Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Black Tiger on May 18, 2008, 03:05:37 PM
Wow, Force Gear would be really impressive as a full game. They even put effort into the sound. Too bad they never made Force Gear with a Tokimeki Memorial minigame instead.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 18, 2008, 03:08:53 PM
Too bad they never made Force Gear with a Tokimeki Memorial minigame instead.
life's a bitch :|
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 18, 2008, 04:08:39 PM
That Force Gear is pretty rad. I've invested a total of about an hour into PS1 version of Tokimeki Memorial. Had I known there was neat little things like that, I would've played some more! (Not to mention my Japanese skill was near zilch around that time).
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on May 18, 2008, 04:10:44 PM
Wow, Force Gear would be really impressive as a full game. They even put effort into the sound. Too bad they never made Force Gear with a Tokimeki Memorial minigame instead.
Yeah man. I wish Konami actually made Force Gear a stand alone full game. It would have been an excellent PCE exclusive Konami shmup.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 18, 2008, 06:45:11 PM
may someone of our pce programmer uber cracks locate the game data and isolate them onto a bootable cd-rom? that would be jawer than jawesome!! :D
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: elnino on May 18, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
How long do you have to play the uber interesting Tokimeki Memorial until you reach the 2nd / 3rd school tournament where you unlock these two hidden eggs?
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Keranu on May 18, 2008, 09:15:38 PM
Holy cow! Force Gear looks freaking awesome to the max! Some really cool graphics and effects with some outstanding sound! Gameplay looks like it would be interesting too. I wonder if Konami was ever making that into a full game, whether before or after the release of Tokimeki Memorial? Looks like way too much time was put into it to simply just be a demo. I want to know what those "Ace Pilot" and "Escape" modes are.
Did anyone notice the score initials at the end of Twin Bee? ELF (I use this one a lot actually, just to mock a dorky friend that used to use that) and KKK! Was that Konami's idea to put KKK or did the person who owns the game put that for fun? Also that Twin Bee demo had great sound too.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: rag-time4 on May 18, 2008, 09:26:03 PM
Does this mean that Tatsujin and ElNino need to bump their PCE shooter count up to 112? (signature?)
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on May 18, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Tokimeki was an Iga game(the head of the CV series), maybe we should bug him about completing Force Gear :D
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 18, 2008, 09:41:29 PM
Does this mean that Tatsujin and ElNino need to bump their PCE shooter count up to 112? (signature?)
no, only if the share of the shmups-part is more than half of the overall game (rule) :mrgreen:
Never heard of this rule (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/elnino19/diversa/d_small.png) However, we have to think about adding them to the database, not as actual games of course but as some in-games related to Tokimeki.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 18, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
here the savestates of both games, if you run the game in magic engine:
Force Gear - The 'Gradiusic' mech shooter Savestate http://homepage.hispeed.ch/gamefreak2/CD_77E5E615.zip
You, sir, will run into a tiger knee this September.
then you will get back a counter "kyûkyoku" tiger knee.. also this september!
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: shubibiman on May 19, 2008, 03:45:23 AM
Oh my barking dog! This reminds me of the uberfast shooter included in Seyia Monogatari Taikenban. Only japanese can spend so much time developing freaking awesome games just to include them as minigames.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on May 19, 2008, 03:57:31 AM
Awesome! I've never heard of these two mini-shooters and didn't get far enough along in Tokimeki to stumble upon them. Thanks to Nintega for starting this thread, and thanks to Tatsujin for the save states; I'll check 'em out tonight.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 19, 2008, 04:04:04 AM
and thanks to Tatsujin for the save states; I'll check 'em out tonight.
fortunately, i already could tried those states. unfortunately, they do not work on my Magic Engine V1.0. means of, i can't choose them from the load menu. so may be it depends on which version of ME those states were taken.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 19, 2008, 04:39:04 AM
Holly shit. There are a lot of minigames in TokiMemo, but I never ran across anything like this. Its pretty obvious that Force Gear is an abandoned project. This is very similar to the unfinished Thunderforce VI hidden in Segagagaga on DC.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on May 19, 2008, 04:41:03 AM
fortunately, i already could tried those states. unfortunately, they do not work on my Magic Engine V1.0. means of, i can't choose them from the load menu. so may be it depends on which version of ME those states were taken.
Dangnabbit! I'll try 'em out on v0.9.9b5.
To anyone interested, a new version of M.E. (v1.1.2) was recently released. Get it now!
*edit* There's a copy on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-ENGINE-TURBO-DUO-CD-ROM2-MINT-NR-IMPORT_W0QQitemZ120261416886QQihZ002QQcategoryZ139973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ending soon and for cheap if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 19, 2008, 11:30:07 AM
*edit* There's a copy on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-ENGINE-TURBO-DUO-CD-ROM2-MINT-NR-IMPORT_W0QQitemZ120261416886QQihZ002QQcategoryZ139973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) ending soon and for cheap if anyone wants it.
Good find (it's those "I don't know the title" auctions). Maybe I'll bid on it.
Edit: Nevermind -- the auction was already over. #-o
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 19, 2008, 05:50:03 PM
fortunately, i already could tried those states. unfortunately, they do not work on my Magic Engine V1.0. means of, i can't choose them from the load menu. so may be it depends on which version of ME those states were taken.
Dangnabbit! I'll try 'em out on v0.9.9b5.
To anyone interested, a new version of M.E. (v1.1.2) was recently released. Get it now!
ok, that those saves can be used, you have to make a new save state and rename the downloaded save state into the same name as the new save state was named by M.E.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 20, 2008, 01:24:23 AM
wow!! :shock: force gear is amazing!! that would have been a great shooter on our great shooter system!! :cry:
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on May 20, 2008, 03:30:22 AM
ok, that those saves can be used, you have to make a new save state and rename the downloaded save state into the same name as the new save state was named by M.E.
Woo-hoo! I didn't get 'em to work, so I'll follow your instructions and try again tonight.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: elnino on May 20, 2008, 04:36:24 AM
The music is really great! I've just played it a few minutes but that was enough for me to get quite annoyed about the mecha bumping around like a freakin' idiot when you got hit!
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 20, 2008, 05:59:13 AM
Does anyone know how to properly unlock/play these games? I'd rather just play it on real hardware.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on May 20, 2008, 06:12:39 AM
Does anyone know how to properly unlock/play these games? I'd rather just play it on real hardware.
Follow Tatsujin's link from the first page; it'll take you to a page that explains the required steps.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 20, 2008, 06:38:17 AM
Ah, cool. I can do that. And its playable from the title screen once found in-game. Thats good.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 20, 2008, 07:02:40 AM
If I ever get a hold of this game & get to this point, I'd totally upload the real-hardware usable save game cfg file using nanami's bank (http://www.zeograd.com/creation_download.php?lang=en&page=6).
Actually, can you 1) use load the game up in an emulator using the me save-state file, 2) load up nanami on the emulator, 3) and finally burn the real-hardware usable save file on the iso and transfer it over to the real hardware?
Hm... This could be a little project that I could try out. :-k
edit: corrected some wording.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Keranu on May 20, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
Whoa, never heard of nanami. That's sweet!
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on May 21, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
Alright......who's the bastard that keeps outbidding me! It better not be someone I know, cuz then it's awkward(which is why I don't like the anonymous bidder thing on ebay) but I'm breathfire, just incase you can't see my name. I thought I owned it, but, it turns out I own the Saturn version. I want this one, so I can check out Force Gear dag nabbit! I don't even have a rip of the game ](*,)
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 21, 2008, 04:08:17 PM
Ok, so some good news... :clap:
After fiddling around with a rip of tokimeki and magic engine for some time, I was able to extract the actual save file that unlocked these shooters, and create an iso image of nanami so you can write this save data to your real PCE backup memory. (Holy f*ck, manually typing in ~100 lines of hex data -- not so fun!) So now you can play this thing on the real hardware right away without having to suffer through the whole dating sim & trying to unlock the games.
I must say it's pretty damn impressive. By far the most impressive mini-game I've seen to date (I know that's not saying _too_ much, but Force Gear really could've been an excellent stand-alone game.)
Here's what you need to do:
1) Download the ISO here -- http://www.savefile.com/files/1566910 2) Burn the ISO. I used Nero, but I suppose whatever works. 3) Put the disc in your player, and on the menu, select "Restore a file". 4) Select the tokimeki file (disregard the "beast3" file, that's my end save file for KO Beast), and write it to your backup ram. 5) Then boot up the actual game, and on the title menu, select Option (オプション) 6) On the option menu, select Omake (おまけ) 7) And now you're playing on the real hardware, cause emulators are for lamers! :dance:
I guess I gotta go and get the real copy of the game now. Never really thought I'd be hunting this game down, as I have the SS version, and didn't really care for it so much.
BTW, that ISO file will be gone after 30 days of inactivity, so anyone thinks it's important enough, please host it somewhere more permanent.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 21, 2008, 06:35:28 PM
Nice job! I used Disk Utility in OSX to make the CD and it works perfectly.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: nat on May 21, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
I just really, really can't get over the fact it took 15 years for someone to discover these games.
How many other omake games are floating around the PCE library, undiscovered?
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 21, 2008, 07:20:58 PM
It just took 15 years for people here to learn about it. Given that this game was a pretty huge success (enough to be ported to SS, PS, and SFC) I'm sure thousands of people have played it.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tatsujin on May 21, 2008, 09:07:52 PM
yeah..thousands of japanese peopl for sure but nearly non uf us :lol:
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on May 22, 2008, 02:40:02 AM
That's awesome termis, but unfortunately my Duo hates CDRs, so this lame lemur has to stick to M.E. :(
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: shubibiman on May 22, 2008, 03:17:42 AM
Thanks a lot, Termis. You're the s...t!
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 22, 2008, 08:39:50 AM
Cool, good to know that other people will get usage out of the file. :D
Anyway, I actually cleaned up the save data file a bit (got rid of the unnecessary KO Seiki save file), and even wrote up a tiny readme.txt, and zipped it up to a small 35k file.
http://www.savefile.com/files/1568065
Once again, it'll be gone after 30 days of inactivity, so for anyone who wants to try out Force Gear on a real system sooner or later, grab it before it's gone.
yeah..thousands of japanese peopl for sure but nearly non uf us :lol:
Yeah, after reading on some review that there were slightly different minigames amongst the 4 different PCE revisions, I looked through some Japanese sites by searching the word "Force Gear" to make sure that this was on all the versions (However, the Japanese wikipedia faq site says that there were only minor bug fixes between versions, so I'm not sure if the minigames were actually different at all... And I have no intention of trying out all 4 editions =;). And by the search results, they definitely know about this game. It just didn't help that this game didn't appeal to westerners, as it'd be mostly random icon clicking and seeing numbers go up & down to non-Japanese readers. And those who previously reviewed it in English (even ones that were the pretty thorough like hardcoregaming 101's review) didn't mention anything about Force Gear.
Those silver-backed CDRs seem to work better than others according to some, right?
Usually yes, but not for my finicky bitch. I've tried dozens and dozens of different discs in varying brands and colors, and it hates 'em all. It either won't work at all or will park the laser in no man's land after a short while. Oh well, it just gives me a good reason to buy more games. :)
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ccovell on May 22, 2008, 03:03:03 PM
If you can't use a CDR in your Duo, but have a PCE flash card, you could use my PCE BRAM Tool ROM (http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/BRAMTool.zip) to alter your Tokimeki Memorial save file to match Termis'.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 22, 2008, 05:44:30 PM
Quote
not sure if the minigames were actually different at all... And I have no intention of trying out all 4 editions =;). And by the search results, they definitely know about this game. It just didn't help that this game didn't appeal to westerners, as it'd be mostly random icon clicking and seeing numbers go up & down to non-Japanese readers. And those who previously reviewed it in English (even ones that were the pretty thorough like hardcoregaming 101's review) didn't mention anything about Force Gear.
Tokimeki actually was kind of well known with import gamers in the mid 90s, but everyone I know, including me, played it on SS or PS. Its not really that hard to get into as a gaijin compared to other chick sims.
I really don't think that the later ports to other systems had Force Gear in it. I don't have any reason to think this other than the fact that it just looks so PC Engine-y that I'm assuming they substituted it for something else. It probably was an abandoned PCE project that just got thrown in there for the hell of it.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 22, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
I really don't think that the later ports to other systems had Force Gear in it. I don't have any reason to think this other than the fact that it just looks so PC Engine-y that I'm assuming they substituted it for something else. It probably was an abandoned PCE project that just got thrown in there for the hell of it.
Yeah, I'm sure I've seen TwinBee minigames in other versions, but I didn't think Force Gear was in the other ports either. I was just more concerned with Force Gear possibly not being in one of the 4 different _PCE_ prints.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: shubibiman on May 23, 2008, 08:25:43 AM
Thanks to Termis and Chris for all that cool stuff ;) Chris>I could not make out how to use your program :oops:
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on May 23, 2008, 08:34:26 AM
If you can't use a CDR in your Duo, but have a PCE flash card, you could use my PCE BRAM Tool ROM (http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/BRAMTool.zip) to alter your Tokimeki Memorial save file to match Termis'.
Thanks for that Mr. Covell; I'll play around with it this weekend and see if I can get 'er working.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: shubibiman on May 23, 2008, 09:50:50 AM
Just used the ISO way and it works! SO cool!
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: termis on May 23, 2008, 11:57:58 AM
If you want to use Chris' BRAM editor, here's the actual PCE save data (http://www.savefile.com/files/1570039) you can use & refer to. This way you don't have to try digging it out from the iso.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Bonknuts on May 23, 2008, 12:59:18 PM
Some hacking info on the game:
(From the title screen)
Ram $3326: 00= loop, 01= game start, $02-7f= reset, $80 = Twin bee game, $81-8f= Force Gear, $90-ff= some strange message with a pic of a boy sitting in a spot light.
Ram $3323: 00=null, 01 = menu option 1, 02= menu option 2, 03= some sort of debug screen
Update: I isolated both games and saved them, but it looks like they can't be put into a hucard format. They write to ram that the hucard format doesn't not have (some self modifying code).
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on May 23, 2008, 07:12:26 PM
Ram $3326: 00= loop, 01= game start, $02-7f= reset, $80 = Twin bee game, $81-8f= Force Gear, $90-ff= some strange message with a pic of a boy sitting in a spot light.
Ram $3323: 00=null, 01 = menu option 1, 02= menu option 2, 03= some sort of debug screen
Update: I isolated both games and saved them, but it looks like they can't be put into a hucard format. They write to ram that the hucard format doesn't not have (some self modifying code).
Can they atleast be turned into seperate iso's?? Maybe even make complete games of them, BWA HAHA! :D
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: geepee16 on June 12, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
WOW. the surprises don't stop, do they? first the ZENKI news and now this. i joined the TML in 96 and there were LOTS of hard core members there who played these types of games and no one has ever mentioned it. and....hold on, i have an idea... okay, i have this VERY cool book that has lots of codes for almost every game in the pce/pc-fx/sgx libraries through '96. i have s l o w l y been translating and testing for an eventual dump onto the much neglected pcecp.com. i've been working on this for a few months and brought it with me this summer. i am looking at the tokimeki memorial file and, among many other secrets (most meaningless unless you play the game) is something that says (hasty translation here):
"Full Power Extra Game-
First, in the second year of the Culture Festival, go to the computer lab and play "Twin Bee Returns". Then, while playing, hit pause, Up Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, II, I in that order. The area around the "jigi" (this may refer to the austomatic probes that accompany you ?) turn white indicating the code was successfully entered. Now you will be able to play at full power."
There is no mention here of the other game which means the publishers discovered later and put it in the '97 edition or didn't know about it.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Bonknuts on June 13, 2008, 10:27:43 AM
I look forward to you updating pcecp.com :D
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 13, 2008, 12:55:35 PM
WOW. the surprises don't stop, do they? first the ZENKI news and now this.
What is this surprising Zenki news?
I think he's referring to these top secret codes (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=5225.msg92025#msg92025).
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: geepee16 on June 13, 2008, 11:41:06 PM
Yes I am.
you know, tokimeki memorial was hugely popular here in japan. even my wife knows of it though she has never played it. the big questions for me now are:
1. what other versions of TM on other consoles will have something like this in this in there? 2. since we know twin bee returns was a real game, should we assume that force gear was also? 3. what else have those crafty bastards at konami done? could there be other games in a 2D computer lab hiding behind hours and hours of gameplay and lines of unreadable text?
this is really exciting. i am stil puzzled why it's not in this codebook i have (but twin bee is)
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: spenoza on June 14, 2008, 02:35:32 AM
I have one of those massive game catalogs/code books/review tomes from '98/'99. I can look through it and see if there's anything in there for some of the later Tokimeki games like for the PSX and Saturn (well, when I get home from work I can).
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: shubibiman on June 14, 2008, 08:19:21 AM
First, in the second year of the Culture Festival, go to the computer lab and play "Twin Bee Returns". Then, while playing, hit pause, Up Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, II, I in that order. The area around the "jigi" (this may refer to the austomatic probes that accompany you ?) turn white indicating the code was successfully entered. Now you will be able to play at full power."
This code will work on EVERY Konami shooter of the time ;) And yes, Tokimeki Memorial is a very well-known game in Japan, even non-gamers know about it.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: spenoza on June 14, 2008, 12:47:32 PM
It will work in every Konami game but it won't always just power you up. Isn't Gradius II the one where it powers you up all the way and then kills you 5 seconds later?
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Lochlan on June 14, 2008, 01:57:51 PM
It will work in every Konami game but it won't always just power you up. Isn't Gradius II the one where it powers you up all the way and then kills you 5 seconds later?
The Konami code? It powers you up all the way in Gradius II except for the shot which is still the default pea-shooter IIRC.
In Gradius III it will blow up your ship unless you use the L and R triggers instead of left and right on the d-pad, maybe that's what you're talking about?
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Post by: spenoza on June 14, 2008, 03:32:55 PM
Maybe it was one of the arcade games I was thinking about.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Keranu on June 14, 2008, 10:09:58 PM
In regards to geepee's second point, I think Force Gear had to be a game in full development. Just seemed like too much effort for a mear demo game to be hidden. If we can find any leads on this, that would be great.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: megane72 on September 11, 2008, 11:08:56 PM
Hi guys...
since I needed to make those saves and save states of ME working with mednafen (cause I prefer to compress my bakcups with MPC/MP3, only supported by mednafen), I finally succeded in converting them and also I remake the saves and save states for ME so you can directly access the games from the option menu in the main menu now for both games.
I uploaded the saves/save states for both emulators on megaupload (that I think will not expire soon).
Mednafen saves and savestate: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=21YSMUML Magic Engine saves and savestate: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4S32RUDH
For ME i made the saves also in old and new ME mode (see ME docs for this).
Hope to have made a nice thing for everybody.
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Post by: shubibiman on September 12, 2008, 05:29:34 AM
Thanks a lot!
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Post by: geepee16 on September 12, 2008, 09:35:53 AM
hey all...been a while since i read this thread and it may have already been mentioned but i will bring it up just in case:
i was initially surprised that these mini-games got by us and marvelled at how. true, tokimeki is not a highly playable game for non-japanese speakers yet, i can' believe that after 15 years and thousands of people in the community, no one picked up on it and here is a major reason why: i returned to greece where much of my pc engine collection is and decided the other day to peek in the instruction manual for TM and, would you believe, there it was! the game is not a secret. it is more like an announced unlockable right in the manual. i guess we all need to examine our manuals more closely. i have other TM games for the saturn and DC and guess i should probably see if there is anything there as well.
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Post by: Ninja Spirit on September 15, 2008, 01:01:38 PM
Y'know in light of Megaman 9 going back to its original 8-bit state, with Wii VC, XBLA, etc., this is a great opportunity for Force Gear to become a full game
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ccovell on December 06, 2009, 08:27:18 PM
Hey, I finally did a little poking around the game code for Tokimeki Memorial, and I've found the code in the ISO that turns off the "Omake" option in the options menu. So, I created an IPS patch for track 2 of the game CD, so you can patch the game directly and not have to worry about save states or BRAM copying.
I also added all the "voices" in the omake option and upped the time limit for Force Gear from 3 minutes to 10 minutes. (Can that last boss be killed, anyway?)
This IPS file should work with any good IPS patcher.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 06, 2009, 11:38:21 PM
Sorry for the noob question...So this is a patch for the actual game? Can I just Turbo Rip it, apply the IPS, and burn the CD? Then the omake will be on the title screen? If so, awesome, way to go!
That would be more convenient than using Nanami's bank.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Black Tiger on December 07, 2009, 12:41:02 AM
Hey, I finally did a little poking around the game code for Tokimeki Memorial, and I've found the code in the ISO that turns off the "Omake" option in the options menu. So, I created an IPS patch for track 2 of the game CD, so you can patch the game directly and not have to worry about save states or BRAM copying.
I also added all the "voices" in the omake option and upped the time limit for Force Gear from 3 minutes to 10 minutes. (Can that last boss be killed, anyway?)
I also upped the time limit for Force Gear from 3 minutes to 10 minutes.
OMFG! This is so great and awesome. :shock:
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on December 07, 2009, 03:54:20 AM
Simply awesome, Mr. Covell. :clap:
I'll finally get to play what I'm too lazy to unlock the 'correct' way.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tom on December 07, 2009, 08:16:31 AM
Chris, can you translate the hidden screen in the last option? (I assume it's a hidden screen shot, but I've never played the game)
Quote
Some hacking info on the game:
(From the title screen)
Ram $3326: 00= loop, 01= game start, $02-7f= reset, $80 = Twin bee game, $81-8f= Force Gear, $90-ff= some strange message with a pic of a boy sitting in a spot light.
Ram $3323: 00=null, 01 = menu option 1, 02= menu option 2, 03= some sort of debug screen
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: exodus on December 07, 2009, 09:50:23 AM
seconding zeta's noob question...
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ccovell on December 07, 2009, 10:27:10 AM
It's not a message; it's a song, with a name that translates to "The Sissy Boys' Poem". (This probably just means a guy who cries too much and pines over lost (no?) loves.)
The scene reflected in a window is full of falsehood. Cold darkness shuts my breast. Ah, if only you were here, I would want to give you a tight hug. Ah, if only I could go back to that time, I'd leave right away.
Manufacture and writing KONAMI CO., LTD.
Regarding noobish questions, yes, rip the game CD using TurboRip, and patch the track02.iso file using an IPS patching program. Be sure to test it out in an emulator before burning it onto a CDR!
If the patch doesn't work, then here's what gets changed (so you can try to hex edit it): Locations 24795A, 24795D, and 247960 in the ISO get patched from $9C (stz) to $8C (sty). If these 3 bytes don't match what you have in your ISO, you can always search for the byte string 9C 08 3C, and 9C 09 3C right after that. The time patch is at 1100B21, where the string (A9) 03 8D D9 3C gets changed to (A9) 0A....
There, that should be enough for everyone.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on December 07, 2009, 02:24:51 PM
Cool, I just won Tokimeki a couple days ago off ebay for $3! Looking forward to recieving it 8)
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Tom on December 07, 2009, 06:37:07 PM
Thanks Chris :D
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: esteban on December 12, 2009, 07:03:22 AM
Would one of you fine fellows point me to a video of this minigame?
I have Tokimeki Memorial, I just wish the mini-game was accessible. Goddamn.
Mr. Covell, as always, your contributions are invaluable...
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Necromancer on December 14, 2009, 03:16:19 AM
Would one of you fine fellows point me to a video of this minigame?
From the first post of the thread: &
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: MotherGunner on December 14, 2009, 07:15:37 AM
Can someone please host the updated iso of Force Gear? I missed my chance to grab it.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Ji-L87 on May 05, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Doing a bit of necro-posting here, sorry for that, but I thought a new thread was unnecessary as this existed :mrgreen:
Sat down yesterday with a rather serious intent of actually unlocking this, seeing as I bought the TokiMemo PCE version for this exact purpose. And, sheesh, I'd forgotten for just how long this games goes on.
I played a little, little bit earlier because I was curious in how the PCE stood up against the later Saturn/PS1 version and I didn't join the computer club right away, but hopefully I have a chance to unlock Force Gear still. I did get to play Twin Bee on my second year, so far so good. Doesn't help however my Duo-R is a bit under the weather and at one point actually locked up when loading in a new week :-({|=
Actually, while on the subject, is the Saturn/PS1-version essentially the same as this game or have they received changes in how the game plays out? I've yet to see any bombs show up and the bookworm girl, whose name escapes me, have left me alone - whereas I could never escape her clutches in the Saturn version.
If I manage to unlock Force Gear I'll report back. ...and probably also if I fail. 8-[
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 05, 2013, 08:37:35 PM
There are quite a few updates to the Saturn/PS version but its essentially the same game with everything redrawn for the higher resolution.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: roflmao on May 06, 2013, 03:05:49 AM
Wow, Force Gear looks pretty neat! Gradius + the Soldier series = win!
It looks like there might be an iso of just Force Gear floating around? If so, anyone care to PM me info on how to get it? :)
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: Ji-L87 on May 06, 2013, 08:23:14 AM
Ignore that, they are in this version as well :mrgreen: Got a whole bunch of them as I started out the 3rd year. Speaking of which, Yuina Himoo is pretty much mine and have occasionally "offered compliments" on my computing skills so there is still hope. Think I'm in September now, so the culture festival should be just around the corner. Exciting :mrgreen:
Edit:
Aaaand no. Nope.jpg 3rd culture festival was a live hacking demonstration - and while amusing, sadly must be considered a failure in this case. Unless it will magically appear in the menus after getting through the game.
Title: Re: Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 06, 2013, 09:24:13 AM
Good thing I decided to keep on going instead of starting a new game :mrgreen: Didn't unlock it at the culture festival, but rather after new years eve, when you're awarded in a game creation competition. I forgot about that, as I thought you sending in a game for a competition was just another quirky line of dialogue without any real meaning. Now I just have to finish the game so that I can access it through the omake menu...