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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: Lord Thag on May 23, 2008, 05:56:07 AM
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My crazy luck continues. An old friend I had not seen in some time stopped by and traded me a Neo Geo AES system over the weekend. Add that to a lucky score on ebay, and I find myself the proud owner of a very nice AES console and about twelve games for $200 (wiping out the last of the stimulus check, but who cares?)
So, I've got a bunch of the common stuff (Magician Lord, Cyberball 2020, Nam 75, Riding Hero, Super Spy, Alpha Mission 2, Ninja Combat, Ghost Pilots, Blue's Journey, Super Sidekicks 2, and something else I can't remember). So I'm REALLY happy right? Never thought I'd own one of these things.
Then, the NEXT DAY after getting the console, my cousin Kevin calls and says (I shit you not): "Hey, I just found this Metal Slug 3 Neo Geo cart in the trash. You want it?"
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Yeah. METAL SLUG 3 in the damned TRASH in 2008! How about that? It's this website. It's gotta be. I registered here, and games started falling out of the sky on my head. :lol:
So, anyways, I know there are a few Neo Geo collectors over here. What are your recommendations on what to pick up next. I'm thinking Samurai Showdown II and Crossed Swords. What do you all like on the system?
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Can I rub your head for luck?! :shock:
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crossed swords nah!
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Two of my personal favorites are King of the Monsters 1 and 2 (a bit less love for the sequel and its difficulty level). Their relatively cheap and fun, just like meth whores.
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go for teh shooters!
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my favs:
aero fighters 2
strikers 1945+
captain tomaday
shock troopers 2nd squad
last blade
last blade 2
king of fighters '98
garou: mark of the wolves
metal slug
metal slug 2
metal slug x
wind jammers (fun 2player)
sengoku 3
baseball stars 2
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Hmm, my only words of advice are.......
On The Gweeeeeen
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Lets see some pictures of that Slug 3. Was it just the cart? That is such an absurdly great find, I can't even fathom how something like that would end up in the garbage.
Definately buy these:
Fatal Fury Special ($20)
Samurai Shodown/Spirits II ($20)
+1 on the King of the Monsters games
Consider buying these:
Samurai Spirits III ($60-ish)
Samurai Spirits IV ($150 -- the US version is pretty rare and commands a higher price FYI)
Sengoku 3 ($180, one of the best beat 'em ups ever made, fabulous fighting system)
Last Resort ($150 or under, one of the best R-Type clones ever, probably my favorite Neo shooter)
Aero Fighters 2 (not sure on the price but I think it's under $100)
Never buy:
Metal Slug 1 (costs $1000 minimum and you have to be an expert to spot a counterfeit)
Sell:
Riding Hero
Ghost Pilots
(both games are seriously TERRIBLE)
Theres a ton of fun fighting games in the $100-$300 range if you're into that sort of thing. Some of my favorite fighters are KoF 98 and 2002, Art of Fighting 3, Matrimelee, Garou MOTW (under $400 for a JP copy), and probably others I'm forgetting.
Also consider selling all your stuff (or maybe just the Metal Slug 3 if it's complete) and buying a consolized MVS board, an MVS board and a supergun, or go all the way and get a cab with a nice low-res monitor.
Oh, and when you notice the horrible dot crawl (i.e. rainbow distortions in the graphics): there's nothing wrong with your system, it just has terrible composite output.
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I like Shock Troopers 1st Squad (got that recently at a thrift store for $6 + tax). Neo Turf Masters is also really good, but I nearly trip over all of the copies that are available for cheap everywhere.
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I'd recomend,League Bowling it's pretty easy to get into beside being a pickup and play game.
Not to mention fun for 2p.
Just about any other game i can think of has been mention all ready.
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Hmm, my only words of advice are.......
On The Gweeeeeen
You win this thread, dude. That's awesome to the 69th power.
On a semi-related note: has anyone here played Kabuki Clash? It's moderately priced (for the Neo0, but is it worth a shit, especially when compared to the Arcade Card game?
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Hmm, my only words of advice are.......
On The Gweeeeeen
You win this thread, dude. That's awesome to the 69th power.
On a semi-related note: has anyone here played Kabuki Clash? It's moderately priced (for the Neo0, but is it worth a shit, especially when compared to the Arcade Card game?
They are completely different games. I've not played the Neo version yet though. Personally my favorite Neo game is Blazing Star, but the AES cart is only for the true nut-cases such as myself. :dance:
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Super Baseball 2020!
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You have the AES Blazing Star? Ummmm.... dare I ask how much you paid for that?
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My personal faves on the Neo Geo:
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special
Crossed Swords (this is a classic!)
Samurai Shodown 1, 2, and 4 (3 and 5 suck huge)
Just about any KOF (94 and 2001 kinda suck though)
Yeah...I like fighters. :D
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Hmm, my only words of advice are.......
On The Gweeeeeen
You win this thread, dude. That's awesome to the 69th power.
On a semi-related note: has anyone here played Kabuki Clash? It's moderately priced (for the Neo0, but is it worth a shit, especially when compared to the Arcade Card game?
I have it's a different fighter for the neogeo.
It's not in the same league as,Last blade or Samurai Shodown far as weapon fighters go on the neogeo.
Still it holds it's own and i find it to be decent..but i'll say the boss's in it are rather cheap :P
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Still it holds it's own and i find it to be decent..but i'll say the boss's in it are rather cheap :P
Cheap SNK bosses? I don't belive it. [-(
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Still it holds it's own and i find it to be decent..but i'll say the boss's in it are rather cheap :P
Cheap SNK bosses? I don't belive it. [-(
:wink:
Cheap as a hooker that's been ridden to many times :P
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You have the AES Blazing Star? Ummmm.... dare I ask how much you paid for that?
Yes I own an original AES Blazing Star. The supermarket in my hometown had Blazing Star
in their MVS cab, and I loved playing it so much. Years later when I learned about it existing
as an AES cart, it became one of my "dream games" so to speak.
After I moved to Japan, I began collecting for the Neo. After almost two years, I finally found
a store with Blazing Star for sale, and I bought it. (I would never buy such a rare game
without personally inspecting it, so no internet shopping for me.)
I don't like thinking about money that is already gone, so I won't give you the price I paid. In
Japan prices are cheaper then ebay, but it was still the most expensive game I have ever
purchased. It was also the most expensive game in the entire store. The clerk was in absolute
shock when this stupid-foreigner wanted their most expensive game. :mrgreen:
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4839.msg88690#msg88690
Since these were posted I've also picked up Magician Lord and KoF'98.
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Magician Lord is pretty rare. I had to pay $240 for mine on eBay because they are so uncommon. JOKING!!!
I am interested in Matrimelee. I think that title is hovering around the $180 mark brand new. I recently picked up Shock Troopers 1st Squad.
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Magician Lord is pretty rare. I had to pay $240 for mine on eBay because they are so uncommon. JOKING!!!
I am interested in Matrimelee. I think that title is hovering around the $180 mark brand new. I recently picked up Shock Troopers 1st Squad.
Matrimelee is fun if you like silly games. The music is either love-it or hate-it though. (I love it myself) I'm curious about your "Shock
Troopers 1st Squad." Only the sequal "Shock Troopers 2nd Squad" had a real AES release. The first game was MVS only. Meaning
you either have a conversion, or 2nd squad....
http://www.neo-geo.com/snk/masterlist.htm
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It be a conversion, yo (but with real SNK parts from an original MVS cart). Very high quality.
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Great cart Joe, I got mine 2 years ago. It is the one cart I really didn't mind doing a conversion of at all. Did you get it from Cgame in Singapore? He does a great job.
Some great action based games you may like would be Top Hunter and Spinmaster. Those games go for around $80-$100, not too bad. I noticed your not big into the 1-on-1 fighters for the Neo, but Last Blade 1 and 2 are just really, really fun. Plays way better than most weapon based fighters.
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The original Last Blade is much better though, they kinda screwed the formula with the sequel. It just doesn't have nearly the same appeal, and isn't nearly as fun.
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Yeah it was from cgame, he does indeed do an awesome job. I'm surprised it didn't come with some sort of fabricated manual.
I do want Top Hunter, Spinmaster, Matrimelee, Blazing Star (saw the AES version down at Goodwill for $20, still thinking about it) and maybe another fighter.
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Yeah it was from cgame, he does indeed do an awesome job. I'm surprised it didn't come with some sort of fabricated manual.
I do want Top Hunter, Spinmaster, Matrimelee, Blazing Star (saw the AES version down at Goodwill for $20, still "thinking" about it) and maybe another fighter.
What da?? Huh...... :-s Warning!! Brain Meltdown!!!!
Joe???? are you a few fries short a Happy meal bro???
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I don't like what McDonald's recently did to their fries. This is the second time in their history they've purposely made them worse. I will no longer buy fries at McDonald's.
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The original Last Blade is much better though, they kinda screwed the formula with the sequel. It just doesn't have nearly the same appeal, and isn't nearly as fun.
Gameplay wise I prefer the sequel, but the backgrounds and music in the sequel just aren't as appealing as the first.
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In my opinion, the best reasons to get a Neo Geo are: SENGOKU, SAMURAI SHODOWN II and THE ART OF FIGHTING.
From there you've got WINDJAMMERS, METAL SLUG, BASEBALL STARS 2, NEO TURF MASTERS, BLUE'S JOURNEY (I guess), LAST RESORT, BUST A MOVIE (AGAIN), MAGICIAN LORD, NAM 1975... With one or two exceptions those are all cheapies (atleast on an MVS) - this group as a whole is pretty much the best early 90s creme to waste your time with outside of the TG.
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In my opinion, the best reasons to get a Neo Geo are: SENGOKU, SAMURAI SHODOWN II and THE ART OF FIGHTING.
From there you've got WINDJAMMERS, METAL SLUG, BASEBALL STARS 2, NEO TURF MASTERS, BLUE'S JOURNEY (I guess), LAST RESORT, BUST A MOVIE (AGAIN), MAGICIAN LORD, NAM 1975... With one or two exceptions those are all cheapies (atleast on an MVS) - this group as a whole is pretty much the best early 90s creme to waste your time with outside of the TG.
I agree with all your suggestions except for Sengoku (I'm not big on AoF either, but it's funny for what it is as a 2-player game). That game sucks horribly. Really, really boring for a beat 'em up, and some of the worst graphics on the Neo (I would say it looks worse than Magician Lord, but that's a matter of opinion I guess). The second one is pretty bad, too.
The third game, on the other hand, is a work of pure genius and is one of the finest beat 'em ups ever crafted.
And I wouldn't say "those are all cheapies". Out of the ones you mentioned, only Sengoku, SamSho II, Art of Fighting, and Blue's Journey are what I would consider to be consistently inexpensive. Magician Lord and Nam 1975 aren't super expensive, but both *can* be around $50 and are both somewhat difficult to find on MVS (as opposed to the home cart system, where they are both $20 games you can find anywhere) -- especially in kit form, if that's your sort of thing. (Both are excellent games, however, and should be sought out in any case)
-Neo Turf Masters is ~$60
-Last Resort is $70+ (although it's the best shooter on the system, I like it more than Pulstar and Blazing Star)
-Winjammers is ~$50
-Baseball Stars 2 is ~$40-70
-Bust a Move Again is ~$100-120 (and IMHO if you really like bust a move that much you should just buy some of the ports -- I say this as someone who owns this cart)
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Sengoku is the most atmospheric video game I've ever played. I agree it's primitive but I don't necessarily always consider that a bad thing. Outside of the amazing graphics and general design of the game , the actual game play is damn good. It's stiff just like all of the other Neo Geo games from this era - but I think using the joystick to swing your sword around and clearing the screen of the enemy is fun as hell. The game is brilliant, in my opinion. Genius. I love it. I love the graphics btw.
I can't wait to play the sequals, which graphically look awesome but don't have the same bleak/psychotic/heavenly/hallucinatory look as the first.
Magician Lord is cool and even though I don't like it as much as I hoped (yet) I won't call it disappointing (yet). but it sure is tough as balls! :o
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Magician Lord is only tough if you play it on the AES. It's easy as pie on the MVS (and also lacks the intro).
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I prefer the first two Sengokus over the third. The third one completely lost the 80's feel of the first two and it had those annoying frog enemies that took too much time to kill because they were too small.
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I prefer the first two Sengokus over the third. The third one completely lost the 80's feel of the first two and it had those annoying frog enemies that took too much time to kill because they were too small.
Whaaa? A different graphic style and a couple frog enemies will sour you on a game with a superior game engine?
Sengoku 3 doesn't have the same "feel", yes, (I will agree that the earlier games had some interesting character design) but the feel it had was great (the graphics are among the best on the Neo) and it also had a fighting system that was far, far more complex and interesting -- it's nearly as complex as a fighting game, in the best possible way -- the controls are much tighter than in the earlier games, too.
Not to mention the great character selection worked a lot better than those transformations ever did.
Gameplay >> presentation, and Sengoku 3 has them both in spades (especially the former).
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I never said Sengoku 3 was a bad game and I thought it was pretty nice, but I personally prefer the first two. Fancy complex fighting systems can be cool and all, but sometimes the simpler the better.
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I never said Sengoku 3 was a bad game and I thought it was pretty nice, but I personally prefer the first two. Fancy complex fighting systems can be cool and all, but sometimes the simpler the better.
No, you said you hated it and you hated me, so now we are sworn enemies. :evil:
Death to the heathens who would sully the glorious name of Sengoku 3!
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Senwhat?
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Sengoku is a bad-ass sidescrolling beat-em up where you travel through insane worlds battling sick creatures while morphing into samurai and ninja!
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Don't forget that you get to play as Kid Rock in the game!
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I agree with you guys on Sengoku - awesome game. They used to have it at the Chuck E Cheese I worked at as a kid. Not only was it a fun beat 'em up, it was friggin' loooooong, which made for some great marathons.
Plus, why would anyone not want to play as a metrosexual pink cowboy who morphs into ninjas and samurai? I loved the cutscenes too. Every level says EXACTLY the same engrish blurb.
Good times, I really need to find a copy.
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Sengoku you can get really cheap on AES. I got the US version for like $25. Sengoku 2 is more up there at around $100. I just wasn't much of a fan of part 3. The punch attacks always seemed kind of awkward like the electricity guy you could play as on Final Fight 3.
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best advice to give someone on here re: Neo Geo ... It's nothing like the Turo Grafx. apples & oranges - both are fruit
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Sengoku 2 is more up there at around $100.
If you can find it, that is (and for the JP version -- US version is about $50 more) -- it's one of the rarer AES titles.
(And I will never, for the life of me, understand this 2>3 mentality. You're all crazy, I say!)
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Part 3 is definitely the best (with part 1 being nearly unplayable). Still, I'd rather play Streets of Rage 1 or 2 than Sengoku 3.
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It's been years since I pulled my NEO games out of storage, but these might be the only ones I still own since I sold off most of my arcade stuff years ago:
Crossed Swords
Garou (I have a pirate/knockoff cart of the prototype roms)
King of Fighters '98
Last Blade 2
Metal Slug X
Ninja Combat (or I think that is the name)
There's good reasons though why I kept each game. Ninja Combat is supposed to be a side scroller, action game like those old Ninja Turtle kind of games where you just kill enemies over and over. I am sure you can find heaps of people willing to dump it and Crossed Swords for nothing at all. The other carts I have are more expensive though, but KOF '98 is probably a lot cheaper now than when I bought it. Why do I still have 98 and not another one? I don't remember. :oops: I remember KOF 97 being fun though as well if you want to get a cheap KOF game just to have one. The ones before 97 are not worth buying imo.
I keep wanting a mini MVS 2 slot from Japan...but even that would be hard to fit into my RV. I already took the passenger seat out of it and I have a stack of AV stuff and consoles there.
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Part 3 is shit, they give you a great complex fighting system and then half the enemies in the f*cking game are frogs or too short for you to do any combos on.