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Title: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Sinistron on March 07, 2008, 05:02:19 AM
No changing votes!
One week only!

Me and Nat have a little side thing on this- a loose cheap-o hucard for the winner...

some games were left off this list for being too questionable in terms of cute-em-ups (Atomic Robo-kid, Mr. Heli, Rock On, etc.)- but I did the best I could...  :-({|=
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nodtveidt on March 07, 2008, 05:10:50 AM
Air Zonk, no question. Star Parodia is good but just doesn't compare.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nectarsis on March 07, 2008, 05:18:32 AM
Air Zonk for me...maybe it's the nostalgia offalling in love with the pics in magazines, or the funplaying when I was younger.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Necromancer on March 07, 2008, 05:22:33 AM
Air Zonk, hands down.  Magical Chase is close, but it lacks some of the magic (ha-ha), variety, and zaniness of Air Zonk.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nat on March 07, 2008, 05:23:35 AM
Why you little....
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nectarsis on March 07, 2008, 05:28:29 AM
HEHEHEHHHEEH  :twisted:
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Michael Helgeson on March 07, 2008, 07:03:59 AM
You all are chumps,L-Dis is clearly the best one. Vote L-Dis only.  :evil:
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: ceti alpha on March 07, 2008, 07:15:16 AM
PARODIUS ftw. I almost didn't vote for it just because it's an arcade port and not indigenous to the PCE, but screw it. I almost like this game better than the game it's parodying. 
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: spenoza on March 07, 2008, 07:16:00 AM
There are a lot of awesome games on the list, and while I think a couple are better games than Magical Chase, I think as a cute 'em up Magical Chase has a little extra cute sparkle.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Kitsunexus on March 07, 2008, 07:17:29 AM
PARODIUS ftw. I almost didn't vote for it just because it's an arcade port and not indigenous to the PCE, but screw it. I almost like this game better than the game it's parodying. 

MegaWord.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: shubibiman on March 07, 2008, 08:09:59 AM
This is certainly the hardest poll to vote for. So many of these games are so great.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: runinruder on March 07, 2008, 08:51:54 AM
If I were to construct a list objectively of the greatest HuCards ever made, Parodius would rank way, way up there.  It's the complete package, and it's the only game on this list that I consider excellent. 
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 07, 2008, 10:00:17 AM
Nothing can beat Toilet Kids.  That game is just TOO GOOD!  In fact, I think it's pure awesomeness works against it since most humans were not designed to handle that much greatness and they break.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Turbo D on March 07, 2008, 10:34:08 AM
I voted AirZonk as the best of that list. Although I think of AirZonk as cool instead of cute.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: guyjin on March 07, 2008, 12:46:58 PM
Nothing can beat Toilet Kids.  That game is just TOO GOOD!  In fact, I think it's pure awesomeness works against it since most humans were not designed to handle that much greatness and they break.

Pedo.
Also, any real sega fan would have voted for Fantasy Zone.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Keranu on March 07, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
Star Parodia has struck a chord with me ever since I first played it.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: awack on March 08, 2008, 05:29:21 AM
I agree with Shubibiman, this was hardest decision so far with games like cotton, magical chase, air zonk, parodius and star parodia, in the end it came down to cotton and mag chase, i went mag chase.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 08, 2008, 08:59:14 AM
Does anyone know where the English translation of Hana Taakadaka!? came from? I'm not saying its wrong or anything, but "Super Long-nosed Goblin" doesn't seem right. The "super" part specifically is mysterious.

Is there an export arcade version of this game that had that name by any chance?

More accurate translations, as far as I can tell, would be something like, "Its Long Nose!?" or something like that. Maybe, "WTF, Long Nose!?". I don't see "goblin" or "super" in there anywhere.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Black Tiger on March 09, 2008, 05:47:21 AM
Nothing can beat Toilet Kids.  That game is just TOO GOOD!  In fact, I think it's pure awesomeness works against it since most humans were not designed to handle that much greatness and they break.

Pedo.
Also, any real sega fan would have voted for Fantasy Zone.

Any real Fantasy Zone fan wouldn't have voted for Fantasy Zone.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: MurderDate on March 09, 2008, 11:48:05 AM
I've been playing Ordyne today.  I think it's great.  I know it's not the most popular game on this forum but I think it is an important game in the TG16 library.  The graphics are awesome - the epitome of it's time.  Some of the music is fantastic too.  This game wasn't even on my want list - I just ended up with it - now I'm glad I have it.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: MissaFX on March 09, 2008, 10:03:26 PM
I play Cotton on the PSX as God himself intended.
(http://www.digitpress.com/columns/images/psxshmup_cotton100.jpg)
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nat on March 10, 2008, 04:31:16 AM
Cotton on the Turbo seems like a pretty fantastic port, how is the PS1 version better?
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Necromancer on March 10, 2008, 04:50:43 AM
I play Cotton on the PSX as God himself intended.
(http://www.digitpress.com/columns/images/psxshmup_cotton100.jpg)


Wrong!  ](*,)

Cotton on the Turbo seems like a pretty fantastic port, how is the PS1 version better?


It isn't.  Especially not Marchen Adventure Cotton 100%, which is a port of the SNES game.  However, the PS port of Fantastic Night Dreams is just as good as the PCE version and damn near arcade perfect.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: awack on March 10, 2008, 06:31:51 AM
Cotton for the pc engine is an amazing port, a port i thought would not have been impossible if i hadn't played it.

The best way to explane it is to compare it to the closest thing on a rival system, cotton 100% for super famicom which has allot of the same effects and similar sprites, for example, where is a effect such as lightning, dragon or an explotion might have around 7, 8 and 5 frames in cotton 100%, there will around 22, 26 and 11 in cotton for the pc engine, as well as some of the sprites being far better animated and so on.

Its truly superb, infact you can make a comparison on how Dracula xx compares to Rondo, both pc engine games, both are Super Cd's and both Super Famicom games are 16 MB, which is huge for a rather short action game and a shooter although the cuts in Dracula xx animations, details and such are far, far worse.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: MissaFX on March 10, 2008, 09:02:57 AM
I play Cotton on the PSX as God himself intended.
(http://www.digitpress.com/columns/images/psxshmup_cotton100.jpg)


Wrong!  ](*,)

Cotton on the Turbo seems like a pretty fantastic port, how is the PS1 version better?


It isn't.  Especially not Marchen Adventure Cotton 100%, which is a port of the SNES game.  However, the PS port of Fantastic Night Dreams is just as good as the PCE version and damn near arcade perfect.


Well when I got it back in the day for 25 bucks including shipping I was pretty dang excited.  Although back then I never dreamed I would actually ever own PC-E hardware
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Sinistron on March 10, 2008, 09:21:06 AM
For the record I surrendered early-  :-"

Ordered Nat a loose Skweek.  Enjoy your mediocre cart Nat!  :wink:
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: guyjin on March 10, 2008, 09:51:58 AM
I play Cotton on the PSX as God himself intended.
(http://www.digitpress.com/columns/images/psxshmup_cotton100.jpg)


more proof there isn't one.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nodtveidt on March 10, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
Any real Fantasy Zone fan wouldn't have voted for Fantasy Zone.
Why? What's wrong with the PCE port of Fantasy Zone? I think it's better than the SMS version by leaps and bounds.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Black Tiger on March 11, 2008, 12:37:22 PM
Any real Fantasy Zone fan wouldn't have voted for Fantasy Zone.
Why? What's wrong with the PCE port of Fantasy Zone? I think it's better than the SMS version by leaps and bounds.

Whenever I see self-proclaimed Fantasy Zone-fans talk about FZ games, they always trash the Turbo/PCE version.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nodtveidt on March 11, 2008, 01:10:08 PM
Whenever I see self-proclaimed Fantasy Zone-fans talk about FZ games, they always trash the Turbo/PCE version.
Hrm...I guess they prefer the less-colorful, screechy-sound SMS version then.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nat on March 11, 2008, 02:07:10 PM
Trash the Turbo version? It's one of the best arcade-to-console ports on the system, and that's saying a lot considering we're talking the Turbo here.

They best be trashing all the home versions in that case.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: ceti alpha on March 11, 2008, 02:15:30 PM
Quote
Trash the Turbo version? It's one of the best arcade-to-console ports on the system, and that's saying a lot considering we're talking the Turbo here.

They best be trashing all the home versions in that case.

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand.  :-s
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Black Tiger on March 12, 2008, 12:29:03 PM
Trash the Turbo version? It's one of the best arcade-to-console ports on the system, and that's saying a lot considering we're talking the Turbo here.

They best be trashing all the home versions in that case.

Fantasy Zone may be a decent port for an early HuCard, but its probably more like the 20th or 30th best port on the system, considering we're talking the Turbo here. :wink:

If you actually compare the arcade to the Turbo version, its not nearly as close as so many other ports to Turbo/PCE.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: nat on March 12, 2008, 01:26:10 PM
20th or 30th? I dunno about that.... I'd say it ranks a little higher than that. IMHO.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Black Tiger on March 12, 2008, 01:32:01 PM
20th or 30th? I dunno about that.... I'd say it ranks a little higher than that. IMHO.

It also depends on whether you define the quality/grade of a port strictly on how close/exact it is to the original version or if you factor in how good of a job it is considering the difference in hardware/formats.

Judging under the former rules, Street Fighter II CE is in the bottom end of PCE ports.
Title: Re: CLAWS OUT! CUTE-EM-UP CATFIGHT
Post by: Black Tiger on March 13, 2008, 01:22:31 PM
Whenever I see self-proclaimed Fantasy Zone-fans talk about FZ games, they always trash the Turbo/PCE version.
Hrm...I guess they prefer the less-colorful, screechy-sound SMS version then.

I think that its because Fantasy Zone II had already come out by the time the Turbo Fantasy Zone was released and most people haven't played the arcade.