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Title: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 30, 2004, 02:23:24 AM
I know this was in development back in the day but never got released. However, does anyone know if there's any playable demo of it or if somebody ever did a homebrew version?
Just curious. Thanks.
Title: Bonk RPG
Post by: Pcenginefx on July 30, 2004, 04:34:06 AM
Hi jlued686,
Thanks for the question - the Bonk RPG was reported to have been only 20% done before it was scrapped, and thus no playable demos or test versions were made. For more info, check out this page:
Title: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on August 03, 2004, 01:26:51 AM
Thanks Aaron. It would be cool if somebody picked up this project or developed their own version of it, eh?
Bonk needs to have a comeback. Let's hope the GCN and PS2 remakes are a sign of what's to come.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: BigusSchmuck on June 23, 2012, 06:29:38 PM
This is some super necropost, but seriously is there a demo or anything out there or at the very least some partial code someone could perhaps pick up where it left off?
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 23, 2012, 06:35:12 PM
If there is, I've never seen it, nor heard of anyone that's hoarding it.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on June 24, 2012, 01:57:13 AM
I've been told it more like 45% complete, and was completely playable. Grafxs, sound, text and other detail were the things that were missing out of the last (beta) release. I've been told be two different sources it was place on a pc engine demo disc but was not assessable through the menu or a code. But was just a chunk of data place on the disc. If it real, someone would have to have the disc and dig through the date to find it, most likely not going to happen :(
This is all rumored of course.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: BigusSchmuck on June 24, 2012, 05:58:49 AM
Well found some screenshots, not the best in the world but its stuff I haven't seen: http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/07/bonk-jenjin-rpg-pc-engine-cancelled/ http://turbo.mindrec.com/unreleased/bonk4/
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: motdelbourt on June 26, 2012, 07:04:58 PM
I've always thought something looked off about those screenshots. Most of them look like photos of a TV screen or monitor, but they look like mocks.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: ccovell on June 27, 2012, 03:31:50 AM
The crappy-ass 8-bit RPG screenshots/maps are from the real thing (game demo that got cancelled.)
The beautiful cartoony battle/dialogue shots with large bone frames are mock-up artist's concepts -- NOT the real game.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Arkhan on June 27, 2012, 06:23:03 AM
The game looks pretty fun, but I am still not sure if it'd ever have worked out that great. It's Bonk. He needs to be an action game
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 27, 2012, 06:25:14 AM
I've been told it more like 45% complete, and was completely playable. Grafxs, sound, text and other detail were the things that were missing out of the last (beta) release. I've been told be two different sources it was place on a pc engine demo disc but was not assessable through the menu or a code. But was just a chunk of data place on the disc. If it real, someone would have to have the disc and dig through the date to find it, most likely not going to happen :(
This is all rumored of course.
What a load...
I heard a rumor that it was canceled because Enix sued them for copyright infringement soon before completion. There are 10,000 complete copies, but since they were unsellable they will be buried with Toshiyuki Takahashi.
There you go. Now everyone has just heard a rumor. Have fun with it.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Black Tiger on June 27, 2012, 11:09:19 AM
I would have loved a game based on the original mockups, but I wasn't looking forward to the game that actually began development.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 27, 2012, 02:30:12 PM
I've been told it more like 45% complete, and was completely playable. Grafxs, sound, text and other detail were the things that were missing out of the last (beta) release. I've been told be two different sources it was place on a pc engine demo disc but was not assessable through the menu or a code. But was just a chunk of data place on the disc. If it real, someone would have to have the disc and dig through the date to find it, most likely not going to happen :(
This is all rumored of course.
What a load...
I heard a rumor that it was canceled because Enix sued them for copyright infringement soon before completion. There are 10,000 complete copies, but since they were unsellable they will be buried with Toshiyuki Takahashi.
There you go. Now everyone has just heard a rumor. Have fun with it.
The same woman that gave me a copy of "bonk: brink of extinction" is one of the people that told me that. See how she gave me a game that was never released I personally would believe her. Now of course this is my word, just adding my two cents. But then again only about half of the information on bonk is correct on the internet.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 01, 2012, 07:03:20 AM
Wait...how did she "give" you a copy of Bonk: BOE? On a disc? Say what? And considering how the team who made Bonk RPG had nothing to do with Bonk: BOE, I'd call your information suspect...at best.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: vestcoat on July 01, 2012, 08:29:03 AM
Wait...how did she "give" you a copy of Bonk: BOE? On a disc? Say what? And considering how the team who made Bonk RPG had nothing to do with Bonk: BOE, I'd call your information suspect...at best.
Yeah, you know, the Bonk BoE demo ROM that he was going to make available for free on his website until we criticized it and he took it down because we don't share his passion but now he's going to message Aaron and put his website and the demo on a torrent and have a link to it on PCEFX sometime within a year when he drinks because that's when he works on it. That ROM.
The memo: http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=11958.msg229924#msg229924
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 01, 2012, 12:06:44 PM
Wait...how did she "give" you a copy of Bonk: BOE? On a disc? Say what? And considering how the team who made Bonk RPG had nothing to do with Bonk: BOE, I'd call your information suspect...at best.
You were looking in the wrong place. What dose 'Bonk: BOE' and 'Bonk RPG' have in common? The publisher maybe, don't look at the developer.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 01, 2012, 05:53:40 PM
The same woman that gave me a copy of "bonk: brink of extinction" is one of the people that told me that. See how she gave me a game that was never released I personally would believe her. Now of course this is my word, just adding my two cents. But then again only about half of the information on bonk is correct on the internet.
So again I ask: what does Bonk RPG have to do with Bonk: BoE? Why would some random chick with a "copy" of BoE know jack or shit about Bonk RPG? And it'd be awesome if you could offer up some proof of your mysteriously gifted "copy" of BoE. Sorry for being a dick, but the whole thing smells like BS.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: TheClash603 on July 01, 2012, 11:18:14 PM
It is BS. The funny thing is he is making up owning a piece of shit. It would be like if I faked having Herpes to make you guys my friends. BOE looked so bad.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 01, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
It is BS. The funny thing is he is making up owning a piece of shit. It would be like if I faked having Herpes to make you guys my friends. BOE looked so bad.
you are absolutely right, believe as you wish
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: khog143 on July 02, 2012, 02:09:49 AM
The game looks pretty fun, but I am still not sure if it'd ever have worked out that great. It's Bonk. He needs to be an action game
I think Bonk RPG would work just fine, as long as it was in the right hands. I was worried about Super Mario RPG too, but that turned out great. It just needs to be done in the correct way, as is the case with an RPG, or game for that matter.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 02, 2012, 04:03:07 AM
It is BS. The funny thing is he is making up owning a piece of shit. It would be like if I faked having Herpes to make you guys my friends. BOE looked so bad.
you are absolutely right, believe as you wish
You could prove us all wrong by simply posting any sort of proof. That's all I'm saying.
The game looks pretty fun, but I am still not sure if it'd ever have worked out that great. It's Bonk. He needs to be an action game
I think Bonk RPG would work just fine, as long as it was in the right hands. I was worried about Super Mario RPG too, but that turned out great. It just needs to be done in the correct way, as is the case with an RPG, or game for that matter.
It looked like it could've been fun. But while Mario RPG had a unique battle system, making it a bit more action oriented, Bonk RPG (judging by the screens, at least) looked to be standard turn-based. Could've been cool, though.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: DrBread on July 02, 2012, 04:05:59 AM
I found this with some screenshots (even though they look like shit) i don't think it was posted yet.
http://bonkzonk.com/game.ktn?Game=rpcg
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: vestcoat on July 02, 2012, 04:40:49 AM
You're not the first noob to creep around pretending to have preposterous information/resources. Stolen photos, posts chock full of typos, a locked thread, and the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't, attention-whore BS with your website don't leave you with much credibility.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 02, 2012, 11:20:09 AM
You're not the first noob to creep around pretending to have preposterous information/resources. Stolen photos, posts chock full of typos, a locked thread, and the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't, attention-whore BS with your website don't leave you with much credibility.
I can understand some of your perspective, but stolen photos? You seem to have lost me on that one. Just cause someone takes the time to scan something in, it makes it their property? I would give credit to someone for their time for doing such an act. But it is not their property. I tried to contacted 'sunteam_paul' with no reply. I would say more then half the time I get not reply. But then again you seem to be replying to me just fine though. So me being an 'attention-whore' as you put it. I seem to have won, just by getting my reply knowing it works or getting attention. :)
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 02, 2012, 11:21:28 AM
Again I ask: proof? Simple. Done.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 02, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
Wow, way to ruin a good thread. I just wanted more information, not some crazy batshit drama sheesh.
The thread was already ruined when someone makes outlandish claims, yet fails to EVER show proof (typical).
Yeah, nothing useful was coming out of this thread. This guy is a joke. Lock it up!
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: motdelbourt on July 02, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
If I ever come across a rare prototype or somesuch, I'm going to troll the f*ck out of message boards for months before releasing to the community, just to throw people off. Maybe have all my posts auto translated into Chinese for good measure, then back into English.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 03, 2012, 07:27:39 AM
You're not the first noob to creep around pretending to have preposterous information/resources. Stolen photos, posts chock full of typos, a locked thread, and the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't, attention-whore BS with your website don't leave you with much credibility.
I can understand some of your perspective, but stolen photos? You seem to have lost me on that one. Just cause someone takes the time to scan something in, it makes it their property? I would give credit to someone for their time for doing such an act. But it is not their property. I tried to contacted 'sunteam_paul' with no reply. I would say more then half the time I get not reply. But then again you seem to be replying to me just fine though. So me being an 'attention-whore' as you put it. I seem to have won, just by getting my reply knowing it works or getting attention. :)
You don't seem to have tried very hard, considering you can PM me on this or many other forums, send a message via facebook or twitter, or email me directly. What did you do, put a message in a bottle and chuck it in the sea?
Also, you did ask about the scan in the thread after I pointed it out, to which I said it was fine and also gave you full permission to use anything else you wanted, with credit. :?
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 03, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
You're not the first noob to creep around pretending to have preposterous information/resources. Stolen photos, posts chock full of typos, a locked thread, and the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't, attention-whore BS with your website don't leave you with much credibility.
I can understand some of your perspective, but stolen photos? You seem to have lost me on that one. Just cause someone takes the time to scan something in, it makes it their property? I would give credit to someone for their time for doing such an act. But it is not their property. I tried to contacted 'sunteam_paul' with no reply. I would say more then half the time I get not reply. But then again you seem to be replying to me just fine though. So me being an 'attention-whore' as you put it. I seem to have won, just by getting my reply knowing it works or getting attention. :)
You don't seem to have tried very hard, considering you can PM me on this or many other forums, send a message via facebook or twitter, or email me directly. What did you do, put a message in a bottle and chuck it in the sea?
Also, you did ask about the scan in the thread after I pointed it out, to which I said it was fine and also gave you full permission to use anything else you wanted, with credit. :?
I'm very sorry I miscalculated, I did not take in count for the minor meteor shower that hit the moon, the gravitational pull was a little different that evening, which in turn throw off the normal oceanic waves, you may want to look southeast filthy-six and 13/6 paces down the beach, the bottle should be there. It's red with a big pink castus on it!
I tried emailing you (paul@pcengine.co.uk) without a reply. I asked you a few questions;
like where did you get the image? I know you wrote what magazine it came from. Why is there a big square block that reads, "part of image missing"? Were you the first person to scan this? And why is my image I have one pixel bigger both height and weight, I know it sounds lame but someone edit it at some point.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 03, 2012, 04:42:52 PM
I'll raffle off a game if somebody closes this abortion of a thread.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: roflmao on July 03, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 03, 2012, 05:53:12 PM
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No warez/ISO/ROM/P2P links Posting or asking for warez/ISOs/ROMs & P2P links is prohibited on the forums and is grounds for a permanent ban.
If someone can get the moderators to make an exception to this rules. I will make a torrent, host it, and seed too. Plus instructions on how to setup the game too.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: motdelbourt on July 03, 2012, 05:56:51 PM
You know what's neat about this forum? jlued686 started this thread almost 8 years ago, and he's still an active member and active even on this thread, all these years later. Cheers.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: vestcoat on July 03, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
No warez/ISO/ROM/P2P links Posting or asking for warez/ISOs/ROMs & P2P links is prohibited on the forums and is grounds for a permanent ban.
If someone can get the moderators to make an exception to this rules. I will make a torrent, host it, and seed too. Plus instructions on how to setup the game too.
Good luck with that. Aaron/PCEFX actually received a bit of official sanctioning from Hudson when the VC was launched, so this place isn't exactly off the map for Komami/Hudson and I'm sure they'd be thrilled to see you violate their copyright. Fortunately, you don't have it anyway.....AY, CARAMBA!!!!! LOCO SOY YO!!!! Hey, check me out at for some grrrreat :dance: tribalero beatz! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 04, 2012, 07:20:50 AM
I'm very sorry I miscalculated, I did not take in count for the minor meteor shower that hit the moon, the gravitational pull was a little different that evening, which in turn throw off the normal oceanic waves, you may want to look southeast filthy-six and 13/6 paces down the beach, the bottle should be there. It's red with a big pink castus on it!
That's the problem. My address has a yellow cactus. Pink is next door.
Needless to say, I never got that email. However, I will answer your questions.
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like where did you get the image? I know you wrote what magazine it came from.
Scan from PC Engine Fan I think, could be Gekkan or Marukatsu.
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Why is there a big square block that reads, "part of image missing"? Were you the first person to scan this?
Answer covers both: A friend and I wrote an article about the PC Engine for a UK gaming mag called Game Zone. We cut out a load of screenshots from Japanese magazines to send with the article. Unfortunately, the RPCGenjin bit was on the back of a page we cut into. So when I scanned it there was a hunk missing that I had to block over in photoshop.
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And why is my image I have one pixel bigger both height and weight, I know it sounds lame but someone edit it at some point.
Maybe they did. Depends where you got it from.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on July 04, 2012, 11:38:26 AM
No warez/ISO/ROM/P2P links Posting or asking for warez/ISOs/ROMs & P2P links is prohibited on the forums and is grounds for a permanent ban.
If someone can get the moderators to make an exception to this rules. I will make a torrent, host it, and seed too. Plus instructions on how to setup the game too.
Or you could just post a video of yourself playing the game. You know, something simple to prove you're not full of shit.
You know what's neat about this forum? jlued686 started this thread almost 8 years ago, and he's still an active member and active even on this thread, all these years later. Cheers.
Been here forever and check in nearly every day. I'm not the most active participant in the forums, but I do love it here. Great community with great people.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 04, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
No warez/ISO/ROM/P2P links Posting or asking for warez/ISOs/ROMs & P2P links is prohibited on the forums and is grounds for a permanent ban.
If someone can get the moderators to make an exception to this rules. I will make a torrent, host it, and seed too. Plus instructions on how to setup the game too.
Or you could just post a video of yourself playing the game. You know, something simple to prove you're not full of shit.
You know what's neat about this forum? jlued686 started this thread almost 8 years ago, and he's still an active member and active even on this thread, all these years later. Cheers.
Been here forever and check in nearly every day. I'm not the most active participant in the forums, but I do love it here. Great community with great people.
I have no need to show off, giving is sharing and sharing is caring. But right now I love this attention. You seem to really like talking with me, you're my new best friend, and thank you I think you're great too. :)
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Necromancer on July 05, 2012, 03:08:47 AM
I have no need to show off, giving is sharing and sharing is caring. But right now I love this attention. You seem to really like talking with me, you're my new best friend, and thank you I think you're great too. :)
Upload it to someplace like mediafire and PM link(s) to jlued, or just shut the hell up.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: rjardina on July 05, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
I have no need to show off, giving is sharing and sharing is caring. But right now I love this attention. You seem to really like talking with me, you're my new best friend, and thank you I think you're great too. :)
Upload it to someplace like mediafire and PM link(s) to jlued, or just shut the hell up.
Thank you for asking me to break the forum rules, And I'm sure mediafire doesn't allow it to. And why would I need to upload it. If you just ignore me, I wouldn't need to shut the hell up, your reply tells me you care about me. I love you too
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Necromancer on July 06, 2012, 02:54:33 AM
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: meka on August 07, 2012, 07:45:10 PM
I hope someone can get find the prototype and finish it.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on August 15, 2012, 07:25:13 AM
Lots of good information in this interview from 2008 (http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Interview:Shouichi_Yoshikawa). But relevant to Bonk RPG is this little tidbit:
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GDRI: Did you or A.I have any involvement with an unreleased Bonk/PC Genjin RPG for the PC Engine or with any of the GB Genjin games? SY: あははは。。。。「RPG原人」のことですか。。。あの作品は、私も現場にいる頃、ハドソンから試供されたロムでプレイしましたが、。。。。。うううーん、あれは、世に出なくて大正解だったと思います。 Ahahaha...RPG Genjin, you say? I was there for that. A sample ROM had come from Hudson that I played, but...No, I think the correct answer is that it never existed.
So maybe there's one out there somewhere?
Other points of interest (Bonk related)...
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GDRI: What happened with Ultra Genjin [N64]? SY: 「ウルトラ原人」の企画時期は、ちょうどゲーム業界が「２Dゲーム」から「ポリゴン３Dゲーム」に移行しようとする過渡期でした。技術的に勉強することもかなり多く、ゲーム制作に対して、誰もが混迷していた時期だと思います。そういうわけで、色々な試行錯誤の結果、「ウルトラ原人」は「ボンバーマンHERO」へと企画移植されました。 Ultra Genjin was being planned during the game industry's transition from 2D to 3D games. I studied the practical aspects of this quite a bit, but I think that nobody really knew what should be done with games at the time. As a result of trial and error, we were able to adapt the design for Ultra Genjin to Bomberman Hero.
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GDRI: Of the companies you mentioned, would you say A.I was the developer of PC Genjin? SY: かなり難しい質問ですが、私が企画＆監督した「PC原人３」の成功によって、エーアイがその後の作品を連続的に開発したことは否定できません。ただし、「PC原人」シリーズには、以下の会社スタッフで成立っていたことは、時系列的に考えた方が良いでしょう。 「PC原人１」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋アトラス＋エーアイ） 「PC原人２」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋???） 「PC原人３」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋エーアイ） 「超原人１」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋エーアイ＋アンブル） 「超原人２」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋エーアイ＋アンブル） This is a difficult question. As PC Genjin 3 (which I was the planner and supervisor on) was a success, from that point on, A.I was entrusted with development of the series. Perhaps the list below would be better. PC Genjin 1 (Hudson + Red Company + Atlus + A.I) PC Genjin 2 (Hudson + Red Company + ???) PC Genjin 3 (Hudson + Red Company + A.I) Super Genjin 1 (Hudson + Red Company + A.I + Amble) Super Genjin 2 (Hudson + Red Company + A.I + Amble)
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: hizaygizirlz on August 15, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
Interesting stuff Jlued686. I can't believe I somehow missed all the rest of this thread its only like 6 weeks old.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: reno5 on August 16, 2012, 12:07:00 AM
That was good stuff to read with my morning cofee ! :) Very interesting beside the Trolling :) No wait... that was the best parts !
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: esteban on August 16, 2012, 01:18:51 AM
Lots of good information in this interview from 2008 (http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Interview:Shouichi_Yoshikawa). But relevant to Bonk RPG is this little tidbit:
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GDRI: Did you or A.I have any involvement with an unreleased Bonk/PC Genjin RPG for the PC Engine or with any of the GB Genjin games? SY: あははは。。。。「RPG原人」のことですか。。。あの作品は、私も現場にいる頃、ハドソンから試供されたロムでプレイしましたが、。。。。。うううーん、あれは、世に出なくて大正解だったと思います。 Ahahaha...RPG Genjin, you say? I was there for that. A sample ROM had come from Hudson that I played, but...No, I think the correct answer is that it never existed.
So maybe there's one out there somewhere?
Other points of interest (Bonk related)...
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GDRI: What happened with Ultra Genjin [N64]? SY: 「ウルトラ原人」の企画時期は、ちょうどゲーム業界が「２Dゲーム」から「ポリゴン３Dゲーム」に移行しようとする過渡期でした。技術的に勉強することもかなり多く、ゲーム制作に対して、誰もが混迷していた時期だと思います。そういうわけで、色々な試行錯誤の結果、「ウルトラ原人」は「ボンバーマンHERO」へと企画移植されました。 Ultra Genjin was being planned during the game industry's transition from 2D to 3D games. I studied the practical aspects of this quite a bit, but I think that nobody really knew what should be done with games at the time. As a result of trial and error, we were able to adapt the design for Ultra Genjin to Bomberman Hero.
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GDRI: Of the companies you mentioned, would you say A.I was the developer of PC Genjin? SY: かなり難しい質問ですが、私が企画＆監督した「PC原人３」の成功によって、エーアイがその後の作品を連続的に開発したことは否定できません。ただし、「PC原人」シリーズには、以下の会社スタッフで成立っていたことは、時系列的に考えた方が良いでしょう。 「PC原人１」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋アトラス＋エーアイ） 「PC原人２」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋???） 「PC原人３」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋エーアイ） 「超原人１」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋エーアイ＋アンブル） 「超原人２」（ハドソン＋レッド・カンパニー＋エーアイ＋アンブル） This is a difficult question. As PC Genjin 3 (which I was the planner and supervisor on) was a success, from that point on, A.I was entrusted with development of the series. Perhaps the list below would be better. PC Genjin 1 (Hudson + Red Company + Atlus + A.I) PC Genjin 2 (Hudson + Red Company + ???) PC Genjin 3 (Hudson + Red Company + A.I) Super Genjin 1 (Hudson + Red Company + A.I + Amble) Super Genjin 2 (Hudson + Red Company + A.I + Amble)
(1) Has anyone followed up on this to find corroborating evidence? (2) Has anyone here played Bomberman Hero? Can we extrapolate/speculate on what components of the game may have originated from "Ultra Genjin"?
For folks who wanted to see a better scan of Bonk IV RPG found in EGM's 1993 Video Game Buyer's Guide (.pdf) (http://archives.tg-16.com/EGM/EGM_BG_1993.pdf). I think it is the cleanest scan you'll find on the internets. I had shared the raw file with bonkzonk.com years ago, but I don't know if it is available there.
For folks who wanted to see a better scan of Bonk IV RPG found in EGM's 1993 Video Game Buyer's Guide (.pdf) (http://archives.tg-16.com/EGM/EGM_BG_1993.pdf). I think it is the cleanest scan you'll find on the internets. I had shared the raw file with bonkzonk.com years ago, but I don't know if it is available there.
Thanks for this. Very interesting
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on August 16, 2012, 02:23:57 AM
Esteban: I've played Bomberman Hero, but it was quite a while ago. I do know that it's much more of a platform game in a pseudo-3D environment than standard Bomberman titles, complete with jumping. It's available on Virtual Console, so I was hoping to download it in the next few days. Here's a video:
Damn...I wish someone at Hudson Japan would unearth that Bonk RPG prototype.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: incrediblehark on August 16, 2012, 02:57:57 AM
Yeah Bomberman Hero is not really like a traditional Bomberman Game, but more platformy. free range movement. The comments of an Ultra Genjin (which I hadnt heard about) becoming Bomberman Hero makes sense to me considering how far from the usual bomberman gameplay it is. Haven;t played it in a while, but would be interesting to do a quick playthrough to see if anything left over from Ultra Genjin made it into the final, if theres any screens of UG?
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Black Tiger on August 16, 2012, 04:33:09 AM
At one point at least one mag talked about an attempt to do a 3D Bonk game. It was back during the 32-bit generation and I believe pre-N64. I remember my impression from what I read. 3D platformers were still pretty crude and developers were still figuring out how to do traditional genres in 3D. If the story was legit (probably EGM... probably Quarterman), then Ultra Genjin was probably just Bonk 3D. Since the biggest hurdle would have been trying to incorporate the spinning, it would make sense that they'd come to a point where they said "screw it! Let's just make it a Bomberman game". If things had gone smoother, then it likely would have come out sooner as Bonk 3D on Saturn. Bomberman was the dumping ground for Hudson's experiments back then (Bomberman Fight, Bomberman Wars, etc).
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: esteban on August 16, 2012, 05:03:52 AM
Ahhh, thanks for all of the info, comrades.
That actually fills in a lot of questions I had (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png).
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Damon Plus on August 16, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
6-Megs? That would make it the biggest game released in the USA for the system right?
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Sadler on August 16, 2012, 09:16:05 AM
I believe there are a few 8 meg cards. Bonk 3 and Magical Chase?
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Necromancer on August 16, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
I believe there are a few 8 meg cards. Bonk 3 and Magical Chase?
Magical Chase is only a 4mb cart, but Bonk 3 is indeed 8mb (the only US one I think).
Yep. PCECP.com lists megs n' shit. Neutopia 2 and Raiden are 6 Mega Power. Any other 6's?
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: Bernie on August 16, 2012, 10:15:56 AM
I hate seeing this thread keep popping up... It depresses me, since its something we will never experience. Well, unless Rover steps in and makes it.... :)
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on August 16, 2012, 11:17:30 AM
I hate seeing this thread keep popping up... It depresses me, since its something we will never experience. Well, unless Rover steps in and makes it.... :)
Unless someone in Japan unearths the ROM and puts it out! (Will never happen...)
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: incrediblehark on August 16, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
wait for MrMark to get a hold of the proto
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: henrycsc on August 16, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
I scanned the screenshots in higher rez for everyone
I hate seeing this thread keep popping up... It depresses me, since its something we will never experience. Well, unless Rover steps in and makes it.... :)
Unless someone in Japan unearths the ROM and puts it out! (Will never happen...)
From the looks of it the ROM seems to be just a mock up. I doubt it would even be playable.
Title: Re: Bonk RPG
Post by: KingDrool on August 16, 2012, 03:34:17 PM
At one point at least one mag talked about an attempt to do a 3D Bonk game. It was back during the 32-bit generation and I believe pre-N64. I remember my impression from what I read. 3D platformers were still pretty crude and developers were still figuring out how to do traditional genres in 3D. If the story was legit (probably EGM... probably Quarterman), then Ultra Genjin was probably just Bonk 3D. Since the biggest hurdle would have been trying to incorporate the spinning, it would make sense that they'd come to a point where they said "screw it! Let's just make it a Bomberman game". If things had gone smoother, then it likely would have come out sooner as Bonk 3D on Saturn. Bomberman was the dumping ground for Hudson's experiments back then (Bomberman Fight, Bomberman Wars, etc).
I deffinitely recall talk of a Bonk 3D game for PS1. So, I don't know if it was the same as Ultra Genjin or not.