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Title: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 05:28:44 PM
Tom Cruise goes crazy and stuff...again :lol: (http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress)

What drugs is this guy on?  He has totally lost his mind!
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 16, 2008, 05:31:40 PM
Tom Cruise goes crazy and stuff...again :lol: (http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress)


Again? He's been batshit crazy for a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGG time.

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What drugs is this guy on?


Scientology.

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He has totally lost his mind!


that's their goal.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 05:44:32 PM
KSW? 

"Borgs are there to help." ???  (He says it twice.)

"I won't hesitate to put ethics on someone else, because I put them ruthlessly on myself.  And I think that I respect that, in others, and that I'm here to help.  And they're there to help."  (normally people like this are called a$$holes)

SP? :-k

"I just go through that tech, it's not how to run from a SP, it's PTSSP how to shatter suppression, how to confront shatter suppression."  WTF??

I think he is speaking martian speak.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 16, 2008, 05:49:47 PM
He's speaking scientology. they change your vocabulary to the point that it is very hard to think outside their box.

for example, when a scientologist says 'ethics' they mean "the actions an individual takes on himself to ensure his continued survival across the dynamics." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(Scientology)) which is not what ethics means to the rest of us.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: MissaFX on January 16, 2008, 06:02:29 PM
I just did some wiki reading...so Tom Cruise is a SP according to scientology:

The Church's official glossary defines a suppressive person as being:

a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous. Also called antisocial personality.[6]
The Church regards these "antisocial personalities" as being those "who possess characteristics and mental attitudes that cause them to violently oppose any betterment activity or group,"[1] This concern with "groups" continues in the official Scientology Handbook, which states the corollary: "The antisocial personality supports only destructive groups."[7]

According to Hubbard, suppressive persons have a number of distinct characteristics:

1. He or she speaks only in very broad generalities.
2. Such a person deals mainly in bad news, critical or hostile remarks, invalidation, and general suppression.
3. The antisocial personality alters, to worsen, communication when he or she relays a message or news. Good news is stopped and only bad news, often embellished, is passed along.
4. A characteristic, and one of the sad things about an antisocial personality, is that it does not respond to treatment or reform or psychotherapy.
5. Surrounding such a personality we find cowed or ill associates or friends who, when not driven actually insane, are yet behaving in a crippled manner in life, failing, not succeeding.
6. The antisocial personality habitually selects the wrong target.
7. The antisocial personality cannot finish a cycle of action.
8. Many antisocial persons will freely confess to the most alarming crimes when forced to do so, but will have no faintest sense of responsibility for them.
9. The antisocial personality supports only destructive groups and rages against and attacks any constructive or betterment group.
10. This type of personality approves only of destructive actions and fights against constructive or helpful actions or activities.
11. Helping others is an activity which drives the antisocial personality nearly berserk. Activities, however, which destroy in the name of help are closely supported.
12. The antisocial personality has a bad sense of property and conceives that the idea that anyone owns anything is a pretense, made up to fool people. Nothing is ever really owned.[8]

I think Tom fits most of the criteria.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 06:18:51 PM
This LOH technology Tom brings to the table must be pretty weak compared to old 80ies NEC technology. Seriously,most of us here,even Grumpy Smurf Zeta seem happier and more stable mentally then any scientolgist. Plus the gaming hobby is more rewarding to pour money into then getting better Thetan levels.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Tatsujin on January 16, 2008, 06:19:47 PM
for me, he always was "tom curious".
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 06:28:24 PM
I wonder if L Ron Hubbard made a joke, and it turned into this thing that went WAY TOO FAR and he couldn't back out.  :-k
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 16, 2008, 06:40:25 PM
Well,he was a sci-fi writer..... All this talk about creating new realities. I think Philip K Dick should have nutt kicked Hubbard. He was a far better sci-fi writer,even on drugs you could understand wtf he was writing about,it made sense.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 06:41:50 PM
Well,he was a sci-fi writer..... All this talk about creating new realities. I think Philip K Dick should have nutt kicked Hubbard. He was a far better sci-fi writer,even on drugs you could understand wtf he was writing about,it made sense.

Philip K Dick rules, hands down. Orson Scott Card = OVER RATED.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 16, 2008, 06:52:03 PM
Best religion based on science fiction: Cthulhu worship  8)
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 16, 2008, 07:03:09 PM
Rob Hubbard once said (paraphrasing) "The best way to become a millionaire is to invent a religion".
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 16, 2008, 07:08:13 PM
Flying Spaghetti Monster pwns everything.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: nodtveidt on January 16, 2008, 11:38:01 PM
Rob Hubbard once said (paraphrasing) "The best way to become a millionaire is to invent a religion".
And hence...Scientology was born.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Necromancer on January 17, 2008, 03:56:54 AM
Scientology = legitimate cult (as close to legitimate as any cult can be, anyway).  Cruise and the other whack-jobs make the Jehovah's Witnesses look like frickin' geniuses.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: MissaFX on January 17, 2008, 04:15:32 AM
We can brainwash faster than the Russians (20 secs to total amnesia against three years to slightly confused loyalty).» — L. Ron Hubbard, HCO Technical Bulletin of 22 July 1956
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: rainbow_bright on January 17, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
Its not any crazier than any other belief system or religion. I like the guy.

Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: MissaFX on January 17, 2008, 09:40:36 AM
Its not any crazier than any other belief system or religion. I like the guy.


Did you watch the video I linked though?  If he isn't on drugs, the laughter sure seems forced.  And he honestly believes that every Scientologist is better than every non-scientologist (as he says in his video).
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: nat on January 17, 2008, 10:14:22 AM
Tom Cruise is a f*cking whackjob, end of story.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 17, 2008, 06:26:41 PM
Quote from: Necromancer

Cruise and the other whack-jobs make the Jehovah's Witnesses look like frickin' geniuses.


Carerful.  ParanoiaDragon is one of those. 

Quote from: Missa

the laughter sure seems forced


He's an actor, of course he's forcing it.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Necromancer on January 18, 2008, 02:46:32 AM
Carerful.  ParanoiaDragon is one of those. 

My apologies to P.D. and any other J.W.s around.  I find their beliefs to be pretty far out there, but to each his (or her) own.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: rainbow_bright on January 18, 2008, 12:18:10 PM
Shit..this whole existence is far out. What is it? why, how ..You know. The whole thing is crazy.

Just be kind to eachother.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 18, 2008, 12:29:04 PM
You know what is awesome? This video is hosted by Gawker (who hosts Kotaku) and they say they aren't removing the video.

Let's hope Scientology sues Gawker and Kotaku goes down forever!!
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 18, 2008, 02:51:26 PM
I had my kids watch it to see what they thought. My daughter came up with this:
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/tomcruse.jpg)
My daughter was drawing this composite of Tom the entire time.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 18, 2008, 02:54:26 PM
Carerful.  ParanoiaDragon is one of those. 


My apologies to P.D. and any other J.W.s around.  I find their beliefs to be pretty far out there, but to each his (or her) own.



Hey, at least the JW have their own .
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 18, 2008, 04:11:14 PM
The witnesses have been predicting the end of the world was imminent since the 20s.

If PD is one, I feel sorry for him, since he gets no presents. party poopers.  :cry:
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Michael Helgeson on January 18, 2008, 05:45:45 PM
Baptist,Pentecostal,Jehovah Whiteness,Catholic,the end factor is the worship of God,and the teachings of Christ,Bible,ect,no one faction is better then the other. I have no problems with anyone following these beliefs. Scientoligist however,I don't think I could ever get along with or relate to them. They are following a dead guys teachings who wrote sci-fi and was involved in tax fraud,had expensive yachts  filled with well built young men,ect...
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 18, 2008, 06:02:45 PM
the end factor is the worship of God,and the teachings of Christ,Bible,ect,no one faction is better then the other.

Yeah, they're all equally false.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Keranu on January 18, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
the end factor is the worship of God,and the teachings of Christ,Bible,ect,no one faction is better then the other.

Yeah, they're all equally false.
Or they're all corruptions of the original message of Islam  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: .
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 18, 2008, 07:22:35 PM
but judaism and christianity came first...  [-(
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Keranu on January 18, 2008, 07:40:16 PM
but judaism and christianity came first...  [-(
Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them) were Muslims (ones who submit to the one god) before they were called Jews and Christians :) .
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: guyjin on January 18, 2008, 07:43:51 PM
 :roll:
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: TR0N on January 18, 2008, 07:52:05 PM
Who gives a shit what tom curse is ranting about.

We all know he belongs to a cult even if he is in denial about it.

I think it's time he got over his midlife crisis and get back to acting.

Shesh.......
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Keranu on January 18, 2008, 07:54:12 PM
:roll:
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 18, 2008, 07:57:37 PM
I think it's time he got over his midlife crisis and get back to acting.

f*ck no dude, his acting is just as bad.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: TR0N on January 18, 2008, 08:08:40 PM
I think it's time he got over his midlife crisis and get back to acting.

f*ck no dude, his acting is just as bad.
He might not be much of a actor but that would shut him up.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 18, 2008, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: Keranu

Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them) were Muslims


There is no way that Jesus was an evil terrorist.  Suicide bombing isn't even mentioned in the bible, so he couldn't have been Muslim.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 18, 2008, 08:13:28 PM
The only good religion is edible tentacle religion!

http://www.venganza.org/about

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

Seriously, this is great stuff.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Joe Redifer on January 18, 2008, 08:33:37 PM
That is great stuff. 

I love how the lack of pirates is causing global warming.  You can make charts to prove any point!
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Keranu on January 18, 2008, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: Keranu

Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them) were Muslims


There is no way that Jesus was an evil terrorist.  Suicide bombing isn't even mentioned in the bible, so he couldn't have been Muslim.
Dude, Jesus invented the suicide bomb!
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Kitsunexus on January 18, 2008, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: Keranu

Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them) were Muslims


There is no way that Jesus was an evil terrorist.  Suicide bombing isn't even mentioned in the bible, so he couldn't have been Muslim.
Dude, Jesus invented the suicide bomb!

Jesus and Muslims are not tentacles, so they fail.
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: Arjak on January 21, 2008, 12:27:01 PM
The only good religion is edible tentacle religion!

http://www.venganza.org/about

http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

Seriously, this is great stuff.


LMFAO! That is some great stuff! I want to join that religion! If only to prove the point that some people will blindly believe anything, no matter how stupid.

We must destroy those ravioli-worshiping infidels! :twisted:
Title: Re: Tom Cruise and his new video
Post by: ceti alpha on January 22, 2008, 05:08:46 AM
I'll embrace Scientology only if Tom Cruise sports a mustache for the rest of his life.