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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 03:28:37 PM

Title: discdoctors....
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
Which is better, manual crank or powered?
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: SignOfZeta on January 16, 2008, 03:31:09 PM
They are both shit. Take your disc to a record/game store with a real resurfacing machine.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 03:33:39 PM
Which is better, manual crank or powered?

I use Eucerin skin cream, rub it into the disc with my fingers, then I wipe it off on a really soft shirt which is heading to the wash anyways.  This makes a lot of bad Netflix discs work.

Personally from using a couple I would suggest you only get a powered one if you spend a good amount of money on it.  Otherwise a manual one will probably have less a chace of messing something else up worse.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 03:37:08 PM
Personally from using a couple I would suggest you only get a powered one if you spend a good amount of money on it.

You spend a good amount of money on EVERYTHING at Gamestop. :(
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: nat on January 16, 2008, 03:59:12 PM
The copy I just got of Strider 2 for the PS1 over eBay is too scratched to work. Won't even boot, just crashes the system. Funny because the auction says "all items tested and working." The scratch is a perfectly straight line all the way across the disc. It doesn't look particularly deep.

Either way, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to return it. I can probably get it to work if I resurface it.

Has anyone had any good experiences with the home kits?

If I was to take it some where, who has a resurfacing machine? Any major chains?


Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
Joe said Blockbuster, but they're mean. :cry:
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 04:11:34 PM
The copy I just got of Strider 2 for the PS1 over eBay is too scratched to work. Won't even boot, just crashes the system. Funny because the auction says "all items tested and working." The scratch is a perfectly straight line all the way across the disc. It doesn't look particularly deep.

Either way, it's probably more trouble than it's worth to return it. I can probably get it to work if I resurface it.

Has anyone had any good experiences with the home kits?

If I was to take it some where, who has a resurfacing machine? Any major chains?



If you want to mail it to me I can get it resurfaced for 3 bucks. We have a few game stores here that do it in NLR and Conway. It will depend on how scratched up it is though. Anyway you can take a pic?
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: nat on January 16, 2008, 04:49:40 PM
It's scratched all over, but not that bad. Nothing that should cause it not to work anyway.

Look at the scratch that looks like a vertical dotted line on the right side of the disc. I am 98% sure this is what is causing it not to work. I took 2 pics, one with flash and one without. This is about as good as a pic is gonna get.

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/nathall_1/scratch-1.jpg)

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n132/nathall_1/scratch-2.jpg)
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: nat on January 16, 2008, 04:51:41 PM
BTW, I cleaned the disc thoroughly with my usual routine and it didn't help.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 04:58:50 PM
Have you tried using some kind of lotion on it like I described?
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 05:02:04 PM
That could be the problem,but sometimes on games too they place the actual game data closer to the center,not farther out.Either way,its not so bad that it couldn't be buffed out by a industrial cd buffer. The NLR stores use lite to medium ones,but ones like the GXC in Conway have heavy duty ones that use water and work worlds better.

Let me know if you need me to get it done for you.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 05:04:03 PM
Have you tried using some kind of lotion on it like I described?

While that will help fill in some scratches,your leaving chemicals on the disc that could alter from heat created by the system. This could cause undesirable affects. The 100 percent best way is to just have the disc resurfaced and polished.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: nat on January 16, 2008, 05:05:19 PM
Let me know if you need me to get it done for you.

thanks for the offer, I will take you up on that if I can't find a local source.

Have you tried using some kind of lotion on it like I described?

Not yet, I'll try it tomorrow. We actually have Eucerin around here somewhere so I'll use that.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 05:08:43 PM
Not yet, I'll try it tomorrow. We actually have Eucerin around here somewhere so I'll use that.

Eucerin lacks perfumes and colors many lotions have which is why I personally use it.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 05:13:52 PM
Not yet, I'll try it tomorrow. We actually have Eucerin around here somewhere so I'll use that.

Eucerin lacks perfumes and colors many lotions have which is why I personally use it.

Yes,true,but it could contain other chemicals that can increase oxidizations in certain plastics. Whats good for the skin isn't always good for plastics. Same goes for plastics,whats good for them isn't always so great for our skin.Different chemical needs.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 05:30:52 PM
Not yet, I'll try it tomorrow. We actually have Eucerin around here somewhere so I'll use that.

Eucerin lacks perfumes and colors many lotions have which is why I personally use it.

Yes,true,but it could contain other chemicals that can increase oxidizations in certain plastics. Whats good for the skin isn't always good for plastics. Same goes for plastics,whats good for them isn't always so great for our skin.Different chemical needs.

Wouldn't a re-surfacing of the disc remove this material anyways?  And the disc already doesn't play.  I've used it a lot on discs without a problem myself.  It doesn't burn them like my perfume will.
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 06:30:31 PM
It wouldn't "burn" them,but oxidation can make the plastics brittle or unreadable due to a change in the plastics over a long period of time. Its best if in the long run if he values the disc,to just wait and have it resurfaced. Sometimes the quickest fix isn't always the best,just a temporary one that can cause problems later. If he intends on using any kind of filler cream its best to use car polish creams and others engineered towards plastics. Novus also makes good plastic fillers,polish and cleaners compounds for these purposes. They are popular amongst laserdisc users due to this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NOVUS-123-KIT-PLASTIC-RESTORER-SCRATCH-REMOVER-CLEANER_W0QQitemZ150206072578QQihZ005QQcategoryZ11702QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: discdoctors....
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 06:32:42 PM
I'm glad Ape Escape 3 is a relatively new and sort of unwanted game though, I can replace it unlike an old rare game if I can't fix it.