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Title: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: TR0N on May 16, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
Granted foxnews isn't news worthy to begin with but still.
 This report  :lol: :lol:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272440,00.html
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: nat on May 16, 2007, 04:42:24 PM
Playstation 2: Sony's Revenge.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Kitsunexus on May 16, 2007, 04:48:36 PM
Yeah this was on Gizmodo earlier, we're all calling bullshit.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: nodtveidt on May 16, 2007, 05:03:03 PM
It's a bogus story, it never actually happened. Besides, a story of such magnitude would have made it to CNN or at least the AP, and neither have any such story.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Tatsujin on May 16, 2007, 05:31:08 PM
just a further victim of darwin's law. for god sake they using 110V instead of 230 (i believe) :lol:
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: FM-77 on May 17, 2007, 02:13:33 AM
What an idiot. If it really happened. Otherwise, still an idiot. For making it up.
just a further victim of darwin's law. for god sake they using 110V instead of 230 (i believe) :lol:

That doesn't make a difference. It's not the voltage rate that's of significance.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Ninja Spirit on May 17, 2007, 02:27:39 AM
Devil: "So you whizzed on the Playstation 2 didn't you"?"

Don't whiz on the Playstation 2!
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Kitsunexus on May 17, 2007, 02:34:00 AM
Volts jolt, amps kill. I still seriously doubt that the PS2 has enough power to kill.



Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: offsidewing on May 17, 2007, 02:59:41 AM
I thought it was AC dies and DC lies? 

Oh wait, that's on instrument clusters.  My bad.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: FM-77 on May 17, 2007, 03:59:19 AM
Volts jolt, amps kill. I still seriously doubt that the PS2 has enough power to kill.

The internal PSU can potentially do it (assuming it was a large PS2 model). I've been shocked by the outlet once though, and it didn't kill me! :wink:
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Tatsujin on May 17, 2007, 04:20:23 AM
What an idiot. If it really happened. Otherwise, still an idiot. For making it up.
just a further victim of darwin's law. for god sake they using 110V instead of 230 (i believe) :lol:

That doesn't make a difference. It's not the voltage rate that's of significance.
sorry dude. but voltages and resistor produces the flowing current. if you double the voltage, the current will be double as well if the resistor keeps the same.. :-"
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on May 17, 2007, 09:55:05 AM
This man deserves a Purple Heart for his valor in fighting the Sony Empire.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Bonknuts on May 17, 2007, 01:42:47 PM

 Haha! He punched the lady that was trying to revive him :mrgreen: That's great.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: nodtveidt on May 17, 2007, 02:32:21 PM
The amperage is definitely more important than the voltage in terms of lethality. 50000V at 0.001mA will shock the hell out of you but it won't hurt you beyond maybe a skin lesion (think of a taser...that's what they are, extremely high voltage but extremely low amperage). 50V at 2A will stop your heart and, depending on the point of entry, can cause permanent damage to the nervous system and/or brain. 110V at 150mA will kill you within minutes...it will cause ventricular fibrillation, which is lethal if not treated immediately, and with that much voltage, traveling to the heart is an insignificant matter. 50V at 150mA can also do this. This is very basic electrical knowledge that anyone who wants to get into it should know, and stuff that DeVry students generally learn on the very first day of class. :)
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Tatsujin on May 17, 2007, 03:54:53 PM
but as i explained, the amperage is the result (product) of voltage and resistor (also very very basic > Ohm's Law).

the serial resistor is given by the human body itself, the electric condutance of his piss as well as body to earth condutance. that's the way where the current will flow throu, after his urin once meets the main supply of the PS2.

therefore:

-Serial Resistor = fix given (unaltered)
-Voltage = variable
-Current = depends on the Voltage

example 1 (would happen in the US): serial resistor R = 10K, Voltage U = 110V

I = U/R = 0.011Ampere

example 2 (would happen in the europ): serial resistor R = 10K, Voltage U = 230V

I = U/R = 0.023Ampere

so which hurts the more?

Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: nodtveidt on May 17, 2007, 04:06:08 PM
Obviously #2 is going to be more damaging, as it's both higher voltage and higher amperage. But in regards to lethality, the voltage isn't nearly as important as the amperage.

It's unlikely that electrons would even go through the guy's urine anyways. Once the circuit is shorted, the electrons are going to move along the path of least resistance in the most efficient way possible. Making such a huge trip is neither efficient or the path of least resistance. Urinating on an electric fence is a different story...
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Tatsujin on May 17, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
It's unlikely that electrons would even go through the guy's urine anyways. Once the circuit is shorted, the electrons are going to move along the path of least resistance in the most efficient way possible. Making such a huge trip is neither efficient or the path of least resistance. Urinating on an electric fence is a different story...
but the current had to go throug, otherwise he wouldn't felt anything. if he was in the bad luck, that the urine didn't conduct between phase and neutral/earth, then he got the whole shock throug its urine, since it would be the only way to go.


but anyway. all i want to explain is, that without voltage there is no amperage. therefore the voltage (as well the resistor) is the only and one relevant factor (beside of the max. outputpower of the main supply, which will limit the current anyway somewhere in the higher ampere range).
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: esteban on May 17, 2007, 04:43:03 PM
Watt are you folks talking about? Seriously, watts up?
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: FM-77 on May 17, 2007, 10:42:51 PM
:) :P
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: nodtveidt on May 17, 2007, 11:54:56 PM
Watt are you folks talking about? Seriously, watts up?
Okay...that was just bad...I'm talking Keranu-style cheese. :dance:
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Kitsunexus on May 18, 2007, 02:43:43 AM
And what also strikes me as odd is the fact that they DIDN'T GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO RIP THE COVER OFF THE PS2. They left it on and (if the story would have happened as reported) a little urine dribbled down into the AC.

This most likel would not have shocked him.


God, I'm trying to DISPROVE A FOX NEWS STORY... ¬_¬  ](*,) I swear, Im just going to filter my internet to block anything that pantheon of idiots decides to pass off as news.
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Keranu on May 18, 2007, 04:44:25 PM
Watt are you folks talking about? Seriously, watts up?
Okay...that was just bad...I'm talking Keranu-style cheese. :dance:

 :mrgreen:

Excellent job, Steve!
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: esteban on May 19, 2007, 05:26:35 AM
Watt are you folks talking about? Seriously, watts up?
Okay...that was just bad...I'm talking Keranu-style cheese. :dance:

 :mrgreen:

Excellent job, Steve!
My apologies to nod, I should know better, but I couldn't resist. Sad, really. :)
Title: Re: Man Is Electrocuted Afther Urinating on a Playstation 2
Post by: Dark Fact on May 31, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
Must've been a first edition model... :|