such a way that patrons must teleport to special rooms with no doors in order to see the paintings.  There are at least 50 billion of these rooms.  One thing there isn't billions of are enemy designs.  Or music tracks.  Or settings.  I also do not like how it takes 20 minutes for your batarang to return to you when you throw it, and for some reason Batman is paralyzed in fear and cannot move until his batarang returns to him, which leads him vulnerable.  You can also meet an instant death when you teleport and an enemy walks into you as you rematerialize (walking into Batman is enough to destroy him in this game). 

I like the Genesis Batman better.  At least I can fight violent criminals and bring justice to the city while I triumph over evil instead of spending the day worrying about litterbugs and vandals.  And it's more fun, has more great music and even a few cool graphics here and there.  Oh well, I don't regret buying this, though.





And for folks who never saw the original PCE Batmman plans, you MUST check this out:

OK I'll bite.

REAL version?????

http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secrets10.html :)


UPDATE: Chris updated his site, here is the actual page... Batman Platformer on PCE (not Pacman w/ Batarang) (http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secret/PCE_1989Q3.html#batman)




WOW O__O

And BT, I was making a remark about necroposting ;)