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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: KingDrool on February 11, 2005, 04:07:11 PM
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So I just paid a ridiculous price for this game and so far am actually loving it. It's fairly simple, and not the greatest game I've played for the Duo, but for some reason I really enjoy it.
Anyone else have thoughts on this game?
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Did you buy it off D-Lite / Dragsy on ebay??
Looks real cool in PCFXTV, id like toitry it one day.
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Yeah I did. Like I said, I paid an insane amount of $ for it, but I really wanted it to help complete my collection. I've only got a few more US S/CD games to go before I have them all.
Anyway, it's a pretty decent game; much better than I thought it would be. It's a lot of puzzles, a lot of trial and error.
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How much did you pay? Maybe I can make you feel better, cause I paid around $200 :roll: for my mint copy with original case/manual/map.
The game is really cool for old school. I like the music and the dialogue.
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That's exactly what I paid and for the same stuff. Whew! I don't feel so bad now.
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That seems to be the price for mint copies. I felt the same way you did when I got it.
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Good to see you're at least enjoying the game man!
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Yes I am. I actually just played it for a while yesterday. It's a pretty solid game!
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Yes I am. I actually just played it for a while yesterday. It's a pretty solid game!
I liked it too. It's pretty fun. I wonder why Sega went the way of FMV with their games but NEC stuck to good games. I'll never understand the attraction to FMV.
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You think a company would figure to stop producing FMV games after noticing the sales of poor sales of the first batch of them.
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I bought BeyShad when it came out and haven't played it in probably 3-4 years. After seeing how much some people are paying for it I'm wondering if anybody has a disc with the same bug mine has? There's an area where you are supposed to grab a vine and swing over a swampy area that kills you. When I put the icon over the vine it says OBJECT01 or something and does nothing when you click on it.
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I've never encountered that problem... but then again, I don't recall that specific part of the game. If you can provide a screenshot that would help out.
Also, are you playing on actual console or via emulation? Emulation could be causing the glitch...
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No, its the actual game cd on the actual duo. I think the area is on the way to getting the sword. A screenshot will be tough as its a good way into the game and I've lost all my saved games as I haven't powered up the duo in about 6 months, but maybe 'll give it a try next weekend.
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yeah, losing saves is the worst. I think a fellow here is playing through the game as we speak. Hopefully he'll get to the point you're describing and see what's up. It sounds like a major glitch in the game...
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I did manage to get to the swampy region. It is not that far into the game. After you escape from the dungeons and get past the cliff areas, you come across a city where you can get a quest to take a box to a sage in the woods from a guy in a store and have a turtle race with a guy in a tavern. If you leave the city by passing a guy with a guitar then follow the path to the right you will enter the swamp. Keep going right past what looks like a pile of stones and you can see a red dinosaur like thing in the distance. The vine that is directly above the red thing is where you would grab and swing across the deathtrap. When I put the eye icon over it the info box comes up with obj1.
Most likely I have a defective disc as the rest of the game plays normally. I tried to grab a screenshot but am only getting black screen. I'm using an ati radeon 7500 allinwondercard and 3 different screencap.(ati's,wisdomsoft screenhunter,and printscreenbutton) methods and no luck. Tried Hu-go! emu, got the game to start but graphics were warped making it unplayable, only Prince Eric is drawn correctly, rest is blocky and distorted.
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Try using Magic Engine, it's a much better emulator.
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I did manage to get to the swampy region. It is not that far into the game. After you escape from the dungeons and get past the cliff areas, you come across a city where you can get a quest to take a box to a sage in the woods from a guy in a store and have a turtle race with a guy in a tavern. If you leave the city by passing a guy with a guitar then follow the path to the right you will enter the swamp. Keep going right past what looks like a pile of stones and you can see a red dinosaur like thing in the distance. The vine that is directly above the red thing is where you would grab and swing across the deathtrap. When I put the eye icon over it the info box comes up with obj1.
Most likely I have a defective disc as the rest of the game plays normally. I tried to grab a screenshot but am only getting black screen. I'm using an ati radeon 7500 allinwondercard and 3 different screencap.(ati's,wisdomsoft screenhunter,and printscreenbutton) methods and no luck. Tried Hu-go! emu, got the game to start but graphics were warped making it unplayable, only Prince Eric is drawn correctly, rest is blocky and distorted.
thanks for the update... I would love to hear if other folks have ever encountered this (or a similar oddity) in the game.
.... so you have the duo plugged into your computer's video card... here is some silly (but perhaps useful) stuff to check:
1) make sure you are using the video input on your video card.
2) test with another device (i.e. vcr) to see if you get any picture... sometimes you have to select the input source (i.e. it might be called "auxillary" or "line 2" or something).
3) pray to the turbo gods.
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I recommend you really focus on number three.
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Thanks, Magic engine is much better. Managed to get a screenshot.
A little lost on how to post the image until I read the faq :wink:
Its only 45k if anyone wants to see it.
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Do you have any kind of web hosting? If you do, upload the picture to it and on here type (http://the url for the image here/) and it will show up here. Or you can just post the link of the url here.
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Ok, I think I got it
http://home.twcny.rr.com/jbspeed/
I think I've used up my pull with the turbo Gods as it is a miracle my Duo's av cable works at all. I've spliced it a couple of times. Maybe someday I'll get a new one
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hey, thanks for the screenshot! Now I see exactly what you are talking about. I don't remember seeing "obj1" when I played the game (granted, it was a long time ago)... perhaps it isn't crucial to progressing?
I haven't a clue, though.
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No that area isn't crucial. I think,but don't know, that eventually you can get a sword from the swamp. I can play through the rest of the game. I was mainly curious to see if anybody else had this happen.
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Very interesting.
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Just buy the dog at the Pet Shop and walk straight through the swamp. He'll pull you out each time.
The "OBJ03" or whatever is in every game. Its not much of a bug, just something that they didn't end up using/finishing.
As for my impressions. Back in the day, I had low expectations for the game. Judging from the screenshots(in Mags & the Radio Shack flyer) and the fact that it was an ICOM Sim game, I thought that at best, it might be fun enough to play once through.
I only managed to pick up a copy recently for $100 without the map(complete as far as I'm concerned).
However, all I've read about the game online the last couple of years is how unbelievably amazing it is. Specifically, the graphics. All I've read is how it must use all 256 or even 512 colors at once("just like Magical Chase and Drac X!!!" :wink: ).
The fact that anyone would say anything so foolish led me to believe that it was the same deal as Sapphire(which apparently uses the 'power' of the Arcade Card(a ram cart) to push better 3D graphics than a 1st gen PSX game :? ).
Sure enough, it turns out that each background in the game only has 16 colors or less. You can easily count them ona decent TV screen. Each BG has 3 or 4 real colors, with 3 or 4 shades to each.
And all the backgrounds appear to have been scanned in without any touch up(pixel haze + the odd squared areas with color bleeding).
Still most of the BG's look nice for this type of game, a lot better than I was expecting. I personally don't like the art style(Shape Shifter cinemas) outside of the natural BG's(cities are ugly) and all the sprites look like they were drawn and animated(breaks every rule of animation) by a 13 year-old(notebook doodles).
The areas only scroll horizontally, the main character can only walk(no running) very slow and the game is really short.
The digitized sfx and voice samples are good, but the voice acting(I've read that its best CD game acting EVER!!! :P ) is pretty lame, but serves it's purpose for this type of game.
I love how quick and easy it is to Save & Load, without it, this game would be unplayable. One thing you need to know to play though, is that nothing you've done in the current screen gets saved, only everything up to and before the current area(this will f*ck you over bad).
With all that said, its still a fun game to play through once(too bad there's no real.
If you're not a collector or anything and you just want to play the game, you should just borrow a copy from a friend or download an ISO. Its definately not worth the price of addmission, at least not by Turbo/PCE standards(think of which games you could pick up for the same price).
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I can agree with you about the backgrounds for the game (although I still think they look nice art design wise), but I thought the sprites in the game urled and much more advance than a 13-year old's notebook doodle :P . For the high price, the game itself isn't really worth it for fun, but definitely an investment if you are a collector.
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I can agree with you about the backgrounds for the game (although I still think they look nice art design wise), but I thought the sprites in the game urled and much more advance than a 13-year old's notebook doodle :P . For the high price, the game itself isn't really worth it for fun, but definitely an investment if you are a collector.
Thats what I was trying to say about the countryside backgrounds. The art is cool, but they aren't spec defying or anything like I've been hearing.
I guess the charactersw are a matter of taste, but I really didn't like a lot of the sprites.
I still don't mind the price I paid for it(back in the day, I was buying current PCE games for $100 - $150), because its a Turbo game, I really like it. But its not the greatest game by Turbo/PCE standards, although it is one of the best non-japanese Turbo games.
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Yes, I think I could say Beyond Shadowgate is the best US made game for the Turbo, but I can't think of any other good US made games for the Turbo that really stick out because most of them weren't good, hah.
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Yes, I think I could say Beyond Shadowgate is the best US made game for the Turbo, but I can't think of any other good US made games for the Turbo that really stick out because most of them weren't good, hah.
Well, although most people don't like it, Shapeshifter was one of my first Super CD games along with Dragon Slayer. I actually bought them before the Duo or Super CD Card were released(I was a crazy Duo fab from the beginning).
And back in the day, I played each and every Turbo game to death once I bought it.
And I love almost every Turbo/PCE game regardless of general quality.
Even Night Creatures, if only because of the challenge leading me to master it and the satisfaction it gave me to beat what seemed like an impossible game.
Even with it's flaws, I'd probably rate SS the best english Turbo game, since it has real gameplay instead of just pointing and clicking.
Plus it, along with Night Creatures(and Dragon's Curse) are essentially Castlevania Symphony Of The Night for Duo(complete with shapeshifting), or as I called the back in the day, "Simon's Quest for Duo".
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Oh crap, I forgot about Shapeshifter. Yeah Shapeshifter is the best US Duo game then :D . I want to try beating Night Creatures sometime because it has a very cool idea, but it's hard to get used to the gameplay.
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Oh crap, I forgot about Shapeshifter. Yeah Shapeshifter is the best US Duo game then :D . I want to try beating Night Creatures sometime because it has a very cool idea, but it's hard to get used to the gameplay.
I have a walkthrough for it up on GameFAQs that makes it as easy as its going to get.
Its more about knowing the one correct route through the game, otherwise its impossible.
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Hi all. Stumbled across this thread when trying to gather some more information on Beyond Shadowgate, and, although most of the posts in this thread are a few months old, it seemed like a good place to check out.
I actually don't own a any of the PCEngine/Turbo/etc. systems. Have played them in the past, but nonetheless. Fun system, just, never got around to buying it.
Why I'm here is, I'm a huge fan of the Shadowgate series. Yeah, I know, not many games to really call it a "series," mainly just the NES one (and later port to GBC) and the N64 one. Then, this one.
Unfortunately, information about it is rather hard to come by. As well, the game itself (at least on eBay) doesn't show up very often, and when it does is up around $200. Although, reading the posts here, it seems that's pretty much the average price. So, not really any good way around that issue. Are there any other good places to check out for this game though? Even if the price isn't necessarily any less, just other places to look.
What I'd like to know is, how does it compare to the other two Shadowgate games? It seems more like a Maniac Mansion/King's Quest/etc. type of Adventure game, at least from what I can gather of it. Of course, the NES one was a point-and-click Adventure, with the N64 one being more of a free-roaming 3D Adventure game. Still, hard to really gather from the little information I have how exactly it would compare to the other two games.
Obviously, if it were a less expensive game, I'd just go ahead and buy it and figure all these things out for myself. It's not like money is that big of a problem or something though, I don't mind paying for stuff if it's really something I want. Still, considering that I'd be paying not only the cost of the game, but the cost of the system as well, I'd like to gather some more information on it.
In any event, sorry for bumping up an old thread like this.
I appreciate any additional information I can gather.
Thanks.
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What I'd like to know is, how does it compare to the other two Shadowgate games? It seems more like a Maniac Mansion/King's Quest/etc. type of Adventure game, at least from what I can gather of it. Of course, the NES one was a point-and-click Adventure, with the N64 one being more of a free-roaming 3D Adventure game. Still, hard to really gather from the little information I have how exactly it would compare to the other two games.
Really it's hardly like the other games in the series. As you mentioned, it's plays like Maniac Mansion and instead of primarily being in a Castle, you go everywhere. You can also fight and stuff (though the gameplay isn't too great). Not sure what else to say about, personally nothing about the game really impressed me and I was a huge fan of the original (and this is coming from someone who got his relatively cheap). It's basically a slow adventure game with the style of Shadowgate loosely injected.
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It's a pretty cool game if you ask me. You might want to try downloading it if you want to play it.
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Beyond Shadowgate is a great game. It is slow, and everything. But, the graphics are very nice, the story is decent, the music is good. To me however, what tipped the scales was the humor in the game. It is funny and the number of little things you can do and ways to die, it was as fun to me to try and die as it was to try and win. I also thought that the games cheesy dialog and quality to the voice work lent to this humor. To me the theme, the look, and the entire package came together well. So I greatly enjoyed playing this one and I am very glad it is in my library. But, is it worth the asking price for decent copies....no, but then again few titles are....if any.
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Yep, good humor. By the way, it's also a very SCARY game! Does anyone remember that beast in the dungeon you start out on with the moose-like antlers? That thing was absolutely devlisih creepy!
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Hi all. Stumbled across this thread when trying to gather some more information on Beyond Shadowgate, and, although most of the posts in this thread are a few months old, it seemed like a good place to check out.
I actually don't own a any of the PCEngine/Turbo/etc. systems. Have played them in the past, but nonetheless. Fun system, just, never got around to buying it.
Why I'm here is, I'm a huge fan of the Shadowgate series. Yeah, I know, not many games to really call it a "series," mainly just the NES one (and later port to GBC) and the N64 one. Then, this one.
Unfortunately, information about it is rather hard to come by. As well, the game itself (at least on eBay) doesn't show up very often, and when it does is up around $200. Although, reading the posts here, it seems that's pretty much the average price. So, not really any good way around that issue. Are there any other good places to check out for this game though? Even if the price isn't necessarily any less, just other places to look.
What I'd like to know is, how does it compare to the other two Shadowgate games? It seems more like a Maniac Mansion/King's Quest/etc. type of Adventure game, at least from what I can gather of it. Of course, the NES one was a point-and-click Adventure, with the N64 one being more of a free-roaming 3D Adventure game. Still, hard to really gather from the little information I have how exactly it would compare to the other two games.
Obviously, if it were a less expensive game, I'd just go ahead and buy it and figure all these things out for myself. It's not like money is that big of a problem or something though, I don't mind paying for stuff if it's really something I want. Still, considering that I'd be paying not only the cost of the game, but the cost of the system as well, I'd like to gather some more information on it.
In any event, sorry for bumping up an old thread like this.
I appreciate any additional information I can gather.
Thanks.
It shouldn't be too hard to find the game for about $100, probably without the map & double case and you'll have to be patient.
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To me however, what tipped the scales was the humor in the game. It is funny and the number of little things you can do and ways to die, it was as fun to me to try and die as it was to try and win.
Well, good to see that part has returned from the other games in the series :wink:
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It shouldn't be too hard to find the game for about $100, probably without the map & double case and you'll have to be patient.
Any good places to check aside from eBay, or is that pretty much as good as any other place?
Yeah, it's not like I was checking every single day for years or something. Just, seemed like it didn't show up that often, and when it did, it was nearer $200 than not. Must just be missing it or finding the wrong auctions or such.
If I could find it for around $100, that would be closer to the sort of price where I'd be willing to just go ahead and buy it and take my chances with everything else.
Guess I'll just have to keep a better eye out for it.
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Really it's hardly like the other games in the series. As you mentioned, it's plays like Maniac Mansion and instead of primarily being in a Castle, you go everywhere. You can also fight and stuff (though the gameplay isn't too great). Not sure what else to say about, personally nothing about the game really impressed me and I was a huge fan of the original (and this is coming from someone who got his relatively cheap). It's basically a slow adventure game with the style of Shadowgate loosely injected.
Thanks for the description. That definitely helped.
Fighting in a Shadowgate game? Sounds strange.
Ah well.
Still something I'd like to check out when I get the chance.
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It shouldn't be too hard to find the game for about $100, probably without the map & double case and you'll have to be patient.
Any good places to check aside from eBay, or is that pretty much as good as any other place?
Yeah, it's not like I was checking every single day for years or something. Just, seemed like it didn't show up that often, and when it did, it was nearer $200 than not. Must just be missing it or finding the wrong auctions or such.
If I could find it for around $100, that would be closer to the sort of price where I'd be willing to just go ahead and buy it and take my chances with everything else.
Guess I'll just have to keep a better eye out for it.
When I decided to buy BS, I just check everytime I was on eBay. I missed a couple around $100 because I couldn't be online to bid at the last minute.
Eventually I got one for about $100 and after playing it to death eventually sold it on eBay again for $100.
Now, I could've easily sold it for more if I wanted to, but I wasn't looking to make a buck on another Turbo fan's back. Of course, I'm pretty sure that the person who bought it was an online seller. :?
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It shouldn't be too hard to find the game for about $100, probably without the map & double case and you'll have to be patient.
Any good places to check aside from eBay, or is that pretty much as good as any other place?
Yeah, it's not like I was checking every single day for years or something. Just, seemed like it didn't show up that often, and when it did, it was nearer $200 than not. Must just be missing it or finding the wrong auctions or such.
If I could find it for around $100, that would be closer to the sort of price where I'd be willing to just go ahead and buy it and take my chances with everything else.
Guess I'll just have to keep a better eye out for it.
When I decided to buy BS, I just check everytime I was on eBay. I missed a couple around $100 because I couldn't be online to bid at the last minute.
Eventually I got one for about $100 and after playing it to death eventually sold it on eBay again for $100.
Now, I could've easily sold it for more if I wanted to, but I wasn't looking to make a buck on another Turbo fan's back. Of course, I'm pretty sure that the person who bought it was an online seller. :?
Alright. Guess I just need to be more consistant about checking every day to make sure I don't miss anything then.
Yeah, as I said, I'm definitely willing to spend money when I have to, don't have a problem with that.
Just, it's too bad that some things aren't more affordable. Would make "trying out a game to see if it was fun" much easier.
Ah well.
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It shouldn't be too hard to find the game for about $100, probably without the map & double case and you'll have to be patient.
Any good places to check aside from eBay, or is that pretty much as good as any other place?
Yeah, it's not like I was checking every single day for years or something. Just, seemed like it didn't show up that often, and when it did, it was nearer $200 than not. Must just be missing it or finding the wrong auctions or such.
If I could find it for around $100, that would be closer to the sort of price where I'd be willing to just go ahead and buy it and take my chances with everything else.
Guess I'll just have to keep a better eye out for it.
When I decided to buy BS, I just check everytime I was on eBay. I missed a couple around $100 because I couldn't be online to bid at the last minute.
Eventually I got one for about $100 and after playing it to death eventually sold it on eBay again for $100.
Now, I could've easily sold it for more if I wanted to, but I wasn't looking to make a buck on another Turbo fan's back. Of course, I'm pretty sure that the person who bought it was an online seller. :?
Alright. Guess I just need to be more consistant about checking every day to make sure I don't miss anything then.
Yeah, as I said, I'm definitely willing to spend money when I have to, don't have a problem with that.
Just, it's too bad that some things aren't more affordable. Would make "trying out a game to see if it was fun" much easier.
Ah well.
Thats why I download isos, roms & mp3s and if I like 'em, I buy them.