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Title: Best of the final games
Post by: guyjin on May 14, 2008, 11:34:52 PM
1996 saw a total of 6 games released for the now ancient PC Engine, and 1997 had 2. This makes it the second oldest console to receive new releases (the oldest: the Atari 2600, which had new first party games as late as 1990, it's 13th year)

Dead of the brain really can't be considered an official release, but it's included for completeness.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: runinruder on May 15, 2008, 12:02:26 AM
Madou Monogatari, one of my favorite games ever.

Bazaru and Puyo 2 are very good.  Steam Hearts is okay.  I haven't played the others yet. 
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: SuperDeadite on May 15, 2008, 02:19:04 AM
Go! Go! Birdie Chance.  I love that game so much.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: elnino on May 15, 2008, 02:47:18 AM
Definitely Bazaaru de Gozaaru no Geemu de Gozaaru! I haven't played all of the other games but I can't imagine anyone of them to be better than O-Saru! I've been stuck in the last desert level for ages though.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Necromancer on May 15, 2008, 03:38:40 AM
I wonder which one Tatsujin will pick.  :-k  :lol:

The heady mix of a shooter and boobies made Steam Heart's awfully tempting, but I had to vote for Madou Monogatari.  The PCE's swan song was pretty sweet; these titles are all solid for the most part, though I haven't played all of 'em. 

Has anyone played both PCE and PC-FX Tekipaki?  Do they share any common elements beyond the title and characters?

Dead of the brain really can't be considered an official release, but it's included for completeness.

What's unofficial about it, other than it didn't come out until '99?  If anything, Motteke Tamago is the one that shouldn't be listed.  :-k
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Sinistron on May 15, 2008, 03:42:47 AM
It'd be interesting if you put the year of release next to each title- also you should add the two Mindrec physical releases.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: nat on May 15, 2008, 03:52:03 AM
Seconded, 100%.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 15, 2008, 04:00:03 AM
Why in the world wouldn't you consider Dead of the Brain an official release? Wasn't it released by NEC Avenue? Maybe you mean to say that because the gap between DotB and the previous game is so long that it doesn't really mean that the system was "alive" that entire time. I can see the logic in that. DotB came completely out of the blue.

Also, the Neo Geo had its last real game in late 2004, and the system came out in '90 or '91. That makes it at least as long lived as the PC Engine. For a while there I was wondering of the DC would come along and topple the geezer Neo Geo, but it looks like official games may have finally stopped coming.

Anyway, I still haven't played Madou Monogatari, so with my limited knowledge of these games I'm voting Bazaaru de Gozaaru no Geemu de Gozaaru. I love it.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 15, 2008, 04:02:39 AM
Quote from: Sinistron
also you should add the two Mindrec physical releases.

Well the thing is that if you consider the life span of the system to extend to homebrews then there is no end. Last Hope is not the last Neo Geo game, SamShow 5 Special was. And the 2600 is most certainly dead as hell despite homebrew carts coming out for it all the time.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Sinistron on May 15, 2008, 04:05:34 AM
Well the thing is that if you consider the life span of the system to extend to homebrews then there is no end.

Sure there's an end.  There's two homebrews past 95 that were physically released to this date.  End.

Last Hope is not the last Neo Geo game, SamShow 5 Special was. And the 2600 is most certainly dead as hell despite homebrew carts coming out for it all the time.

This thread is about PCE.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 15, 2008, 04:23:06 AM
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Sure there's an end.  There's two homebrews past 95 that were physically released to this date.  End.

So should we list Space Fantasy Zone since it finally physically existed this year? And if that Frozen Utopia thing came out tomorrow, would that mean the PCE lasted 20 years? If I put Toungeman's Logic on a flash card does it now physically exist, and does it become a real game that extends the "life" of the system?

This stuff is all so grey area. Its much easier to just call it at the end of official releases.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: spenoza on May 15, 2008, 04:33:58 AM
I think the Neo Geo beats out the PC Engine for 2nd place, but this timeline puts the PCE in close 3rd. I think, anyway. Someone want to double check the math?
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Sinistron on May 15, 2008, 04:52:28 AM
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Sure there's an end.  There's two homebrews past 95 that were physically released to this date.  End.

So should we list Space Fantasy Zone since it finally physically existed this year? And if that Frozen Utopia thing came out tomorrow, would that mean the PCE lasted 20 years? If I put Toungeman's Logic on a flash card does it now physically exist, and does it become a real game that extends the "life" of the system?

This stuff is all so grey area. Its much easier to just call it at the end of official releases.

Good point as far as Space Fantasy Zone is concerned- I don't know.  It isn't a homebrew though as it was programmed by NEC Avenue.  The current duplication of it is the question - also the question arises again on whether or not it was released in the past along with a pc-engine fan 'zine as reported.

Tongueman's Logic shouldn't count as it wasn't "physically released"- what people put on their flash cards is their own business.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Necromancer on May 15, 2008, 05:09:54 AM
It'd be interesting if you put the year of release next to each title- also you should add the two Mindrec physical releases.

Here's the dates (as culled from PCECP.com):

1996-03-22             Steam Heart's
1996-03-29             Puyo Puyo CD 2
1996-05-31             Virgin Dream
1996-06-28             Go! Go! Birdie Chance
1996-07-12             De Ja
1996-07-26             Bazaaru de Gozaaru no Geemu de Gozaaru
1996-12-13             Madou Monogatari - Hono No Sotsuengo
1997-03-28             Tekipaki Wakin
1997-04-16             Motteke Tamago
1999-06-03             Dead of the Brain 1 & 2
2002-09-01             Implode
2004-07-30             Meteor Blaster DX
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: nat on May 15, 2008, 05:16:05 AM
Mmmmm...... Virgin Dream.  =P~
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Tatsujin on May 15, 2008, 05:21:01 AM
logisch bazaaru de gozaaru no tatsujin de gozaaru :!:
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: nat on May 15, 2008, 05:22:34 AM
In all honesty I feel I can't even vote since I've only played 1 of these games (Steam Hearts).
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: guyjin on May 15, 2008, 05:23:52 AM
It'd be interesting if you put the year of release next to each title- also you should add the two Mindrec physical releases.

The Mindrec games are a) homebrews, and b) in english, so in my mind they're Turbo games.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Necromancer on May 15, 2008, 05:25:23 AM
Mmmmm...... Virgin Dream.  =P~

If it was 72 Virgin Dream, then would it be about Muslim suicide bombers?

logisch bazaaru de gozaaru no tatsujin de gozaaru :!:

Logical indeed.  So, have you picked up any more Bazaaru swag lately?

In all honesty I feel I can't even vote since I've only played 1 of these games (Steam Hearts).

Honesty's for suckers.  Vote like the American public: with half-assed informed opinions and blind ignorance.  :lol:
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 15, 2008, 05:28:04 AM
Quote from: Sinistron
Good point as far as Space Fantasy Zone is concerned- I don't know.  It isn't a homebrew though as it was programmed by NEC Avenue.  The current duplication of it is the question - also the question arises again on whether or not it was released in the past along with a pc-engine fan 'zine as reported.

SFZ was certainly an official development, but was never officially released, at any place or time. It may have been packed with a fan 'zine, but I could do that myself today. I could also fabricate myself a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge. I still wouldn't own it.

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Tongueman's Logic shouldn't count as it wasn't "physically released"- what people put on their flash cards is their own business.

How about a CD-Rs?
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Sinistron on May 15, 2008, 05:30:39 AM
There were a number of PCE only releases in English, and plus being CDs they don't need a converter- and though they were homebrew games- they were officially pressed up and were even sold by old TZD- the last official Turbo store.  Turbo Graphics is also PCE- It doesn't exist without it.

Since neither of the Mindrec games are listed in your poll- I refuse to take part!  :P So there- Guyjin! I curse this heinous poll!  :lol:

And yeah- since I wouldn't vote for the Mindrec games anyway- this time I am just being a tool!   :wink:
Don't tell Twiggy!
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: nat on May 15, 2008, 05:32:28 AM
Guyjin-- The King of Controversy.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: guyjin on May 15, 2008, 05:36:58 AM
So long as it's just controversy, and not drama.  :P
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: GohanX on May 15, 2008, 05:54:57 AM
Okay okay, so I have the one vote for Steam Hearts.  Granted, it's the only game on the list that I have played, but the game does rock (questionable material aside.)
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: Sinistron on May 15, 2008, 06:02:34 AM
Okay okay, so I have the one vote for Steam Hearts.  Granted, it's the only game on the list that I have played, but the game does rock (questionable material aside.)

Really? Wow. I thought the "questionable material" was the only thing rocking in the whole game.  The shooter gameplay is piss-poor.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: nat on May 15, 2008, 06:04:45 AM
I agree, to a certain extent. While the gameplay doesn't quite broach "piss-poor" territories for me, it's mediocre at best. The cinematics are all beautifully drawn however, despite overstaying their welcome when it comes to screen time.
Title: Re: Best of the final games
Post by: spenoza on May 15, 2008, 08:20:29 AM
I can honestly say I've never played a one of these.