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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: Beld VanGuard on February 15, 2008, 02:19:22 PM
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Hello, I recently found this site, and it's a great boon to know we Turbo fans have a community, I wish I found it sooner!
Anyways, I recently acquired my first Duo (been playing my T-16 for like 15 years though) so I'm beginning my collection of CD and SCD games.
A collector from evilbay recently contacted me, and he has some very rare titles in pristine condition, however the prices are a tad steep and I can only afford one.
So I was wondering from you more experienced gamers, especially those of you who own any of the following titles, which you would get if you could only have one and why. For the record, I enjoy all game types except sports games, so genre doesn't come into play with me really. I've been leaning toward more RPG's and Shooters tho.
Appreciate the input!
The titles are
Cotton
Exile II
Dungeon Explorer II
Also one quick addition, how much does a good copy of Neutopia II with a case (I assume a repackage since it doesn't come with one) usually run?
Thanks again, and nice to meet you all
-Beld
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Of those three games I would recommend Cotton.
Just so you know, these games in their US version are insanely over-inflated. I'm sure this guy probably wants like...$100 for them or some such shit. Buying the US releases of Exile II and DE will have some benefit in the English audio tracks, but Cotton is almost the same thing as a Japanese PC Engine release.
If you are willing to put up with Japanese, you could have all three of those games as imports for less than the price of what some people pay for just one of them as US releases.
DEII doesn't even have much text in it. Exile has some pretty nice dubbed cinematics though. Possibly the best voice acting of any dubbed game.
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I'd watch it if someone on Ebay contacted you. Kinda unorthadox. Scams abound...cover your ass...
and BTW..welcome : )
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A Neutopia II in a Hucard case will normally cost you anywhere from $25 to $60. Any more than $60 and you're getting ripped off. Neither Exile II nor Cotton are "rare", they are "uncommon" (some might debate the rarity of Exile II though). Dungeon Explorer II is considered "rare". None of the above mentioned titles are "very rare". Expect to pay a decent price for Dungeon Explorer II, probably in the low $100 range. Exile II and Cotton can be had for $60-$90...any more and it's a ripoff. Neither pop up on ebay very much, not because of their rarity but because no one really wants to part with them; they're amongst the gems of the US collection.
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Dungeon Explorer II is by far the strongest title on that list. It's one of the best action-RPGs for the system, and it has one of the greatest soundtracks ever. And it's worth owning the English version to appreciate just how cool and creepy the villain is and to avoid missing out on sidequests.
Cotton is a pretty good game but it's ultimately forgettable, and there are many better shooters available for the Duo. Like Zeta was saying, it's pointless to spend a lot on the expensive US version (unless you're intent on collecting every US release). You can even view the text during the between-stage intermissions in English in the JP version.
Exile II is barely mediocre and certainly not worth big bucks.
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Ah it's not a scam, he's a collector who watches all the turbo auctions going on, and saw me lose one for Vasteel that I was winning all week, and let me know he had one for sale. Sold it to me for a very nice price and has a bunch of custom pictures for stuff i've asked about. His ebay acct has a nigh flawless rating too, so no worries, I'm safe.
I've never played either of the Exile games (#1 is in the mail, and I've seen the youtube vid for it, looks very cool) and I've heard #2 was cool. He is asking a bit for them all, I'm not a crazy english only collector or anything, I just don't wanna miss anything, as has been pointed out by some of you.
So Cotton loses NOTHING in the Japanese version as opposed to the English one? Does it have a different title? I don't believe I have ever seen Cotton for sale anywhere, in either format.
The DE II is complete and in english, and from my research it seems like that one always fetches a high price tag.
Sounds like I should pick DE II for several reasons....anymore feedback is appreciated tho!
Thanks again
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Oh, one more quick question.
I had heard Cotton and DEII were "very rare" games, although Rover from what I've been reading on the forums really knows his stuff.
Is there a post that has the titles separated into "rarity" categories? That could help me in the future before making anymore purchases.
Thanks
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So Cotton loses NOTHING in the Japanese version as opposed to the English one? Does it have a different title? I don't believe I have ever seen Cotton for sale anywhere, in either format.
JapanGameStock is selling the JP version for about $36. And that's probably a little high; I'm pretty sure I purchased mine for less than thirty (although this was years ago).
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From personal talks/dealings on this site...Rover, Nat, runin, are excellent people to ask specifics, and are very helpful. Not rying too slight anyone else, but these guys I have dealt with, and have helped me with many of these questions. :)
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So Cotton loses NOTHING in the Japanese version as opposed to the English one? Does it have a different title? I don't believe I have ever seen Cotton for sale anywhere, in either format.
No, infact the Jpn version has recorded voices and you can select the text to be in English, thats the only differences i can think of.
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Yeah DEII is the clear winner here.
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Welcome aboard!
The Old Rover is spot on with his price quotes - of the three games, I'd pick DEII. Cotton and Exile: W.P. are merely mediocre games within their respective genres, but DEII is outstanding. It's a fairly long quest, is multiplayer, sports a fantastic soundtrack, and is eminently replayable using different characters.
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I'm probably the only person here who would pick cotton out of those three, thats because my favorite type of games are shooters and side scrolling action games, it has the makings of a great shooter, good graphics with great effects and lots of colors, good sound with with great sound effects and music but its the gameplay that keeps it from being a top class shooter, your character is large and your put in some pretty tight situations, it just feels a little off for some reason.
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Hello dude :) I would recomend DE2. Especially if you liked the first one. I'd say to expect to pay anywere from $50-$120 for it. Cotton is a good shooter, but not that fun imo. Cotton usually goes for $60 and up. As for Exile 2, you might not like it. Its SUPER hard for some reason. It usually sells for $40 and up. If it has that card that goes around the cd case, expect to pay a lot more.
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You should get China Warrior, it's cool.
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Exile: WP sold for $100-$150 three times in the last few months.
Cotton (sealed, mind you) $60-$70.
DEII was always right around $80-$100. There have been a 2 copies without manuals that were around $30.
I think most new collectors would consider anything under $100 for E:WP or DEII to be a score.
I have all three games and I think each one of them is awesome. I won't suggest how you spend your money - just giving you an accurate idea of what to expect on Ebay at this moment in time.
Don't let anyone suggest to you that Cotton is not a great game. Look at the video footage - if that style appeals to you, you'll love playing Cotton.
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Cotton is better on the SNES.
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The graphics are awesome on the Turbo CD version and the game play is stylized but you'll learn it quick. The music is top notch too. You just can't beat the 1991 style.
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You should get China Warrior, it's cool.
I've had China Warrior since 1996 sir, way ahead of you lol.
I can't beat that damn game to save my life though. I remember there being some guy wearing a blue dress/shirt thing at the end of the third or fourth level, I beat him like....1 time, and only because I had like 4 life bars saved up lol. Saw the cave level once, and got owned by the second guy =(
Damn hard game
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Ah I've wanted Cotton since I saw the video on Youtube, I do indeed love the style, and I heard it's actually a very hard shooter, and I tend to hate myself, so I must have it heh.
However he is asking quite a bit more than 60 bucks for it, so I'll have to pass on it for now, plus it sounds like I'd be just fine with the Japanese one. Now the problem is finding one (and not finding a ton of shirts and spools of cloth and cotton on ebay while searching for it heh)
I'm hearing some mixed stuff on Exile II now, price and rarity wise, and ebay isn't much help, only 1 copy in english up, and it's from some ripoff store so, that's very unhelpful heh. Probably gonna go with the masses and go for DEII. It's slightly over a C bill but that seems close to the normal, and that includes shipping, so, I should take my good fortune of finding a complete one and run with it I suppose. He has another copy with a photocopied manual he'll let go a bit cheaper, but the collector in me is telling me not to be a cheapskate and just get it heh.
So anyone got a Japanese copy of Cotton for sale? =p
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So anyone got a Japanese copy of Cotton for sale? =p
I told you where you could find one earlier in this thread.
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Ah apologies, totally missed that post. Thanks
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Hi Beld, welcome to the forums.
I'm a little late on this one (was away all weekend), but I'm gonna throw in another vote for Dungeon Explorer II. I just skimmed the rest of the thread, so I apologize if I'm repeating 342 other users, but don't pay much more than $100 for it or you're just feeding someone's greed. And if you're paying that much, make sure you're getting a first-run print with the color manual. (There was a second run with a B/W manual.)
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Ok, the masses have spoken, DE II is in the mail as of tomorrow along with the other goodies.
Appreciate all the input and advice. I'm paying slightly over $100 for it, but all his prices are including shipping etc, so it's about right in the end.
Now if I can just win those auctions up for Cotton and Exile II i'll be good to go until someones suggests something else I should buy heh.
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DEII was definately the way to go, second I would look at Exile II, as it is a great game, with awesome voice acting and superb graphics. Cotton, nothing against it, as it is an ok game, but I think you would be dissapointed with it. I would rank that lower than Terraforming in my top SCD shmups. Anything over $30 would be sickening to your wallet!
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DEII was definately the way to go, second I would look at Exile II, as it is a great game, with awesome voice acting and superb graphics. Cotton, nothing against it, as it is an ok game, but I think you would be dissapointed with it. I would rank that lower than Terraforming in my top SCD shmups. Anything over $30 would be sickening to your wallet!
I've heard Terraforming is one of the best (and rarest) games for SCD. Is it not good? I know NOTHING about it.
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I've heard Terraforming is one of the best (and rarest) games for SCD. Is it not good? I know NOTHING about it.
Anyone who claims Terraforming is one of the best SCD games is out of his mind. It's as mediocre as shooters come. Half of the stages have very impressive background graphics and the music is nice enough, but the gameplay is dull, with little to occupy one's attention aside from wave after wave after wave of boring enemies. Also, the bosses are mostly lame and the game isn't challenging. Cotton is much better, as are countless other Duo shooters.
Terraforming is one of the most expensive US games these days, but you should be able to get the JP version for around $30. I got it for like $20 just last year.
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Terraforming is pretty lackluster in the gameplay department.
Graphics are fantastic, music is OK to almost good at times, but the gameplay is just monotonous. I always say you can just position your fighter in one spot on screen, hold down the FIRE button, close your eyes and get to the level boss no problem. The reality probably isn't QUITE that bad, but close. But damn the graphics are nice. One visual peeve of mine is that the weapon powerups are hard to distinguish because they are so f*cking small. They're like 5x5 pixels. Blue, orange and red. The orange and red are really close in color and tough to tell apart on the fly. I always pick up the red one when I want the orange.
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DE II- good choice.
The US Exile II is supposedly hard as hell- but it's high on my want list as well...
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I was blown away by the intro to Exile WP. Seriously. When you put that CD in that is like NEXT GENERATION next generation gaming. I have a pretty big TV - I felt like I was sitting in front of the most giant arcade screen in the world. I loved Exile , WP is for later in the year (when it's hot out and there are crickets) but I know it's going to be an awesome play.
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yeah see that's good- scheduling your gameplay. I need to do that now that my collection has grown to what it is. Shape Shifter and Theron's Quest are going to need their own months- with their time intercut with Gate of Thunder's and a few others... (Son Son II of course!)
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The US Exile II is supposedly hard as hell
You would be correct on that, and here's why.