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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: ParanoiaDragon on December 10, 2007, 11:10:03 AM
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http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/dlink/index.html?episodeID=8a25c39216aee7120116b0cf1c370018
This, is looking good! I don't care what anyone says, even if they do have goofy designs, things are looking good storywise & characterwise! So far, I'm happy! I can't tell you how much better this 3 minute clip is, then Armada, Energon, Cybertron, & RID. Those cartoons, maybe from time to time, had their moments, but, they really did nothing for me. But this, really does look to be a like combination of G1 & Beast Wars, which, IMHO, is a wonderful combination. And I'm digging the new younger Prime(by David Kaye, aka Beast Wars Megatron), & the new Megs(by Corey Burton aka G1 Shockwave...among others). I'm happy. This is really looking like it's not going to suck in the long run! Hoorayyy!
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That's stupid, why do they require Flash AND Windows Media? That's kind of like requiring Quicktime AND MPEG to view something. Since they are this retarded, I can only assume their retardedness transfers over in to the cartoon as well.
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http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/dlink/index.html?episodeID=8a25c39216aee7120116b0cf1c370018
This, is looking good! I don't care what anyone says, even if they do have goofy designs, things are looking good storywise & characterwise! So far, I'm happy! I can't tell you how much better this 3 minute clip is, then Armada, Energon, Cybertron, & RID. Those cartoons, maybe from time to time, had their moments, but, they really did nothing for me. But this, really does look to be a like combination of G1 & Beast Wars, which, IMHO, is a wonderful combination. And I'm digging the new younger Prime(by David Kaye, aka Beast Wars Megatron), & the new Megs(by Corey Burton aka G1 Shockwave...among others). I'm happy. This is really looking like it's not going to suck in the long run! Hoorayyy!
I don't really like Bumblebee's voice (or Prime's for that matter). I hope they grow on me. I love the combo of BW, and GI to :) Bw is still one of the best TF series to date (and I grew up on G1).
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Somebody recorded it onto youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glpS72FXT0k Doesn't look as good on youtube, but, still gives you a good idea.
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I don't really like Bumblebee's voice (or Prime's for that matter). I hope they grow on me. I love the combo of BW, and GI to :) Bw is still one of the best TF series to date (and I grew up on G1).
I grew up on G1 as well, I love both G1 & BW, I like different aspects of both.
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G1 is about nostalgia, and great character design....BW was/is one (if not THE) best writing ina cartoonever (may even beat some regular shows...lol).
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Ug. The Transformers look far too human. Why do they go to the effort of imitating G1 Starscream's voice, but nobody else? Hell, it probably only sounded like Starscream and was instead Brawl (who now happens to be a Decepticon) or some shit like that knowing how Transformers usually plays out these days. And what is this all spark nonsense? I thought that was super lame in the Michael Bay movie, and now they continue that shitty story line here?
G1 Transformers are the best (though still geared a bit too much towards little f*cktards known as children). The rest is crap, clearly. Enough with the friggin' reboots.
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As much as I would love for G1 to continue, rather then a reboot.....it just ain't gonna happen. My only prayer is for a reboot, that will be good.
I want Starscream to sound like Starscream. I don't mind the others being new sounding, I especially dig Megs. Some other characters will sound the same as their original counterparts though. Like Arcee, who's being voiced by the original actress, & Corey Burton is going to be redoing his role as Shockwave, can't wait to here that!
Oh, & Brawl was always a Decepticon, infact, he's a Combaticon in G1, he's the tank of the group. You're probably thinking of Brawn, who's an Autobot.
Here's G1 Brawl http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Brawl/brawl.htm
G1 Brawn http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Brawn/brawn.htm
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Yeah, Brawn.
What does Bumblebee say the first time he's knocked over? Doesn't sound like English. And since the English colonized Cybertron over 4 million years ago, I think that they should all be speaking that language.
Storywise it could be good, but I've had way too much of the "minimalist" art style in pop culture for awhile now.
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I'll give it a shot...I can promise no more..lol
The only thing that bothers me BAD so far (not shown in this video)...is the human girl.........
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That's true, I think her name is Sari. Still not sure how she'll be handled.
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But this, really does look to be a like combination of G1 & Beast Wars, which, IMHO, is a wonderful combination.
What? G1 is totally f*cking rad, and Beat Wars is soulless plastic puppet pretense. The difference is like chocolate and shit.
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G1 is GREAT, but BW had a story arc that pretty much ran the whole series. Writing was mature, and well written.
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Here's G1 Brawl http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Brawl/brawl.htm
G1 Brawn http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Brawn/brawn.htm
I was looking at this site and there are quite a few Transformers that aren't even transformed properly in the photos!
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I was reading on another baord that visited the Hasbro headquarters for work, and a few of the robots in the display case in their lobby were mis transformed...lmao :)
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Totally ghey.
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Yeah, I see that quite often. But, that's the best site I know of for pictures of every transformer made.
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^ Same here...most boards I go to use this as a pointer to peoples questions.
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G1 is GREAT, but BW had a story arc that pretty much ran the whole series. Writing was mature, and well written.
Since your avatar is a Crossbone Gundam, I can only assume you've seen much better animated scifi. I can think of probably 50 different anime with better storylines, and about 500 with better animation. Beast Wars is some ugly ugly ugly shit. Basically the pre-rendered CG cinemas from a year one European PS1 game. The worst. Even those newer cel shaded TF shows where they basically don't even fight (just lock hands and stand there like the word's worst Firepro players) are better.
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Yeah, I see that quite often. But, that's the best site I know of for pictures of every transformer made.
Everyone should own a copy of Transformers Generations. It depicts every TF (US, JP, and EU versions) until just short of the BW shite, plus episode guide for the TV shows (US, and JP), and even the Marvel comics. A perfect book.
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I can't say I'm impressed. Transformers was always anime-ish, but this is going too far.
They should have kept going with Robots In disguise, rather than start a new show.
its better than beast wars/machines, at least.
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To each their own. I try to stay open minded and go into something, and find what I like. Admittedly, the BW (espically season 1) was pretty ugly. The backrounds were bad, but the characters were well done, and I enjoyed it. The new series is a little to "Teen Titans" (same people doing it) for me...but I will still have an open mind.
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Believe me, months ago, when I first saw Prime's Teen Titans/Ben 10 design, I thought it was the Devil. But, it's all kind of growing on me, & really, the only TF shows I've ever truly enjoyed came from the US or Canada, the Japanese just can't seem to get it right, they always want to make it some wierd Pokemonish show. This, I can handle, & there's already 2 seasons done with a 3rd in the works!
This show, just might work. Sure, it ain't G1, nothing is, though, for non believers, Beast Wars is the continuation of G1, it's 300 year in the future. The 2 races in Beast Wars, are the direct descendants of the Autobots & Decepticons. The technology used on them, is an advanced mix of G1's Pretender shells(making life like alt modes) & Micromasters fuel efficiency. They were doing a Micromasters comic, that explains all that. And, for the show itself, it's deffinitly above anything I've seen on the PS1, especially with seasons 2 & 3. If BW could've been done on the PS1, why didn't the BW game look exactly like it? And even if the PS1 can do it, I don't care, I love the show. I used to hate it, just like I used to hate this new show.
With BW, it took years for me to accept it. I finally decided I like some of the toys, namely, TM2 Megatron, since he turns into a dragon, & I love dragons! But, then I noticed there were G1 bots on the show. Not just Starscream & Ravage, but, others too(without spoiling the story), & I realised what the whole point of the Beast Wars was. It's not even that all TF's now turn into animals, it's only that on this one particular planet, there are no vehicles, the only thing that would be worthwhile to transform into to blend in, is animals. On Cybertron, they pretty much are all vehicles. Even then, it's not like we didn't have animalbots before, we had lots, some peoples favorites, like the Dinobots, Predacons, Ravage, Lazerbeak, Buzzsaw, Ratbat, Skylynx, Terrorcons, Insecticons, & more.
But, like Nectarsis said, each to his own. :)
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I can't say I'm impressed. Transformers was always anime-ish, but this is going too far.
They should have kept going with Robots In disguise, rather than start a new show.
That doesn't make any sense. Every TF show that I know of that wasn't Beast Wars was animated in Japan except this new one. Its the least "anime-ish" show yet, other than Beast Wars of course, which was a non-interactive year 1 European PS1 game, as discussed earlier.
its better than beast wars/machines, at least.
It most certainly is.
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I'll keep an open mind until I actually see a couple of whole episodes, but why is everything rounded off so damn much? Angles aren't scary, are they?
That's true, I think her name is Sari. Still not sure how she'll be handled.
Hopefully, she'll be crushed in an 'accident'.
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I can't say I'm impressed. Transformers was always anime-ish, but this is going too far.
They should have kept going with Robots In disguise, rather than start a new show.
That doesn't make any sense. Every TF show that I know of that wasn't Beast Wars was animated in Japan except this new one. Its the least "anime-ish" show yet, other than Beast Wars of course, which was a non-interactive year 1 European PS1 game, as discussed earlier.
its better than beast wars/machines, at least.
It most certainly is.
G1 Seasons 1-4(4 being the 3 part Rebirth) were done in the US. The only thing done in Japan for the first 3 seasons, was the character designs(& possibly the animation itself, but all the stories were planned & written in the US). After season 3(in Japan, they ignored Rebirth), they did Headmasters, Masterforce, Scramble City, Victory, & Zone. If you ever watch these series, you can deffinitly see a difference in writing. The company that did the US G1 shows, was Sunbow. Takara's first show was Headmasters, & it looks like Toei did that all by themselves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_The_Headmasters I believe Toei did help with the US series somewhat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transformers_%28TV_series%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transformers_(TV_series)) So, G1, intially, was a US show, that Takara had dubbed, & then later, continued after the US show died.
Here we go: "Written and recorded in America, and produced for American audiences, the series was animated in Japan and South Korea, and was based upon the line of transforming toys originally created by Japanese toy manufacturer Takara, which were developed into the Transformers line by American company Hasbro."
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Yes, I know all of this.
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I'd like to know who was responsible for animating "Carnage in C Minor". Worst episode ever. I have probably talked about this on this forum before, but here is a link to my review of that episode anyway:
http://www.joeredifer.com/stuff/tf/transformers.html
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Ha, that's actually one of my favorite episodes ever! But, it's not because it's a well done episode, it's because it hilariously so bad, that I totally love it! Why are Huffer & Brawn, who are dead by this time, now alive & kicking, & fighting alongside the Decepticons!?!? I love it! :D
edit-Might I add, that your review is awesome, I was crying I was laughing so hard! I love the picture with Blaster & Magnus hanging off the wings of Broadside! And Grimlock smiling, that's something I never noticed before! And I think that's supposed to be Bonecrusher, but, he's extra wierd looking in that picture, I wonder if the animators were drunk when they made this, or if everyone involved just decided to get together & make a horribly wrong episode?
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I couldn't watch the Cartoon Network video as I'm in Canada and not allowed to. Top secret stuff I guess. :roll:
Anyway, I watched it on youtube and it looks to be OK. I'm not a fan of the robot design, but the writing and voices are a hell of a lot better than those Energon and Armada versions I've come across. Those cartoons will give you a seizure with how fast and nonsensical the dialogue is.
Bottom line: I'll give it a chance.
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I just thought of another character who's going to have the same voice, Blurr. He's being voiced by John Moschitta Jr., Mr. Mirco Machine himself!
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New bio info, I especially like the Decepticons so far:
http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1139/
http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1138/
http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1140/
http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1141/
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Although this seems more promising than anything post Beast Wars, it's going to take a while for me to get used to the "Warner Bros." cartoon design style. But whatever, if this helps to keep interest in the Transformers I'm all for it. We all have the G1 cartoons to go back to. Anyway, I have to say that I like that they're really bringing out into the story that the Autobots are not warriors, but rather "fixer robots" or whatever you want to call them.
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I agree, the art is hard to swallow, though, there's a few I like, especially Megatron when he gets his earth mode, he looks like G1 Megs! And even G1, originally, Autobots came from the worker class, with the con's coming from the warrior class. If anything, this is probably a nod to that :)
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And even G1, originally, Autobots came from the worker class, with the con's coming from the warrior class. If anything, this is probably a nod to that Smile
Totally. :)
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Here's some biased(towards G1) reviews of the TFA movie that premieres next week. They actually use G1 footage from War Dawn(when Optimus was Orion Pax, & Ultra Magnus was Dion, & Elita-1 was Ariel, though, it sounds like you only see Dion), to show the history of the previous war!
http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1143/
http://www.bwtf.com/animated/tvshow/1.shtml
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Another clip from the show:
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=40794
Focus is on Starscream, & a battle with Megs.
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I dunno, might be OK. Not worth paying for cable TV, though (which I will never do for any reason).
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That's why I have satellite instead of cable :dance: No seriously, I don't even watch much tv, but, there's a few shows I do watch.
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TV really is the pits most of the time. I'm a news addict so I always have CBCNW or CNN on in the background. Reruns of Three's Company, but I'm collecting the DVDs so I will eventually not need cable/satellite to watch it. Battlestar Galactica - the best thing on TV right now. But I'm glad they're ending the show on the 4th season. Shows should never really go beyond 4 seasons anyway.
I'm sorry to admit that I'm currently addicted to a Myspace.com internet program called "Quarterlife". 8-[ Maybe it's because the star of the show is cute or something. :-k
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Yeah, I mostly watch DVD sets rather then actual TV these days.
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Yeah, I mostly watch DVD sets rather then actual TV these days.
Sounds like me some times it is better to watch a serise that way,live action or animated.
No tv ads etc and you can watch it when ever you want too.
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Sounds like me some times it is better to watch a serise that way,live action or animated.
No tv ads etc and you can watch it when ever you want too.
It's funny. I actually will sometimes watch a program on TV that I have on DVD. It's stupid, but I guess it has to do with watching something at the same time as other people....I don't know. heh
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Even with TV, I rarely see ad's since I have Dish Network, I just record what I want to watch, & then watch it later. Saves me time & hassle so that I don't have to sit in front of the tv when a specific show comes on, & I also have something to watch, when I actually feel like watching something.
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Forgot to mention, looking at the episodes synopsis's, it looks like the Dinobots make their debut early in this season, with the Contructicons about halfway thru. I wonder if eventually, they'll add Sludge & Snarl to the group, since their starting with 3, though, in G1, originally, Snarl & Swoop were the 2 newer bots. And as for the Constructicons, I wonder if there will be 6 of them, as, I haven't seen a single pic of any prototype toy or anything, so, the only thing I can assume is that they're green :D
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Did Snarl die before the legendary year of 2005? He was not in the movie.
Also, where is Autobot City located? Does it have a Best Buy?
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FOKISSED TRANSFORMS INTO A REFRIGERATOR BECAUSE HE'S SO DAMN CHILL!
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Nah, Snarl's fine, & was in one of the later episodes. I've seen a pic of Snarl in the movie, I think it was when they're all in the ship at the begining, but, I'm not sure of the exact scene. Him not really being a part of the movie though, was a mistake on somebody's part, maybe the writers.
It seemed like Autobot City ala Metroplex was located somewhat near the Ark in the Volcano, which IIRC was in Oregon. They only had a Kmart sadly ](*,)
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New series on now on Cartoon Network :)
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Yup, watched some of it, but want to wait for the wife & some friends to come over before I really watch it. What I saw, I like, though, some of the animation, IMO is kinda jerky. Diggin the characters!
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Not to shabby so far...like I said before, some of the voices are...meh..and Detroit...C'mon........
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Ok, finished it. I don't know that it'll ever be as good as G1 or BW, but, it seems good so far. Sari isn't as annoying as I feared. I love all the bots voices, ....I love all the bots so far...well, except Blitzwing might take some getting used to. But, he was only in it for about 10 seconds or less, so there's time to develop him. There's a good amount of humor, & when I say good, I don't mean a large amount, I mean, it was actually funny at times. The humans in general, I think, will take some getting used to, which, atleast for me, is normal. TF shows don't need humans for them to be successful. Btw, anyone catch that glimpse of Spike, Carly, & Daniel :) That was cool. There's a lot of nods to stuff, especially G1.
I'm not sure that I like the Autobots struggling against just 1 Decepticon, that might take some getting used to as well, though, from the looks of the episode guide, it probably won't all be like that. Either way, it looks to be the best new TF series in years, since the Unicron trilogy & RID didn't really do it for me, though, atleast when it comes to both Cybertron & RID, I really liked the designs of the bots alot better then in this, but, that goes without saying.
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Weird you feel like this about it,when I look at the art direction and marketing,I think of Playskool.
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The art direction, I feel Play School might be appropriate, it's just so basic looking. And marketing, just like G1 & BW, is for young kids, but, like G1 & BW, I think this series will be enjoyable. I would've atleast prefered something more along the lines of Justic League, but, this'll have to do. But what's wierd is, even though I'm not big on the designs in the show....the toys are a different story, that actually look like they might be cool. Infact, a million times better then the recent movie toys, which, were really flimsy imo. The Decepticons look the best, & the least childish...if childish at all. They're still in the same direction, but, they just look more mature to me, so, I have a feeling I'll really be digging the con's toys more the the Autobots.
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Weird you feel like this about it,when I look at the art direction and marketing,I think of Playskool.
Hopefully, they'll go the route of Beast Wars and have some sort of electromagnetic storm (or whatever it was) change the forms of the Transformers. Because, like the Beasties, these guys need a facelift.
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(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x285/nectarsis/1198722092538.jpg)
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I gotta admit, that scene was funny :D But, isn't Sari supposed to be 7 or 8? How much could she really know about sex, that's one thing I was thinking at the time.
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Why does that "Transformer" have human lips?
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Because that's the way they designed him, plus, he has a battle mask that comes up, sort of like movie Prime.
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How extraordinarily gay!
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Meh, I'm putting up with it. Actually, some of the guys involved in the show(I think it was Marty Isenberg) isn't all too thrilled with the art direction either.
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I think they are trying to make it easy to draw so they can complete shows faster and nobody will notice if it looks sloppy and they mess something up... kind of like Picasso. I'm surprised they even color the damn thing.
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I think they are trying to make it easy to draw so they can complete shows faster and nobody will notice if it looks sloppy and they mess something up... kind of like Picasso. I'm surprised they even color the damn thing.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/robo.jpg)
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I wish they would go all CGI like they did with Beast Wars. I LOVED that show. Cheetor was my favorite character because he was a smart ass. I had the 12-inch figure that made sound and shot out missles and everything! (http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Machines-Electronic-Maximal-Cheetor/dp/B000038A9Y) :dance:
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I'm not sure if I would prefer cell or cg. I'm loved G1 & I love cell animation, but, I love BW & cgi can be cool. Maybe cell shaded if it was cg. The guy/guys that drew up the designs though, are the same ones that did Ben 10 & Teen Titans, which is one of the reasons I would've prefered something more along the lines of Justice League, which, even that, isn't super detailed. All of Bruce Timm's stuff(aside from the little work he's done on Teen Titans) was simple, but, not as simple as TFA. But, I'll deal with it.
I haven't really watched Teen Titans myself, but, I've heard that it got alot better over time. However, I don't know if that means the character art, or the story. Probably means the story.