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Title: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: SNKNostalgia on June 24, 2007, 11:50:59 AM
Every single time I try to win anything turbo related on E-bay, some rich bastard that much rather win an auction than lose pays around 2 times more than what it goes for. They beat my ass everytime. I have been trying to get some specific turbo chips that arn't worth anymore than $10 each and they sell for like $20 each in a damn bundle pack. So one of the auction's end at like $50 for like 3 games or something. These guys are paying Bullseye-games or Sherif-frog powerseller prices for these games. I think they are major contributors for such a jack up on games now. None of these games I try to buy are rare. You see them sell every week. Sorry, this is just really getting me pissed.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: FM-77 on June 24, 2007, 12:02:40 PM
Since some dood is paying that much all the time, I suppose the price has increased for that particular game. Pay the 20 dollars.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: Turbo D on June 24, 2007, 12:52:50 PM
I feel your pain man, I'm always losing auctions to rich people  :x
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: runinruder on June 24, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
Buy the Japanese versions instead.  There are plenty of good places on the net where you can buy PC Engine games without having to "bid" against anyone else, and the JP games are often cheaper than the US versions. 
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: SNKNostalgia on June 24, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
Any sites with good selections on PCE titles? Good timming on my part. I just now sent off my US Duo to grahf for the S-video and region mod.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: TR0N on June 24, 2007, 03:02:06 PM
Buy the Japanese versions instead.  There are plenty of good places on the net where you can buy PC Engine games without having to "bid" against anyone else, and the JP games are often cheaper than the US versions. 

Agreed that's the best thing you can do there SNKNostalgia.

Or if you want those u.s games still just bid for the common titles.

Beside any thing like Bonk III,Magicial Chase and Dynastic Hero is gonna cost ya alot.

About the only other thing i can recomend is to bid snipe, wich has work for me any time i wanna avoid a bid war.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: TR0N on June 24, 2007, 03:05:04 PM
Any sites with good selections on PCE titles? Good timming on my part. I just now sent off my US Duo to grahf for the S-video and region mod.

http://www.japangamestock.com (http://www.japangamestock.com/)
http://www.mailorderjapan.com (http://www.mailorderjapan.com/)
Keep in mind for, Mailorderjapan you to have e-mail them to see if they have it or not.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: runinruder on June 24, 2007, 03:17:05 PM
Yeah, JapanGameStock is one of the best sites around.  I've ordered from them a few times now, and I've never had any problems.  They offer some great prices, too. 

Matt at www.wolfgames.com (http://www.wolfgames.com/) is one of the most reliable guys in the business.  I've been buying stuff from him for years.   

thewestexit used to run another wonderful site for import games.  He still posts FS lists on these boards from time to time. 

And DREAM STARS JAPAN is a good eBay store with lots of PCE games.   
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: Keranu on June 24, 2007, 09:52:59 PM
JapanGameStock is awesome, I've dealt with them a couple times and have had a great experience.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: kenomac78 on June 25, 2007, 02:20:43 AM
i agree! there are some people on ebay who keep buying up everything!  once i buy my ONE copy, that is it, i dont need to keep buying every copy of everygame ever made. considering that people like, oh i dont know,mydogsrule, just seems to want to own 10 billion games it raises the prices on the rest of us! what does this guy do for a job? did he win the lottery or something??


i wonder if we would just send emails to some of thee people begging that we are simply collectors who want to collect and just leave this aucion alone for once. would that even work?
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: jimid2 on June 25, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
i wonder if we would just send emails to some of thee people begging that we are simply collectors who want to collect and just leave this aucion alone for once. would that even work?

Who knows... Probably not - I suspect that a lot of these are the buyer ID for some of the big Ebay sellers....

I think that patience helps - and then there's always the strategy of buying bunches of games with HARDWARE that someone's moving, then selling off the rest. If you can pick up a TG16 with 9 games including Air Zonk for $75 - $100, then selling off the system and individual games will net you Zonk + $$$... but that's a lot of work...
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: SNKNostalgia on June 25, 2007, 02:18:06 PM
That is something I have been sort of doing now. I bid on some system lot w/games sales and then will just sell off the other games and system for a low price. Unlike the other people that like to buy everything up and sell realy high, I just want some of my money back to even out the price for keeping the games I want.

Do not sell to EastCoastGamer, he is the sole reason why Dracula X for the SNES for example was impossible to obtain for the whole year of 2005. He was buying it for up to $60 even if it was loose with a rental sticker on it and then he would win a complete copy for $50. It makes no damn sense. I saw a video game powerseller that is selling Fatal Fury Real Bout Special US Neo Geo CD with a crack in the case for $99. What dumb ass, do these people really expect to sell shit like that. That game is worth no more than $35 in good condition. $40 if mint maybe.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: MrFulci on June 25, 2007, 03:33:10 PM
SNKNostalgia,

I've bid and won lots in the past. It can work out pretty well, though it takes a bit of research to see what the prices are for the items you plan to resell.

I've only purchased 2 large TG-16 lots, to keep what I want and resell the rest.  It worked out alright. One time I managed to get games and stuff for free, the other I ended up paying for the games, though it was cheaper than purchasing seperate. I didn't lsit the games with BIN's, I set them for 0.99 and let them sell for whatever they raked in.

Funny thing was, 2-3 years ago I was bidding on a TG16 lot, that had terraforming, Bonk 3 CD, and a few other hard to find CD games.. The person who jacked up my bid, towards the higher end of my max (He almost won the lot) had SNK, or Neo Geo in his ebay handle. He actually sent me an e-mail after I won the auction, with something to the effect of, "I wanted that auction, but lost. hahahahhaa, but i sure made you pay for it." This thread reminded me of that... The one and only time I received a message from someone who had been bidding on an auction i won.

Some of the folks buying multiple copies of certain titles are almost certainly buying for stores, whether on or off ebay. Sometimes it also seems as though a person is trying to protect their investment, or "corner the market".

My suggestions; bid your highest bid and "walk away" from the auction, snipe, or look for BIN. Those 3 tend to work for me. You can also set Ebay to e-mail you when something appears for sale within a set search criteria, you may snag some nice BIN that way!
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: nat on June 25, 2007, 03:40:30 PM

My suggestions; bid your highest bid and "walk away" from the auction, snipe, or look for BIN. Those 3 tend to work for me. You can also set Ebay to e-mail you when something appears for sale within a set search criteria, you may snag some nice BIN that way!

Agreed.

The method I most commonly use is to tag an auction I'm interested in and revisit it during it's final minutes. If it hasn't reached an absurd amount, I'll snipe it during the last 30 seconds. If someone outbids me, it's fate. If I win, sweet. Before I snipe I'll pick an amount I'm not willing to go over and that'll be my bid.

Less often I'll bid my max right away and do the "walk away" thing.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: Turbo D on June 25, 2007, 05:39:06 PM
I was going to snipe an auction tonight, but I forgot when the auction was ending and failed  :x
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: nodtveidt on June 26, 2007, 12:56:45 AM
I only ever just bid my highest bid and then walk away. I'm not about to pay a ridiculous price, some other sucker can take the fall. Although I must admit that I did one time...I paid a little over $80 for a copy of Exile and a TurboStick.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: jimid2 on June 26, 2007, 01:49:51 AM
What really PO's me about Ebay is when some seller tries to stick it to me with absurd shipping charges. Case in point: I won an auction for a Turbo Extension Cable for $9.99 a couple days ago, but when I get the bill from the seller, he's tacked on $16.84 shipping! I live in Canada, not the South Pole! There's no way in Hell that it costs anything even remotely like that to ship a bit of wire to me... I can drive to Rochester NY in an hour, and it probably costs $2.50 to ship it there...

Of course, it's not entirely the sellers who are at fault right now (despite an apparent lack of common sense) - the USPS on-line estimate system is generating INSANE estimates for shipping costs to Canada. This is really whacked, because we're the United States' largest trading partner... Why the United States Postal Service thinks it's appropriate to quote $17US in shipping for a package that is the size of a toothpaste box and weighs all of 6oz. is a mystery to me...  :roll:
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: termis on June 26, 2007, 04:46:25 AM
I only ever just bid my highest bid and then walk away. I'm not about to pay a ridiculous price, some other sucker can take the fall.

I do the same.  I sniped once or twice in my younger years, but now, I learned that if I really put in a "fair" amount for a maximum bid and walk away, it's highly unlikely that a sniper will take the auction away from me (In fact, it's NEVER happened to me yet).  Snipers only seem to try their hand at it if the auction is only quite below fair market value.

What really PO's me about Ebay is when some seller tries to stick it to me with absurd shipping charges. Case in point: I won an auction for a Turbo Extension Cable for $9.99 a couple days ago, but when I get the bill from the seller, he's tacked on $16.84 shipping! I live in Canada, not the South Pole!

Yeah, I friggin hate that crap too!  And I ranted about this on another thread before, but what's even worse is that those goddamn couriers charge you for "brokerage fees".  It's already a slap in the face that you have to pay these at all, but when you pay a $20 fee for a $1.50 duty on a $25 item, after you paid another $20 for shipping, you just wanna scream - ugh!
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: Necromancer on June 26, 2007, 05:12:42 AM
What really PO's me about Ebay is when some seller tries to stick it to me with absurd shipping charges. Case in point: I won an auction for a Turbo Extension Cable for $9.99 a couple days ago, but when I get the bill from the seller, he's tacked on $16.84 shipping! I live in Canada, not the South Pole! There's no way in Hell that it costs anything even remotely like that to ship a bit of wire to me... I can drive to Rochester NY in an hour, and it probably costs $2.50 to ship it there...

Of course, it's not entirely the sellers who are at fault right now (despite an apparent lack of common sense) - the USPS on-line estimate system is generating INSANE estimates for shipping costs to Canada. This is really whacked, because we're the United States' largest trading partner... Why the United States Postal Service thinks it's appropriate to quote $17US in shipping for a package that is the size of a toothpaste box and weighs all of 6oz. is a mystery to me...  :roll:

I too hate ebay asshats with screwy S&H charges, but the USPS can be much cheaper than $17 for the package you mention.  First Class postage would be only $2.24 plus insurance and return receipt (if requested).  You could also be charged an extra $0.17 if it's 'nonmachinable', whatever the hell that means.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: Black Tiger on June 26, 2007, 08:19:04 AM
JapanGameStock is awesome, I've dealt with them a couple times and have had a great experience.

I bought Ys III Famicom from them. It sucks that they don't use PayPal and it took about a week to complete the transaction because of their slow response multi-step transaction process.

But they're a good place to look for hard to find items. Not the best place for deals on cheap stuff though.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: SNKNostalgia on June 26, 2007, 09:18:47 AM
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I too hate ebay asshats with screwy S&H charges, but the USPS can be much cheaper than $17 for the package you mention.  First Class postage would be only $2.24 plus insurance and return receipt (if requested).  You could also be charged an extra $0.17 if it's 'nonmachinable', whatever the hell that means.

See, that is why I try to buy the game lots instead of individual games. The shipping in the US Turbo games could either be $3.00 for 1 game or a stupid price like $7.00 or even $9.00 sometimes which, is beyond me. Some of these guys either are using the wrong sized boxes, wrong shipping estimates since they don't have a scale or they are trying to make an extra $3.00 or so. I had one guy charge me $12 shipping for a Neo Geo cart once and the price sticker on the box said $7.00 no insurance or anything. I was a little pissed and just let it slide since I got what I wanted and didn't want to fool with any of it. It just gets retarded when you pay like $10.00 for a game and pay $6.00 in shipping sometimes.

I am also one of those guys that if I win a complete mint copy of Ninja Gaiden 1 NES for $0.99, I will give the guy atleast $10.00. He really appreciated it. I knew he needed the money for his auctions, so I helped him out.
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: jimid2 on June 27, 2007, 06:51:42 AM
I am also one of those guys that if I win a complete mint copy of Ninja Gaiden 1 NES for $0.99, I will give the guy atleast $10.00. He really appreciated it. I knew he needed the money for his auctions, so I helped him out.
Ya, I'll do that... I won an original Gameboy with Tetris for $3.50 the other day - I gave the guy a 10 spot and picked the game up to save him the bother of shipping it...
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: kenomac78 on June 28, 2007, 11:48:58 PM
you guys are some charitale people,  i would do the same but  never won something so cheap like that before. i hope you guys are still that giving. the last turbo game i need to buy before i am done forever is up and i just hope im not sniped out  :-({|=  because i would like to finish my collecting, and continue playing  but not have to worry about anymore ebaying  :pray:
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: nat on June 29, 2007, 09:51:30 AM
What game is that?
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: kenomac78 on June 29, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
starts with T   :-"
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: nat on June 29, 2007, 01:38:45 PM
Toilet Kids?
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: Turbo D on June 29, 2007, 06:22:32 PM
its terraforming
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: kenomac78 on June 29, 2007, 06:37:51 PM
i just cant jinx it is all, next week ill breathe and can celebrate. i hope
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: runinruder on June 29, 2007, 06:40:27 PM
Watch it be TV Sports Hockey or something.   :wink:

"THANK GOODNESS I WON!  WHAT A CLOSE CALL!" 
Title: Re: Arghhhh, stupid E-bay....
Post by: kenomac78 on June 30, 2007, 04:24:09 AM
well so much for that! what sucks is the guy offered to sell them to me outside of ebay. accepted my offer of 125 but then said no...