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Title: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 28, 2007, 01:39:20 PM
NiGHTS is finally back after an overdue dream! http://www.1pstart.com/nights-confirmed-for-wii/
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Zeta-Gouki on March 28, 2007, 01:53:24 PM
Time for me to buy a Wii. :)
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 28, 2007, 02:48:18 PM
This isn't 90's Sonic Team though, this is MODERN-DAY Sonic Team. IE: Sonic 360, Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic Heroes, I can go on and on...

If they somehow manage to NOT f*ck this up, then we will be experiencing a MIRACLE.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 28, 2007, 03:04:27 PM
There is a big difference between a hugely popular mascot and a video game that hasn't gotten a sequel within a decade. When you have a character as popular as Sonic, it's easy to whore him out to make as much money as possible. I don't think this will be the case for NiGHTS, but we'll see.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 28, 2007, 03:13:05 PM
Yeah, this is definitely a "wait and see" game.  I wish we could have a version with some nice grafx though.  Wii's grafx are sooooo 2001.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 28, 2007, 03:15:50 PM
Yeah, and I'd actually like to play with a gamepad. Let's hope it comes to 360 if it's good.

If it sucks, SEGA, f*ck YOU.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 28, 2007, 03:18:47 PM
Yeah, this is definitely a "wait and see" game.  I wish we could have a version with some nice grafx though.  Wii's grafx are sooooo 2001.
If the graphics are anything like the Sonic game for Wii, I think they'll turn out nicely.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 28, 2007, 03:22:18 PM
I hope the gameplay isn't anything like Sonic for the Wii or equivalent!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 28, 2007, 03:23:47 PM
Ditto, that was a disapointment. I'm starting to see past the Wii's novelty...
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 28, 2007, 03:26:27 PM
I thought Sonic for Wii was decent. The whole style to it was mega gay as usual, but compared to the previous recent Sonic games, it's a big improvement. I think the new control scheme for Sonic on Wii worked out quite well.

But this ain't Sonic, damn it, WE TALKIN' BOUT NiGHTS INTO DREAMZZZ HERE!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 28, 2007, 03:27:53 PM
Yeah we're talking about a game that is very dear to me and holds my regards for SEGA in general in it's hands.

Let me reiterate: SEGA, DON'T f*ck THIS UP.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 28, 2007, 03:34:11 PM
I completely agree.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 28, 2007, 03:43:02 PM
Oh and while I'm thinking, June Senoue/Crush 40/Wavemaster, I love your music but stay the HELL away from NiGHTS 2. It just would NOT fit.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on March 28, 2007, 04:49:40 PM
I think NiGHTS would be okay on the Wii, if it controls similar to the original.  All you did in the original was just move the control pad in circles anyways!

Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 28, 2007, 06:21:43 PM
I think NiGHTS would be okay on the Wii, if it controls similar to the original.  All you did in the original was just move the control pad in circles anyways!
Before this game was confirmed, a lot of people were saying how perfect the Wiimote would be for NiGHTS. Not that I wouldn't want to see NiGHTS on Wii, but I don't quite see what would make the Wiimote so special for NiGHTS since you just moved in circles like you said. I guess using the Wiimote as a pencil or something to sketch circles would be kinda cooler.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on March 28, 2007, 07:00:52 PM
Yeah i've seen that so called europe mag says it's official.

I hope it's real and not a april fools joke  :roll:

Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 28, 2007, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: that one guy with a tongue twisting name

Oh and while I'm thinking, June Senoue/Crush 40/Wavemaster, I love your music but stay the HELL away from NiGHTS 2. It just would NOT fit.


I hope Rob Zombie does the music.  "Dragula" is in a lot of games already.  But it should be in EVERY game.  Whatever the case, I hope they license some music to put in there.  Licensed music is the way to go!  Look at EA games.  Ever notice how great EA is?  They would never dream of hiring a musician.  Even Sonic Wii tries to imitate licensed music by creating horrible, unlistenable music themselves.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: FM-77 on March 29, 2007, 02:34:18 AM
I hated the original Nights a lot (easily the worst Saturn game I've played) and I will never even give this game a chance.

What's the big deal? Why does everybody love Nights? Crazy!

Yeah i've seen that so called europe mag says it's offiicial.


It's not a "so called" magazine. It's a real magazine, and the only one I actually read. It's free too, and can even be downloaded in PDF form from their website. This particular issue will be out april 10th, and you can download it then to see for yourself.

http://www.gamereactor.se/tidningen/pdf/
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 29, 2007, 03:57:38 AM
Quote from: that one guy with a tongue twisting name

Oh and while I'm thinking, June Senoue/Crush 40/Wavemaster, I love your music but stay the HELL away from NiGHTS 2. It just would NOT fit.



I hope Rob Zombie does the music.  "Dragula" is in a lot of games already.  But it should be in EVERY game.  Whatever the case, I hope they license some music to put in there.  Licensed music is the way to go!  Look at EA games.  Ever notice how great EA is?  They would never dream of hiring a musician.  Even Sonic Wii tries to imitate licensed music by creating horrible, unlistenable music themselves.


I sincerely hope you're kidding. The original's amazing score by Fumie Kunatami, Tomoko Sasaki and Naofumi Hataya was AMAZING (My favorite track in the entire game: http://gh.ffshrine.org/song/627/14).

Here's hoping THEY do the soundtrack again.

And Seldane, man, go back to troll school...
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: sunteam_paul on March 29, 2007, 05:37:31 AM
I hated the original Nights a lot (easily the worst Saturn game I've played) and I will never even give this game a chance.

What's the big deal? Why does everybody love Nights? Crazy!


You've been around long enough to realise that your opinion is the complete opposite of 90% of the gaming population so I don't know why this surprises you.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 29, 2007, 06:29:16 AM
I hated the original Nights a lot (easily the worst Saturn game I've played) and I will never even give this game a chance.

What's the big deal? Why does everybody love Nights? Crazy!


You've been around long enough to realise that your opinion is the complete opposite of 90% of the gaming population so I don't know why this surprises you.
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on March 29, 2007, 03:39:28 PM
Yeah i've seen that so called europe mag says it's offiicial.


It's not a "so called" magazine. It's a real magazine, and the only one I actually read. It's free too, and can even be downloaded in PDF form from their website. This particular issue will be out april 10th, and you can download it then to see for yourself.

http://www.gamereactor.se/tidningen/pdf/

Oh i'm not doubting that the magazine is real just the info for Nights.

For matter why u.s mags didn't even know about it.

I also wounder why, Sega them self's never made a official statement... about making a sequel to Nights.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 29, 2007, 03:45:33 PM
I was under the impression SEGA HAS confirmed it...

And umm... Yuji Naka isn't working on it... that just makes me want to scream f*ck IT.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on March 29, 2007, 03:54:01 PM
I was under the impression SEGA HAS confirmed it...

And umm... Yuji Naka isn't working on it... that just makes me want to scream f*ck IT.
Yeah, Yuji Naka isn't with Sonic Team any more so that would be a cause for concern.

Best of luck to sega trying to do it but it's wait and see for me.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 29, 2007, 04:04:11 PM
I don't think it's too big of a deal that Yuji Naka isn't on the team, he designed the first one and that's all the inspiration another team is going to need to make a sequel. Also I don't know what kind of stuff Yuji Naka has done lately, I hope he wasn't incharge of any of the modern Sonic games.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on March 29, 2007, 04:40:31 PM
I don't think it's too big of a deal that Yuji Naka isn't on the team, he designed the first one and that's all the inspiration another team is going to need to make a sequel.

I know you've played a Sonic game recently, and the same principle applies here.

I'm not too optimistic about this NiGHTS sequel being any good.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 29, 2007, 05:15:01 PM
But once again, I think NiGHTS has a much better chance of getting a good game since it has not gotten any sequels before and is not whored out like Sonic is. Also a NiGHTS sequel would definitely be targeted more toward a "hardcore gaming base", rather than Sonic which is designed for money and kids. Of course I think it could easily be screwed over too, but I wouldn't compare it to recent Sonic games.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 30, 2007, 04:10:44 AM
Wha makes you think that because a game hasn't had a sequel, that it won't be whored out? What about all those whored-out retro remake games that suck, like Sinistar Unleashed? Sinistar was a great game, never had a sequel. Then they made the shit Sinistar Unleashed.

So I don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Necromancer on March 30, 2007, 05:15:24 AM
Keranu's correct: NiGHTS has a better chance (not a guarantee) of being good since it will be the first sequel.  I don't think that NiGHTS will sell well simply because it is NiGHTS, unlike Mario or Sonic.  NiGHTS is not that well known with younger gamers and more casual gamers, so Sega will need solid game play to attract a wide audience.  Of course, Sega can intend to do a quality sequel, but intentions and reality don't always coincide.

Wha makes you think that because a game hasn't had a sequel, that it won't be whored out? What about all those whored-out retro remake games that suck, like Sinistar Unleashed? Sinistar was a great game, never had a sequel. Then they made the shit Sinistar Unleashed.

So I don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through.

Sinistar Unleashed has fancy updated 3d graphics with faithful action, sound, and story.  It's buggy, but it ain't 'shit'.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 30, 2007, 07:04:43 AM
Wha makes you think that because a game hasn't had a sequel, that it won't be whored out? What about all those whored-out retro remake games that suck, like Sinistar Unleashed? Sinistar was a great game, never had a sequel. Then they made the shit Sinistar Unleashed.

So I don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through.
What Necromancer said :) . If it's good or not, I know you are excited about this deep in your tiny little heart, Kitsunexus :) .
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 30, 2007, 08:31:32 AM
Wha makes you think that because a game hasn't had a sequel, that it won't be whored out? What about all those whored-out retro remake games that suck, like Sinistar Unleashed? Sinistar was a great game, never had a sequel. Then they made the shit Sinistar Unleashed.

So I don't think you thought your cunning plan all the way through.
What Necromancer said :) . If it's good or not, I know you are excited about this deep in your tiny little heart, Kitsunexus :) .

Excited...and scared.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 30, 2007, 09:46:41 AM
The only thing to be scared of is your furry fetish.  8)
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 30, 2007, 10:42:40 AM
I don't drag it out as much people do though...
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 30, 2007, 07:04:50 PM
A Brazilian magazine supposedly has the first screenshots of the game! http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14397
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on March 30, 2007, 07:17:58 PM
A Brazilian magazine supposedly has the first screenshots of the game! http://www.gamebrink.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14397

I was looking at those shots eariler.

Man other, mags in other countrys have the news and the pics but u.s mags do not!?
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 30, 2007, 07:20:13 PM
Man other, mags in other countrys have the news and the pics but u.s mags do not!?
I know, what the heck. America rules the world, it should've got them before everyone else.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 31, 2007, 05:53:13 AM
Especially considering U.S. was like the main country who appreciated NiGHTS, much like Metal Gear Solid...
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on March 31, 2007, 08:14:26 AM
Comparing those two games in the same sentence is very bad taste, I think.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on March 31, 2007, 08:26:56 AM
How about NiGHTS and Space Shuttle Project?

Err, I guess it's not fair to have the best game ever made (Space Shuttle Project) in the same sentence as any other game. :)
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 31, 2007, 09:25:36 AM
Comparing those two games in the same sentence is very bad taste, I think.


HOLY CRAP NEW NIGHTS 2 RENDERS!

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/441121581_6b23471f89_o.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/441121587_8a20108dbd_o.jpg)

Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on March 31, 2007, 08:15:40 PM
Comparing those two games in the same sentence is very bad taste, I think.


HOLY CRAP NEW NIGHTS 2 RENDERS!

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/441121581_6b23471f89_o.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/441121587_8a20108dbd_o.jpg)




LMFAO  :lol:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 01, 2007, 10:08:24 AM
Comparing those two games in the same sentence is very bad taste, I think.

C'mon, nIght$ isn't that bad is it?
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 01, 2007, 10:34:17 AM
It's driving me insane, the more I read and see of this game (and revisit the old one) the more I think it's going to be the greatest game ever, at the same time I'm almost near;y choking myself to keep a grip on the reality that it's being made by the director of "Shadow The Hedgehog" and that this game has a HIGH probability of being dog shit and crushing my memories.

Yeah I guess I'm going emo for NiGHTS. :roll: :lol:

There's also the realization that the first NiGHTS was AMAZING, and that in all honesty, no matter how good the sequel can be, it will probably never be AS good. :(

Let's hope they include the first game on a second disc. And no matter what anyone says, I don't think NiGHTS has aged that badly, sure it looks crappy in screenshots, but running on a REAL Saturn, it still looks great.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 01, 2007, 10:53:55 AM
It's driving me insane, the more I read and see of this game (and revisit the old one) the more I think it's going to be the greatest game ever, at the same time I'm almost near;y choking myself to keep a grip on the reality that it's being made by the director of "Shadow The Hedgehog" and that this game has a HIGH probability of being dog shit and crushing my memories.
This isn't Shadow the Hedgehog, this is NiGHTS. This is geared at a completely different audience and isn't based off a huge gaming icon :) . I wouldn't be so worried about it, it's just a video game ;) .
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 01, 2007, 01:22:15 PM
But, to me, it is:

1. Memories of a better time in my life
2. A fantasy world that resonates with me profundly
3. A legacy of gaming that deserves respect, both as a milestone (the first game to use the analog stick (suck it Mario!), and a game that was arguably responsible for most of the Saturn's sales).

So to me, it's more than a game, and it's something to be worried about the success of.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on April 01, 2007, 01:37:02 PM
What if, due to this new Wii version, it becomes super-crazy-popular and then gets sequel after sequel including many spinoffs (like an Olympic game with Mario, etc)?
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on April 01, 2007, 02:09:13 PM
Then it would be totally gay.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 01, 2007, 02:10:06 PM
But, to me, it is:

1. Memories of a better time in my life
2. A fantasy world that resonates with me profundly
3. A legacy of gaming that deserves respect, both as a milestone (the first game to use the analog stick (suck it Mario!), and a game that was arguably responsible for most of the Saturn's sales).

So to me, it's more than a game, and it's something to be worried about the success of.
Well since this game already exists, you have nothing to worry about :D . If NiGHTS 2 sucks, so what? You still have the original to play that can relive all your fond memories.

Quote from: Joe
What if, due to this new Wii version, it becomes super-crazy-popular and then gets sequel after sequel including many spinoffs (like an Olympic game with Mario, etc)?
Then it has a 98.3% chance of sucking.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 01, 2007, 02:17:03 PM
What if, due to this new Wii version, it becomes super-crazy-popular and then gets sequel after sequel including many spinoffs (like an Olympic game with Mario, etc)?

Then I'd be out for blood.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 02, 2007, 09:40:57 AM
More NiGHTS information (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/02/nights-journey-of-dreams-confirmed-for-wii-this-winter/) . Looks like it's going to be called NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams and confirmed for a winter Wii release. I think Journey of Dreams is a pretty decent title name for a sequel, though maybe a little cheesy.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 02, 2007, 10:24:48 AM
Well since this game already exists, you have nothing to worry about :D . If NiGHTS 2 sucks, so what? You still have the original to play that can relive all your fond memories.

Try telling that to people that wind up hating rehashers like Capcom.  :wink:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 02, 2007, 10:41:48 AM
Hey I've never liked Capcom! New or old :P .
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 02, 2007, 12:05:07 PM
Hey I've never liked Capcom! New or old :P .

Seriously though, your 'since the original already exists, you have nothing to worry about' philosophy is how I approach sequals, remakes, etc of any kind.  :)

Which is why I can live with an adult Valis game existing.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 02, 2007, 12:36:44 PM
2000-era Capcom = SHIT.


And Journey Of Dreams is an alright title by me. Just don't make the MUSIC sound like Journey.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on April 02, 2007, 02:13:49 PM
2000-era Capcom = SHIT.
Only shit i've find in capcom is they gave up on 2d fighters.

I've like there games from old to new.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 02, 2007, 02:19:17 PM
I DESPISED RE4.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on April 02, 2007, 02:36:57 PM
I DESPISED RE4.

I love RE4 it's so easy a caveman can do it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/MetalSlug01/caveman_1.jpg)
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on April 02, 2007, 03:31:17 PM
I DESPISED RE4.

I love RE4 it's so easy a caveman can do it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/MetalSlug01/caveman_1.jpg)


LMFAO, that caveman looks like my neighbor. :lol:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 02, 2007, 04:09:54 PM
Actually, that caveman looks like the horrible HORRIBLE trance DJ Paul Oakenfold AND Jack Black. See thread for details (http://www.ishkur.com/community/comments.php?thread_id=3257)

I'd also say Jesus, but I don't know what the majority religion is on this board, so I'll hold my tongue.  :-$  :-"
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on April 02, 2007, 04:37:14 PM
Actually, that caveman looks like the horrible HORRIBLE trance DJ Paul Oakenfold AND Jack Black. See thread for details (http://www.ishkur.com/community/comments.php?thread_id=3257)

 :mrgreen:   :mrgreen:

Sounds like some one woke up on the wrong side of the rock.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 02, 2007, 04:49:48 PM
I've seen the commercials and love them. However he still looks like the people I've mentioned.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 02, 2007, 04:55:35 PM
Seriously though, your 'since the original already exists, you have nothing to worry about' philosophy is how I approach sequals, remakes, etc of any kind.  :)

Which is why I can live with an adult Valis game existing.
Same here, the hentai Valis game isn't going to alter my opinion on the previous games. I think one important game to me is the original Sonic the Hedgehog game. That game holds special nostalgia to me and is one of my all time favorites. Even though there are a lot of craptastic Sonic games now, it doesn't change my feelings towards the original game one bit. Of course there are times where a sequel can prove to be even better :D (though I am having a hard time thinking of one at the moment, but I assure it's possible!).
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 02, 2007, 04:57:41 PM
The hentai Valis game is offical? Why don't they do this with more games?

StarFox...  :pray:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on April 03, 2007, 12:28:09 PM
The hentai Valis game is offical? Why don't they do this with more games?

Have you seen screenshots of that Valis porn game?  The amount of disgusting fetishes it has in the game is staggering.

Like I said in that other thread, it still gives me nightmares.  Thanks, Hyperguy!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 03, 2007, 12:44:20 PM
The hentai Valis game is offical? Why don't they do this with more games?

Have you seen screenshots of that Valis porn game?  The amount of disgusting fetishes it has in the game is staggering.

No, that's just exploratory freedom.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 04, 2007, 09:15:45 AM
More NiGHTS info here http://wii.ign.com/articles/778/778242p1.html .
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 04, 2007, 04:09:06 PM
Seriously though, your 'since the original already exists, you have nothing to worry about' philosophy is how I approach sequals, remakes, etc of any kind.  :)

Which is why I can live with an adult Valis game existing.
Same here, the hentai Valis game isn't going to alter my opinion on the previous games. I think one important game to me is the original Sonic the Hedgehog game. That game holds special nostalgia to me and is one of my all time favorites. Even though there are a lot of craptastic Sonic games now, it doesn't change my feelings towards the original game one bit. Of course there are times where a sequel can prove to be even better :D (though I am having a hard time thinking of one at the moment, but I assure it's possible!).

Bonk's Revenge.  8)

Tengai Makyou II, Street Fighter II, Mega Man 2, Bomberman '93...
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 04, 2007, 04:44:03 PM
GTA III, Duke Nukem 3-D, Super Smash Bros. Melee...
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 04, 2007, 05:48:32 PM
Seriously though, your 'since the original already exists, you have nothing to worry about' philosophy is how I approach sequals, remakes, etc of any kind.  :)

Which is why I can live with an adult Valis game existing.
Same here, the hentai Valis game isn't going to alter my opinion on the previous games. I think one important game to me is the original Sonic the Hedgehog game. That game holds special nostalgia to me and is one of my all time favorites. Even though there are a lot of craptastic Sonic games now, it doesn't change my feelings towards the original game one bit. Of course there are times where a sequel can prove to be even better :D (though I am having a hard time thinking of one at the moment, but I assure it's possible!).

Bonk's Revenge.  8)

Tengai Makyou II, Street Fighter II, Mega Man 2, Bomberman '93...
Ahh, great examples.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on April 04, 2007, 06:11:07 PM
Here are awesome examples of where the sequels are better than the originals.

-Thunder Force 2 (they just kept getting better and better)
-Revenge of Shinobi (most people prefer it over the original Shinobi)
-Shinobi III (ditto)
-Super Fantasy Zone
-Castlevania 3 (I pretend that part 2 does not exist)
-Super Hang-On
-Virtua Fighter 2
-Super Mario Bros 2 (US version, I do not enjoy the original SMB)
-Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 05, 2007, 11:36:47 AM
Here are awesome examples of where the sequels are better than the originals.

-Thunder Force 2 (they just kept getting better and better)
-Revenge of Shinobi (most people prefer it over the original Shinobi)
-Shinobi III (ditto)
-Super Fantasy Zone
-Castlevania 3 (I pretend that part 2 does not exist)
-Super Hang-On
-Virtua Fighter 2
-Super Mario Bros 2 (US version, I do not enjoy the original SMB)
-Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Have you tried Thunder Force One? I've always wondered if its any good.

Although I can see how most people would consider the sequels to Shinobi to be better than the original, I don't consider them real sequels(to Shinobi One, not each other), since they're so different from original the Rolling Thunder'esque gameplay.

I think you mentioned in another thread that you prefer the first SMS Fantasy Zone to the sequel. But FZ2 is my favorite, although I haven't really tried Super' and haven't played enough of the Game Gear game.

I think Keranu was talking about direct sequels though... which still doesn't change the fact that sometimes developers don't get a game right until they've ripped off millions of 'fans' with a few experiments (I'm still waiting for the first good game from many hit series).

Virtua Fighter 2 is a great example. Its still my favorite VF game.

Wrath of Khan is an easy one, since the original wasn't very good in the first place and there's no 'magic' to try to beat.


GTA III, Duke Nukem 3-D, Super Smash Bros. Melee...

Although Duke Nukem 3D is a better game than the side scrollers, its like comparing Mario Kart to SMB.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 05, 2007, 02:07:28 PM
I think Keranu was talking about direct sequels though... which still doesn't change the fact that sometimes developers don't get a game right until they've ripped off millions of 'fans' with a few experiments (I'm still waiting for the first good game from many hit series).
Yeah I was mostly referring to direct sequels, but it's ok.

GTA III, Duke Nukem 3-D, Super Smash Bros. Melee...

Although Duke Nukem 3D is a better game than the side scrollers, its like comparing Mario Kart to SMB.
[/QUOTE]I gotta disagree, I thought the original run n' gunning Duke Nukem games were good already. 3-D was good too, but like you said, it's not so comparable to the originals.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 05, 2007, 03:16:29 PM
I think Keranu was talking about direct sequels though... which still doesn't change the fact that sometimes developers don't get a game right until they've ripped off millions of 'fans' with a few experiments (I'm still waiting for the first good game from many hit series).
Yeah I was mostly referring to direct sequels, but it's ok.

GTA III, Duke Nukem 3-D, Super Smash Bros. Melee...

Although Duke Nukem 3D is a better game than the side scrollers, its like comparing Mario Kart to SMB.
I gotta disagree, I thought the original run n' gunning Duke Nukem games were good already. 3-D was good too, but like you said, it's not so comparable to the originals.
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From what little I've played and seen others play of the good ole 2D'ers, I don't think they're bad at all. I just think that if I was forced to compare them fun-wise, I'd probably go for '3D.

A proper sequel that could improve on the 2D games, would be cool if it was "Legacy of the Clash at Olympanadu" 'ish.

I'd just say more like NES Rambo, but most people don't get that game and too many people only respond positively if you use one of those retard mash ups of the few 'that type of game' games that we're told are okay to like.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 05, 2007, 04:29:03 PM
All the Dukes had good gameplay, albeit in different styles.

Duke Nukem 3-D though, had personality, humor, great technology for the time, and the most intuitive editor for any FPS ever.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: GUTS on April 06, 2007, 08:22:08 AM
NES Rambo had really good art.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Necromancer on April 06, 2007, 09:09:35 AM
All the Dukes had good gameplay, albeit in different styles.

Duke Nukem 3-D though, had personality, humor, great technology for the time, and the most intuitive editor for any FPS ever.

Duke Nukem's quite entertaining in all his forms.  The much anticipated release date for Duke Nukem Forever has been set..... August 12, 2032.  :^o
Has any other game been f*cked around as much as DNF?  It's been ten years since it was announced, and still no solid info. on where the project is going.  Sadly, I quit caring a few years back and won't buy it unless it's phenomenal (if it actually does get released).  I hope that Sega doesn't pull this type of shit with NiGHTS.  I'd rather see a mediocre sequel than get jerked around for a few years.  <-- Hey look, I found the topic again!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Black Tiger on April 06, 2007, 10:36:17 AM
All the Dukes had good gameplay, albeit in different styles.

Duke Nukem 3-D though, had personality, humor, great technology for the time, and the most intuitive editor for any FPS ever.

Duke Nukem's quite entertaining in all his forms.  The much anticipated release date for Duke Nukem Forever has been set..... August 12, 2032.  :^o
Has any other game been f*cked around as much as DNF?  It's been ten years since it was announced, and still no solid info. on where the project is going.  Sadly, I quit caring a few years back and won't buy it unless it's phenomenal (if it actually does get released).  I hope that Sega doesn't pull this type of shit with NiGHTS.  I'd rather see a mediocre sequel than get jerked around for a few years.  <-- Hey look, I found the topic again!

Tengai Makyou III took a good ten years to get released and was cancelled on at least 3 different consoles.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on April 06, 2007, 01:24:19 PM
The life of a DNF fan:

 :clap:  :D  :) :pray:  ](*,)  :-"  :cry:  :?   :| :x *death*
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Digi.k on April 07, 2007, 08:39:47 AM
ah there are a few tracks of the original nights that have you can download.

The tracks are taken from; Splash Lake, Soft Museum, Stick Canyon, Twin Seeds and Gate of you Dreams..

file size is: 15.81mb and the mp3 length is about 11.30 mins.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6TQYWRPO

And ya its recording from the real hardware stuff

if its temporarilly unavailable might be that too many ppl are downloading it...so try later if you wanna..  :-"
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 23, 2007, 04:19:44 PM
New NiGHTS interview. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=162369&site=ngm)

Though not a whole lot of new info, but it's sounding like a very promising game. Like I mentioned before in my debates, it definitely sounds like this sequel is more towards the NiGHTS fanbase rather than a crappy sellout sequel like for Sonic. The option between the classic controls + new controls sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on April 24, 2007, 08:41:11 AM
New NiGHTS screenshots. (http://www.strategyinformer.com/wii/nightsjourneyofdreams/screenshots.html)
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on December 05, 2007, 04:06:02 PM
Bump! There is an add in the new Nintendo Power this month advertising the upcoming wii Nights  8)
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on December 05, 2007, 04:10:05 PM
According to nightsintodreams.com (the creepiest fansite ever) they are making a remake of the original game for PS2, as a Sega Ages thing. Unfortunately, it's still only for release in Japan, and until that changes, SEGA is still dead to me.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on December 05, 2007, 04:15:22 PM
Ya dude, sega has really screwed us on the ps2 releases. I'm still upset over it. There is a local import store that sells them for $30 and up each. That is a bit much since you know that they would probably be 19.99 if released here. Plus I have to use that bastard slide card  :x
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on December 21, 2007, 12:07:19 PM
bump!  :) Well I was at the local import game store today and I saw the jdm Nights for wii there for $65. I would've grabbed it, but, well, I don't own a wii, haha.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 21, 2007, 12:36:29 PM
Smart move, especially since it is available for $50 in the US right now (and worth much, much less).
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on December 21, 2007, 12:59:33 PM
After seeing the way the kids (and other people) look, I really don't want it at all.

I REALLY REALLY WANT the SEGA AGES PS2 remake, though.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on December 21, 2007, 02:10:41 PM
Why would the way "kids" look effect the game? Are you a big fan of the ground parts of NiGHTS?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Kitsunexus on December 21, 2007, 02:12:46 PM
Why would the way "kids" look effect the game? Are you a big fan of the ground parts of NiGHTS?  :mrgreen:

Nah, it just shows the whole art style as being kinda creepy. Kinda sorta Uncanny Valley.

I don't think the game will play all that well either.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on December 24, 2007, 09:55:06 AM
Well I got the game 'for my kids' lol, so when the little angels open it tomorrow morning (christmas) I will chime in.


Hopefully its faithful to the original, from what I've read from others, it should be an excellent game.

 :D................................................................................. :pray:
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Turbo D on December 24, 2007, 10:01:18 AM
I'm kinda wishing I had a wii now. I was a big nights fan in the saturn days!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on December 24, 2007, 11:17:58 AM
Well I got the game 'for my kids' lol, so when the little angels open it tomorrow morning (christmas) I will chime in.


Hopefully its faithful to the original, from what I've read from others, it should be an excellent game.

 :D................................................................................. :pray:
I have a suspecious feeling that my brother bought it for all of us nerds in the family to play too.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 24, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
Be sure to use the Gamecube controller and not the Wii Remote.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on December 24, 2007, 11:53:49 AM
how 'bout the Wii classic controller?


I personally hate the GCN cantroller!!




get it.... CANTroller......

did ya catch that?


lol, I rule
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on December 24, 2007, 02:49:00 PM
how 'bout the Wii classic controller?


I personally hate the GCN cantroller!!




get it.... CANTroller......

did ya catch that?


lol, I rule
What's wrong with gc controller don't like the button layout or some thing ?

Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 24, 2007, 02:57:12 PM
The button layout on the GC controller is pretty bad, but the analog stick is the best (not the yellow one).
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on December 24, 2007, 03:22:47 PM
I don't like the button layout.  Its odd.

One little period red button next to a GIANT Green one with little lima beans around them?   


Its a terrible pad.  I can get used to it, as I do enjoy many many GC titles.  But the layout was terrible!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: TR0N on December 24, 2007, 03:45:33 PM
I don't like the button layout.  Its odd.

One little period red button next to a GIANT Green one with little lima beans around them?   


Its a terrible pad.  I can get used to it, as I do enjoy many many GC titles.  But the layout was terrible!
I figure as much granted i feel it is too arkward for it's own good.

Still i've gotten use to it pretty much i use (Wavebird) a good deal,on the cube or playing games through the vc with it.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: BonkThis on December 26, 2007, 05:17:10 AM
The button layout on the GC controller is pretty bad, but the analog stick is the best (not the yellow one).

the analog stick rocked, but i always felt the d-pad was patheticly small.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on December 26, 2007, 09:24:43 AM
Playing Nights 2 currently.

Man the graphics are totally weird!

Sometimes it looks like pre-dreamcast graphics and then it looks amazing in game.  I would compare the special effects in game to Panzer Dragoon Orta.

So far got through the first stage, pretty excellent, a little too much storyline for my taste, but the gameplay is VERY faithful to the original.

Josh
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Keranu on December 26, 2007, 02:23:11 PM
Man, everything turboStar said applies to me! My bro bought the game for Christmas, mixed graphics, only played through first level, story line is too damn long and unskippable, and gameplay is very true to the original (I also love how faithful the sound effects and music are, even a lot of the graphics). Look forward to playing more of it as well as Mario Galaxy.
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 26, 2007, 05:50:59 PM
What a fantastic contribution to this thread!  You make every thread worth reading!
Title: Re: NiGHTS sequel coming to Wii!
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 26, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
OMG how insightful!  You are so deep!