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Title: Can't remember a game name, help!
Post by: Melchior00 on March 01, 2007, 06:38:38 AM
I am desesperatly searching a game that I once played on the Turbo grafx-16.
It was something like 12 years ago and I only played 1 time ! since the guy moved few days after..
The game was a 3d rpg - action game quite like zelda (not a scroller). The game visual graphics were much more realistic-mature looking than zelda or neutopia (something near castlevania). The only game sequence I can remember was playing in a dongeon room and fighting against a women-serpent boss who was throwing fire balls. I can't hardly remember if the boss hp bar was displayed but I think it was. At that time, I didn't knew anything about he's black game system. 90% certain that it was Turbo grafx 16. The game was stored on a card not a cd.
Thx alot for the investigation! :P
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Post by: Necromancer on March 01, 2007, 08:01:27 AM
Sorry - I'm not sure what game you are talking about. If you're looking for an action rpg like Zelda, then the choices are pretty limited. You already shot down Neutopia (and likely Neutopia II) for cartoony art - if I understand 'more realistic - mature looking' correctly. Perhaps you're looking for Dungeon Explorer. It's an overhead action game similar to Zelda, but is pretty light on the RPG side. I seriously doubt that you are thinking of Order of the Griffon, as that is as far from Zelda as a RPG can get. Go to www.pcecp.com (http://www.pcecp.com/) and try looking up some of these to see if they look familiar.
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Post by: FM-77 on March 01, 2007, 08:26:44 AM
It really does sound like Dungeon Explorer.
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Post by: sunteam_paul on March 01, 2007, 08:27:51 AM
Was it 3D like isometric 3D or do you mean into-the-screen 3D like Dungeon Master?
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 01, 2007, 08:45:45 AM
Its was not a first person rpg like dungeon master. And its was not a 2d scroller like mario. Yes I tried dungeon explorer but I am not quite sure about this one. The blue stats screen at bottom tells me nothing.. :-k The game I played was showing the player and enemy hp bar alot like Ys serie. I can remember that the game was stored in a card.
Thx alot guys
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Post by: Keranu on March 01, 2007, 11:43:15 AM
Order of the Griffon?
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Post by: rolins on March 01, 2007, 12:59:19 PM
At that time, I didn't knew anything about he's black game system. 90% certain that it was Turbo grafx 16. The game was stored on a card not a cd.
So you're 90% sure it was a TG16, huh? Right now, I can't think of any 3D rpg for the TG16 other than Order of the Griffon and Double Dungeons. Maybe your memory is hazy, perhaps it was a SMS you were playing. That system did have games on cards that looked similar to the Turbochip.
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Post by: ccovell on March 01, 2007, 01:40:44 PM
It sounds a little bit like Cadash (though that's a side-scroller, it is very RPG-ish).
Are you sure it's on the U.S. Turbografx-16? A more Zelda-ish game on the PC-Engine would be Valkyrie no Densetsu.
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 01, 2007, 02:44:56 PM
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So you're 90% sure it was a TG16, huh? Right now, I can't think of any 3D rpg for the TG16 other than Order of the Griffon and Double Dungeons. Maybe your memory is hazy, perhaps it was a SMS you were playing.
Yep, its a possibility, Its really hard to remember clearly, we played meaby.. 15 min. :roll: SMS look unfamiliar to me but let's assume it was the good system. I'll do a research on this system too,
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Post by: Black Tiger on March 01, 2007, 03:01:25 PM
I am desesperatly searching a game that I once played on the Turbo grafx-16.
It was something like 12 years ago and I only played 1 time ! since the guy moved few days after..
The game was a 3d rpg - action game quite like zelda (not a scroller). The game visual graphics were much more realistic-mature looking than zelda or neutopia (something near castlevania). The only game sequence I can remember was playing in a dongeon room and fighting against a women-serpent boss who was throwing fire balls. I can't hardly remember if the boss hp bar was displayed but I think it was. At that time, I didn't knew anything about he's black game system. 90% certain that it was Turbo grafx 16. The game was stored on a card not a cd.
Thx alot for the investigation! :P
Did you have access to PC Engine games/was it definitely a U.S. title?
If it was a U.S. game, do you think it might be Night Creatures?
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 01, 2007, 05:18:25 PM
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Post by: termis on March 01, 2007, 05:26:49 PM
^^ I was thinking the same - maybe the woman serpent boss is this Medusa (http://www.pscave.com/ps1/ps1e/enemy28.html) here?
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Post by: nodtveidt on March 01, 2007, 09:43:47 PM
Remember, he said an ACTION RPG. Phantasy Star is not an action RPG.
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Post by: Michael Helgeson on March 01, 2007, 11:20:27 PM
Maybe he is just confused,and in the process confused us even more. I have no recolection of any US released title on TG that was like what he was talking about,unless there was a Medussa on Neutopia...
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Post by: nodtveidt on March 02, 2007, 12:02:46 AM
There's a Medusa at the top of the Twin Towers in Neutopia II that shoots fireballs.
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Post by: Michael Helgeson on March 02, 2007, 01:31:32 AM
There you go then,maybe it was that game???
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 02, 2007, 02:39:05 AM
Thx alot guys,
I tried many SMS rpgs and I really doubt this system was the one I played. Neutopia 2 ? Its meaby this one.. I played neutopia 1 and so far nothing looked familiar. My memory is quite unclear but does the tower nodtveidt talks is around a desert or something similar?. I remember that there was a kind of desertic theme in that place.. Does it take less then 20 mins to get on the top of the tower with the medusa?
I'll look for a working neutopia 2 for my psp. Everyone I tried so far crashed the emu. Thx again guys, I'm quite sure we solved this mystery.. :pray:
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Post by: FM-77 on March 02, 2007, 03:41:07 AM
It is definitely not Neutopia 2.
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Post by: Keranu on March 02, 2007, 06:22:36 AM
Wasn't there a Medusa (or at least a big female) boss in Dungeon Explorer?
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Post by: GUTS on March 02, 2007, 06:44:11 AM
Haha that tower with a Medusa at the top does sound exactly like Phantasy Star.
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 02, 2007, 07:04:18 AM
The medusa thumpin_termi showed looks quite familiar but the gameplay in the fight was not static, was not at first person like dragon warriors/quest. I remember that we had to dodge the fireballs and there was some obstacles in the room. Could someone give a list of every 3d adventure, action, rpgs on the TGx16 ? There are like 10 or less right? I tried many of them, also tried Exile since it has a desert theme. Unfortunately, this game is a 2d scroller when comes fights.
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Post by: Keranu on March 02, 2007, 08:43:12 AM
What exactly do you mean by 3D adventure?
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Post by: Necromancer on March 02, 2007, 09:04:45 AM
Pseudo 3d: Double Dungeons, Dungeon Master, Might & Magic III, Order of the Griffon (except on world maps) Side Scroller: Cadash, Dragon's Curse, Dynastic Hero, Exile, Exile: Wicked Phenomenon, Shape Shifter, Ys III Overhead (action): Dungeon Explorer, Dungeon Explorer II, Neutopia, Neutopia II Overhead (traditional): Cosmic Fantasy 2, Dragon Slayer 2, Ys I & II Boobies: Hawaiian Island Girls, The Local Girls of Hawaii :roll:
Ask and you shall receive! Kind of anyway - what did I miss folks? The only games that I would call '3d' are first person games. What do you mean by '3d'? It sounds to me like you are talking about 3/4 perspective overhead, which would narrow it down to one of the Neutopias or Dungeon Explorers. Peep out some of these games on www.pcecp.com (http://www.pcecp.com/) and see if they look familiar.
Title: Re: Can't remember a game name, help!
Post by: Melchior00 on March 02, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
Thx alot Necro,
Yes, well I mean 3d by being able to walk freely up, down, left right, etc. Like ff serie and zelda. Generaly the game texture is 2d sprites and the camera is fixed.
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Post by: Black Tiger on March 02, 2007, 11:14:34 AM
Yes, well I mean 3d by being able to walk freely up, down, left right, etc. Like ff serie and zelda. Generaly the game texture is 2d sprites and the camera is fixed.
Did you have a Turbo CD? Is it Exile?
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 02, 2007, 12:32:02 PM
That "3D" term was really throwing me off. Basically you mean an overhead game, but one that has absolutely no scrolling? If it scrolls from screen to screen (like Zelda) the it could only be:
Zelda (NES) Zelda 3 (SNES) Neutopia (TG-16) Nuetopia II (TG-16) Golvellius (SMS) Golden Axe Warrior (SMS) Crusader of Centy (Genesis)
What did I miss?
Title: Re: Can't remember a game name, help!
Post by: Melchior00 on March 02, 2007, 12:57:17 PM
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That "3D" term was really throwing me off. Basically you mean an overhead game, but one that has absolutely no scrolling?
:roll: sry I didn't knew the right term after all. We only played the game 15 - 20 mins and the only thing I remember was a overhead look with a boss girl serpent trowing fire balls.
The game system looked quite ''exotic'' to me so I doubt it was sega MS or Genesis since both sega and turbograf have are black.
I will try too :
Golvellius (SMS) Golden Axe Warrior (SMS) Crusader of Centy (Genesis
Title: Re: Can't remember a game name, help!
Post by: Black Tiger on March 02, 2007, 01:21:55 PM
That "3D" term was really throwing me off. Basically you mean an overhead game, but one that has absolutely no scrolling?
:roll: sry I didn't knew the right term after all. We only played the game 15 - 20 mins and the only thing I remember was a overhead look with a boss girl serpent trowing fire balls.
The game system was quit looked quite ''exotic'' to me so I doubt it was sega MS or Genesis since both sega brand and turbograf have black system.
I will try too :
Golvellius (SMS) Golden Axe Warrior (SMS) Crusader of Centy (Genesis
Maybe it was Ballistix? :P
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Post by: ParanoiaDragon on March 02, 2007, 02:57:34 PM
Gotzendeiner?
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Post by: sunteam_paul on March 02, 2007, 07:45:13 PM
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 02, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
Friggin Randar looks like Lolo to me.
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Post by: ParanoiaDragon on March 02, 2007, 08:22:34 PM
Yeah, but, Golvellius is partly side scrolling. :-k
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Post by: FM-77 on March 03, 2007, 01:20:15 AM
Crusader of Centy does not scroll from screen to screen. It has wide open areas. :roll:
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 03, 2007, 02:54:35 AM
thx for the help so far,
It's strange, Crusader of Centy graphics look familiar to me. Visualy, the game was looking very good. But I really doubt that the game I played was on a sega system. At that time, I had a n64 and a snes system and one of my friend had a sega genesis system. So, I knew both nintendo and sega products. When I came in his house and saw the game console of that guy, I couldn't put a name on it at the fist sight. + i remember the little red sun logo.
So I am pretty sure it was a turbo grafx 16. Meaby it was not a ''rpg'' meaby it was a ''action/adventure'' game. Like zeldas, alundras and stuff. Any overhead action/adventure game with dungeons and boss throwing fire balls (not obligatory women-serpent, simple women, or serpent ? very hard to remember sry..). Player and boss hp bar was displayed.
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Post by: Keranu on March 03, 2007, 03:53:17 AM
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Post by: GUTS on March 03, 2007, 06:14:22 AM
Are you sure it wasn't Ys and you just thought it was a card because he had the super system card in his system?
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Post by: Keranu on March 03, 2007, 06:24:59 AM
By the way, Melchoir00, you mentioned it wasn't Exile because Exile had side-scrolling scenes. Are you sure you just weren't confused with the overhead scenes in Exile for towns?
(http://turbo2k.net/images/screens/exile1.gif)
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 03, 2007, 08:15:26 AM
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By the way, Melchoir00, you mentioned it wasn't Exile because Exile had side-scrolling scenes. Are you sure you just weren't confused with the overhead scenes in Exile for towns?
Only thing I remember is the fight against that boss since we both tried to kill it without sucess. I remember that the fireballs could move freely , overhead view as much as us. I think fireballs were also homing a little bit.
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Are you sure it wasn't Ys and you just thought it was a card because he had the super system card in his system?
Mmm, do you mean that in order to play Tbgfx-16 cds you also need a special Ucard ? This could mean that Ys is the game, even if I didn't saw any disc manipulated. :idea:
Theres a medusa or something similar throwing fire balls in Ys ?
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 03, 2007, 11:38:37 AM
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Crusader of Centy does not scroll from screen to screen. It has wide open areas. :roll:
I've never played it before... just heard it compared to Zelda endlessly.
Oh, and :roll: yourself! Have a little :dance: while you're at it and also some #-o That'll teach you to mess with me!
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Post by: FM-77 on March 03, 2007, 11:50:49 AM
Hey, misinformation mustn't be spread about my favorite game, regardless of how minor it might be. :wink:
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 03, 2007, 12:12:31 PM
Well that's good to know that it's someone's favorite game, so it can't be horrible or anything. I really want that game. But it's going for around $60 or more complete (with giant book). It's tempting.
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Post by: FM-77 on March 03, 2007, 12:35:09 PM
The PAL version is a bit cheaper, and has a cleaned-up script (the american version is littered with typos and poorly structured sentences). Must be booted in 50Hz, however.
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Post by: nodtveidt on March 03, 2007, 01:09:26 PM
Only thing I remember is the fight against that boss since we both tried to kill it without sucess. I remember that the fireballs could move freely , overhead view as much as us. I think fireballs were also homing a little bit.
Then it was neither Exile nor Ys. Neither game has such a scene. Exile has fireball-tossing beatches but they're late in the game, and it's side-scrolling anyways. Ys has a boss that tosses homing-type projectiles at you, but this is about 2 hours into the game (in the Tower Of Darm, that silly Mantis-like boss).
Interestingly enough, although you stated that it's not Neutopia, the first boss (easily reachable within 20 minutes) spits fireballs with minor homing ability. However, it's a dragon, not a medusa or any other kind of recognizable female adversary.
Keep brainstorming, people...we can figure this out. :D
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 03, 2007, 01:15:57 PM
Hey Guys! I just found a game looking alot like the game I am searching : Xak
EDIT: I didn't found any info about the us version, still looking..
EDIT: ...This serie didn't made it to us and europe ? :\
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Post by: termis on March 03, 2007, 01:16:32 PM
Neutopia III.
I give up ](*,)
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Post by: termis on March 03, 2007, 01:18:59 PM
Ah yes. There was Xak... (I have 'em but haven't started playing through it).
That could be it...
And no there's no US version for em (not on the TCD, anyway). They're both SCD games. Xak I-II Xax III
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Post by: FM-77 on March 03, 2007, 01:22:31 PM
None of the Xak games made it out of Japan. Not any version.
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 03, 2007, 01:36:43 PM
duh, that sad, those Xak games looks really good. I just felt on an english translation patch for Xak III. I wonder if both 1 & 2 have been translated too. !?
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Interestingly enough, although you stated that it's not Neutopia, the first boss (easily reachable within 20 minutes) spits fireballs with minor homing ability. However, it's a dragon, not a medusa or any other kind of recognizable female adversary.
That the dragon right ?
(http://www.rpg.bajtnet.pl/t16/neutopia/n1.png)
In my memory, the room was bigger, there was a red theme.. I think it was lava surrounding.. And the room was alot bigger.
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Post by: nodtveidt on March 03, 2007, 01:50:24 PM
Yeah Melchior00, that's the scene I was referring to. I know it's not that game, but it was an interesting parallel.
Btw, Melchior...the guy from Xenogears?
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Post by: Melchior00 on March 03, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
Yep! and from chrono trigger, Neon Genesis evangelion. :dance: ^^
Origin comes from the holy bible ; one of the 3 Kings of the east. Caspar, Melchior and Balthasar.
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Post by: Joe Redifer on March 03, 2007, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: Seldane
The PAL version is a bit cheaper, and has a cleaned-up script (the american version is littered with typos and poorly structured sentences). Must be booted in 50Hz, however.
Ah, that 50Hz thing is a deal breaker unless I can find a Game Genie code to help me bypass that... just as long as the game doesn't run at warp speed as a result.
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Post by: ParanoiaDragon on March 03, 2007, 08:19:08 PM