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Title: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jboypacman on May 10, 2008, 04:03:33 AM
I was over on Play-Asia.Com looking at PC-Engine games when i seen they had a used copy of Magical Chase for sale labeled "Fan Edition".
Are there two different versions of this game? and if so what are the differences?Not that am in the the market for Magical Chase at the moment(Too pricey for me)but i was just curious being a newcomer to the PCE and such.
Thanks for any info on this everyone. :D
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: SuperDeadite on May 10, 2008, 04:52:07 AM
The Japanese game was released twice. The original print comes in a standard "old style" HuCard jewel case. Later it was rereleased with the PC Engine Fan Magazine. This version came in the "new style" HuCard case. The actual games and manuals are 100% identical though, its only the cases that are different. The PCE Fan Edition is probably a bit rarer, but they are both priced the same usually.
The US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jboypacman on May 10, 2008, 07:47:45 AM
Thanks for the info SD it explains it. :D
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: nat on May 10, 2008, 08:45:41 AM
The Japanese version (both of them) of this game is really a big, giant rip-off. You end up paying $120-$140 for a version of the game that is markably inferior to the US counterpart. If you have a good eye and a little patience you can pick up the US version of the game for as little as $25 more.
On a game like Magical Chase, when you're going to be spending over $100 either way, it's definitely worth your while to spring for the slightly more costly US release.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: CosMind on May 10, 2008, 03:49:28 PM
The US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else. http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/dare_to_compare_mc.html
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Tatsujin on May 14, 2008, 01:46:31 AM
here the cosmetically differences between the orig. and the 5th anniversary PCE FAN release:
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: oldskool on May 14, 2010, 08:08:23 AM
Sorry to pull this out of it's grave. But I find this interesting that only 2 years ago the US version of Magical Chase was "only a bit more" haha. I guess now the JP version is a steal eh?
The Japanese version (both of them) of this game is really a big, giant rip-off. You end up paying $120-$140 for a version of the game that is markably inferior to the US counterpart. If you have a good eye and a little patience you can pick up the US version of the game for as little as $25 more.
On a game like Magical Chase, when you're going to be spending over $100 either way, it's definitely worth your while to spring for the slightly more costly US release.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jperryss on May 14, 2010, 10:20:32 AM
Sorry to pull this out of it's grave. But I find this interesting that only 2 years ago the US version of Magical Chase was "only a bit more" haha. I guess now the JP version is a steal eh?
Well that's an understatement, heh.
How long ago was Dean trying to sell his sealed US Magical Chase for $600? I'm betting a loose +manual version was probably under $150 back then.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Mathius on May 14, 2010, 03:28:27 PM
The US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else. http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/dare_to_compare_mc.html
This link doesn't appear to be active anymore:(
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jperryss on May 15, 2010, 03:21:55 AM
The US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else. http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/dare_to_compare_mc.html
This link doesn't appear to be active anymore:(
-Ripple's sprite was re-drawn for the US version, looks better. -Lots of graphical changes in the first stage ().
There may be other differences but those are the only ones I'm aware of.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Mathius on May 15, 2010, 05:24:17 AM
The US Magical Chase though has quite a few differences, and is graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
please allow me to be that someone else. http://www.superpcenginegrafx.com/dare_to_compare_mc.html
This link doesn't appear to be active anymore:(
-Ripple's sprite was re-drawn for the US version, looks better. -Lots of graphical changes in the first stage (see here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbDWWhW2kSo)).
There may be other differences but those are the only ones I'm aware of.
Wish I knew first hand. I am so poor :cry:
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: nat on May 15, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Sorry to pull this out of it's grave. But I find this interesting that only 2 years ago the US version of Magical Chase was "only a bit more" haha. I guess now the JP version is a steal eh?
Well that's an understatement, heh.
How long ago was Dean trying to sell his sealed US Magical Chase for $600? I'm betting a loose +manual version was probably under $150 back then.
Correct, I picked up a US Magical Chase that was complete in box for around $165 around the time I posted that message.
Certain individuals that have since appeared on the scene decided that this US stuff is actually a lot rarer than it really is, hence the sudden price spike in a lot of the "rare" US games. It's disgusting, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jperryss on May 15, 2010, 10:14:07 AM
No biggie. I would say the differences are trivial, and given the price difference between the two, I certainly wouldn't go with the US version for the minor graphical changes.
Correct, I picked up a US Magical Chase that was complete in box for around $165 around the time I posted that message.
Certain individuals that have since appeared on the scene decided that this US stuff is actually a lot rarer than it really is, hence the sudden price spike in a lot of the "rare" US games. It's disgusting, if you ask me.
Which is why most of my library (including MC) consists of the 'cheaper' PCE versions.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: nat on May 15, 2010, 11:17:00 AM
No biggie. I would say the differences are trivial, and given the price difference between the two, I certainly wouldn't go with the US version for the minor graphical changes.
Not quite true, the first level of the game is almost completely redrawn in the US version. Beyond that though, yeah, the differences are minor.
You can find a cached version of Black Tiger's comparison piece here (http://web.archive.org/web/20080613001334/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/dare_to_compare_mc.html).
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: RoyVegas on May 17, 2010, 10:52:09 AM
Certain individuals that have since appeared on the scene decided that this US stuff is actually a lot rarer than it really is, hence the sudden price spike in a lot of the "rare" US games.
I've gone back and looked at tons of REALLY old threads since I started posting here and it's price has been talked about tons of times about how expensive it was. From what I've been able to gather it's been rising over the years, it's no recent trend. Sure there is a super spike in the price currently but people have been complaining about it's price for years here.
Anyway, I know MC always fetches $250+ and Bonk 3 HuCard is almost always $100-$150+ and I'm afraid I just can't swing that right now...as much as I'd like to, and I hate to lowball you.
I'm looking around $600 for the Magical Chase. This is as pristine as you can get. Fresh-out-of-a-case fresh (no, there is no case of these in my living room!)
So D-Lite is saying even back then it was $250 for a loosie? Yes, this MC he is selling for $600 was sealed but you get the point I think. Here is the thread I was quoting and I don't see anyone arguing with the prices listed all the way back in 2005. http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=950.0#quickreply
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: nat on May 17, 2010, 12:58:24 PM
Magical Chase (US) was easily obtained in the $150-$300 range (not sealed, of course) for, like, 10 years. To say it's price has been rising steadily for years is misleading; it was at a virtual plateau forever with relatively minor fluctuations up and down from sale to sale (of course, you'll always have the odd sale way above or below the mean). Over the past year it's gone from said range to THOUSANDS of dollars. I'd argue the term "super spike" is understating the matter, even.
Back in those days, a $300 Magical Chase was the *worst* thing we had to worry about. Of course people will always complain about expensive shit, the only difference is back then our "expensive shit" was like $300 and not $3,000.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
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Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jperryss on May 20, 2010, 11:01:25 AM
I just picked up the fan version off yahoo japan for $100
cool.... thats a fair deal. do you live in japan? or how do you shop on yahoo auctions jp?
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: PunkicCyborg on April 03, 2013, 12:08:51 PM
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Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: SuperDeadite on April 03, 2013, 01:30:09 PM
Magical Chase CD was in development, but canceled. I've always thought it was the source for the new graphics in the USA version HuCard. Like they had started to make the CD version with all new visuals and upgrades, so they kept in what little was finished.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Arkhan on April 03, 2013, 02:34:40 PM
Too bad they didn't remember to make the game better than Cotton.
:D
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: jperryss on April 03, 2013, 02:38:45 PM
Too bad they didn't remember to make the game better than Cotton.
:D
It is if you enjoy playing shooters but suck at them (like me).
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Digi.k on April 04, 2013, 01:14:27 PM
love the hidden sound option on this game.. and you get to hear a track which i think doesn't appear in the game... hmm might hook the pce up later this weekend if i get the time.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Black Tiger on April 04, 2013, 01:56:31 PM
Magical Chase CD was in development, but canceled. I've always thought it was the source for the new graphics in the USA version HuCard. Like they had started to make the CD version with all new visuals and upgrades, so they kept in what little was finished.
The hidden bgm in the HuCard game being used for a tutorial in the GBC version gives the impression that Quest had more content planned even during the HuCard phase.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Otaking on April 05, 2013, 07:31:08 AM
The US Magical Chase .. graphically superior to both Japanese versions. I'll let someone else point these out though.
I'll point out that this is incorrect.
I agree, it's incorrect. They are different graphics, but I prefer the Japanese graphics. The tetris-blocks and shit are alot nicer than the busted up wooden crap, for example.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 07, 2013, 11:29:20 AM
Hmm, I didn't realize that the differences were that extreme. I find myself not really preferring either one. I guess I like the castle in the Japanese version more, but why the changes with the main character sprite? They're so minor. I guess they wanted a slightly slightly less SD witch (the hat is smaller) but she's still pretty SD.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Arkhan on April 07, 2013, 02:04:22 PM
The pumpkin and rickety bridge crap makes the US version seem more halloweeny and retarded. The Japanese one is more just random colorful crap.
I'm not sure what the tetris blocks are really supposed to represent, but they look better.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: bt on April 07, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
For the people that own it how do you store yours? I keep mine on the shelf mixed in with the other TG16/Duo games.
I purchased a bunch of spare Card Cases, and when games like this came out, I made a custom side label for them, so they are right on the shelf (or in storage) with the rest of the "normal" jeweled case releases.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 07, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
So basically said, most peeps rage over magical chase because of the existence of its US counterpart?
Yep.
I bet if the game never came to the USA, it would barely be talked about. The moron collectors certainly wouldn't mention it because they don't actually play games, and importing is hard when you're a moron.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Tatsujin on April 09, 2013, 02:48:11 AM
and it would also be like 10x better than its rumored image is today, right?
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Opethian on April 09, 2013, 03:10:43 AM
more like ruined image
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Arkhan on April 09, 2013, 03:25:24 AM
FINAL CONSENSUS: Magical Chase isn't a bad game. Haters gonna hate. THANK YOU FOR READING, GOOD NIGHT.
THIS BAZZY APPROVED (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3025/bazzy.gif)
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Shadow on April 10, 2013, 03:13:02 AM
I actually bought the game when it came out... loved it... of course there are better games... but the combination of graphics, sound, j-style and of course now the rarity (non-collectors ignore this) makes it an amazing title ;-)
It's really buggin me that the US Version has different grafx, do I really have to get it? it would be the first US Game in my Collection ....
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: DragonmasterDan on April 10, 2013, 03:27:37 AM
Has anyone played the Japanese PC version?
If so is it using the US graphics or Japanese for level 1, the sprite, the shop, and enemies?
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Black Tiger on April 10, 2013, 03:29:10 AM
I actually bought the game when it came out... loved it... of course there are better games... but the combination of graphics, sound, j-style and of course now the rarity (non-collectors ignore this) makes it an amazing title ;-)
It's really buggin me that the US Version has different grafx, do I really have to get it? it would be the first US Game in my Collection ....
Rarity has nothing to do with amazing.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Shadow on April 10, 2013, 10:15:13 AM
I actually bought the game when it came out... loved it... of course there are better games... but the combination of graphics, sound, j-style and of course now the rarity (non-collectors ignore this) makes it an amazing title ;-)
It's really buggin me that the US Version has different grafx, do I really have to get it? it would be the first US Game in my Collection ....
Rarity has nothing to do with amazing.
wrong. at least for some crazy collectors ;-)
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Necromancer on April 10, 2013, 10:23:02 AM
Crazy sounds about right. Either a game is fun or it isn't.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Digi.k on April 10, 2013, 11:19:10 AM
I for one enjoy Magical Chase, But its really not that great of a shooter, Arkhan is correct give me Cotton over Magical Chase any day.
For the people that own it how do you store yours? I keep mine on the shelf mixed in with the other TG16/Duo games.
I just separate all the hucards from the cases and keep them in the plastic slips in a Japanese plastic container..
I really love this game. There is some hectic strategy in the way you place your star options whether you want them to stay fixed or move around including the way they fire, can be fixed or directional. The weapons and bombs you purchase also add an element to the gameplay.
And the later layered scrolling is imo just amazing for an huey shooter.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: kazekirifx on April 15, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
It's one of the first games I take out whenever I hook up my PCE these days. Maybe to others it's not necessarily one of the best shooters on the system, but to me it will always be a personal favorite.
... I actually maybe like Cotton even more, but Magical Chase is better for a casual playthrough. Cotton requires me to be more alert in order to play well.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Arkhan on April 16, 2013, 07:46:22 AM
If I want a casual playing shmup, Chuka Taisen is where its at.
mongoloid monkey dudes on clouds shooting ancient Chinese artwork! YEAH.
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: lkermel on April 17, 2013, 06:48:12 AM
Sorry, I usually don't have enough time to take part in the conversations on the forum (too much work and things going on). However, I've recently uploaded Magical Chase ads you may find interesting. They, I believe, explain how to order the Fan Edition - the double-page ad came from a PC Engine Fan I think, and the other was in a Weekly Famitsu:
http://www.videogameden.com/hucard.htm?mac
They are in the 'Omake' section, at the bottom of the review page. I can also add pictures of the PC version - but as far as I remember, it is identical to the Japanese HuCard game (even the CD tracks are identical to the HuCard game as far as I can tell). SuperDeadite, I'm really curious about the Magical Chase CD you mentioned - I have never heard about it, which is usually enough to wet the appetite for more!!!! I need to do some research on this... :)
I love when we dig out some old threads like this one :D
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: esteban on April 19, 2013, 07:08:09 PM
Sorry, I usually don't have enough time to take part in the conversations on the forum (too much work and things going on). However, I've recently uploaded Magical Chase ads you may find interesting. They, I believe, explain how to order the Fan Edition - the double-page ad came from a PC Engine Fan I think, and the other was in a Weekly Famitsu:
http://www.videogameden.com/hucard.htm?mac
...
Splendid! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Now, of course, WE NEED someone to translate the damn pages. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
I'm surprised nobody has commented on this, yet!
Title: Re: Magical Chase Fan Edition?
Post by: Shadow on April 20, 2013, 02:42:58 AM