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Title: Vol. numbers?
Post by: kenomac78 on April 16, 2007, 02:43:18 AM
So is there a list of the Japanese hucards  by volume number? i notice a few of them have this listing in the upper right corner. but what does it mean? and how many were there?
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: nat on April 16, 2007, 04:59:34 AM
This was Hudson Soft's way of numbering their releases. Games from other gamehouses didn't use them AFAIK.

IE, the first Hudson HuCard was Vol 1, the second vol 2....

Vol 1 was Kung Fu (China Warrior)
Vol 2 was Bikkuriman World (Wonderboy in Monsterland)
etc



Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 16, 2007, 05:11:44 AM
they go up to 61 but never forget, 26 and 48 are missing.

here the whole palette:
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3671/hudsonvolclearlw6.jpg)
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: shubibiman on April 16, 2007, 08:25:13 AM
What a magnificent picture.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: gundarN on April 16, 2007, 08:38:13 AM
What's the last one?
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Necromancer on April 16, 2007, 08:52:28 AM
No. 61 is Bomberman '94.  The bottom right game in the pic is Necromancer.  :)
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Keranu on April 16, 2007, 09:25:49 AM
Awesome picture, Tatsujin! Thanks!
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Turbo D on April 16, 2007, 02:22:51 PM
ya, thanx for the picture dude  :D
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 16, 2007, 06:10:46 PM
sorry for the mess up with the necromancer on that picture, which should be placed on the 6th place from left on the top corner directly after victory run, in chronolocial order :-#
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: kenomac78 on April 16, 2007, 06:16:21 PM
very cool! so they only released 61 hu card games? thats really not alot. so i guess it was one a month for 61 months? so if the first month was october 1987 (or november??) then 61 would be at the end of 1992, but it cant be if its bomberman 94.  confusing ne? 

maybe it was just every time the released a new hucard and skipped a few months.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 16, 2007, 06:18:22 PM
61 - 2 = 59  :wink:

btw. aoi blink was also a Hudson work, but never was merged into the vol. line-up.

those are only the hucard releases from hudson, but since 1988 when the cd-rom was released, a lot of games where also released on that media.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on April 16, 2007, 06:46:16 PM
Why are there 2 missing?  Games that never got published??
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 16, 2007, 07:03:10 PM
in fact yes. i was looking for those two missing numbers and the reason for not being exist for years, until i got an answer on a japanese PC Engine BBS, where someone told me, that the numbers usualy were give away to a project before it even was finished to publish. so when a title was canceled also the vol. number died with it. but never could figure out, which titles those were. may be someone in here knows an answer on that.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: elnino on April 17, 2007, 12:24:11 AM
Hudson Vol. Countdown 52/59 (7 to go)
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: kenomac78 on April 17, 2007, 03:11:42 AM
so it must be like atari's CX2600  number designations in a way.  so can it be speculated that vol 62 may have been  in production?

so if  bomberman 94 as the last hudson  hucard, was it the last hucard made period?
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: nat on April 17, 2007, 04:37:09 AM
very cool! so they only released 61 hu card games? thats really not alot. so i guess it was one a month for 61 months? so if the first month was october 1987 (or november??) then 61 would be at the end of 1992, but it cant be if its bomberman 94.  confusing ne? 

maybe it was just every time the released a new hucard and skipped a few months.

HUDSON only released 61 HuCard games.

There are way more than 61 HuCard games, though, many released by other publishers.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: kenomac78 on April 17, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
i know thatmany companies made card  games. thats why i said 'they' meaning hudson
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: akamichi on April 18, 2007, 12:25:06 AM
Need that pic as a full size poster. :D
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Kaminari on April 21, 2007, 05:40:09 AM
26 is certainly Aoi Blink. 48 was probably the Ten no Koe Bank.

The release dates of both titles roughly coincide with the "missing" numbers.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 21, 2007, 04:32:29 PM
this was also one of my earliest thoughts back in time, but i'm certainly sure that aoi blink was never be supposed to be a hudson vol.
about the ten no koe bank i'm not sure, resp. can't deny it, since i never heard or read something concerning that. but why a piece of hardware add-on should be numbered and put in the reg. softlineup?
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: nat on April 21, 2007, 07:02:46 PM
If Aoi Blink was a Hudson game, why was it not intended to be part of the game lineup?

For the record, I know nothing about "Aoi Blink" so forgive me if there is a super-obvious reason I'm blissfully ignorant of.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 21, 2007, 07:14:02 PM
hmm..may be it's a little bit difficult to explain as well to understand. but for aoi blink, hudson soft just did the work for (executive), while NHK Enterprise, the holder of the license of the original anime-serie by tezuka osamu, was the publisher of it. similar to many compile shmups, which where developed by them, but puplished by others and in some cases not even credited.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: nat on April 21, 2007, 07:31:13 PM
OK, that makes sense, but by that rule games like Gunhed shouldn't be numbered either, right?

And what about Bonk (PC Genjin)? Wasn't Bonk done by RED and just published by Hudson Soft?

And R-Type? You know, with R-Type it's funny. Hudson is credited on the dual-HuCard release, but there is no mention of Hudson having anything to do with the CD version. They aren't even listed as a publisher for the CD version. Either way, Irem holds the license, so those shouldn't be numbered either.

Oh, well, it'll probably never make sense anyway.
Title: Re: Vol. numbers?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 21, 2007, 07:40:54 PM
it's always the question of who is the publisher/purchaser. in the case of gunhed it was hudson as well for any RED titles. hudson had many game developers under contract which made the main part for each of their games.

in case of r-type i'm quite not sure, but as i always understood, hudson programmed the hucard version, while irem take over them later, added some cut-scenes and puplished it under their own label again as the complete cd. seems to be complicated since we have no insight in all the contract and license stuff behind each game with all its agreements and rights. may someone here knows more about to tell :)