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Title: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: Turbo D on November 15, 2007, 02:44:10 AM
 :x :x :x Those bastards shut down demonoid!!!  :x :x :x

http://www.demonoid.com/
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: rolins on November 15, 2007, 03:13:42 AM
I used Demonoid alot too, really gonna miss it. Also Oink was taken down too. Now I have to find new places to download comics and music.  :evil:
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: nat on November 15, 2007, 03:16:36 AM
I had just subscribed to Oink and used it once right before it was taken down.
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Post by: GUTS on November 15, 2007, 11:31:59 AM
Shit, demonoid was one of the few places you could find really good quality audio torrents.  I hate how 90% of the people out there think 128kbps is acceptable, on demonoid you could always find 320 or FLAC versions of everything.
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: Turbo D on November 15, 2007, 12:30:20 PM
ya, it is really depressing  :(
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Post by: Bonknuts on November 15, 2007, 01:13:26 PM
God damnit, those motherf*ckers  :?
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Post by: ceti alpha on November 16, 2007, 02:04:14 AM
I never got an invite to Demonoid.  :( hehe. Though I always forgot to check around for their "freejoin" days they sometimes have. Sorry to see it go. My friend's gf was going to give me the invite.

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I hate how 90% of the people out there think 128kbps is acceptable, on Demonoid you could always find 320 or FLAC versions of everything.

Haha. I'm one of those people. Well I can get up over 200kbps, but yeah, I know Demonoid was super quick. A friend of mine gets over 500kbps.

At the same time I won't miss it and everything is normal.   :P
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: nat on November 16, 2007, 02:59:09 AM
I think he was talking about the file's bitrate, not download speed.
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Post by: Necromancer on November 16, 2007, 03:43:32 AM
I know he was, unless FLAC is some new way to measure speed.  ](*,)
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Post by: GUTS on November 16, 2007, 05:52:10 AM
Yeah I hate low bitrate MP3s, they sound awful.
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: ceti alpha on November 16, 2007, 07:41:10 AM
Hmmm....sorry. I guess it's the kbps (PER SECOND) that confused me. I've been obsessing lately over improving my download speeds.   #-o

But yeah, 128 is not acceptable though I really haven't had a problem finding good quality files outside of Demonoid.  :-k

Anyway, if I really want good quality music or video I'll buy the damn product. I'm not against downloading at all, but if I like a band I've downloaded or a particular album I'll buy it. The music industry is full of shit when they say they're losing money from people downloading. As if I would've bought all the music I've downloaded.  =; When I was a kid there was no internet but we did have blank cassettes. I would generally buy certain CDs/LPs/TAPES that my friends didn't have and vice versa. We would tape the ones we didn't have or if we really liked a certain album we'd buy it for ourselves.
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Post by: Necromancer on November 16, 2007, 08:12:36 AM
The music industry is full of shit when they say they're losing money from people downloading. As if I would've bought all the music I've downloaded.

Annual music sales (all formats combined) have been in a steady decline since the year 2000.  I seriously doubt that this is due to people listening to less music, but more due to theft and, to a lesser extent, the purchase of singles instead of the entire album.
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Post by: nat on November 16, 2007, 09:15:53 AM
The music industry is full of shit when they say they're losing money from people downloading. As if I would've bought all the music I've downloaded.

Annual music sales (all formats combined) have been in a steady decline since the year 2000.  I seriously doubt that this is due to people listening to less music, but more due to theft and, to a lesser extent, the purchase of singles instead of the entire album.

It could also have something to do with the fact that the majority of music relased since 2000 f*cking blows.

When I was a kid there was no internet but we did have blank cassettes. I would generally buy certain CDs/LPs/TAPES that my friends didn't have and vice versa. We would tape the ones we didn't have or if we really liked a certain album we'd buy it for ourselves.

Yeah, that's about how it went for me. Except I rented tapes & CDs from the library and then dubbed them onto blank tapes if I liked 'em. I had a massive collection of music on recordable cassettes at one point.
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Post by: Necromancer on November 16, 2007, 09:25:34 AM
It could also have something to do with the fact that the majority of music relased since 2000 f*cking blows.

I won't deny that most music released since 2000 sucks, but no more so than it did before 2000.  The quality of the music is irrelevant; people are listening to more and more music but are paying for less and less.
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Post by: nat on November 16, 2007, 10:10:51 AM
Music sucks 90% more now than it did in the first part of the '90s and before. Music has been on a steep and steady decline since 1995 or so. The music industry in 2007 consists mainly of a bunch of lameasses with gold teeth making up words and spouting shit that doesn't even make sense about clubs and bitches.

My point is that it's no wonder less people are buying music today than ten years ago. It's all crap. But people still listen to it because that's what's "popular." They aren't motivated to buy it because next week something else will be "mad dope." How many CDs have you bought that were produced in the 90's and earlier? How many CDs do you own that were produced since 2000? In the last 7 years I can probably count on my two hands how many CDs I've bought. In the 90's I bought literally hundreds.

I will buy an album if I think it's worth the money and I want to support the artist. Despite the availability of illegal downloads online, I think the majority of the population feels the same way I do. You want to encourage your favorite artists to continue to produce good music so you pay the asking price for their album. During the grunge and alt rock era one of my favorite things to do was go to the local CD store and see what kind of cool imports or obscure records I could pick up.

While there's no denying illegal downloading of songs has a small impact on record sales, if everyone's ability to download said songs suddenly disappeared I don't think you'd see much of a spike in record sales. Put simply, 90% of the music out today just isn't worth the money.
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: Turbo D on November 16, 2007, 02:21:45 PM
Nats right, music today sucks. I think that I have only bought about 2 or 3 cds since 2000, haha.
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Post by: ceti alpha on November 16, 2007, 04:21:04 PM
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Yeah, that's about how it went for me. Except I rented tapes & CDs from the library and then dubbed them onto blank tapes if I liked 'em. I had a massive collection of music on recordable cassettes at one point.

Haha. I forgot about doing that when I was younger. Also when I was a kid I was lucky since my brother and his friends worked at record stores and would give me their staff discounts. 50% off was sweet. A ton of my CDs are from those days...obviously.

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Nats right, music today sucks. I think that I have only bought about 2 or 3 cds since 2000, haha.

Most of today's music is trash. A lot of music I buy is 60s jazz (Jimmy Smith, Kenny Burrell, Italian B movie soundtracks, etc.). You really have to dig deep nowadays to find anything worth the effort it takes to press play.
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Post by: Necromancer on November 16, 2007, 05:58:36 PM
While there's no denying illegal downloading of songs has a small impact on record sales, if everyone's ability to download said songs suddenly disappeared I don't think you'd see much of a spike in record sales. Put simply, 90% of the music out today just isn't worth the money.

So, you honestly believe that if the downloading of songs was impossible, then everyone would abandon their ipods, zunes, and what not?  Perhaps, but then those people would return to the radio, raising advertising revenue and, in turn, the record companies' profits.

Most of the top selling albums of the 90's are just as crappy as what's being churned out today.  Who ever liked listening to Whitney Houston, Alanis Morissette, Hootie & the Blowfish, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Celine Dion, Kenny G, Boyz II Men, Mariah Carey, TLC, MC Hammer, Michael Bolton, or the shit stains known as Creed?
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Post by: Keranu on November 16, 2007, 06:56:37 PM
Most of the top selling albums of the 90's are just as crappy as what's being churned out today.  Who ever liked listening to Whitney Houston, Alanis Morissette, Hootie & the Blowfish, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Celine Dion, Kenny G, Boyz II Men, Mariah Carey, TLC, MC Hammer, Michael Bolton, or the shit stains known as Creed?
Hey now I love MC Hammer and Whitney Houston!
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Post by: Kitsunexus on November 16, 2007, 07:02:40 PM
1. This pisses me, as Demonoid was the only torrent site I ever went to.

2. Who the f*ck gives a shit about what Canada thinks? The only thing more pussy than these Canadian lawyers is the fact that DEMONOID PUSSIED OUT TO CANADIAN LAWYERS. Seriously, it's f*cking CANADA! OMG, CURLING BROOMS, HOCKEY STICKS AND TASERS! DON'T TASE ME BRO! AAAAAAAH!

Demonoid DESERVES to be shut down for this.
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: nat on November 16, 2007, 08:32:21 PM
While there's no denying illegal downloading of songs has a small impact on record sales, if everyone's ability to download said songs suddenly disappeared I don't think you'd see much of a spike in record sales. Put simply, 90% of the music out today just isn't worth the money.

So, you honestly believe that if the downloading of songs was impossible, then everyone would abandon their ipods, zunes, and what not? 

Probably not, but they'd find other ways. For example, go to the library like we used to do in the old days!  :D

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Most of the top selling albums of the 90's are just as crappy as what's being churned out today.  Who ever liked listening to Whitney Houston, Alanis Morissette, Hootie & the Blowfish, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Celine Dion, Kenny G, Boyz II Men, Mariah Carey, TLC, MC Hammer, Michael Bolton, or the shit stains known as Creed?

I disagree. But as a matter of fact-- I like TLC. But don't tell anyone. And only their first two albums. None of that "Fan Mail" or "Scrubs" shit. MC Hammer deserves a mention for "Can't Touch This" which is good, if only for the cheese factor alone.

Most of the artists you listed are shit, I will not argue. But you listed the crappiest "popular" artists of the 90's. You can find shitty artists from ANY decade. I am saying that there are 90% more shitty artists today than there were in previous decades.

My point is that before 2000 (or 1995-2000) there was simply more music worth paying for. It's almost like the music industry has adapted to the fact that they think everyone will illegally acquire their music anyway so they produce craptacular songs to accommodate.
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Post by: Kitsunexus on November 16, 2007, 08:39:20 PM
I like TLC.


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2352/2040068502_7f51b7ac0d.jpg)
Title: Re: Damn you Canadian Recording Industry a$$holeciation !!! :x
Post by: nat on November 16, 2007, 08:39:50 PM
Yeah yeah yeah.
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Post by: nodtveidt on November 16, 2007, 11:37:50 PM
Anything I'd buy on CD usually can't be found in most stores down here. I will agree that popular music has taken a major nosedive in the last decade, so in order to find good modern music, you have to look at the underground scenes. I also think that anyone who jumps on a hate-for-a-particular-band bandwagon is an idiot.
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Post by: FM-77 on November 18, 2007, 02:30:43 AM
Demonoid was a pretty poor torrent site, but it still sucks they were taken down. And death metal is only getting better and better by every year, so I'm not complaining about music from 2000 or later. In fact, 99% of the music I listen to nowadays is from 2000 or (usually) later. Who gives a shit what is being played on the radio? ALL of that music has ALWAYS sucked, regardless of the year it was produced.

We didn't get music like this in the 90's

http://www.myspace.com/deadeyedsleeper

http://www.myspace.com/miseration

http://www.myspace.com/impaled
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Post by: Keranu on November 18, 2007, 09:54:58 AM
Death metal sucks :P .
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Post by: rag-time4 on November 18, 2007, 11:36:30 AM
Music sucks 90% more now than it did in the first part of the '90s and before. Music has been on a steep and steady decline since 1995 or so. The music industry in 2007 consists mainly of a bunch of lameasses with gold teeth making up words and spouting shit that doesn't even make sense about clubs and bitches.

My point is that it's no wonder less people are buying music today than ten years ago. It's all crap. But people still listen to it because that's what's "popular." They aren't motivated to buy it because next week something else will be "mad dope." How many CDs have you bought that were produced in the 90's and earlier? How many CDs do you own that were produced since 2000? In the last 7 years I can probably count on my two hands how many CDs I've bought. In the 90's I bought literally hundreds.

I will buy an album if I think it's worth the money and I want to support the artist. Despite the availability of illegal downloads online, I think the majority of the population feels the same way I do. You want to encourage your favorite artists to continue to produce good music so you pay the asking price for their album. During the grunge and alt rock era one of my favorite things to do was go to the local CD store and see what kind of cool imports or obscure records I could pick up.

While there's no denying illegal downloading of songs has a small impact on record sales, if everyone's ability to download said songs suddenly disappeared I don't think you'd see much of a spike in record sales. Put simply, 90% of the music out today just isn't worth the money.


Sounds to me like you're getting old.
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Post by: nat on November 18, 2007, 11:58:05 AM
Perhaps, but the fact remains that popular music today blows nuts.
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Post by: nodtveidt on November 18, 2007, 02:37:49 PM
Right now I'm listening to an MP3 rip of Within Temptation - The Heart Of Everything. I cannot find this disc or ANY of their discs in stores down here. Yes, it's modern music, but you don't hear it on the radio down here (no idea about anywhere else), and I love it. Of course, there's a "Within Temptation sucks!" bandwagon I've come across a great number of times..."they cater to the goth fags!" is the usual crap I see/hear people say. f*ck the haters. I also like a few songs by Creed but I doubt I'd buy any of their albums...not enough good songs to keep my interest.

The CRIA needs to die, just like the RIAA.
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Post by: Kitsunexus on November 18, 2007, 02:39:30 PM
Death metal sucks :P .


Hell yeah it does. Let's make fun of it! http://warehouse.carlh.com/article_141/

The CRIA needs to die, just like the RIAA.


I salute you (but you will probably not like my previous link).
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Post by: nodtveidt on November 18, 2007, 03:03:34 PM
Not everyone likes death metal, which is just fine...I think country music sucks, but some people like it a lot. I like pretty much any variety of metal myself, with a preference for late 90s black metal (Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, Dissection, etc) and Viking/folk-style metal (such as early Mithotyn).

That link is actually pretty damn funny. :D Though like it says on the page, most of those pics are of black metal bands, not death metal bands.
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Post by: nat on November 18, 2007, 03:40:30 PM
Metal is good, death metal isn't my favorite though. And certainly most any good metal is underground, anymore.
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Post by: Kitsunexus on November 18, 2007, 04:08:43 PM
I think country music sucks, but some people like it a lot.

And those people are idiots.

I like some rock, a lot of techno, some rap, some jazz, a LOT of VGM.


The stuff that FM linked to is alright, but stuff like Cannibal Corpse is just not any good at all (too hard to be catchy).
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Post by: nodtveidt on November 19, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
Kitsu: Dunno if you know it or not, but the original frontman for Cannibal Corpse, Chris Barnes, left the band and formed his own band called Six Feet Under. This was way back in the late 90s when I was a DJ. Their music is rather catchy. I'm not sure if they're still around or not because I haven't really kept up with the metal scene after I left the radio station but they did some pretty impressive work back then. The last I knew, Cannibal Corpse was fronted by this guy who they called "Corpsegrinder" if I remember correctly.
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Post by: ceti alpha on November 19, 2007, 01:08:34 PM
"Country" music that is out today is not Country music. It's crappy pop music with pedal steel guitars and singers putting on fake country accents. Again, it's not country music.