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Title: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: MotherGunner on February 18, 2007, 05:53:22 PM
Hey guys, I ran into this link and I automatically thought...They STOLE VIGILANTE!

Check it out..

http://ppc4you.blogspot.com/2008/03/concrete-udder-kung-fu-72-v10.html

http://www.handango.com/catalog/ProductDetails.jsp?storeId=2218&deviceId=304&platformId=90&productId=122613&sectionId=7620

(http://assets.handango.com/pictures/731151/kf72sc002.png)
(http://assets.handango.com/pictures/731151/kf72sc003.png)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2ABZ20IFFq8/R-5R-fko5-I/AAAAAAAAA7c/IBn9P2_N1OI/s1600/kongfu.png)
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Tatsujin on February 18, 2007, 06:14:40 PM
yes, they stole it and messed it up just as much as it's possible :shock:
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Keranu on February 18, 2007, 06:25:13 PM
Hah, awesome find! I really want to play that game now, looks cool.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Joe Redifer on February 18, 2007, 08:12:31 PM
Those graphics look really bad.  Sometimes more colors ≠ better.  Plus the vertically oriented screen destroys the game.  Who wants to play games on a cell phone, anyway?  I barely even want to talk on mine.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: sunteam_paul on February 19, 2007, 05:28:09 AM
Law suit!
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: termis on February 19, 2007, 05:59:09 AM
And how is this a remake of "Kung Fu Master"?  The sprites look like they were lifted straight out of Vigilante. 

But Kung Fu Master.  Now, there's a classic.  According to Wikipedia, KFM was supposedly the very first beat-em up, but I'm trying to think if there were any others before that.  I thought of Mechner's Karateka, but they were both released in 84.  Hmmm...

Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: esteban on February 19, 2007, 06:41:00 AM
Excellent find MotherGunner :).

And how is this a remake of "Kung Fu Master"?  The sprites look like they were lifted straight out of Vigilante. 

But Kung Fu Master.  Now, there's a classic.  According to Wikipedia, KFM was supposedly the very first beat-em up, but I'm trying to think if there were any others before that.  I thought of Mechner's Karateka, but they were both released in 84.  Hmmm...
Yeah, this has nothing to do with Kung Fu Master. And you're right, the sprites are totally rippied from Vigilante and slightly altered (at times the pallette was merely changed, at other times it looks like they created new characters in style with the old ones -- like the fatman wielding a knife).

This is friggin' lame because it's a commercial product. Of course, like Keranu, I totally want to see how this thing plays! :) Oh, I'm so pathetic.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: nodtveidt on February 19, 2007, 08:16:07 AM
Definately a lift-job of Vigilante's sprites, and I made sure to write a review stating that fact. Of course, it'll probably never appear.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: ccovell on February 19, 2007, 02:01:42 PM
And how is this a remake of "Kung Fu Master"?  The sprites look like they were lifted straight out of Vigilante.
Vigilante is kinda like a spiritual successor to KFM.  You have a guy that looks and dresses similar to the hero in KFM, they're both by IREM, and they're both walk-along beat-em-ups with a lot of popcorn enemies.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on February 20, 2007, 11:22:32 AM
Hurts me to say, but I played the original arcade version of Vigilante on MAME once (never played the TG16 one), and I wasn't really impressed. Mainly because it was a tad too hard, and that lowered the fun factor alot for me.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Tatsujin on February 20, 2007, 11:36:16 AM
i haven't any problem with the difficulty level of the pce vigilante before. may be the last stage is some kind of hard.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: MotherGunner on February 23, 2007, 06:58:09 AM
I would get it.. except I use a pocket PC phone so it wont work on mine...  :(
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: nodtveidt on February 23, 2007, 09:19:31 PM
As expected, my review hasn't appeared and likely won't.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: esteban on February 24, 2007, 02:09:45 AM
As expected, my review hasn't appeared and likely won't.
DUDE! Post your reviews here :)

I know this thread hasn't generated too much interest, but I'm not the only one who would enjoy reading it :).

I think the designers were being disingenuous by conveniently omitting that they stole from Vigilante... they make it sound like the progression goes from Kung Fu (Spartan X)  --> Kung Fu 72

instead of

Spartan X (Kung Fu) --> Vigilante --> Vigilante Remix (Kung Fu 72)

Until Chris posted, I didn't know that Kung Fu / Spartan X (NES / FMC) was known also known as "Kung Fu Master" ...

Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: termis on February 24, 2007, 05:38:15 AM
Spartan X (Kung Fu) --> Vigilante --> Vigilante Remix (Kung Fu 72)

Until Chris posted, I didn't know that Kung Fu / Spartan X (NES / FMC) was known also known as "Kung Fu Master" ...

Yeah, I thought it was always "Kung Fu Master" in the arcades.  It threw me off a little when I saw the NES release, because I thought, "Why didn't say use the arcade name?"
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: nat on February 24, 2007, 06:11:05 AM
As expected, my review hasn't appeared and likely won't.
DUDE! Post your reviews here :)

I know this thread hasn't generated too much interest, but I'm not the only one who would enjoy reading it :).

Actually, the first day this thread started I read it and laughed SO HARD I could not bring myself to post anything. The title, the comments...

Folks nonchalantly talking about how they casually lifted sprites from Vigilante like it was no big thing. I brought up screenshots of this game and Vigilante in another tab and kept switching back and forth and it just fueled my laughter further.

Quote
And you're right, the sprites are totally rippied from Vigilante and slightly altered (at times the pallette was merely changed, at other times it looks like they created new characters in style with the old ones -- like the fatman wielding a knife).

Gold. Pure gold.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Black Tiger on February 24, 2007, 08:30:57 AM
And how is this a remake of "Kung Fu Master"?  The sprites look like they were lifted straight out of Vigilante.
Vigilante is kinda like a spiritual successor to KFM.  You have a guy that looks and dresses similar to the hero in KFM, they're both by IREM, and they're both walk-along beat-em-ups with a lot of popcorn enemies.

I like how in that one TG-16 promo video(Power Up?), they did a side by side comparison between Kung Fu NES and China Warrior (but no Genesis comparison :wink:).

They should've used Vigilante instead of China Warrior. But I guess they didn't want to seem like the TG-16 had a similar game with only updated graphics.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: TR0N on February 24, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
Looks like a clone for sure beside the rip spirtes!?

Can you say mugen  :evil:
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: nodtveidt on February 24, 2007, 02:12:10 PM
Can you say mugen  :evil:
MUGEN!

Ironically, at one point in time I wanted to make the character in Vigilante into a MUGEN character...never did though. Pretty much just stuck with backgrounds (anyone remember sn0ball's mugen page? that was me).
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Ninja Spirit on February 28, 2007, 04:40:27 AM
TANGENT ALERT!

Since no one's mentioned it yet, Kung Fu NES/Kung Fu Master is a movie-to-game adaptation of one of Jackie Chan's earlier flicks. The USA is fully unaware of this fact because back then Jackie Chan's popularity didn't go anywhere past Asia.

(Ahhh the dreaded Jackie Chan name change scenario)

1. Kwai Tsan Tseh > Spartan X (Japanese name, in which the Arcade/Famicom game was made from, soon to KFM/KF-NES) > Wheels on Meals (USA name)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0087578/
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: esteban on February 28, 2007, 07:57:20 AM
TANGENT ALERT!

Since no one's mentioned it yet, Kung Fu NES/Kung Fu Master is a movie-to-game adaptation of one of Jackie Chan's earlier flicks. The USA is fully unaware of this fact because back then Jackie Chan's popularity didn't go anywhere past Asia.

(Ahhh the dreaded Jackie Chan name change scenario)

1. Kwai Tsan Tseh > Spartan X (Japanese name, in which the Arcade/Famicom game was made from, soon to KFM/KF-NES) > Wheels on Meals (USA name)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0087578/
Not a tangent! Ninja, you know I love stuff like this :). Wheels on Meals, now *that* would have been a great name for the video game franchise.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Keranu on February 28, 2007, 10:10:41 AM
Indeed, Wheels on Means is a sweet name.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Ninja Spirit on February 28, 2007, 03:07:57 PM
How about this one? Remember the NES game "Phantom Fighter"?
(http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Phantom_Fighter_NES_ScreenShot2.jpg)

This too is based on a movie.

Geung si sin sang > Reigen Doushi (I think, I know the Famicom version was called that) > Mr. Vampire

Phantom Fighter was also bastardized with the cut scenes being removed so the film origins weren't obvious.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0089371/
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: TR0N on February 28, 2007, 03:46:36 PM
TANGENT ALERT!

Since no one's mentioned it yet, Kung Fu NES/Kung Fu Master is a movie-to-game adaptation of one of Jackie Chan's earlier flicks. The USA is fully unaware of this fact because back then Jackie Chan's popularity didn't go anywhere past Asia.

(Ahhh the dreaded Jackie Chan name change scenario)

1. Kwai Tsan Tseh > Spartan X (Japanese name, in which the Arcade/Famicom game was made from, soon to KFM/KF-NES) > Wheels on Meals (USA name)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0087578/

I've know that for while.

Still i wish it was on dvd with english subtitles.

All i can find is the english dub version on vhs  :evil:

While it can be found on amazon on dvd it's, just the chinese version.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: sunteam_paul on March 01, 2007, 04:25:45 AM
How about this one? Remember the NES game "Phantom Fighter"?
(http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Phantom_Fighter_NES_ScreenShot2.jpg)

This too is based on a movie.

Geung si sin sang > Reigen Doushi (I think, I know the Famicom version was called that) > Mr. Vampire

Phantom Fighter was also bastardized with the cut scenes being removed so the film origins weren't obvious.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0089371/


Mr Vampire is an amazing movie.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: esteban on March 01, 2007, 07:25:25 AM
How about this one? Remember the NES game "Phantom Fighter"?
(http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Phantom_Fighter_NES_ScreenShot2.jpg)

This too is based on a movie.

Geung si sin sang > Reigen Doushi (I think, I know the Famicom version was called that) > Mr. Vampire

Phantom Fighter was also bastardized with the cut scenes being removed so the film origins weren't obvious.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0089371/
Not only do I remember the game, but I remember the adverts and box art for it. I would have never guessed that these games (Spartan X, PF) were movie licenses.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on March 03, 2007, 08:59:00 AM
Another thing KFM and Vigilante have in common is that the original arcade versions for both were distributed by Data East in North America.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: MotherGunner on October 05, 2011, 07:42:25 AM
Bumping this old thread since the movie/game rip-off thread.

Do we know of any other Turbo games that were ripped off besides Vigilante?
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: Arkhan on October 06, 2011, 04:46:41 AM
Zelda ripped off Neutopia. 

Mario ripped off Bonk

Final Fantasy ripped off Cosmic Fantasy

yeah!

lol.
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: MotherGunner on October 06, 2011, 04:58:29 AM
+1
Title: Re: Smells like Vigilante...
Post by: DragonmasterDan on October 06, 2011, 08:41:20 AM
Zelda ripped off Neutopia. 

Mario ripped off Bonk

Final Fantasy ripped off Cosmic Fantasy

yeah!

lol.

You forgot that Wonderboy ripped off New Adventure Island.