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Title: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on July 07, 2007, 07:17:35 PM
In the early 90's, when I was a small child. I thought this game was THE SHIT. First time I played it was when my older brother rented the Genesis version, and I f*cking loved it. The digitized graphics, the music, the voices, everything. It was fun to play back in 1992/93, and it's still fun to play to this day. Without it, we wouldn't have games like Time Crisis or Virtua Cop or any of those. The game is set in modern day Chicago. You're a newly recruited police officer, and you're objective is simple:Clean up the town from the scum that terrorize it. There's 5 stages starting with foiling a simple bank robbery, followed by stopping an assault on Chinatown by a gang of assassins, then a hijack at the airport, a drug deal at the harbor, and then a showdown at the chemical plant. There's also these shooting practice stages every now and then. There's 6 different ranks in the game. You start off as a Patrolman, and you work your way up to Detective, Sergeant, Captain, Lieutenant, and if you do REALLY good, Commander. But don't shoot any civilians, because you'll get dropped a rank if you do. I have the game for the Super Nintendo, Sega CD, and I recently bought the Deluxe Pack for the PlayStation One. The SNES, Genesis and Sega CD games came with a blue light gun called "The Justifier", and it kicks ass. I feel like a total badass every time I play with The Justifier. Anyway, when it comes to non-arcade versions, I'd say the SNES one is superior in more ways than one. The graphics obviously look better, the music sounds just like it does in the arcade, you get to pick where you want to go first, like in the arcade version, and if you accidentally shoot a civilian, you don't have to replay the level again. This version also has some censorship, like when you kill enemies, they don't fall back or anything, they just stay in the same pose, and when you get shot or stabbed, what's supposed to be blood is white, so it looks like the bullets or knives hit glass or something. Also, Stage 2:Chinatown Assault was renamed "Downtown Assault". It's also called that in the japanese version of this port. And Stage 4:The Drug Deal is called "Gun Runners". But really, you're not gonna let a little censorship stop you now, are you? The Genesis is more violent than the SNES game, but the graphics look like shit, you can't pick what level you want to go to first, if you accidentally shoot ONE civilian, you have to re-do the level ALL OVER AGAIN, and that sucks. Plus the music sounds like crap. The Sega CD version is the same exact thing, only the music sounds different, and better. I wonder if the Kukeiha Club did the music for this version of the game. It's not the same as the music in the original arcade version, which was done by Junya Nakano, who now works for Square Soft. The music in the Sega CD version is completely re-arranged. So if you'd rather play the game on a Sega console, play the Sega CD one, and pass on the Genesis cart.

Bottom Line:Lethal Enforcers is one of the most important games in Konami's long history, and one of the greatest games of all time. Unfortunately, there weren't any other SNES games that used The Justifier, and the only other Sega titles that it was compatible with were "Lethal Enforcers II - Gun Fighters", and the shooting sequences in the swan song of Hideo Kojima's entire career:Snatcher.

Fun little trivia about the game:Two villians in the game were played by two people who actually work for Konami: Masanori "Masa" Otani, and Kazuhiro "David" Ueda. Otani plays the guys in the purple suits from "Chinatown Assault" (that's what his "Shoot me in Lethal Enforcers message he leaves on his Alpha One profile in Snatcher is referring to), and Ueda plays the boss of Chinatown Assault. That's probably why he's referred to as Mr. Ueda when he shows up in Snatcher.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: FM-77 on July 08, 2007, 01:52:07 AM
I've had fun with Lethal Enforcers 2 for Mega-CD. Surprisingly good game despite its shortcomings.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: Tatsujin on July 08, 2007, 01:26:50 PM
play namcos gun bullet, gun barl etc. those are real fun!!
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: Kitsunexus on July 11, 2007, 05:49:50 AM
Yeah, I <3 the SNES Lethal Enforcers.

play namcos gun bullet, gun barl etc. those are real fun!!

Point Blank was always a little too cartoony for me.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: offsidewing on July 11, 2007, 05:51:29 AM
Yeah, I <3 the SNES Lethal Enforcers.

play namcos gun bullet, gun barl etc. those are real fun!!

Point Blank was always a little too cartoony for me.

Point Blank was pretty sweet.  Not to mention all the different styles of compatible guns.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: nodtveidt on July 11, 2007, 07:35:35 AM
I played Lethal Enforcers for the first time ever yesterday. I used to see it played in the arcades a lot but never tried it myself...looked to be too much of a quarter-muncher. So I got the MAME rom instead. Pretty fun methinks, but probably a bit easier in the arcade. The final boss is a real douchebag though, it's hard to tell where to hit it. At the end of the game, I had the rank of Captain.

Honestly, even though LE was pretty fun, I enjoyed Terminator 2 quite a bit better, but that's not to say that LE is a bad game, because it isn't. It was pretty cool. :clap:
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: Hobo Xiphas on July 12, 2007, 11:04:02 AM
Wait a sec, Lethal Enforcers is set in Chicago?  Well, Konami did no research then, as it doesn't resemble Chicago at all.  :?

The thing I hate about Lethal Enforcers is that if you are a spaz who likes to kill innocents, then you will never get past the first level.

Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: nodtveidt on July 12, 2007, 04:15:27 PM
The thing I hate about Lethal Enforcers is that if you are a spaz who likes to kill innocents, then you will never get past the first level.
If you are a spaz who likes to kill innocents, then you need to check yourself into a mental institution anyways...
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: Kitsunexus on July 12, 2007, 04:21:15 PM
The thing I hate about Lethal Enforcers is that if you are a spaz who likes to kill innocents, then you will never get past the first level.
If you are a spaz who likes to kill innocents, then you need to check yourself into a mental institution anyways...

Oh yeah, because we ONLY play the MISSIONS in GTA... ¬_¬
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on July 31, 2007, 05:20:26 PM
Wait a sec, Lethal Enforcers is set in Chicago?  Well, Konami did no research then, as it doesn't resemble Chicago at all.  :?

The thing I hate about Lethal Enforcers is that if you are a spaz who likes to kill innocents, then you will never get past the first level.



You obviously have only played one or both of the Sega ports, because you don't repeat a level from accidentally killing civilians in the arcade, SNES and PSOne.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: SignOfZeta on August 01, 2007, 12:25:25 AM
Quote from: MotoRoaderMike
Without it, we wouldn't have games like Time Crisis or Virtua Cop or any of those.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on August 01, 2007, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: MotoRoaderMike
Without it, we wouldn't have games like Time Crisis or Virtua Cop or any of those.

Yeah, I seriously doubt that.

Oh really? How so?
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: SignOfZeta on August 01, 2007, 01:19:18 PM
Lethal Enforcers wasn't exactly the first gun game. It broke no ground. Just a speed bump on the way to Oh Bakyuun, and the Point Blank series, (along with Police trainer, these are the best ever gun games, IMO). Arcade gun games existed even before microprocessors, early ones were mechanical. Nintendo ran light gun galleries in Japan back in the day.

I'm not shit talking the game, I'm just saying that nothing owes anything to Lethal Enforcers that I can see.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: GUTS on August 02, 2007, 12:39:27 PM
I'd have to agree with Zeta, there were other more influential light gun games before Lethal Enforcers like Terminator 2, Operation Wolf, etc.  Lethal Enforcers was ok, but Sega immediately rendered it obsolete a year later with Alien 3, then another year later with Virtua Cop, neither of which owe anything to Lethal Enforcers.
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: Keranu on August 02, 2007, 04:11:19 PM
Personally I like to think that any small change in history can make big changes in the future, but I really don't know about Lethal Enforcers. Of course I think we can all agree that we wouldn't be playing any of these games without the brilliant mind of Ralph Baer :) .
Title: Re: Lethal Enforcers
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on August 09, 2007, 07:28:13 PM
Who's he again?