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Title: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on November 09, 2007, 05:45:17 PM
Every once in a while, I WILL catch the "Laser Game" bug, and get obsessed with games like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, Astron Belt, Cobra Command, Time Gal, and others. And this is one of those times. I never did get to acquire the DVD/PS2 DL game by Digital Leisure. DL is a legend. It's hard, yes, but fun! And Princess Daphne is one of the sexiest princesses ever drawn. I have this PC disc with DL I & II and Space Ace on it, but I think I'll have more one with one of the PS2/DVD ones. :D Now when the hell is Digital Leisure gonna do PS2/DVD discs of Cobra Command and Time Gal?
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Kitsunexus on November 09, 2007, 06:27:24 PM
Screw that, I have an email confirmation that Digital Leisure has the rights to Brain Dead 13, when are they going to make discs of that!?
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 09, 2007, 07:35:54 PM
Why do you say PS2/DVD?  It's not like one format is bound to the other.  Dragon's Lair exists on DVD and is quite playable that way.  Games like Time Gal, Cobra Command  (Thunder Storm), Road Avenger (Road Blaster) and the like can't be done on generic DVD because they have fire or action buttons.  Cobra Command requires a movable crosshair.  A DVD player can only accept one command at a time, and with Dragon's Lair that is a direction key and not a problem.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Kitsunexus on November 09, 2007, 07:53:32 PM
Theoretically, you could remake Dragon's Lair using HTML and embedded Youtube videos!  :lol:
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Turbo D on November 09, 2007, 08:05:42 PM
thats a great Idea! and funny too  :lol:
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 09, 2007, 08:08:24 PM
Quote from: Kitsunexus
Theoretically, you could remake Dragon's Lair using HTML and embedded Youtube videos!  :lol:

It'd be far easier to just make a Flash video that can be clicked on directly or recognize keyboard input.

But it would be funny to see Dirk walk up to something, the screen freezes and a page opens up with UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT SWORD links,  You click on one and it directs you to the proper video.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Kitsunexus on November 09, 2007, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: Kitsunexus
Theoretically, you could remake Dragon's Lair using HTML and embedded Youtube videos!  :lol:

It'd be far easier to just make a Flash video that can be clicked on directly or recognize keyboard input.

But it would be funny to see Dirk walk up to something, the screen freezes and a page opens up with UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT SWORD links,  You click on one and it directs you to the proper video.

Seriously! Choose Your Own Adventure: Dragon's Lair!  :lol:
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on November 11, 2007, 07:49:30 AM
I wonder why DL and Space Ace never got ported to the Turbo......
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: guyjin on November 11, 2007, 09:46:06 AM
I wonder why DL and Space Ace never got ported to the Turbo......

'cuz FMV games suck and the turbo had too many as is.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Kitsunexus on November 11, 2007, 04:29:52 PM
Because Turbo video is less video and more "slidey sprites".  :P
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: MotoRoaderMike on November 11, 2007, 06:29:52 PM
Because Turbo video is less video and more "slidey sprites".  :P

lol
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: TR0N on November 11, 2007, 07:15:24 PM
Every once in a while, I WILL catch the "Laser Game" bug, and get obsessed with games like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, Astron Belt, Cobra Command, Time Gal, and others. And this is one of those times.

What about Ninja Hayate/Revenge of the Ninja ?
This game had me laughing when i owned a sega-cd.

Heck i all most wish DL would give it a dvd release.

Btw,befor some says how come can ya didn't vids for it on laserdisc.Simple i can't find them on youtube guess they got pulled.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 11, 2007, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: Kitsunexus

Because Turbo video is less video and more "slidey sprites".  :P


The Turbo is a video powerhouse!  Which would you rather have, China Warrior on HuCard or Aliens Deluxe Ultra Extreme Director's Cut Collectors Criterion CAV Edition 2.1 with the Gaffer's Commentary on LaserDisc?  Yeah.  Thought so.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 11, 2007, 11:14:42 PM
I wonder why DL and Space Ace never got ported to the Turbo......

'cuz FMV games suck and the turbo had too many as is.

"Too many"? You mean, "zero"?
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Necromancer on November 12, 2007, 05:07:50 AM
"Too many"? You mean, "zero"?

No, he means "three".  :wink:
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: guyjin on November 12, 2007, 09:33:51 AM
Yeah. the 3 'fmv' turbo games were it came from the desert, jb harold murder club, and....  #-o can't remember, but whatever it was sucked.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Necromancer on November 12, 2007, 09:52:04 AM
Wrong - J. B. Harold Murder Club has digitized photos, not video.  The three fmv games are It Came From the Desert, Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective, and Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol. 2.  I suppose that we could change it to 3.5 games to include John Madden Duo CD Football, though the videos weren't essential parts of game play.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: guyjin on November 12, 2007, 06:36:12 PM
ok, 3 FMV games and one NMP game, which is even worse.  :P
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: SignOfZeta on November 12, 2007, 11:29:15 PM
Yeah, but none of them are "FMV" games like Dragon's Layer, Space Ace, etc, or even Sewer Shark.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on November 14, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
Gulliver Boy had FMV's in it too- pretty impressive ones at that.

I also loved the FMV ending in John Madden Duo!!


Someone should put that on Youtube!....



hmmmm
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 14, 2007, 11:43:48 AM
What is a NMP game?
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Black Tiger on November 14, 2007, 01:31:48 PM
Yeah, but none of them are "FMV" games like Dragon's Layer, Space Ace, etc, or even Sewer Shark.

Its true, you could play It Came From the desert and Shermatlocks just as well with only the audio from the clips.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: awack on November 14, 2007, 02:29:08 PM
Wasn't the extra processor in the sega CD put in for fmv games like Dragon's layer, space ace and games with fmv backgrounds like slipheed and Bram stokers Dracula?
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 14, 2007, 03:11:17 PM
No, the extra CPU was to make the games more intense.  Sega of America discovered that you can use it to stream digital video (remember, "digital" means "perfect" and that's why digital is ALWAYS better than analog).  Then Digital Pictures went apeshit and thought they had finally found their true calling.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: awack on November 14, 2007, 04:06:00 PM
Those damn ebay sellers must have stole the more intense parts of my sega cd games before they shipped them to me.

So, its sega of America genius we can thank for all the amazing fmv games.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: guyjin on November 14, 2007, 04:13:24 PM
NMP = Non Moving Picture.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Necromancer on November 14, 2007, 04:35:09 PM
NMP = N-Methylpyrrolidone (a great solvent for cleaning electronics).  :wink:
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: TR0N on November 14, 2007, 04:52:22 PM
NMP = N-Methylpyrrolidone (a great solvent for cleaning electronics).  :wink:
I thought it stood for as numb minding pain  :roll:
Still what do i know  :P
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 14, 2007, 05:01:41 PM
JB Harold Murder Club is teh awsum.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: nat on November 14, 2007, 05:06:22 PM
JB Harold Murder Club is teh awsum.

I haven't opened my copy yet.

As soon as I finish a few others games I'm working on, I'll open 'er up and find out.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: MissaFX on November 30, 2007, 06:37:43 PM
Ninja Hayate and Time Gal have nearly flawless conversions on the PS1. They also come in the same package ^_^  There was another 2 CD, LD game pack sold at the same time too, but I wanted Time Gal and had to choose between them.  The other pack had Thunder Storm and Road Blaster I believe.

The 3DO has a better version of Brain Dead 13 imo than the PS1 sadly and so I only play it on the 3DO now.  The constant popping in the audio in the PS1 version is something I really wish the company had worked out before releasing it.

I wish they would release some PS2 LD game conversions especially of games like Dragon's Lair II or Pyramid Patrol.  I would also love to see a conversion of the six person, dual LD game of Starblade (actually there are 2 different Starblade games like this)...but I highly doubt that is ever going to happen :(  Oh and I would love a nearly flawless console version of Space Ace.  I am annoyed that I have never found a console version of this game which doesn't break up the game play each time you die.  I am so much more used to the arcade feel where you die, get laughed at, sometimes called a creep and then are playing again so fast that the background song present it much of the game seems seemless from one life to the next. 

The PS1 version of Time Gal is a perfect example of how to convert a LD game to a home console though, I cannot recommend it enough.  Sadly it isn't cheap to buy.  I just looked on ebay and someone wants over 100 dollars for it.  Although I think the game was 7,800 yen retail.  It might have been 6,800, but I do remember it was more expensive than most other PS1 games.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Kitsunexus on November 30, 2007, 06:42:07 PM
Ninja Hayate and Time Gal have nearly flawless conversions on the PS1. They also come in the same package ^_^  There was another 2 CD, LD game pack sold at the same time too, but I wanted Time Gal and had to choose between them.  The other pack had Thunder Storm and Road Blaster I believe.

The 3DO has a better version of Brain Dead 13 imo than the PS1 sadly and so I only play it on the 3DO now.  The constant popping in the audio in the PS1 version is something I really wish the company had worked out before releasing it.

I wish they would release some PS2 LD game conversions especially of games like Dragon's Lair II or Pyramid Patrol.  I would also love to see a conversion of the six person, dual LD game of Starblade (actually there are 2 different Starblade games like this)...but I highly doubt that is ever going to happen :(  Oh and I would love a nearly flawless console version of Space Ace.  I am annoyed that I have never found a console version of this game which doesn't break up the game play each time you die.  I am so much more used to the arcade feel where you die, get laughed at, sometimes called a creep and then are playing again so fast that the background song present it much of the game seems seemless from one life to the next. 

The PS1 version of Time Gal is a perfect example of how to convert a LD game to a home console though, I cannot recommend it enough.  Sadly it isn't cheap to buy.  I just looked on ebay and someone wants over 100 dollars for it.  Although I think the game was 7,800 yen retail.  It might have been 6,800, but I do remember it was more expensive than most other PS1 games.

Missa, you rock.  8)
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: MissaFX on December 01, 2007, 05:36:30 AM
Missa, you rock.  8)
:oops:

When I was young, my dad would go to a bar called Charlie's Pool Hall.  It had 2 large counters, multiple tables, pool tables, pinball machines and some arcade machines.  Games like Dragon's Lair were burned into my young mind, granted that was a game I usually watched adults play.  I actually don't have any memories of playing with other children there.  But anyways, I played a lot of pinball, I would usually use the left flipper standing on a large crate and I would have someone else play the other flipper for me since I couldn't reach around to use both.  I also have a lot of memories playing different Galaxian (hope my spelling is correct there) clones, which is where I think my love for 2-d shooters comes from.  The LD games I saw there though (and played sometimes) really touched a deep emotional part of me, and so I feel most nostalgic about them.
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: TR0N on December 01, 2007, 03:16:38 PM
Now if some body get the rights to cliff hanger.
Of...corse the problem it use the footage from the movie castle of cagliostro.
Wich being a,Lupin the 3rd movie that would be a matter of rights  :P
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: Dark Fact on December 01, 2007, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: TRON
Now if some body get the rights to cliff hanger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv7VWZkz98s
Of...corse the problem it use the footage from the movie castle of cagliostro.
Wich being a,Lupin the 3rd movie that would be a matter of rights  Razz

The rights to Castle of Cagliostro is in the hands of Manga (http://www.manga.com/) entertainment while the other footage comes from the movie Mystery of Mamo which is in the hands of Geneon (http://www.geneonanimation.com/) entertainment.  It's highly unlikely the game will ever see a re-release.  Besides, it was just a hack job of the Lupin games anyway.
Quote from: Missa
When I was young, my dad would go to a bar called Charlie's Pool Hall.  It had 2 large counters, multiple tables, pool tables, pinball machines and some arcade machines.  Games like Dragon's Lair were burned into my young mind, granted that was a game I usually watched adults play.  I actually don't have any memories of playing with other children there.  But anyways, I played a lot of pinball, I would usually use the left flipper standing on a large crate and I would have someone else play the other flipper for me since I couldn't reach around to use both.  I also have a lot of memories playing different Galaxian (hope my spelling is correct there) clones, which is where I think my love for 2-d shooters comes from.  The LD games I saw there though (and played sometimes) really touched a deep emotional part of me, and so I feel most nostalgic about them.

Did you play GORF? :D

GOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRF!
Title: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR
Post by: TR0N on December 01, 2007, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: TRON
Now if some body get the rights to cliff hanger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv7VWZkz98s
Of...corse the problem it use the footage from the movie castle of cagliostro.
Wich being a,Lupin the 3rd movie that would be a matter of rights  Razz

The rights to Castle of Cagliostro is in the hands of Manga (http://www.manga.com/) entertainment while the other footage comes from the movie Mystery of Mamo which is in the hands of Geneon (http://www.geneonanimation.com/) entertainment.  It's highly unlikely the game will ever see a re-release.  Besides, it was just a hack job of the Lupin games anyway.
Quote from: Missa
When I was young, my dad would go to a bar called Charlie's Pool Hall.  It had 2 large counters, multiple tables, pool tables, pinball machines and some arcade machines.  Games like Dragon's Lair were burned into my young mind, granted that was a game I usually watched adults play.  I actually don't have any memories of playing with other children there.  But anyways, I played a lot of pinball, I would usually use the left flipper standing on a large crate and I would have someone else play the other flipper for me since I couldn't reach around to use both.  I also have a lot of memories playing different Galaxian (hope my spelling is correct there) clones, which is where I think my love for 2-d shooters comes from.  The LD games I saw there though (and played sometimes) really touched a deep emotional part of me, and so I feel most nostalgic about them.

Did you play GORF? :D

GOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRF!

I know who has the rights to,Lupin in the u.s beside geneon there is funimation as well.

It's one big mess right there.