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Title: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on June 23, 2008, 12:05:44 PM
I have noticed for a long time that people who have only played Ys on Master System, SNES, Genesis, and PS2 have been for years misspelling and mispronouncing Ys. I made this video to clear this mess up for the "average joe gamers" who are totally unaware of the awesome Turbo Grafx-16. :D
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 23, 2008, 03:46:42 PM
Falcom/Hudson themselves often spell it "Y's", like the Ys IV disc.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on June 23, 2008, 03:55:54 PM
Falcom/Hudson themselves often spell it "Y's", like the Ys IV disc.
Engrish maybe?
Personally, it doesn't really hugely matter on how it's spelled or pronounced, since by the looks of it, there seems to be acceptable multiple (albeit even official) ways for both of the aspects. I have questioned how to say Ys, however, in which the promotional video that SuperPCEngineGrafx has titled "" had said it as "Yeez" (as in "jeez" but with a "Y") for mentioning Ys Book I & II. I've always had pronounced it as "Yees" (as "yeast" without the "T") from when I've first seen the title in spite of it. I wouldn't mind it if a person were to use one of the variants in the factors at all if I was exposed to it (though "Ywies/Whys/Wise" does sound a bit ridiculous, and the spell check feature also gives a suggestion to correct Ys with "Y's", as well :P).
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 23, 2008, 06:21:51 PM
It's pronounced, ease, as in grease, without the "gr". I've listened to many a japanese version of the various games, & that's how it's always pronounced.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Turbo D on June 23, 2008, 07:20:09 PM
PD is correct! Regardless of the spelling its pronounced as he described.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Keranu on June 23, 2008, 11:56:36 PM
I've always pronounced it as eeeassse (well at least since I've played it) and spelt it as Ys.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 24, 2008, 01:21:58 AM
And Adol is pronounce "Udle!" :wink:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Sinistron on June 24, 2008, 01:48:33 AM
I know it's pronounced Ease- but that has never stopped me from referring to it as E's. Then again- being from Queens- I mangle many a word to my taste- for example- the word "bastard" leaves my lips as "bastid". :)
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Necromancer on June 24, 2008, 03:21:03 AM
It's pronounced, ease, as in grease, without the "gr". I've listened to many a japanese version of the various games, & that's how it's always pronounced.
Indeed. I always pronounce it as ease, followed by the ideal utopia in my head. :lol:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: 2X4 on June 24, 2008, 10:36:45 AM
This isn't even debatable, since an apostrophe is clearly absent from all Ys logos (except apparently on the sega cartridge), and it is clearly pronounced by the narrator in the opening sequence of the game (Turbo Duo/CD Version). So there's your proof if you run into a special kid who insists otherwise.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Keranu on June 24, 2008, 10:51:02 AM
This isn't even debatable, since an apostrophe is clearly absent from all Ys logos (except apparently on the sega cartridge), and it is clearly pronounced by the narrator in the opening sequence of the game (Turbo Duo/CD Version). So there's your proof if you run into a special kid who insists otherwise.
Well a lot of people still insisted in adding an apostrophe no matter what. [-(
Title: Re: The Ys/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 24, 2008, 12:48:54 PM
This isn't even debatable, since an apostrophe is clearly absent from all Ys logos (except apparently on the sega cartridge), and it is clearly pronounced by the narrator in the opening sequence of the game (Turbo Duo/CD Version). So there's your proof if you run into a special kid who insists otherwise.
There's never been any debate or anything. Ys fans have known how to pronounce the title for over 20 years. Aside from the Turbo-CD version's voice, the SMS version attempts to describe how it's pronounced at the title screen.
If some non-Y's fans want to call it something else they have every right to do so. Since official releases have Ys spelled "Y's", they can spell it however they want too. Many series and main characters are pronounced differently by different people and there's nothing wrong with it. The PC Engine isn't strictly the "Peeshee Enjeen".
But even if someone wanted to be a pwnage nerd and try to trash people for mispronouncing the title of one of the cart versions... why should they know how to pronounce an unusual word like Ys if they've only played carts from the series?
This isn't even debatable, since an apostrophe is clearly absent from all Ys logos (except apparently on the sega cartridge), and it is clearly pronounced by the narrator in the opening sequence of the game (Turbo Duo/CD Version). So there's your proof if you run into a special kid who insists otherwise.
There's never been any debate or anything. Ys fans have known how to pronounce the title for over 20 years. Aside from the Turbo-CD version's voice, the SMS version attempts to describe how it's pronounced at the title screen.
If some non-Y's fans want to call it something else they have every right to do so. Since official releases have Ys spelled "Y's", they can spell it however they want too. Many series and main characters are pronounced differently by different people and there's nothing wrong with it. The PC Engine isn't strictly the "Peeshee Enjeen".
But even if someone wanted to be a pwnage nerd and try to trash people for mispronouncing the title of one of the cart versions... why should they know how to pronounce an unusual word like Ys if they've only played carts from the series?
But I don't think anyone's a noob for mistakenly believing that Adol Kristein has red hair or that he isn't 100 pounds over weight.
Ok 2 possibilities.
1. The most of CD labeling department of Hudson Soft had a serious flu outbreak that day so they called some of the American Hudson Soft staff to label copies of Ys IV.
2. CLASSIC ENGRISH!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: ParanoiaDragon on June 24, 2008, 06:00:08 PM
It seems like in Japan, Adol's name is always pronounced "odd-dull" But, in the US, we usually hear it as "a-doll". I think in Ys 6, they pronounced it that way, besides the 2 Turbo games. I forget how it was pronounce in the anime english dub.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Turbo D on June 24, 2008, 06:45:58 PM
you guys are all wrong about the Y's thing; its Ease dash! :lol:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 24, 2008, 07:56:22 PM
Ha ha! I LOL'd at that.
We all know the Japanese can't keep anything consistent, so that really is the best explanation.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: termis on June 24, 2008, 10:33:59 PM
EVERYONE on this board knows the proper pronunciation of Ys. I wouldn't expect any less from pcenginefx.com
That said, I was also guilty of saying "wise" until I played the Turbo CD version in the early 90s. (I first played the SMS version)
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Joe Redifer on June 24, 2008, 11:18:51 PM
I said whys until I read EGM and they demanded that I pronounce it "ease" long before the game's release. I still do, I don't do the quick decay such as east without the T. To me it looks like Ys is plural, so that the way I pronounce it. Looks like more than one Y. Aw hell they should have just called the game something else. Silly Japanese n00bcakes.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 25, 2008, 01:19:45 AM
To me it looks like Ys is plural, so that the way I pronounce it. Looks like more than one Y. Aw hell they should have just called the game something else. Silly Japanese n00bcakes.
Yet they left 'Book' as singular - n00bcakes indeed. :lol:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on June 25, 2008, 05:08:58 AM
Saddest thing is if Ys was renamed that in the US, the series would have been remembered by many gamers.
The series IS remembered by many gamers.
From people like you who played video games since the 80s, yes.
From people like me (which is a majority of gamers) who got into games during the Genesis vs. SNES wars? No.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: nectarsis on June 25, 2008, 09:13:12 AM
How are people like you a majority of gamers?? I never owned a Turbo ( besides a TE, and 2-3 games) bitd, yet I knew about Ys. Ys games were on both Snes, and the Genesis so it was part of the system "war" as you put ti.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Turbo D on June 25, 2008, 10:51:29 AM
I never had a turbo back in the day, but I did have Ys3 for the SNES.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Necromancer on June 25, 2008, 10:54:00 AM
Which is during the same time period that Ys was released on the TG-CD. You do realize that the Turbo is part of the same generation as the Genny and SNES, right?!? Anyways, considering that various incarnations of Ys have appeared on a dozen different systems, it's a sure bet that more than just us old folks have heard of it before, though I wouldn't argue that it's a household name (in the U.S.) akin to Final Fantasy.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: nectarsis on June 25, 2008, 10:58:00 AM
LOL..even on Hudson's own home page they have a poll of what series of games you'd like to see on the ithouch/iphone....guess what the current winner is.....Ys :shock: :shock: (beats out Star Soldier, Adventure Island, Bonk, Dungeon Explorer)...which last I checked aare all fairly well known series :-k :-k
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Necromancer on June 25, 2008, 11:09:53 AM
LOL..even on Hudson's own home page they have a poll of what series of games you'd like to see on the ithouch/iphone....guess what the current winner is.....Ys :shock: :shock: (beats out Star Soldier, Adventure Island, Bonk, Dungeon Explorer)...which last I checked aare all fairly well known series :-k :-k
Holy f'n shit! I just checked out their page and couldn't believe my eyes. Look at the slogan for iPhone/iPod software: Do the Hudson!!(ß). One can only imagine the new levels of homo-eroticism that could be reached by controlling Cho Aniki with a touch interface. Do the Muscle! :lol:
P.S. - What the hell is an eszett doing in the slogan?
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Arjak on June 25, 2008, 03:57:43 PM
When I read this thread today I was roflmao the whole time.
Being a big fan of Ys, the supposed "Adol" and "Sword Battlin'" had me going nuts!
Where is that picture of "Adol" from anyway? And was there really a game made called Sword Battlin'? 8-[
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: TR0N on June 25, 2008, 06:10:29 PM
LOL..even on Hudson's own home page they have a poll of what series of games you'd like to see on the ithouch/iphone....guess what the current winner is.....Ys :shock: :shock: (beats out Star Soldier, Adventure Island, Bonk, Dungeon Explorer)...which last I checked aare all fairly well known series :-k :-k
Yet they can't get even one,Ys title on the vc yet for the u.s any ways :P
Good luck to huson trying to wrestle that from falcom for iphone use....
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on June 25, 2008, 06:45:33 PM
LOL..even on Hudson's own home page they have a poll of what series of games you'd like to see on the ithouch/iphone....guess what the current winner is.....Ys :shock: :shock: (beats out Star Soldier, Adventure Island, Bonk, Dungeon Explorer)...which last I checked aare all fairly well known series :-k :-k
Well many people are fans of Hudson's games that aren't Bomberman?
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: nectarsis on June 25, 2008, 06:47:59 PM
Well for such an "obscure", and "fairly unknown" series, seems to be holding it's own :shock: :-k
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on June 25, 2008, 06:49:16 PM
LOL..even on Hudson's own home page they have a poll of what series of games you'd like to see on the ithouch/iphone....guess what the current winner is.....Ys :shock: :shock: (beats out Star Soldier, Adventure Island, Bonk, Dungeon Explorer)...which last I checked aare all fairly well known series :-k :-k
Yet they can't get even one,Ys title on the vc yet for the u.s any ways :P
Good luck to huson trying to wrestle that from falcom for iphone use....
But the Iphone game wouldn't be tied up in legal crap. The one for Turbo is(though, Hudson won't talk about it). I think it's Thomas Haden Church that's holding back the bandwagon, since he's a "star" now, maybe he feels he needs more money for his role as Goban! This ofcoarse, is just my theory, but, it's the only thing that makes sense. IIRC, Ys has been rated for quite some time by the ESRB or whatever.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 26, 2008, 12:40:30 AM
When I read this thread today I was roflmao the whole time.
Being a big fan of Ys, the supposed "Adol" and "Sword Battlin'" had me going nuts!
Where is that picture of "Adol" from anyway? And was there really a game made called Sword Battlin'? 8-[
The Adol pic is from the original PC-88 Ys game. Therefore all subsequent Adols are crooked imposters.
The Sword Battlin' pic is a mock-up I did for an old thread, showing how Ys would've turned out if Hudsonhad somehow had enough money to afford to hire the geniuses who took Makaimura and made it "Ghosts 'N Goblins".
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Necromancer on June 26, 2008, 03:34:52 AM
My guess is that most of the folks who post here also go there.
Or maybe the people that have played Ys on one of the dozen of formats that it's been released on over the years are going there. Just because you hadn't heard of Ys until recently does not mean that the rest of the world is equally ignorant.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Sinistron on June 26, 2008, 03:41:07 AM
Yeah seriously- even when it was announced that Ys would be released on virtual console I saw the vc coverage sites jam up with cats who wanted to play it- people who HEARD about it without having played it- people that obviously weren't from this site. Just let it go man, the world isn't flat, people who declare their love of videogames don't get beat up (unless they're you), and Ys is a videogame franchise of some reknown. Every single person here is telling you different so just give up the ghost already. We've all been around the block- you've barely stepped out of the front door. :-"
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on June 26, 2008, 01:39:55 PM
Nintega's video brought the world's most l33t hardcore Ys fan out of retirement to provide this enlightened comment-
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I was fortunate enough to have been given Ys Book 1+2 as an Xmas gift in 1992, so I grew up already knowing the proper pronunciation. Then again, any half-wit with a subscription to EGM at the time knew it too since EGM's review crew cleared up the pronunciation problem.
Anyone pronouncing it "wise" is a poser. A "gaming newfag" to their very rotten, deserving-of-death core. Christ, with 50+ vids on youtube of this opening they still haven't heard it being spoken? Abortion is the only solution.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Keranu on June 26, 2008, 02:19:48 PM
Haha, that's awesome.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Game and Watch Kirby on June 26, 2008, 05:54:18 PM
Nintega's video brought the world's most l33t hardcore Ys fan out of retirement to provide this enlightened comment-
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I was fortunate enough to have been given Ys Book 1+2 as an Xmas gift in 1992, so I grew up already knowing the proper pronunciation. Then again, any half-wit with a subscription to EGM at the time knew it too since EGM's review crew cleared up the pronunciation problem.
Anyone pronouncing it "wise" is a poser. A "gaming newfag" to their very rotten, deserving-of-death core. Christ, with 50+ vids on youtube of this opening they still haven't heard it being spoken? Abortion is the only solution.
That's BoilerPlate, who calls himself a grumpy old gamer on his channel; I've known the guy for quite a while now. He can be a little rude sometimes, but he's an alright person. Viewing his comments on it, though, he seems to be getting a LITTLE out of control right now :shock:.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Turbo D on June 26, 2008, 09:11:52 PM
damn gaming newfags, rofl. :lol:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: ceti alpha on June 27, 2008, 02:03:39 AM
A couple of my friends played Ys on the SMS, and they assumed it was pronounced Y's or wise. So when I told one of these friends that I had picked up the TG version of eese, he had no idea what I was talking about. I had to explain to him that eese is the real pronunciation. He still questions it, but that's just because he's a stubborn bastard. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Lord Thag on July 01, 2008, 05:18:48 AM
It's definately pronounces 'ease'. The word 'Ys' is actually from gaelic, and it's basically the gaelic version of the Atlantis myth. There's actually a real myth about a vanished city called Ys that was buried under the ocean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Nintega Turbine Trio-CBS on July 01, 2008, 06:13:23 AM
It's definately pronounces 'ease'. The word 'Ys' is actually from gaelic, and it's basically the gaelic version of the Atlantis myth. There's actually a real myth about a vanished city called Ys that was buried under the ocean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys
Wow that I didn't know. So Ys is Gaelic. Very cool find Thag :)
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: Black Tiger on July 01, 2008, 06:28:18 AM
A guy who worked at the local game rental store back in the day pronounced it "yise". This was before the Turbo version of course.
There are tons of cheap books on the gaelic Ys.
Title: Re: The Y's/Ys debate.
Post by: atr3yu on July 19, 2008, 04:24:35 PM