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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: Sinistron on January 02, 2008, 06:58:50 AM
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Wondering about this- price-wise mostly always the PCE hucards are cheaper to get thus better- but I'm wondering- for games in which no English language is necessary- which Japanese carts are better than their American counterparts and why?
So far I'm figuring Kato & Ken over JJ & Jeff, for the pissing and farting,
Paranoia over Psychosis, for the alien giving you the finger,
Doraemon over Cratermaze- since Doraemon is naturally much sweeter than that big headed goon in Cratermaze...
I recently read here that PC Denjin has Moo Moo shooting milk out of her tits whereas Air Zonk doesn't-
Please add ones you can think of- be it for reasons of censorship or missing levels, cutscenes, what have you.
There's also in PC Genjin III (Bonk III) Bonk turning effeminate when he eats meat. This isn't necessarily better- though I personally find it amusing-
and then I know the rare case for Magical Chase- in which the graphics were actually improved for parts in the American version- well at least to my tastes judging by pictures- I've yet to play this.
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Yeah, the American Magical Chase is better. It's a pity you have to take out a mortgage to get a legitimate copy.
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I don't know if it's really 'better', but the PCE version of Splatterhouse has a proper colored mask and an upside down cross (ooh, scary).
Oh f*ck it.... try search sometime, ya tool. (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=3489.msg50361#msg50361) :lol:
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AHHHHHHHHHHH thank you Necro
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Forum search engines usually suck balls unless you are already familiar with the thread you are searching for and know which key terms will get you there. Searching for something where you don't know whether it exists or not can be a real hassle in forums. Forum search is not google.
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Well I have no issue with being called a tool. You chaps are a good lot. :|
I see that Paranoia has levels in different places than in Psychosis- does anyone know if this in fact makes the game easier or tougher? Haven't played this since I was a wee one but I remember it being difficult...
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No offense intended - I just didn't want to type what was already in a similar thread.
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How much does Magical Chase go for? I was just watching the comparison videos on superpcenginegrafx.com last night. I'd definitely prefer the TG-16 port over the PCE.
Geeze! I just looked on eBay and the PCE version is going for just under $150 CAN!! :shock: I'm scared to know what the TG-16 version goes for.
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Those 'Buy It Nows' are way, way overpriced, as PCE Magical Chase is worth no more than $50 (even less if you're willing to wait for a deal). The TG-16 version goes for $400-500, plus or minus an anal fisting.
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Quick question: Is Magical Chase related in any way to Cotton?
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Other than the theme, no.
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The TG-16 version goes for $400-500, plus or minus an anal fisting.
Woa!! =; I guess I'm just going to have to hope that one day I just happen to find one lying on the ground.
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Woa!! =; I guess I'm just going to have to hope that one day I just happen to find one lying on the ground.
The grammar Nazi wants to know what falsehoods the Magical Chase HuCard would be telling. Is it a PCE version masquerading as a TG-16 version? :-k
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Well I have no issue with being called a tool. You chaps are a good lot. :|
I see that Paranoia has levels in different places than in Psychosis- does anyone know if this in fact makes the game easier or tougher? Haven't played this since I was a wee one but I remember it being difficult...
They changed the level progression in the US version so the game flows better. They flip-flopped levels 2 and 3.
In the Japanese version, level/boss 2 (the "Lego" level) is harder than level/boss 3 (the garden). They fixed this for the US version so that you get the garden first, which makes more sense.
I like the US version better, personally. I can do without being flipped off between levels.
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Violent Soldier underwent some significant changes in becoming Sinistron. Here's my take (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2047.msg49559#msg49559) on how they compare. I like them both the same, but some might consider one better than the other.
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the pc engine versions of bonk and zonk are a bit gay compared to the US versions. In the pce versions, bonk or zonk usually turn into crossdressing drag queens, lol. Its typical Japanese humor I guess.
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Woa!! =; I guess I'm just going to have to hope that one day I just happen to find one lying on the ground.
The grammar Nazi wants to know what falsehoods the Magical Chase HuCard would be telling. Is it a PCE version masquerading as a TG-16 version? :-k
Ooh, I'm gonna enjoy your explanation of this one. :) If you think it should be "laying", you're seriously mistaken.
And I think Doraemon/Cratermaze should be removed from the list. At first I thought Cratermaze had the cute Doraemon characters removed and replaced with generic characters, but Cratermaze is in fact closest to the arcade original. Doraemon is the "lame" paintjob.
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watch out for covel's mysterious moon letters :twisted:
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The TG-16 version goes for $400-500, plus or minus an anal fisting.
Woa!! =; I guess I'm just going to have to hope that one day I just happen to find one lying on the ground.
Yeah it cost a arm and a leg just ask turbo D :wink:
Still if you wanna play it the cheap way there's all,ways the pce flash card.
I myself plan just to get the pce version later on.
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:mrgreen: worth every penny
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... plus or minus an anal fisting.
Those jerks! But I guess... no pain, no gain.
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Eh- I know that Cratermaze is closer to the original- Booby Kids or whatnot- I just find Doraemon much sweeter and the Arabian Nights game is one of my favorite hucards. Actually just got my Doraemon last night and I could swear that there is differences in the music in Doraemon and Cratermaze- I'll have to compare both tonight.
Had Sinistron when I first had a turbografx- however I need it again- but from what I've just read looks like Violent Soldier will be the way to go. I remember being owned by Sinistron constantly. Again- if anyone's wondering why my member name here is Sinistron and I don't currently possess the cart and got my ass kicked by it in the past- the first five letters of my last name are in the title.
Actually received five games last night- Loom (love it), Spin Pair (is what it is), Doraemon, Kattobi! (pcecp said I didn't need to know Japanese- trying to play it it seems very much like I do- which sucks because it seems like something I'd enjoy), and Champions Forever (had this back in the day- just traded my extra Motoroader with MurderDate for this- for the collection). Still waiting on my Sapphire. ](*,)
Magical Chase- that's so f*cking rough. I know that if I shelled out 150 for the japanese I'd just wish that I went all the way and purchased the American which looks to me so much better. But 400-500 for a hucard- ack. I'd say hopefully the price will drop when it becomes available for virtual console but I don't think we've seen any turbo games prices drop from that and who knows if we will. Perhaps virtual console inclusion will just make the originals more popular. I'll have to chalk up Magical Chase as the one hucard I want that I'll probably never have.
Now if only someone can tell me why the number one on my hucard wish list- the american Hero Tonma is listed as a rarity level 4 and goes for such insane prices on EBay? Any differences with the Japanese version?
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Now if only someone can tell me why the number one on my hucard wish list- the american Hero Tonma is listed as a rarity level 4 and goes for such insane prices on EBay? Any differences with the Japanese version?
I own only the Japanese version of Tonma, but considering that the goofy between-stage text in said version is already in English, I bet they didn't make the US version different at all.
Kattobi! (pcecp said I didn't need to know Japanese- trying to play it it seems very much like I do- which sucks because it seems like something I'd enjoy),
I like pcecp and I reference it pretty frequently (mainly for the images), but I wouldn't put too much stock in their "Amount of Japanese needed" and even "Genre" entries. It's clear in some cases that they didn't do much more with the game than power it up for a few moments, which led to some bad calls in those areas (they call Cyber Knight a digital comic, which it certainly is not).
"Amount of Japanese needed" is kind of an iffy category to begin with, anyway. I and a few other posters around here have played through and enjoyed lots of PCE RPGs and adventure games that are Japanese-text-heavy, and we're certainly not fluent in the language.
Had Sinistron when I first had a turbografx- however I need it again- but from what I've just read looks like Violent Soldier will be the way to go. I remember being owned by Sinistron constantly. Again- if anyone's wondering why my member name here is Sinistron and I don't currently possess the cart and got my ass kicked by it in the past- the first five letters of my last name are in the title.
Everyone who has ever played Sinistron has an "It kicked my ass back in the day" story. No shame in that. :wink:
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And I think Doraemon/Cratermaze should be removed from the list. At first I thought Cratermaze had the cute Doraemon characters removed and replaced with generic characters, but Cratermaze is in fact closest to the arcade original. Doraemon is the "lame" paintjob.
Personally I think it works as a Doraemon game with all the kooky gadgets... It makes much more sense thematically than Batman, which to me doesn't feel much like a Batman game at all.
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The music for Doraemon/Cratermaze is different. So be sure to check out the HES file for Cratermaze that I ripped for some excellent tunes!
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So far I'm figuring Kato & Ken over JJ & Jeff, for the pissing and farting,
Oh no you did-n't! :mrgreen: Me and Black_Tiger are strong supporters of J.J. and Jeff and the fart attack in Kato and Ken is just obsolete compared to the spray attack in J.J. and Jeff. Why should I have to turn around to attack when I can simply not turn at all ;) ? It feels a lot better knocking out those dragons without having to turn around.
Also I think it looks funnier without the piss because you see the dude just bobbing up and down, doing god knows what.
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I'm with Keranu and BTiger too! 8)
Also I think it looks funnier without the piss because you see the dude just bobbing up and down, doing god knows what.
He looks like he's wacking it or humping the pole, haha
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So far I'm figuring Kato & Ken over JJ & Jeff, for the pissing and farting,
Oh no you did-n't! :mrgreen: Me and Black_Tiger are strong supporters of J.J. and Jeff and the fart attack in Kato and Ken is just obsolete compared to the spray attack in J.J. and Jeff. Why should I have to turn around to attack when I can simply not turn at all ;) ? It feels a lot better knocking out those dragons without having to turn around.
Also I think it looks funnier without the piss because you see the dude just bobbing up and down, doing god knows what.
Ha! I never thought about it before, but a can of spraypaint is kooler than a gas attack, especially since JJ & Jeff is so 80's (and the spraypaint+graffiti connection just makes it sweeter).
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Well you're certainly afforded the time to turn around for the attack- unless you masters can actually get that long neck dino as he's initially appearing. I always have to wait for his second appearance.