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Title: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: spenoza on September 19, 2007, 12:10:22 PM
Subject says it all. Has anyone come across a comparison that looks at, say, graphics and music and such for Bomberman '94 on both these platforms?
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Black Tiger on September 19, 2007, 12:43:52 PM
When I compared the two myself, it looked like Hudson did a quick port for Genesis that wasn't nearly as good as it could've been.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Tatsujin on September 19, 2007, 01:08:08 PM
how 'bout some pics? please :)
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: awack on September 19, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/awack/MegaBombermanUE_001.jpg)(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/awack/Bomberman94J-001.png)

I think the genesis could have done a better job on the graphics with a better choice of colors.  Oh, i should add for the color blind that mega bomberman is on the left and bomberman 94 is on the right.

Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: nat on September 19, 2007, 01:56:36 PM
The music on the Genesis version sucks. I have no idea why they changed it. The tunes are completely different.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: spenoza on September 19, 2007, 03:10:41 PM
I have both. Maybe around Christmas when this semester of graduate hell takes a long trip off a short pier I'll take a closer look. I was just wondering if something had already been done with them.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Kitsunexus on September 19, 2007, 03:14:00 PM
The music on the Genesis version sucks. I have no idea why they changed it. The tunes are completely different.
I actually like the Genesis version better. The jungle song is more jazzy/catchy. And the Battle theme is the same.


Remember that TurboStation site PCEFX used to host? It had a KICKASS techno MP3 of the Bomberman '94 battle theme, it was lo-fi but I didn't care it RULED.  If Aaron still has it I would TOTALLY freak out with nostalgia.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: nat on September 19, 2007, 03:28:01 PM
The music on the Genesis version sucks. I have no idea why they changed it. The tunes are completely different.
I actually like the Genesis version better.

You are on crack.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Kitsunexus on September 19, 2007, 03:31:47 PM
The music on the Genesis version sucks. I have no idea why they changed it. The tunes are completely different.
I actually like the Genesis version better.

You are on crack.

I only like the music better. Everything else is INFERIOR to the PCE version.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on September 19, 2007, 03:49:37 PM
The music on the Genesis version sucks. I have no idea why they changed it. The tunes are completely different.


Actually, most songs are the same.  Here's the 2 soundtracks

Turbo-http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F52IZ0VG

Genesis-http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PX3POKHN
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Black Tiger on September 19, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
how 'bout some pics? please :)


I really didn't feel like doing any work :roll:, but I figured I might as well snap enough shots to make a comparison page-

http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/bomberman_94_comp.html

I haven't played much of either game, but I don't like the music in either version too much. I'll still try to put together some kind of music comparison soon though. :)

Mega Bomberman Battle Mode supports up to 4 players.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Keranu on September 19, 2007, 04:20:50 PM
Yeah they did a craptastic job porting it to the Genesis.

Awesome screenshots, Black_Tiger! I found these ones in particular to be interesting:

PCE
(http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/img/Bomberman9418.gif)

Genesis
(http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/img/mega_bomberman18.gif)

The Genesis version seems to believe that nearly all Bomberman should be white. Racism?
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: ceti alpha on September 19, 2007, 04:21:39 PM
Yeah, the colours of the PCE version shine in this game. But it seems to me that Hudson could have done a better job on the MD version. Though there still wouldn't have been the enhanced colours that the PCE version has.

PCE = rocks!  :P

By the by. I have to get Bomberman '94. I just have the original game that's an easter egg on the Gate of Thunder 3 in 1 CD. Then again, I need to convert my Turbotap and my other two Turbopads so I can get some multiplayer action goin'. Single player just doesn't cut it.  =;
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Black Tiger on September 19, 2007, 04:29:47 PM
At least they put one Genesis feature to use, adding an extra layer of background to the opening cinema. I'm guessing that there are other Genesis additions, but I haven't dug very far into the games. :P

Mega Bomberman is still part of the small group of Bomberman games I enjoy, along with the PCE games and Saturn Bomberman. 8)
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: nat on September 19, 2007, 06:06:07 PM
I own the Dreamcast Bomberman and it's not too bad. I haven't played it much, but the multi-player battle game is a lot better than the single player.

Your comparison really shows how much the Genesis version blows my nuts. Honestly, I didn't remember the graphical differences being that apparent. I just remember how bad the music was.

Apparently Mega Bomberman was a Mega Bomb.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Kitsunexus on September 19, 2007, 07:02:49 PM
I think the real question is why did we get Super Bomberman instead of a SNES port of this?
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Tatsujin on September 19, 2007, 07:40:51 PM
that MD BM'94 looks like awful poor thing. what happened there? :lol:
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Kitsunexus on September 19, 2007, 08:31:30 PM
You know, it sounds like we're slamming this game, but to be completely honest, I DO like it. It may mot have the prettiest graphics or the best music, but it's still a fun fully functional Bomberman game.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: SignOfZeta on September 20, 2007, 12:11:07 AM
I think the real question is why did we get Super Bomberman instead of a SNES port of this?

Well Hudson very rarely ports Bomberman games, they just make new ones for every system. The reason why this is a port (rather than an original title), I assume, is because the Megadrive was virtually dead in Japan when it came out, so they just got cheap and ported a PCE game and hoped that people elsewhere in the world would buy it since there was no release of B-Man '94 outside of Japan anyway.

I must say, IMO its a top 5 Mega Drive game...even though it sucks compared to the PCE version.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Black Tiger on September 20, 2007, 01:34:44 AM
I think the real question is why did we get Super Bomberman instead of a SNES port of this?

Well Hudson very rarely ports Bomberman games, they just make new ones for every system. The reason why this is a port (rather than an original title), I assume, is because the Megadrive was virtually dead in Japan when it came out, so they just got cheap and ported a PCE game and hoped that people elsewhere in the world would buy it since there was no release of B-Man '94 outside of Japan anyway.

I must say, IMO its a top 5 Mega Drive game...even though it sucks compared to the PCE version.

The rom I have is titled (W), so I assume that it was made with Europe and North America in mind.

Hudson also never supported the Megadrive(J) and only dropped a few ports and a new Dungeon Explorer on the Genesis/MD(EU) at the last minute. If the Lords of Thunder and Cobra ports weren't so good, you could argue that they didn't know how to develop Genesis games.

But just because they could've done a better job with the color and music doesn't mean that its not still a good looking PCE style Bomberman game. I still like the style way better than the Super Bombermen.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Tatsujin on September 20, 2007, 02:04:21 AM
I must say, IMO its a top 5 Mega Drive game...even though it sucks compared to the PCE version.

what bad trumps for the mega drive :lol:
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Necromancer on September 20, 2007, 04:47:35 AM
The Genesis version seems to believe that nearly all Bomberman should be white. Racism?

They must really hate the blue Bomberman, for they deleted him from the title screen.  I guess it would've raised too many questions if they'd left him in, since only four people could play, but that could've been down right funny.  I can hear it now: "Hey, is that an unlockable character?" - "Damn straight, just press up, right, down, left, II at the title screen.  What?  You don't have a button II?  Tough shit."

I agree, Mega Bomberman was a quick, half-baked port that could've looked a little better (it's still fun, though).  The oddest looking thing for me is the half a block shift on the screen, as it just looks weird cutting off the top of the field and is too close to the status bar.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Keranu on September 20, 2007, 07:36:42 AM
The Genesis version seems to believe that nearly all Bomberman should be white. Racism?

They must really hate the blue Bomberman, for they deleted him from the title screen.  I guess it would've raised too many questions if they'd left him in, since only four people could play, but that could've been down right funny.  I can hear it now: "Hey, is that an unlockable character?" - "Damn straight, just press up, right, down, left, II at the title screen.  What?  You don't have a button II?  Tough shit."
HAHAHAHA!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Black Tiger on September 20, 2007, 12:52:47 PM
It would've been nice to have kept 5 player matches with the option of having a 5th AI player.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Joe Redifer on September 20, 2007, 01:30:52 PM
The Genesis version should have been a Camerica J-Cart with 4 controller ports built in to the cart itself and also compatible with both 4-player adapter thingies for 8 player action.  But wait!  The game should have come with a male/female DB9 adapter so that you could use the modem port on the Genesis 1 for an additional player for a grand total of 9 player action.  Also while they're at it, they should have thrown in an SVP chip... just because.
Title: Re: Is there a comparison anywhere between PCE and MD/Gen BMan '94?
Post by: Black Tiger on September 20, 2007, 05:57:27 PM
At least the Saturn version lets you hook up two taps to get 10-player going.