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Title: RED - Who are they?
Post by: spenoza on October 22, 2007, 10:36:27 AM
RED... A name we know well. Bonk, Gate of Thunder, Sakura Taisen... Who are these developers? I can hardly find out anything about them. What are their ties with other companies? Does someone else own them these days? Just what's going on?

Anyone have information to add about RED? I know very little, but I'd like this thread to become something of an "All Things RED" thread.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Kitsunexus on October 22, 2007, 11:07:12 AM
They made on of the best SNES RPGs, "The Twisted Tales Of Spike McFang"!
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Necromancer on October 22, 2007, 11:14:07 AM
They're a dirty commie development company started by Stalin himself.... ehh, maybe not.

They did have there fingers in Deden no Den and Princess Minerva.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: nat on October 22, 2007, 11:43:21 AM
The following links should answer your questions, spenoza:

http://www.red-entertainment.co.jp/eng/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Entertainment

I suggest you visit their website first, as it has some fascinating historical facts about them and their history. (Click on the "About RED" button to get more options on viewing their history.) You asked if someone else owns them, and the answer is technically no, although they are part of the SEGA Group.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Black Tiger on October 22, 2007, 12:19:16 PM
They're the greatest video game developer of all time.

They make the Tengai Makyou/Far East Of Eden series. Recent releases include Namida for PS2, The Apocalypse IV for PSP, Manjimaru for DS and Ziria for 360.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 22, 2007, 02:22:47 PM
They also did Sakura Wars, which is a pretty great series. The third game being on of my favorite games ever. The new ones (PS2) look shite though. The death of the Dreamcast just sucked the wind out of Sega's sails something terrible...
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on October 22, 2007, 02:45:20 PM
I believe they also did Thousand Arms for PS1.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Tatsujin on October 22, 2007, 04:28:38 PM
I believe they also did the best horizontal shoot'em up in the 16-bit era combined with the best red book audio tracks people on earth ever could hear.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Odonadon on October 22, 2007, 05:10:32 PM
Great find, Nat.  That's some very interesting info about the company, actually.  Looks like they do character design and animation for games.  Cool!

OD
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Tatsujin on October 22, 2007, 06:58:15 PM
yeah..nice links there. just a big shame, that their best games are not listed or even mentioned something about it, in both of them.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: MurderDate on October 23, 2007, 01:09:12 AM
wow.. "45 employees" .. that IS interesteing   O:)

so what is their entire (US) output for the TG 16 ( xCD) ?
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: spenoza on October 23, 2007, 02:40:26 AM
The WP entry is almost, but not quite, worthless. It notes that they were involved with Sakura Taisen and then don't even mention the games under the Sega Saturn section below.

I've known RED's games for a long time, but nothing about THEM.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: nat on October 23, 2007, 03:51:57 AM
wow.. "45 employees" .. that IS interesteing   O:)


The WP entry is almost, but not quite, worthless. It notes that they were involved with Sakura Taisen and then don't even mention the games under the Sega Saturn section below.

I've known RED's games for a long time, but nothing about THEM.

Did either of you actually go to their website?

If you click the "About RED" link, that opens a second page with general statistics on the company. On this page, there are now a few options on the left you can click on to see more in-depth details, including a timeline of the company's growth.

I'm not sure what more you want to know about them. Are you looking for information on their founder's mother's maiden name? Curious about their lead programmer's bowel movement regularity, perhaps?

Seriously, their site tells just about everything I could possibly want to know about them. The only thing missing, as has already been pointed out, is a complete list of all games they have had involvement in.

Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: MurderDate on October 23, 2007, 04:52:13 AM
I didn't look at it.  45 employees was a lucky guess.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: spenoza on October 23, 2007, 10:16:38 AM
There's some stuff there, but I would really have liked more info about their Hudson days. And yes, a games list would have been nice, too. They just don't seem to be the company they used to be.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: nat on October 23, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
There's some stuff there, but I would really have liked more info about their Hudson days. And yes, a games list would have been nice, too. They just don't seem to be the company they used to be.

Video game developers seem to keep sparse information about their previous efforts available after the generation has come and gone. Not to mention when the generation in question was 20 years ago.

IREM is another good example. I was on their website the other day and there is precious little information on anything pre-PS2. Obviously, they have an "R-Type" section that has some brief music clips from the first couple games but not much else on those early titles. I couldn't find anything at all on games like Ninja Spirit, Mr. Heli, Image Fight, etc.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: spenoza on October 23, 2007, 03:20:51 PM
There may also be some information loss or focus change when the company re-orgs. Didn't Irem fold and get reborn or did they manage to just hang on by a thread? If Red, for example, had any major reorganizations, the company will likely focus on efforts surrounding that reorganization. No current management team wants to give any of the previous management teams, especially the one they just replaced, any credit for anything.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Tatsujin on October 23, 2007, 04:30:58 PM
yeah..IREM was dead during 94~97 as a game manufacturer! but IREM is joining the EIZO group all the times.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Ninja Spirit on October 25, 2007, 08:36:16 AM
1000th post.

How about "Hagane", a SNES action platformer from RED that's so overlooked, and imagine how much fire it would've been if was SCDROM2 or Arcade Card.


Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: GUTS on October 25, 2007, 01:04:19 PM
That game ruled so hard, I've been searching for a complete US version for years now.  It definitely would have been way better on Duo though with some sweet cinemas and awesome music.  Its like the ninja game Kaze Kiri should have been, and one of the only platformers I've played on SNES (or any system actually) that comes even remotely close to being as kickass as a Shinobi game.
Title: Re: RED - Who are they?
Post by: Tatsujin on October 25, 2007, 04:37:34 PM
hagane is quite cool but also hard as hell!! :(