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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Sales & Trades => Topic started by: Dreamcaster on June 12, 2008, 03:37:59 PM
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**this post has been edited and will remain up to date**
i also posted this at www.rfgeneration.com (http://www.rfgeneration.com/) if you need any refrences, i am a long time member there. i have sold to a good handful of people there.
i know i am not a regular poster on this site but please hear me out for a minute. i was the seller ween_rocks on ebay and my account has recently been suspended due to ebays total lack of a brain. i sold off my tg-cd system long ago so i have no way of playing the games so they have to go. most of them are complete with cases and manuals with the rare exception of a few. if it is missing anything i will put a note. if nothing is written after the game title than the game is complete (i dont have any boxes). in relation to the games that say "comes/included with a hucard case", these are the games that were issued without cases and simply come with a official hucard case with a generic label with the games title. just wanted to clear up any confusion. you can leave a message here or email me at ween-rocksNO@SPAMhotmail.com (remove NO SPAM) with an offer or any questions. i will keep this list updated. i am verified with paypal and will also accept money orders or hidden cash in the mail. all of these games are the american versions. no bootlegs or copies. all hucards have sleeves. titles as follows:
battle royale
buster brothers
cadash
double dungeons
falcon (no manual, comes with a hucard case)
fighting street
final lap twin
gate of thunder 3 in 1 (all three manuals are there)
gunboat
hit the ice (no manual, comes with a hucard case)
jack nicklaus turbo golf (tg-16)
john madden turbo duo football
klax
magical dinosaur tour
military madness
moto roader
night creatures (hucard and sleeve only)
ordyne
power golf
raiden (no case)
sherlock holmes consulting detective vol 1 (includes the 8 newspapers)
soldier blade (no manual, comes with a hucar case)
sonic spike
splash lake
takin it to the hoop
the addams family
time cruise (no manual, comes with a hucard case)
tv sports basketball
tv sports football
tv sports hockey
world court tennis
world sports competition (comes with a hucard case)
ys book 1 & 2 w/ map regualr tg-cd version
japanese games:
cyber cross
SOLD:
jackie chans action kung fu
somer assault
new adventure island
sinistron
vasteel
forgotten worlds
valis II
neutopia II
bomberman 93
bomberman
talespin
jj and jeff
impossamole
bonk's adventure
chew-man-fu
cratermaze
king of casino
psychosis
victory run
bloody wolf
legend of hero tonma
tricky kick
turrican
ys III: wanderers from ys
bikini girls
chase h.q.
dungeon master: theorn's quest
prince of persia
dead moon
meteor blaster dx
r-type
ys book 1 & 2 (pack-in)
last alert
lords of the rising sun
samurai ghost
space harrier
valis III
vigilante
yo bro
minesweeper
human sports festival
record of lodoss war
thanks for checking out this list. and when you buy something please leave some feedabck here so others can know of my good reputation/service.
-mike
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Could ya maybe put what you like for the games or do you just take offers?
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i am just taking offers.
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i also posted this at www.rfgeneration.com (http://www.rfgeneration.com/) if you need any refrences, i am a long time member there. i have sold to a good handful of people there.
i know i am not a regular poster on this site but please hear me out for a minute.
On your rfgeneration post you said:
i know i havent been posting here regularly lately but i need some help.
So you're not actually an active member of any online community? And your ebay account has been suspended? Sounds trustworthy, amirite?
I offered this guy $25 for the loose Jackie Chan hucard and asked if he would be willing to either ship first or use someone as an escrow. (There's somebody on neo-geo I could ask and at least one person on here I would consider asking.)
This was his response:
there is no way i will be shipping first. $25 is a little low for the jackie chan game. i guarentee what i sell is what i am selling. i dont pull crap with anyone cause i wouldnt expect it back.
-mike
EDIT: I did not realize the game came with the manual, I thought it was a loose Hu
But I have his "guarentee"[sic] so I shouldn't be worried?
I wasn't surprised that he didn't want to ship first (even though it's accepted practice at, say n-g.com, some people think of it as a sure-fire way to get scammed), but I was a bit put off that he completely ignored my suggestion of using an escrow. He could very well be legit (and I certainly hope he is) but his response (and the fact that he has a suspended ebay account yet doesn't go into any detail) raised some red flags for me.
And, mike: can you provide any kind of current and/or relevant references?
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if you wanted to know why i was suspended from ebay, ask. others have and i gave them the same reply.
i was selling an ebook on ebay and they ended my listings so i put another listing for the same ebook but sold it as printed and mailed, which it was. they said i said "will receive withing 48 hours of payment" which it did not. they also said it was digitally delivered which it was not. and they suspended my account because of that. read my feedback on ebay. i dont rip people off. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=ween_rocks&ftab=AllFeedback&sspagename=STRK:ME:UFS there is an auto link to my ebay feedback. and yeah i dont regularly post on rfgeneration, but i have posted there off and on and sold/traded many times and many members can back up my excellent sale/trade behavior. here is a picture of everything.
(http://imagecloset.com/13/c7490714933213193fc79f2ecdfbb44b/tg.jpg) (http://imagecloset.com/)
i condensed a few other posts into this one post.........
i can provide pictures of any game on demand. either as a group or solo. all of these are on hand.
also i am paypal verified and always ship wit ha delivery confirmation.
also another recommendation posted very recently on the turbo list:
FS in the US
From: owner-turbo-listNO@SPAMmindrec.com on behalf of George Plamantouras (duo16NO@SPAMmindspring.com)
Sent: Fri 6/13/08 6:41 AM
To: turbo-listNO@SPAMmindrec.com
Mike Stock is a member of the List who has been having some difficulty posting. He asked me to let you know he has a big list of things for sale including Bomberman '93, Ys I & II with map, Bikini Girls and more. If anyone out there is interested, his e-mail is: ween-rocksNO@SPAMhotmail.com . I have dealt with him before. He is a good trader so no one out there should hesitate to deal with him. thanks, george
i hope i have provided enough recomendations and proof that i am legitimate.
-mike
even though the ebay account is suspended you can still "contact seller" in the menu on the right hand side. i cant reply through ebays message service but if you leave the email address visible i can reply directly to that with the sent message still attached in the return email. i can prove who i am.
also here is part of the suspension email i got from ebay:
MC005 eBay Registration Suspended: Miscategorization of Digitally Delivered Goods ( 213084470)
Dear ween_rocks(ween-rocksNO@SPAMhotmail.com),
We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been suspended indefinitely for violating eBay's Miscategorization of Digitally Delivered Goods policy.
To ensure that members can find what they're looking for quickly and easily, items need to be listed in the appropriate category. Sellers need to choose the category that most accurately describes their item.
*****Please read this important information to help you bring your future listings into compliance.
Digital goods are often reproduced at little to no cost to the seller. On eBay, this creates the potential for Feedback Manipulation. To preserve the integrity of the Feedback system, all goods that can be digitally downloaded or transferred electronically (including e-mail delivery) must be listed using the Classified Ad format in the Everything Else>Information Products category only.
i am appealing their decision, and awaiting a response. so i may be back on ebay.
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OK I looked at your ebay feedback. Besides the fact that you have more than the usual amount of negatives and neutrals, since the account is suspended (sadly) there is no way to 100% verify your identity as that ebay user (or your story, for that matter).
Personally, when doing deals, I always make the seller send me a PM on ebay or digitalpress or wherever their feedback is, because using somebody else's feedback is a known scammer tactic.
You have pictures, and you "seem" real, but there are no guarantees on the internet.
Edit: ok, that turbo list post is good enough for me, check your PMs.
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would it be nitpicky to ask for an alphabitized list?
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would it be nitpicky to ask for an alphabitized list?
"Control f" works wonders when you're looking for something, a particular game title in your case, on a page. :D
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would it be nitpicky to ask for an alphabitized list?
Excel says:
battle royale
bikini girls
bloody wolf
bomberman
bomberman
bomberman 93 (comes with a hucard case)
bonks adventure
buster brothers
cadash
chase hq (comes with a hucard case)
chew-man-fu (manual is missing front cover rest of it is there)
cratermaze
dead moon (comes with a hucard case)
double dungeons
dungeon master therons quest
falcon (no manual, comes with a hucard case)
fighting street
final lap twin
forgotten worlds
gate of thunder 3 in 1 (all three manuals are there)
gunboat
hit the ice (no manual, comes with a hucard case)
impossamole
jack nicklaus turbo golf (tg-16)
jj and jeff
john madden turbo duo football
king of casino
klax
last alert
legend of hero tonma (no manual, includes a hucard case)
lords of the rising sun (both manuals are there)
magical finosaur tour
meteor blaster dx
military madness
moto roader
neutopia II (comes with a hucard case)
new adventure island (comes with a hucard case)
night creatures (hucard and sleeve only)
ordyne
power golf
prince of persia
psychosis
raiden (no case)
r-type
samurai ghost (comes with a hucard case)
sherlock holmes consulting detective vol 1
sinistron (no case)
soldier blade (no manual, comes with a hucar case)
somer assault (comes wit ha hucard case)
sonic spike
space harrier
splash lake
takin it to the hoop
talespin
the addams family
time cruise (no manual, comes with a hucard case)
tricky kick
turrican
tv sports basketball
tv sports football
tv sports hockey
valis II
valis III
vasteel
victory run
vigilante
world court tennis
world sports competition (comes with a hucard case)
yo bro
ys book 1 & 2 (duo pack in version, no map)
ys book 1 & 2 w/ map regualr tg-cd version
ys III wanderers from ys
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Excel is your buddy (unless you are a statistics guru).
That's a pretty long list of things, there.
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His post Raised Flags for me also. I also don't like making offers. I would rather look at a set price and decide on the games I want. So I think I will skip this one. I hope your legit and get all that cool stuff sold its a nice collection of stuff. :D
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whats wrong with taking offers. just tell me which games you are interested in and what price you have in mind or if you have any "collection" games for ps2 (i.e. retro games) for trade and go from there.
you guys will see in a week or so when the couple people that i have worked deals with get their games and post that im legit. im a totally honest person. if i was trying to scam why would i tell you all upfront why/how i came about selling these games here. why would i go through all that and be so upfront. plus i have a recommendation from george on the turbo list.
i dont blame anyone for being cautious. im sure i will prove myself to everyone in time when people give me a chance.
-mike
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I have heard both good and bad about Ween-Rocks,so I am not sure what to think on that one completely,but in the end,even someone with massively solid feedback can go out in a epic rip off blaze of glory,so caution is always a solid way to approach things when it comes to a seller who's liquidizing such a large valuable collection.
It also helps to have set prices in mind as starting points because many hate to haggle over prices and deals,and avoid sales sometimes all together when this seems to be the method as to how a deal will have to be completed.
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I agree on the last part, people like to say "make offer" when they already fully have in mind what they want for a title. If they don't like entertaining offers, why ask people to make them?
This time was no different, I made an offer, and was basically told "I want this for it." Of course, the amount wanted was much higher than what I offered so I just passed.
But really, and this is a tip to ANYONE doing big sales like this, if you already have in mind what you want for stuff, just put it down on the list. You'll save a lot of people time and hassle compiling lists of games they want and offers they want to make only to be told "I want this much for this, this much for this, etc". Well, uh, why wasn't that information presented along with the game list? Luckily this time around I was only interested in 1 title so it didn't bug me too much, but I've had times where I'll spend like an hour pouring over a big list like this and deciding what I'd be willing to pay for it all only to be told, "Sorry, I want $650, and not a penny less!"
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the prices for these games waves in so many directions when you consider marketplaces. the prices i have in mind for some are high, i used to do ebay thats why. im an easy guy to work with. right now i am in negotiations on a few games with a few people. the point in offers is this:
obviousely im going to get a LOW offer. ($25 for bomberman 93.... come on its $45 no matter where you go)
i counter with a price lower then what i actually had in mind.
you in turn offer back another price.
thats the point.
i dont have my console anymore so playing these is not going to happen and having them sit here isnt going to do anything either for me.
i can understand the weariness. but i have already sold a game and that buyer got their delivery confirmation number TODAY when i shipped it this morning (they paid last night).
so sometime this week they will let everyone know i am legit.
and dont get mad if your offer is declined. im not trying to lose money. i have invested in these. i used to have EVERY game except for less then half of the duo games. i was a long time collector, im not stupid, or desperate. my lowest price is what i have in them, plus i need to make a profit and cover shipping.
i know im legit, and it will prove in time.
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obviousely im going to get a LOW offer. ($25 for bomberman 93.... come on its $45 no matter where you go)
Bullshit. Anywhere on eBay.... maybe. I got a mint complete-in-cardboard box copy in November 2007 for $30 from a non-eBay reseller. $25 if it's just the card and manual is perfectly fair.
the prices i have in mind for some are high, i used to do ebay thats why.
And that, my friend, is precisely the problem. Many folks here avoid eBay for US TG-16 gear for precisely this reason... The mentality there has spread over the past couple years, thanks to douchebag stores like GameSquad and Bullseye (thank god he's gone) putting loose Air Zonk and Samurai Ghost carts up with BINs of $100, that TG-16 stuff is somehow worth 10x more than Genesis and SNES stuff. C'mon, give me a break.
Anyway, I'm just blabbing about prices like I normally do when I see this ridiculous inflation.
As far as your reliability-- if George says you're a good trader, that's good enough for me, and should be for everyone else here. Although I never bought from you (due to the aforementioned eBay inflation factor), I've skimmed your auctions many times in the past and you seem legit enough to me.
I don't think anyone here need worry.
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This is all true- having Ebay prices in mind is fine- if you're on Ebay. This isn't Ebay. This is a specialist community where we're all a little more informed of the actual prices of these games- for the most part the sales prices on these boards reflect that- and if they don't- you'll see some skepticism.
As for "pm me your offer"- I don't think it's always a bad thing- I actually did this myself when I was selling manuals on here- but that is because I really wasn't sure what those were worth- they're not games- they're pieces of paper- however- in like 90% of the cases I asked for less than the offer. I do think it's wrong to have people pm you their offers if you have a set price in mind- it's pretty scheming. If someone offers you more than you expected to get- you can just say okay- that sounds about right. I'm not down with that. Again- and many here can vouch for this- when I did the "pm me your offer" I almost always asked for less than the offer- so I'm not a pot calling the kettle black.
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Yea typically a loose Bomber Man 93 does fetch 20-25 so Nats offer was pretty much right on. Even on ebay it gets that price. And yea ebay did inflate the prices to some extent randomly,so you have to be mindful and check as many auctions as possible on titles to see what the true average going rate is there for something. Also how often it actually sells for at that price,but more often then not the average going prices I see on ebay (minus the rip off sellers and rare price surges) are the ones mentioned as average going values in forums, or close to them. You just have to be mindful of that and always look for the best deals,and compare shop when possible if you want to save cash.
A few items do fluctuate alot,like Super System 3.0 cards US (went back and forth from $90-130,then all the sudden hit a very high point at past 170 bucks) or Japanese wise (used to be 10-15,now 20 to 30 sometimes),or Turbo Cd decks (used to be $90-100 but now on up to near $175) depending on exact condition/completeness, and supply/demand on the market,but game wise the games tend to stay at the same prices and every now and then lower in value for a bit, then go back up to normal depending on the time of the year/economy.
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From an e-mail to me, from Mike (i.e. Dreamcaster, not Helgeson):
i am not taking any loss'. im trying to turn a profit or atleast break even.
So there you have it folks, the man is actively attempting to make money off a savvy group of Turbo experts. Food for thought.
And I am the one who purchased Jackie Chan from Mike, so I will (hopefully) be posting soon about a good experience.
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Nothing wrong in turning a profit if he paid lower then the current value and is trying to get the current value,but if he expects more then that on titles then he is going to fail,at least around here. No ones going to pay more then the current value just to make him feel better,at least I hope no one does. :twisted:
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Yea typically a loose Bomber Man 93 does fetch 20-25 so Nats offer was pretty much right on.
I actually wasn't the one that made the offer on Bomberman, I don't know who did, but that was the example he gave, so I had to address it. :)
My offer was on a different title...
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Yea typically a loose Bomber Man 93 does fetch 20-25 so Nats offer was pretty much right on.
I actually wasn't the one that made the offer on Bomberman, I don't know who did, but that was the example he gave, so I had to address it. :)
My offer was on a different title...
Ahh,ic,well def wasn't me. I have no plans of making any offers to this guy here because I don't want to play Turbo Price is Right.
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once again bomberman 93 is NOT a loose hucard. if you read my description... "most of them are complete with cases and manuals with the rare exception of a few. if it is missing anything i will put a note. if nothing then the game is complete (i dont have any boxes). in relation to the games that say "comes/included with a hucard case", these are the games that were issued without cases and simply come with a official hucard case with a generic label with the games title. just wanted to clear up any confusion."
if the game says "comes with a case" that still means the manual, and hucard sleeve are there too. just a blank official hucard case. 98% of the games listed are complete.
EVERY GAME HAS THERE HUCARD SLEEVES.
EVERY GAME HAS ITS ORIGINAL CASE (with exception to the games issued without cases and raiden, sinistron, and night creatures). night creatures is the only hucard/hucard sleeve only that i have listed.
apparently people are confused and i am trying to clear this up. you all are stating prices for hucard only games when mine are complete.
and selling my games here i figured id offer to people that appreciated it as much as i did/do. i loved my turbo grafx. only reason i started selling these off on ebay a bit ago was my deal with my wife was that i could buy magical chase, bikini girls, might and magic 3, etc but once we were ready to get a house i was to sell them to get money together for a down payment. and if you saw the ebay listings i had then you already knew that as it was in every listing.
and i would hope that georges recommendation would put everyone as ease.
i may have some prices in mind but if it gets to the right price im sure to sell it. thats why offers are best. some of these rarely ever went on ebay and when they did i went for them, some i found in used stores.
and whats wrong with making a profit. you expect me to just sell real low cause its your 'thing' come on. i figured id offer the games to the peopel that would appreciate them more, instead of someone that is just going to resell them or put them on ebay themselves. if you have a problem with my prices then fine, dont buy from me. you can just wait along til another ever shows up. i will not take a loss.
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It's been stated before ..making a profit is ok, as long as you don't expect full Ebay prices. Here theres no insertion fees, no final value fees, etc. Many of us know multiple places (outside of Ebay), that have lower prices than Ebay. Asking going value is ok, but keep in mind, many people on here are VERY well versed in pricing, and know what the unEbayinflated values are.
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Ok,well just to be clear,later titles released in box,with plastic tray,sleeve and manual are still considered loose if you do not have the original plastic tray and box,regardless of what type of Tv Sports title case you recycle,because its not its original case and thats not how the game was issued,please keep this in mind. That means if all you have to Bomber Man 93 from its packaging and contents is the manual and original sleeve,then its considered loose compared to its original form of packaging/completeness. Generic/recycled cases do not make titles complete.
Also,these days Turbo stuff is very common at collector shops and all over ebay,so rare doesn't apply so much as the words popular demand do. And yea,a few years back,Turbo stuff was less common,but now its pretty much on there all the time,complete titles,loose ones,ect... Theres always a way to get the stuff now,not just in rare twice a month auctions,flea market finds,ect.
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thats why i am taking offers. my prices are probably going to be higher then what all of you have in mind, but i am a bargainer. going back and forth on a price til an agreement is made isnt hard. a few of the games i have NO price in mind and all i can do is entertain offers. im not difficult. i hate losing a sale but im not going to settle below market.
im not saying the recycled case makes it complete. it just has more of a value (manuals and cases were always $3 each when i got them from tzd). and having a manual doesnt make it loose. all it would be missing is a box and tray. still better then a hucard without a manual. i put no value on the sleeves, every game should have a sleeve reguardless.
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If it doesn't have the actual box and plastic tray,then its loose,regardless of you having the manual and a added relabeled TV sports case. The Manual doesn't hold the game or make the packaging. This isnt a arguement your going to win. Its silly to call it complete when its far from it if you dont have the original package/box and plastic tray.
Example:
original Hu-card
original Sleeve
original Manual
original Plastic Tray
original Box
If you are missing 2 of the above 5 items then what you have is 60 percent of the product total. 60 percent does not = complete,nor does generic substitutions.
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so you expecting to pay the same price for a game that either has or doesnt have the manual. thats what im hearing. sound like if it doesnt have all five then its worth the same no matter of its other contents? i dont agree if thats the point.
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so you expecting to pay the same price for a game that either has or doesnt have the manual. thats what im hearing. sound like if it doesnt have all five then its worth the same no matter of its other contents? i dont agree if thats the point.
For Bomberman 93 without manual,around $20,with manual ,around $25. Dont try to be a smart ass,go back up and look at price quote. Being a smart ass will make you lose potential customers even faster.
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im not being a smartass. im trying to understand what your saying. and where have you guys seen bomberman 93 for $25. and i dont really care for the tone im getting either. im not desperate to sell these. I AM SIMPLY OFFERING THEM TO THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD RESPECT THEM MORE!!!!!! if you dont like my prices then so be it. bitching about it isnt going to get anyone anywhere.
man a lot of you are rude and expect too much out of something.
where is this "market" where these games are so low priced?
i was a long time collector and i never could find them for below cost.
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Lots of people have listed sales without prices on here. As a buyer, it might not be the most fastest method to buy games, but it is kind of fun in an old-fashioned bargaining sort of way.
If Dreamcaster is determined not to take a hit on the prices he originally paid for these games, that's his choice and it just means they're going to sell slower (especially if many of them were purchased on ebay). I priced my recent sale dirt cheap because I wanted to clear everything out as fast as possible.
Dreamcaster, you have some 'premium' prices but thanks for posting your sale on these forums.
(BTW, I can't believe how much your got for your Signature Edition copy of MB awhile back! I could tell you put some thought into the description.)
obviousely im going to get a LOW offer. ($25 for bomberman 93.... come on its $45 no matter where you go)
Bullshit. Anywhere on eBay.... maybe. I got a mint complete-in-cardboard box copy in November 2007 for $30 from a non-eBay reseller. $25 if it's just the card and manual is perfectly fair.
$25 sounds right.
Nat: Thinking back, I had all sorts of strange ideas about the value of games when I stumbled upon these forums, let's be more gentle in our replies.
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thank you. finally a voice of reason.
im not trying to be difficult, an ass, rude, etc with anyone with anything. i am the most stress free person out there. stress causes me ulcers so i cant get stressed. just hear me out people. the markets i am used to dealing with (even game stores) have prices i am used to. if an offer is below my expectations i still may consider it. if anyone that has been communicating with me over PM or email can attest to my politeness and easiness to work with. if you approach me with a calm tone i am that way back.
people get too defensive on forums. lighten up with me im just an old stoner that loved his games but has to get rid of them to live. ebay was my income. i have a wife and kids. i have obligations. i am not trying to sob story this but just see my perspective.
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and where have you guys seen bomberman 93 for $25...
where is this "market" where these games are so low priced?
i was a long time collector and i never could find them for below cost.
There aren't many recent Bomberman 93 closings, but here are a couple references:
http://www.multimods.com/tgsoft.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bomberman-93-Turbo-Grfx-Duo-RARE-COMPLETE-MINT_W0QQitemZ130225113206QQihZ003QQcategoryZ139973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
(the fact this seller listed it as "grfx" rather than "grafx" may have lowered this complete copy slightly)
Edit: oops, one more:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270235761442&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017
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yeah i have had a lot of refrences to the ebay listing for bomberman 93. i have 40 in it. i would like 50 but 45 is best i can do. the 5 extra dollars covers shipping and a small profit. thats why my bomberman is $45. once these dwindle down my prices will too. the first month or so is going to be some solid prices but after that if bomberman 93 doesnt sell ill drop it to $40. everyone see my system to this. offers first, prices maybe later as the list dwindles. eventually these all have to go but im not in a big hurry to compensate.
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It is true that a lot of us had mixed ideas about prices when first joining. I paid 100 bucks for a steam hearts and nat just told me he nabbed his for 40 bucks :oops:. However- I think we all already knew that ebay prices are a bit inflated and that they shouldn't necessarily be the gauge for reasonable pricing- and that prices on forum sales should generally be better than on ebay- part of the reason for that is that there is informed feedback from knowledgeable collectors on these threads. This is healthy. In the end- it's dreamcaster's call of course- and no one has to buy anything- but the responses on this thread aren't getting out of hand. A back and forth communication is being established with our thoughts on his sales- and with his thoughts in return. Keep in mind Dreamcast that our responses aren't meant to be malicious- we'd like for you to actually sell some games just as much as we'd like for some of us to buy some off of you for fair prices- as long as the prices are indeed fair; at the moment they seem a tad inflated- and your reasoning that you're trying to match ebay prices doesn't taste very well to some of us. There's reasons why many of us refer to ebay as Evil Bay- inflated pricing is one of them. Again- this isn't Ebay- we're pretty used to seeing some great sales here- so when we see one which has ebay-ish pricing, admitted ebay referencing, "pm me your offer" when you already seem to know what price you're looking for, an attitude that says you know what you want to get and you'll go no lower (which makes the whole "pm me your offer" thing moot), an insistence that a game goes for 45$ when probably none of us paid that much for it- all of this will bring questions and comments. You should have expected that.
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im not basing my prices on ebay. if anyone is familiar with my listings on ebay for the most part i was the lowest price in the stores section. i atleast tried to. ebay prices add a lot: fees, packing, a$$hole-ism, etc. and i know that doesnt apply here. im trying to adjust my prices but with not a lot of people (5) not responding in a pm/email and then once hearing a price walking away without haggeling doesnt help. a little bit more openness would be cool. I AM VERY LAID BACK AND REASONABLE WHEN IT COMES TO DEALS or anything for that matter.
if you ever bought from me on ebay you know my service was good.
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and im sure i might have over paid for some of my games but 'telling' me what you think they are worth and scolding me for my prices doesnt help either. just figured id add that.
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im trying to adjust my prices but with not a lot of people (5) not responding in a pm/email and then once hearing a price walking away without haggeling doesnt help.
my lowest price is what i have in them
thats why i am taking offers. my prices are probably going to be higher then what all of you have in mind, but i am a bargainer.
if you dont like my prices then so be it.
if an offer is below my expectations i still may consider it.
the prices i have in mind for some are high
if anyone is familiar with my listings on ebay for the most part i was the lowest price in the stores section. i atleast tried to
Jekyll and Hyde- slow down. I can't tell who is who. Stick with one persona and roll with it.
Just figured I'd add that.
Furthermore you keep saying that you're only selling here because you figured we'd "respect" the games more- we aren't children. It's clear that you're "simply" here because EBay suspended your account- for whatever reason.
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to take the time to go through every post and try to put together a list of every inconsistency is quite a dick move. nice. i like how i am being treated here. im trying to work with you people and i keep getting shit back. im done responding in this forum. i have expalined myself more then i needed to. if anyone is interested in a game send me a message or email and i will talk to you there. im done dignifying myself with responses here when i just keep getting attacked. real nice community guys.
i will continue to keep the list up-to-date.
i am just not responding anymore in this thread. other threads, maybe. but not this one.
thanks for the wonderful treatment (except to those few that were polite to me and on my behalf, thank you!).
-mike
ween-rocksNO@SPAMhotmail.com (remove NO SPAM)
**I AM STILL SELLING THESE GAMES HERE JUST NOT RESPONDING IN THIS THREAD ANYMORE**
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Sometimes brutal honest truth hurts. Sorry,were more concerned with fair prices and good business then your touchy feelings.
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to take the time to go through every post and try to put together a list of every inconsistency is quite a dick move. nice.
Actually there were more- that was just a summary. :wink:
And what's with the name calling? :cry: Dude you're gonna hurt my feelings- I AM THE MOST LAID BACK DUDE EVAR. :lol:
:) sic' em champ! :)
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Fixed :)
i am just not responding anymore in this forum thread. other forum Other thread topics, maybe. but not this one.
thanks for the wonderful treatment (except to those few that were polite to me and on my behalf, thank you!).
-mike
ween-rocksNO@SPAMhotmail.com (remove NO SPAM)
**I AM STILL SELLING THESE GAMES HERE JUST NOT RESPONDING IN THIS THREAD ANYMORE**
Sinis right,Jekyll and Hyde seems to fit well.
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Don't you think you guys are being just a tad hard on dreamcaster? I understand the concern of being scammed or of a person just passing through to sell some games, but I do see a bit of ridiculing starting to develop.
Although some of you genuinely posted with concern and questions which is perfectly reasonable, it seems as if others are on the offensive and ready to attack a new member. Yeah he did call Sinistron a dick, but he's probably getting fed up with being attacked. You have to admit Sinistron this:
Jekyll and Hyde- slow down. I can't tell who is who. Stick with one persona and roll with it.
Just figured I'd add that.
Furthermore you keep saying that you're only selling here because you figured we'd "respect" the games more- we aren't children. It's clear that you're "simply" here because EBay suspended your account- for whatever reason.
Could be easily construed as being snotty, or sarcastic even if that wasn't your intent. Not that it makes dreamcaster's name calling justified.
@dreamcaster What I and others here do see though is that it seems you have just come to pcenginefx.com to sell your games with no intent to contribute anything to the community via discussion or otherwise. This is frowned upon here as well as many other communities, and the reason sites like digitpress have a 10 day wait period before you can even enter the buy/sell forum. I know you are probably thinking "What better place to sell my tg-16 games than pcenginefx.com." but there is really more to it than that. If you want to let people know you are not a scammer or an opportunist you should really join in some of the discussions of the on the boards or shoutbox. This let's us get to know you better and it makes you seem a lot less like the typical faceless scammer/person stopping by trying to make some cash selling games at near ebay prices.
Although you've started out on the wrong foot dreamcaster, I believe and hope that you can make up for that and become a valuable member here, just take my suggestions into consideration. If you do I think you will find this place is full of interesting people and conversations. Contrary to what this thread may have you believing, this place truly is a lot of fun.
As for everyone else I believe we should really give dreamcaster a chance instead of jumping the gun and making assumptions. Lets see how/if he responds and then we can go from there.
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i made an offer on a couple games, we have not agreed yet but he seems fine and willing, i think he is just figuring out where he stands with his pricing.
i am not a big fan of making offers but when i do i feel the right to fight for the price i offered and haggle even more and maybe finding some middle ground with the seller, ya it is a lot more work but hey you dont state a price well then let the negotiation dancing begin…and i am a good dancer!! :D
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You guys should *really* take a look at how you act in the sale threads at this place.
There is nothing at all wrong with a seller saying "make me an offer." You guys just complain and complain anytime someone sells something on these forums. If he posted prices, someone would jump in and whine about how unfair the prices are, or how the collectors ruined the system, etc etc.
This happened to me recently, and Ive seen it happen to just about every seller since. Look at rarebucky's recent sale thread where people spent 2 pages whining about a couple dollars of shipping charges. Hell, look at just about *any* sale thread on this place. People just jump in and start bitching about something.
It's a shame, I REALLY like this site, but the buying and selling is really more trouble than its worth. My advice to this seller is toss this stuff on ebay or visit another forum to sell his goods.
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You have to admit Sinistron this:
Jekyll and Hyde- slow down. I can't tell who is who. Stick with one persona and roll with it.
Just figured I'd add that.
Furthermore you keep saying that you're only selling here because you figured we'd "respect" the games more- we aren't children. It's clear that you're "simply" here because EBay suspended your account- for whatever reason.
Could be easily construed as being snotty, or sarcastic even if that wasn't your intent.
Zeon you're on the money there. However if you see my first two posts on this thread they were of a different tone. It was only after I started noticing all of these contradictions (I shouldn't have to point out that it's not a good thing coming from a seller) and after Dreamcast started complaining about the "scolding" (is this guy above criticism if his sale raises some red flags?) that I started getting a little irked. That and his ongoing insistence that he's "simply" here to sell to people who "respect" the titles more. Another way to read that is that he's hoping the people "respect" the titles in that they'd be willing to pay more for them- because they love them so much.
You guys just complain and complain anytime someone sells something on these forums.
That's funny geddon because I and the others "complaining" have bought many games off of this forum. I'm getting sick of people thinking that I'm some kind of f*cking sales killer and instant upstart. Maybe if my name was "the happy bunny" instead of sinistron and if I wasn't as observant you'd think better of me? When I see a sales thread I come on wanting to buy games- call me nuts. I have over 220 pce games so yeah- buying is my main concern- not killing sales threads. Also- shock of all shocks- I've actually bought something from dreamcast before on Ebay- this is not Ebay and he's applying some questionable sales tactics here. Sellers who have drawn criticism themselves love to jump on other disputed sales threads saying "oh look at these guys who are only here to kill sales threads" but the truth is that you're only here on this thread in attempt to build a strong voice against the people who question. That to me is the real "shame"- along with most of us checking out a thread in hopes of scoring some games and instead seeing yet another red flag producing seller on this beloved forum.
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HMMMMMmm I've had sales threads on here for quite a while now, some is priced, some is make me an offer...and I haven't had anyone bash me/complain. I have sold/traded with many members on here, all seem happy that I ship well, items are as described, etc. The main problem as of late is people (not saying anyone in particluar), come here to sell there stuff fast, and drift away. I'm sorry, anyone expecting Ebay prices (except for the rare instance of a big hitter game) without the BS of Ebay (fees, time listing, etc.) are going to get a bit og backlash. Then it also falls on how they act/react. Getting defensive is one thing, but these people usuallu resort to name calling, and shitty attitudes (see the thread on that awful PCE auction).
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Geddon I just checked out and read again your sale thread in which there was a complaint-
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4864.0
That complaint didn't come from me or from anyone on this thread. As a matter of fact if you check it out you'll see clearly that I defended you in your sale thread (as did Mike Helgeson). Don't lump us all together- we're different people with different concerns and the concerns are different case by case.
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Geddon I just checked out and read again your sale thread in which there was a complaint-
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4864.0
That complaint didn't come from me or from anyone on this thread. As a matter of fact if you check it out you'll see clearly that I defended you in your sale thread (as did Mike Helgeson). Don't lump us all together- we're different people with different concerns and the concerns are different case by case.
Sinistron, I honestly wasn't pointing the finger at you, or any specific person here. I apologize if I came off that way, and didn't mean to offend anyone.
Really, I was just making a general observation. I'm an active member of a lot of other game sites and there is a big difference in how people act in sales threads here, at least based on what I've seen. It's definitely made me think twice about selling my extra Turbo-related stuff here.
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yeah i said i wasnt going to reply in here again but.....
i didnt call him a dick. i called what he did a dick move.
i am not selling these here to expect more for them. i collected these games for a long long time and i love the turbografx dearly and love it more then any other console. id make love to it if the hucard slot wasnt too big (hahaha i can jokeabout myself). i would much rather have these go to a good home than a reseller. i could have very well taken these to the game shop and sold them (probably wouldnt have gotten as much but i wouldnt have to deal with what i have been here). i dont take any of the 'bashing' for anything. say whatever. i could care less. its just words. i hate conflict, i would much rather walk away from it then deal with it.
as sparky guessed earlier, i am trying to feel out my prices here. yeah im used to ebay, but im adapting to here, just give me a moment to get used to it. and sinistron why would you second guess me if you bought from me on ebay before? you obviousely had nothing bad to say. why would i change my business ethics? i came here well recommended, i dont think i deserved the treatment i received. i was nice until the point where i was fed up. start over? come on man hold in all the buttons on your turbopad and give this another shot.
also if you look at my profile i signed up a while back. Date Registered: May 09, 2007, 11:03:34 PM. i think i bought a game off of someone and that was it i think. i cant remember. but point being, i didnt just become a member.
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My advice to this seller is toss this stuff on ebay or visit another forum to sell his goods.
HE CAN'T SELL ON EBAY.
You obviously did not read this thread, and simply jumped in to flame while appearing level-headed.
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PM sent!?!
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My advice to this seller is toss this stuff on ebay or visit another forum to sell his goods.
HE CAN'T SELL ON EBAY.
You obviously did not read this thread, and simply jumped in to flame while appearing level-headed.
LOL. No, I did read it, I just forgot. My bigger point was that he might want to consider selling elsewhere.
Hopefully that didn't completely ruin my ruse of "level-headedness." 8) Anyhow, I apologize for jumping into this thread, I probably shouldn't have. Didn't mean to lump everyone together. I know both sides have good intentions. I just wish the marketplace here ran a little smoother for both the buyers and sellers.
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I received Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu today. It works great and it's in great condition; the game and manual are near mint.
The game was wrapped in some thin cardboard and placed in a plain manilla envelope (no bubble wrap). I was shocked that it wasn't damaged in transport, but maybe Mike knows something I don't about the secret art of folding cardboard. :wink: I would recommend that people tell Mike explicitly that they want a cardboard box.
Buy with confidence!
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cardboard is tougher that what bubble wrap provides. im also eco-minded and try to reuse.
the cardboard provides a stiffer packaging and provides more resistence to 'shock' then what thin bubble wrap does. trust me if something would have come down hard on it the cardboard is going to provide better protection than the flimsy bubble wrap will.
glad your happy. and i hope others will see im legitimate.
enjoy your game.
-mike
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cardboard is tougher that what bubble wrap provides. im also eco-minded and try to reuse.
the cardboard provides a stiffer packaging and provides more resistence to 'shock' then what thin bubble wrap does. trust me if something would have come down hard on it the cardboard is going to provide better protection than the flimsy bubble wrap will.
glad your happy. and i hope others will see im legitimate.
enjoy your game.
-mike
You are missing the point. The way you shipped it may have been cost effective and cheap and lame,but if you are actually trying to fool yourself into thinking its a safe ship method,it isn't. It really isn't nothing but a slight step above a bubble mailer. The best way is to use bubble wrap or shredded paper and a actual small box. Anything else can simply be crushed by heavier parcels during shipping.
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You are missing the point. The way you shipped it may have been cost effective and cheap and lame,but if you are actually trying to fool yourself into thinking its a safe ship method,it isn't. It really isn't nothing but a slight step above a bubble mailer. The best way is to use bubble wrap or shredded paper and a actual small box. Anything else can simply be crushed by heavier parcels during shipping.
i have always shipped like this and NEVER once has a game/cd/etc been damaged.
just get the stick out of your butt and quit giving me crap.
you havent and probably arent buying anything from me so your opinion of anything really doesnt mean a thing.
you have stated your opinion, on many occasions, about everything. and im sure everyone is clear as to how you feel. so PLEASE just go take your opinions elsewhere cause i really dont care about what you have to say. good day.
you can take it however but im being polite.
-mike
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...nothing but a slight step above a bubble mailer.
Well, then Dreamcaster is better than me. I've shipped all of my stuff in bubble mailers unless I'm mailing more than 2 CD cases or unless the buyer pays extra for Priority Mail, in which case small media boxes become practical. The risk of a crack or two on a replaceable CD cover is usually worth the money saved by not using a box. Also, one trick I picked up from Toshi at Dreamstars is slipping a little square of bubble wrap under the cover of CD cases to distribute the impact suffered from any rough envelope-shipping.
Dreamcaster--listing a couple shipping options is a nice way to share the responsibility for safe arrive with your buyers by letting them weigh the cost vs. risk factor.
I wrote the following for my sale and it seamed to satisfy both dirt-worshiping postal customers and those with sticks-in-their-asses: :wink:Please contact me for a shipping quote. PM is fine or email vestcoat@hotmail.com. Small items can be sent first class in CD bubble mailers for $2-3 dollars. I also have small and large Priority Mail "Media" boxes that usually run in the $5-8 range and, of course, the ubiquitous flat-rate boxes for $9-10. I prefer paypal but will accept postal money orders (the ones from the Federal Post Office, no cashiers checks).
Items have been tested. Items will be shipped with delivery confirmation. Insurance is optional for the standard amounts charged by the USPS--I'm not responsible for items lost or damaged in transit.
Of course, more options are a pain logistically.
"Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!"
"Hooray!"
-The Simpsons
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Im doubtful every game you have shipped,has arrived safe and sound if mailed that way. What you prob had was alot of people cutting you slack for cracked jewel cases. No one here wants their stuff shipped in that manner. Seriously,scour the threads here for shipping complaints,and you will see that. Use better packing material. You can nab small boxes at Wal-Mart for under a buck that are perfect for shipping jewel case sized items,and they have room for bubble wrap or shredded paper material. Invest a little cash into better protecting what you ship,because you damn well know shipping nice expensive items in a flat mailer with two thin pieces of cardboard does not really cut it.
Just because your not on ebay now doesn't mean you can just crap out on shipping good with no fear of negative comments being made. And now your on a forum where people will express their distaste in this kind of behavior when they see it happen or reported. Also, per your friends advice on this thread http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=7430.msg108582
maybe it would be best for you to go elsewhere. You obviously don't care for our opinion on it and clearly stated what you think of us. it seems pcenginefx members expect too much. (example: $25 for bomberman 93 for tg-16)
The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are.
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For whatever it's worth, almost every game that I've bought singly has been shipped in a bubble mailer. I certainly wouldn't call it negligent packaging, but you should be upfront with prospective buyers and tell them of your intended shipping methods. If anyone doesn't like it, they can take their money elsewhere or pay a tad more for a box (as vestcoat suggested).
Just my two cents on the subject. Good luck with your sale.
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For whatever it's worth, almost every game that I've bought singly has been shipped in a bubble mailer.
Ditto.
I can't vouch for my customers, but my items are usually fine when I've been on the receiving end. When shipping, I also usually wrap newspaper or padding around the items. If I had ever once seen more than the occasional crack in a cover--like a broken case clip or, god-forbid, game, I would certainly not advocate bubble mailers. I agree with Helgeson that expensive items (maybe $40-50+) are worth investing in a box.
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Im doubtful every game you have shipped,has arrived safe and sound if mailed that way. What you prob had was alot of people cutting you slack for cracked jewel cases. No one here wants their stuff shipped in that manner. Seriously,scour the threads here for shipping complaints,and you will see that. Use better packing material. You can nab small boxes at Wal-Mart for under a buck that are perfect for shipping jewel case sized items,and they have room for bubble wrap or shredded paper material. Invest a little cash into better protecting what you ship,because you damn well know shipping nice expensive items in a flat mailer with two thin pieces of cardboard does not really cut it.
Just because your not on ebay now doesn't mean you can just crap out on shipping good with no fear of negative comments being made. And now your on a forum where people will express their distaste in this kind of behavior when they see it happen or reported. Also, per your friends advice on this thread http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=7430.msg108582
maybe it would be best for you to go elsewhere. You obviously don't care for our opinion on it and clearly stated what you think of us. it seems pcenginefx members expect too much. (example: $25 for bomberman 93 for tg-16)
The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are.
and if you dont know what you are talking about then its best to not say anything.
did anyone say it was 2 thin pieces of cardboard?
NO THEY DIDNT.
the case was WRAPPED in cardboard. that means cardboard completely wrapped around the case and also overlapping. the tighter the package the best resistence to shock. like someone mentioned putting a small piece of bubble wrap in the center reduces shock because it thickens it. same thing with wrapping in cardboard.
just keep your comments to yourself dude. and he didnt say he was upset with the transaction. you simply took one statement and blew it way out of proportion. he even said it was all in very good condition.
your not going to buy from me. and i wouldnt even sell to you after all of this anyways. so what you have to say means jack squat. so you can quit your attacks and go bother someone else that cares.
you must be a tiger with the ladies. haha go play in the sandbox, big people talking.
"The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are."
-your the only one making a fuss.
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Also, one trick I picked up from Toshi at Dreamstars is slipping a little square of bubble wrap under the cover of CD cases to distribute the impact suffered from any rough envelope-shipping.
hey man i do that as well when i send, and have not had any bad feedbacks, i also let people know how i will be sending generally and if they have any concerns they let me know. but i hear ya Micheal, i had a padded envelope with a bunch of vic 20 games for my wife arrive and it was all ripped open!!!! with one game missing :( (was not a good one anyway :P) always best to let the buyer know.
and so far so good with Dremcaster, got a decent price for the games i want and i am awaiting shipping (hopefully it will be packed well)
at the end of the day majority will rule on dreamcaster, if i am happy or not i will let the forum know.
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I got both the games I ordered from Dreamcaster very quickly, and they arrived in pristine condition. Purchase with confidence, and he is willing to bargain on his prices.
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I got both the games I ordered from Dreamcaster very quickly, and they arrived in pristine condition. Purchase with confidence, and he is willing to bargain on his prices.
see guys im legitimate and very easy to work with.
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I'm not the president or anything- but as long as you're entertaining offers which it seems you're doing now that's fine by me. That was my only problem that you'd say "pm me an offer" while having fixed prices in mind. Don't think we're all out to gang up on you -- that really isn't how it works here- we appreciate new sellers but are wary of some of the new ones who run in just for the quick buck. I'll check your list again now but I don't know- I like all of my hucards loose and I have a good many of the games on your list. Either way good luck with the sale.
PS- I checked through my ebay purchases and email and it seems that perhaps I didn't buy from you in the past after all- which confused me because I have a memory of pming you "ween does indeed rock"- I thought it was connected to a purchase- but now I can't recall the actual outer context.
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I'm not the president or anything- but as long as you're entertaining offers which it seems you're doing now that's fine by me. That was my only problem that you'd say "pm me an offer" while having fixed prices in mind. Don't think we're all out to gang up on you -- that really isn't how it works here- we appreciate new sellers but are wary of some of the new ones who run in just for the quick buck. I'll check your list again now but I don't know- I like all of my hucards loose and I have a good many of the games on your list. Either way good luck with the sale.
PS- I checked through my ebay purchases and email and it seems that perhaps I didn't buy from you in the past after all- which confused me because I have a memory of pming you "ween does indeed rock"- I thought it was connected to a purchase- but now I can't recall the actual outer context.
yeah i remember the message on ebay. i cant remember other than that either. and WEEN DOES ROCK!!!!!!!!!!
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I never bought from you, but I always noticed your auctions because of your unique seller ID.
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Im doubtful every game you have shipped,has arrived safe and sound if mailed that way. What you prob had was alot of people cutting you slack for cracked jewel cases. No one here wants their stuff shipped in that manner. Seriously,scour the threads here for shipping complaints,and you will see that. Use better packing material. You can nab small boxes at Wal-Mart for under a buck that are perfect for shipping jewel case sized items,and they have room for bubble wrap or shredded paper material. Invest a little cash into better protecting what you ship,because you damn well know shipping nice expensive items in a flat mailer with two thin pieces of cardboard does not really cut it.
Just because your not on ebay now doesn't mean you can just crap out on shipping good with no fear of negative comments being made. And now your on a forum where people will express their distaste in this kind of behavior when they see it happen or reported. Also, per your friends advice on this thread http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=7430.msg108582
maybe it would be best for you to go elsewhere. You obviously don't care for our opinion on it and clearly stated what you think of us. it seems pcenginefx members expect too much. (example: $25 for bomberman 93 for tg-16)
The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are.
and if you dont know what you are talking about then its best to not say anything.
did anyone say it was 2 thin pieces of cardboard?
NO THEY DIDNT.
the case was WRAPPED in cardboard. that means cardboard completely wrapped around the case and also overlapping. the tighter the package the best resistence to shock. like someone mentioned putting a small piece of bubble wrap in the center reduces shock because it thickens it. same thing with wrapping in cardboard.
just keep your comments to yourself dude. and he didnt say he was upset with the transaction. you simply took one statement and blew it way out of proportion. he even said it was all in very good condition.
your not going to buy from me. and i wouldnt even sell to you after all of this anyways. so what you have to say means jack squat. so you can quit your attacks and go bother someone else that cares.
you must be a tiger with the ladies. haha go play in the sandbox, big people talking.
"The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are."
-your the only one making a fuss.
The game was wrapped in some thin cardboard and placed in a plain manilla envelope (no bubble wrap). I was shocked that it wasn't damaged in transport, but maybe Mike knows something I don't about the secret art of folding cardboard. :wink: I would recommend that people tell Mike explicitly that they want a cardboard box.
Dreamcaster,read that quote well again. He was not congratulating you on your lackluster packing job. Incase you did not know this,and this applies to anyone, typically at postal hubs mail will come down conveyor belts to get sorted,and alot of time the people have to grab and toss it fast to keep things moving steadily,and lots of impact does occur as well as crushing from heavier items.
I got to see last nite at a guys house I used to deal with (who happens to run hub to hub routes for USPS) what kind a damage this type of sorting can do in extreme cases,as he showed us a Hyper 64 Sam Showdown cart that was damaged due to poor packing in a plain large bubble mailer envelope. The metal casing got all bent up and dented and he had to use pliers to bend it back into shape so the cart would fit on the Hyper 64 system.
This is simply not a good way to ship expensive items,esp if the person is paying for packing materials and shipping.
You can whine and bitch about me saying this all you want,but it doesn't change the fact thats a piss poor way to ship.
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Im doubtful every game you have shipped,has arrived safe and sound if mailed that way. What you prob had was alot of people cutting you slack for cracked jewel cases. No one here wants their stuff shipped in that manner. Seriously,scour the threads here for shipping complaints,and you will see that. Use better packing material. You can nab small boxes at Wal-Mart for under a buck that are perfect for shipping jewel case sized items,and they have room for bubble wrap or shredded paper material. Invest a little cash into better protecting what you ship,because you damn well know shipping nice expensive items in a flat mailer with two thin pieces of cardboard does not really cut it.
Just because your not on ebay now doesn't mean you can just crap out on shipping good with no fear of negative comments being made. And now your on a forum where people will express their distaste in this kind of behavior when they see it happen or reported. Also, per your friends advice on this thread http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=7430.msg108582
maybe it would be best for you to go elsewhere. You obviously don't care for our opinion on it and clearly stated what you think of us. it seems pcenginefx members expect too much. (example: $25 for bomberman 93 for tg-16)
The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are.
and if you dont know what you are talking about then its best to not say anything.
did anyone say it was 2 thin pieces of cardboard?
NO THEY DIDNT.
the case was WRAPPED in cardboard. that means cardboard completely wrapped around the case and also overlapping. the tighter the package the best resistence to shock. like someone mentioned putting a small piece of bubble wrap in the center reduces shock because it thickens it. same thing with wrapping in cardboard.
just keep your comments to yourself dude. and he didnt say he was upset with the transaction. you simply took one statement and blew it way out of proportion. he even said it was all in very good condition.
your not going to buy from me. and i wouldnt even sell to you after all of this anyways. so what you have to say means jack squat. so you can quit your attacks and go bother someone else that cares.
you must be a tiger with the ladies. haha go play in the sandbox, big people talking.
"The longer you stay here the more you are going to hear what peoples opinions on fair pricing and good shipping are."
-your the only one making a fuss.
The game was wrapped in some thin cardboard and placed in a plain manilla envelope (no bubble wrap). I was shocked that it wasn't damaged in transport, but maybe Mike knows something I don't about the secret art of folding cardboard. :wink: I would recommend that people tell Mike explicitly that they want a cardboard box.
Dreamcaster,read that quote well again. He was not congratulating you on your lackluster packing job. Incase you did not know this,and this applies to anyone, typically at postal hubs mail will come down conveyor belts to get sorted,and alot of time the people have to grab and toss it fast to keep things moving steadily,and lots of impact does occur as well as crushing from heavier items.
I got to see last nite at a guys house I used to deal with (who happens to run hub to hub routes for USPS) what kind a damage this type of sorting can do in extreme cases,as he showed us a Hyper 64 Sam Showdown cart that was damaged due to poor packing in a plain large bubble mailer envelope. The metal casing got all bent up and dented and he had to use pliers to bend it back into shape so the cart would fit on the Hyper 64 system.
This is simply not a good way to ship expensive items,esp if the person is paying for packing materials and shipping.
You can whine and bitch about me saying this all you want,but it doesn't change the fact thats a piss poor way to ship.
well, i didnt use a plain bubble mailer. and i dont use them either for that simple fact. its like mailing in a plastic bag.
once again mountains out of mole hills dude. reread what was posted. once again your talking about something you had no part of. it didnt concern you at all. he wasnt even upset at all. nothing was damaged. i know what i am doing when i package these.
from this point on i am ignoring any of your other posts since they are irrelevent.
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Do you mean ignoring me like when you said you would no longer reply to any comments in this thread ? :wink: Bubble mailers or thin cardboard,neither are good protection on expensive items. USPS will even fight/deny a insurance claim on damaged items if they are packed poorly. Keep that in mind. [-X
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ok, i got vasteel and sinstron with manual and sleeve and over all i am happy… only thing that needs some improving is shipping… the thin cardboard with a regular envelope did not help my double cd case of vasteel and the corner got dinged (plastic chipped off) not that bad but still. Dreamcaster you just need to take a little more care in shipping and all will be goooooood.
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For what it's worth, my comment was intended to inform potential buyers that they should (as I mentioned) specifically ask Mike to ship using more secure packagine, as I do not think that a manilla envelope (or a bubble mailer, for that matter) is adequate, regardless of ancient and secret cardboard-folding techniques.
Since my package arrived without any damage I am not upset and am satisfied with my purchase. (I also genuinely believe that Mike is a good guy and wants his buyers to be happy.)
Mike: I work part time at UPS, and let me tell you, packages are not handled carefully in transit. Treat your packages as if they are going to be thrown against a wall, because that is a distinct possibility. Saving $1-2 on shipping is not worth the possibility of damage.
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I was parked out side of the fed-ex in downtown one time and saw the dude loading up his truck. He was just throwing the packages into the truck. I looked at him like wtf?, but he just laughed and continued to throw them.
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I work part time at UPS, and let me tell you, packages are not handled carefully in transit. Treat your packages as if they are going to be thrown against a wall, because that is a distinct possibility.
A friend advised me not to ship anything UPS ground service without extreme packaging precautions, like "maybe if you put it in a hard-plastic camping cooler wrapped in duct tape." :D
He said air mail and the more expensive services are less dangerous because they're used more for lighter items, documents and commercial goods and are initially transported in vehicles that aren't as densely-packed as the ground trucks.
Further off topic... 8-[
Guys I've known at UPS have told me horror stories about packages falling off conveyor belts and spilling contents ranging from samples of fox seamen to formaldehyde-soaked pig fetuses...yuck.
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For what it's worth, my comment was intended to inform potential buyers that they should (as I mentioned) specifically ask Mike to ship using more secure packagine, as I do not think that a manilla envelope (or a bubble mailer, for that matter) is adequate, regardless of ancient and secret cardboard-folding techniques.
Since my package arrived without any damage I am not upset and am satisfied with my purchase. (I also genuinely believe that Mike is a good guy and wants his buyers to be happy.)
Mike: I work part time at UPS, and let me tell you, packages are not handled carefully in transit. Treat your packages as if they are going to be thrown against a wall, because that is a distinct possibility. Saving $1-2 on shipping is not worth the possibility of damage.
ya i missed out on your warning as you posted a day or 2 after my deal was complete with him :roll: but thats ok and i agree he is a good guy and means well.
other than the shipping all was good.
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Got my games a few days ago(Thursday of last week I think) and all is well. Items arrived quickly and safely and im enjoying my two titles i got. We did a little bargaining and I feel i got a fair deal. I was the one who offered $25 for Bomberman 93' in case no one figured that out. Thanks again Dreamcaster!
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Got my games last week. Thanks a lot! :)
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I was the one who offered $25 for Bomberman 93' in case no one figured that out.
I offered $25 for it also.
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glad you two are happy. as everyone can now see i am totally legit. if anyone sent some offers before and i turned them down please recontact me with them again. i have rethought a lot of my prices for these remaining games and would like to get the rest of these into good hands.
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Mew PM sent!
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Groovy.
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Groovy.
:mrgreen: im super easy to deal with guys. please help me get the rest of these games moved. also too please look at the very bottom of the original post, i have some ps2 games i am looking for too. i may be interested in buying them but prefer to trade for them.
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also...................
anyone got a dreamcast (mil cd compatible) bundle that they would want to sell off inexpensively. i miss my dreamcast.
im basicly looking for a complete console with a memory card (doesnt have to be a vmu) and a couple fun games (rpg/action/puzzle/kids) for a decent price. i could even trade some of the turbografx stuff i have listed here.
oh and if you have a tg-16/pce rom disc that can go with it i'd love ya forever. main reason im getting the dc again.
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anyone got a dreamcast bundle that they would want to sell off inexpensively.
I do. Or rather, I have one I'll trade for Turbo games. I just sent you an e-mail.
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Got my package in today, and I am very pleased. Dreamcaster is a straight up excellent guy to deal with. He's easy to negotiate with, plus i got my games within 3 days of them being shipped out. Not to mention that the hu-cards themselves were in mint/near mint condition. Please do not hesitate to deal with him!
Ok time for some Chew-Man-Fu action... :mrgreen:
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Got my games yesterday. Fast shipping and they worked like a charm. Also in minty fresh condition too! :clap:
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How much for ys book 1 & 2 w/ map regualr tg-cd version?
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How much for ys book 1 & 2 w/ map regualr tg-cd version?
You might get a better response if you shoot him a pm....
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How much for ys book 1 & 2 w/ map regualr tg-cd version?
You might get a better response if you shoot him a pm....
yep i handle business privately. pm me an offer.
i check this thread regularly to update but i prefer to handle an business privately.
i have a great reputation ask around or read above.
-mike
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Got my second batch. Thanks! :mrgreen:
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Got my second batch. Thanks! :mrgreen:
2 seperate orders and both arrived to a happy buyer.
please help me get the rest of these moved along.
-mike
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still available.
-mike
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I ordered Prince of persia, Dungeon Master and Chase HQ and got them 3 days later from Dreamcaster! Items are immaculate! I Highly recommend buying this guys collection! If I get more money soon I know im going to buy more of his stuff! I usually dont like making offers but I made him offer he responded very quickly with a yay and it was painless!
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I ordered Prince of persia, Dungeon Master and Chase HQ and got them 3 days later from Dreamcaster! Items are immaculate! I Highly recommend buying this guys collection! If I get more money soon I know im going to buy more of his stuff! I usually dont like making offers but I made him offer he responded very quickly with a yay and it was painless!
another happy buyer. im really easy to bargain with and usually dont pass in the long run. im down to the last bit on the list and would liek to get these moved along to better homes. everything is in beautiful adult condition. i take care of my stuff. send me your offers...........
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still updated and available. eventually im going to get some of these up on gamegavel.com
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some listed on gamegavel.com and as of this post i have put 8 games up for auction/sale. more to go up.
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SOLDIER BLADE now on www.gamegavel.com (http://www.gamegavel.com/) seller ween-rocks starting bid $24.99
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Ys Book 1 & 2 TurboDuo Pack-In Version Starting at USD 29.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106516
Turbo Duo Gate of Thunder Bonk's Adventure Revenge Bomberman 4N1 Starting at USD 34.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106517
Turbo Duo Meteor Blaster DX Homebrew PC Engine Starting at USD 9.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106518
Turbografx-CD Last Alert Starting at USD 19.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106519
Turbografx-CD Valis III 3 Starting at USD 19.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106520
Night Creatures Turbografx-16 HuCard & Sleeve Only Starting at USD 14.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106521
Turbografx-16 Moto Roader Motoroader Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 9.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106522
Turbografx-16 Samurai Ghost Game/Manual/Case Starting at USD 34.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106523
Turbografx-16 Military Madness Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 14.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106525
Turbografx-CD Lords of the Rising Sun w/ Both Manuals Starting at USD 19.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106526
Turbografx-16 Cadash Game/Case/Manual RARE Starting at USD 29.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106527
Turbografx-16 R-Type R Type Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 11.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106528
Turbografx-16 Raiden RARE Game Hucard/Sleeve/Manual Starting at USD 29.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106529
Turbografx-16 Soldier Blade Hucard/Sleeve Starting at USD 24.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106530
Turbografx-16 Time Cruise Hucard/Sleeve Starting at USD 14.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106531
Turbografx-16 Yo Bro Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 9.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106532
Turbografx-16 Dead Moon Game/Manual w/ case Starting at USD 19.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106533
Turbografx-16 Vigilante Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 4.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106534
Turbografx-16 Hit the Ice Hucard/Sleeve and a case Starting at USD 9.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106535
Turbografx-16 Falcon Hucard/Sleeve and a case Starting at USD 4.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106536
Turbografx-16 Space Harrier Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 6.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106537
Turbografx-16 Ordyne Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 19.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106538
Turbografx-16 Gunboat Game/Case/Manual Starting at USD 14.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106539
PC Engine Duo Human Sports Festival Complete Japan Starting at USD 1.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106540
PC Engine CD Minesweeper Mine Sweeper Complete Japanese Starting at USD 2.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106541
PC Engine CD Record of Lodoss War Case/Game/Manual/Map Starting at USD 6.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106542
PC Engine Cyber Cross Hucard/Sleeve/Sponge/Case/Manual Starting at USD 9.99:
http://www.gamegavel.com/auction_details.php?auction_id=106543
there thats it for right now. i may put more up later depending on how these sell. these are all still on this list and available for offers, but once a bid is placed its on hold unless that sale falls through. i do not know if they have a buyer paying problem on game gavel or not. maybe these listings may create a market for pce/tg items to get listed there more.
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i do not know if they have a buyer paying problem on game gavel or not.
Not that I am aware of, but when the site was a bit newer, I heard of a seller who left positive feedback without being paid and didn't ship the item (or expect payment) because the end price was too low. I think you should be ok.
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i do not know if they have a buyer paying problem on game gavel or not.
Not that I am aware of, but when the site was a bit newer, I heard of a seller who left positive feedback without being paid and didn't ship the item (or expect payment) because the end price was too low. I think you should be ok.
yeah since it isnt eGay i assumed there wasnt going to be any problems on there. but people bid please. some of the games have lower starting prices and everything has a photo.
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auctions end in 4 days.
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some bid are in and thanks to those people. still ots of stuff thats not bid on yet. also if someone wants to make a deal on all the sports games i have on the list on page 1 for one price just to blow them out. no lowballs.
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updated. actual good sales on www.gamegavel.com (http://www.gamegavel.com/)
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everything is on game gavel.