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NEC PC-Engine/SuperGrafx => PC Engine/SuperGrafx Discussion => Topic started by: wilsonw111 on September 05, 2007, 04:42:49 AM
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ok,, guys, I've never heard anyone talking about the PC Engine Shuttle... What is it... what's the dif with the other consoles ?? I gotta say it's the worse looking one
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The Shuttle is the simplified, marketed to children version of the PC Engine. It didn't have the expansion port, and was therefore incompatible with any of the CD attachments.
I don't know, I think it's kind of neat looking. I don't think I'd ever pick one up, but its a look more pleasing to look at than the Supergrafx.
*ducks*
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hahah talking about Super Grafx,, picked up one 1 day ago,, and I'm just in love with it..haha, 15 year old machine.. =)
The Shuttle is the simplified, marketed to children version of the PC Engine. It didn't have the expansion port, and was therefore incompatible with any of the CD attachments.
I don't know, I think it's kind of neat looking. I don't think I'd ever pick one up, but its a look more pleasing to look at than the Supergrafx.
*ducks*
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SpaceRunaway pretty well explained it, but I'll add that its batwing controller looks cool. I haven't used one though, so I can't say if it's comfortable to hold.
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What I really hate about the shuttle is its length. Its about twice the size of a normal PC-Engine/Core Grapfx. Why NEC? WHY??
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Because bigger is always better (just ask the ladies).
Good question though, and why the heck did they remove part of the expansion bus? Pretty dumb idea to discourage people from buying accessories.
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I'm pretty sure it has some sort of expansion, just an odd shaped one that didn't connect to any cd peripherals. I do know that there is some sort of av booster or tenokoe for it out there.
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The Shuttle is awesome looking. I would buy one in a second.
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I would have bought one if it has a CD port. What a shame. I love the design. ](*,)
I'd stick with either a Core Grafx, Super Grafx, or a Duo.
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I think NEC had no idea what they were doing with the PC-Engine line. They obviously thought they should be like Toyota and release several different models of the PCE at different price ranges, but rather than give people "choices" like in a car, it confused them and diluted the PCE's strength and presence in the market.
They were similarly stupid in America, releasing the Turbo at almost exactly the same price as the PCE was released at in Japan, including the overpriced accessories like the Backup Booster / TurboBooster Plus or Multitap. This might have been fine in bubble-economy reefer madness Japan, but did not translate well to price-conscious America.
Poor Hudson, having to contractually fawn over the hardware convolutions that NEC blundered up. As always in this type of discussion, I'm happy to point out the PCE 'scene's reaction to the SGX, Shuttle, etc:
http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/sgxreactions.html :-k
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http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/sgxreactions.html :-k
Great page, Chris.
Somehow I'd missed that one in the past.
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Some people to have a SERIOUS hate for the Shuttle's design and I never understood why! I think it looks awesome as all hell.
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The Shuttle is awesome, especially the tinted hatch you open to insert a HuCard. 8)
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The Shuttle is awesome, especially the tinted hatch you open to insert a HuCard. 8)
Yes! The tinted hatch is my favorite part! 8) 8) 8)
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Thanks for that link, Chris, it's really interesting!
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Thanks, it was a small addendum to the larger page about the early Super Famicom announcement:
http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/secrets11.html
Check out that page and compare the software publishers' reactions to the SFC versus the SuperGrafx. [-(
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Now its hard to see what the point was of the Shuttle, but if you look at the original retail prices of PC Engine systems, it all makes sense. Released two years before the down-priced Core Grafx II, the Shuttle cost 18800 yen, where as the Core Grafx was 24800 yen. The Shuttle was for gamers that would never eventually buy the extremely expensive CD add-on. Since they wouldn't be using that functionality, they weren't go to pay for it either so the price was lowered by about $50 USD, and the functions disabled. Then system was modified to look like stand-alone device, rather than a chunk of something (the original PC Engines).
This sort of thing is done all the time with, say, multi-core CPUs. Several of the cores will be disabled on the budget ones because making an entirely different chip for them would actually bring the price up, not down.
This happens with automobiles all the time with accessory and powertrain packages also.
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I didn't know that they did that with cpus :-k those bastards! :x
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Would you rather that they didn't, raising the cost of all the CPUs in the range?
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I'd rather them sell all the cpus for cheap since they can obviously afford to. But I must be realistic and agree with you :(
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Thanks again Chris for your links. It's good to see pc engine fans doing so many things for the community. I salute you for all your work :clap:
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The Shuttle is awesome looking. I would buy one in a second.
Yeah, the novelty of the design is really the fun part. I mean, come on, who can't appreciate a totally wacky item like the PC Shuttle? It's much more fun than a CoreGrafx IV, which would have been practically indistinguishable from its predecessors (well, the "CoreGrafx IV" logo would be printed in green and purple, but otherwise...)
Aside: I have to go to a party right now, dammit, but I can't wait to read the page that Mr. C made! I don't remember seeing it before.
Trivia: Apparently, there was a Battery Backup peripheral made for the Shuttle. I was surprised to see it at ncsx.com a few weeks ago (there is a thread here about it). If I had the extra $$$, I would have picked one up.