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Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on February 19, 2005, 11:36:20 AM
Hi, i'm new and about to buy a Japanish supergrafx.

Can this system play US games?

If not, is there an adapter for this available or will a pc engine adapter on supergrafx work?

I know it did't sell in great numbers so i guess it's not likely there will be an adapter.

Regards
RCduck7
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Keranu on February 19, 2005, 01:06:40 PM
Hello, RCduck7.

No, a Super Grafx cannot play US hucards. I think there is an adapter out there that converts Japanese PC Engine games to play on a US Turbo Grafx 16 or Turbo DUO system, but I am not positive on that. As for it working on the Super Grafx, I don't see why it wouldn't work since it can play Japanese PC Engine hucards.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on February 19, 2005, 01:28:06 PM
Thanks for the quik reply.

Did some searching and find Jap>US converter.
Since all varitions PC engine, Supergrafx,... are hucard i think it will work.
Except that the supergrafx is more powerfull (for the few games that came out for it) but i don't think that will get in the way to make it work as it is backwards compatible.

Hope to get my supergrafx.

Have a turboexpress but looking forward playing it on the big screen.  :D
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Keranu on February 19, 2005, 02:35:02 PM
Very nice. Enjoy the Super Grafx? By the way, how much did you pay for it? They are expensive.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Nutribrain on February 20, 2005, 03:31:00 AM
There was a discussion about this subject some months ago here on this board. As far as I know there's no converter which allows you to play US HuCards on your japanese system, but there's a hack out there. Look at this page here (http://www.interlog.com/~daves/pce_info/jpncnvrt.txt). You'll have to do some soldering modifications to your SuperGrafx. Or try D-Lite's page at http://www.multimods.com/. It seems that he's doing those modifications. He also posts here.

I own two japanese systems (PCE and SuperGrafx) but as there aren't not so many US only cards out there, I'm not interested in doing this kind of midification to my systems. In my opinion the US only cards, as for some exceptions, aren't good enough to justify such a risky job.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Zerojean on February 20, 2005, 03:57:10 AM
I think you have to have it modded, there is no straight converter AFAIK.

Contact D-~Lite, he sells pre-modded units sometimes, as well as doing mods.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on February 20, 2005, 07:03:30 AM
I don't have the unit in my possesion yet but have won it today on ebay for not much at all.
I will make use of the quik and insurance sending.
That will cost a lot but i would be afraid of it not arriving when i would use regular post and wait for it more then 30 days.
Here's the link:

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8169241184&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

PS: I'm not intrested of making it play US supergrafx titels as there are only a few released BUT i'm intrested to make it play us pc engine titles as i allready have a lot of them and not a single from another region.
I will look into it once the system arrived.

Thanks for the link. :)
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Zerojean on February 20, 2005, 07:31:53 AM
Woah shit you won all that??

If so  nice score!!

BTW, there are no USA Supergrafx titles, it was never released there.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on February 20, 2005, 08:59:59 AM
Yep!

Hopefully i won't get a message from him that he won't sell it to me as i won it for so little but i think it wouldn't be legal to do this on ebay.

As for the converter i'm sure i saw one for sale at a shop online for a japanish pc engine to play us hucards. don't know for sure it will work on the supergrafx (i contacted them and waiting for an answer) but the price was quit hefty and i could buy with the money a TG16 instead.
I think it's best to get my hands dirty and do the mod myself.

An other mather is the Jap CD2 add on... Would this need some modification to or isn't it worth it? If there are US or PAL RPG/Adventures i guess it would.

But i shut up for now with all that speculation as i don't posess it yet.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Zerojean on February 20, 2005, 11:09:31 AM
CD games are universal, any game works on any country machine.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Keranu on February 20, 2005, 12:25:02 PM
Lots o' cool stuff in that auction.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on February 20, 2005, 04:58:22 PM
get SuperCD-ROM module.
it wil fit right on the back of SGX which saves from using CD-ROM adapter for CD-ROM2 module.

cheers
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: D-Lite on February 21, 2005, 03:02:20 AM
To play US HuCards on any Japanese PC Engine/SuperGrafx, you need to:

1.  Ground pin #29 on the Hu6280 processor.  YOU HAVE TO do that.
2.  Use an external converter such as the Kisado adapter or install an 8PDT switch on the unit, modifying the HuCard slot.

Really the ultimate setup is a region modded SuperGrafx with a SuperCD Rom2 attachment and the Arcade Card Pro.  With that combo you can play ANY game made for either JP or US systems!
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on February 21, 2005, 05:45:18 AM
Thanks a lot it's all getting clear now.

PS: Kereanu, have clicked on that banner... uhm, do you were those magnets when you sleep? Does it work?
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Keranu on February 21, 2005, 07:12:04 AM
Haha, thanks for clicking on the banner.

The magnets are suppose to be worn during sleep, but can be worn anytime after sleep if you want. I do not know if it works because I haven't received my rings yet (they should be here 2-3 weeks :P ), so I really can't say yet. There is a testomony page on that site somewhere that has lots of people saying how it has helped them. This could all just be a scam too, but you never know :P .
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on February 21, 2005, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: "D-Lite"
To play US HuCards on any Japanese PC Engine/SuperGrafx, you need to:

Really the ultimate setup is a region modded SuperGrafx with a SuperCD Rom2 attachment and the Arcade Card Pro.  With that combo you can play ANY game made for either JP or US systems!


and he did mine. Top block! :p
only thing I'm missing ir Arcade Card Pro but then I have AC Duo with PC Engine Duo-RX...

cheers
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on February 21, 2005, 11:00:24 AM
Quote from: "D-Lite"
To play US HuCards on any Japanese PC Engine/SuperGrafx, you need to:

Really the ultimate setup is a region modded SuperGrafx with a SuperCD Rom2 attachment and the Arcade Card Pro.  With that combo you can play ANY game made for either JP or US systems!


and he did mine. Top block! :p
only thing I'm missing is Arcade Card Pro coz I already have AC Duo with PC Engine Duo-RX...

cheers
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on February 22, 2005, 06:31:34 AM
Have made my payment today.
It comes from japan and used the EMS option so i should normally have it next week.
Can't wait :P

PS: For that few games that benefit the power of the supergrafx Granzort looks cool, any other recommendations?
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: esteban on February 22, 2005, 08:25:32 AM
Aldynes (hori shooter)
ghouls n ghosts
1941: Counter Attack (vert shooter)
Granzort

are the only games worth getting for SGX, IMO.  that's also 90% of the catalog :)  (Battle Ace is the one remaining game).

If you really want the titles that are 100% unique to SGX (no versions appear on other platforms), then Aldynes and Granzort are the first titles to get.

NOTE: I have never played Battle Ace or 1941 on the actual console, so my opinions for these two are based upon emulation (ME).

ALSO: I am totally jealous of the auction you recently won.  Friggin' SWEET!
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: doomfarer75 on February 22, 2005, 09:28:58 AM
hey steve666,  I am eying neo nectaris on ebay...I like your info site on it and it got my interest...I have never played Military madness,  and am thinking about getting it too...what are your thoughts? -Josh
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: esteban on February 23, 2005, 11:49:09 AM
word up!  GOOD NEWS: well, you don't have to buy Military Madness because....

you get the Nectaris HuCard ROM as a BONUS with NEO NECTARIS.  It's called "NECTARIS1" on the menu screen.  You don't have to unlock it, it is always available.

Of course, it's the Japanese version... so there's very little English. But it plays identical to the HuCard (the console boots up the ROM from the CD drive instead of the card slot).

If you can get the Military Madness HuCard cheap, go for it. Otherwise, enjoy the Japanese version! You really aren't missing much, since there is minimal storyline (read all about it here) (http://home.comcast.net/~base_nectaris_military_madness/story-nectaris-pcengine-military_madness-turbografx.html).  Plus, you can view the TG-16 instruction manual on my site as well.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: doomfarer75 on February 23, 2005, 02:04:43 PM
nice..thanks for the info! -Josh
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 01, 2005, 08:48:33 AM
My supergrafx setup arrived today!
Only managed to run 1 game (supergrafx game) as i can't run US pc engine games yet.
I also need a 2nd stepdown as i need power for the cd rom2 to. :oops:
 
Will certainly need:

1) a 2nd stepdown
2) a hucard adapter for us games
3) make the modification
4) Will propably buy the arcade card pro
5) Buy a few supergrafx games

Will have my work cut out before things get going. :?
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 01, 2005, 09:17:34 AM
GGGrrr... Only managed to find a US>Jap adapter.
It's a Jap>US that i seek.
Well, to be honest i found one but it was 69.99£!!!
For that money i can almost buy 2 TG's!!!
Does anyone here know a link where i can buy one that's affordable?
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on March 01, 2005, 01:17:27 PM
Wot! You found US->JP converter?
Get that one right away!

Personally never heard such beast, but only JP->US converter.
I got my SGX mod'd by D-Lite.
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 02, 2005, 05:22:58 AM
uuhh... Why should i want one? I have a Jap console!
I need to play US games on my jap console!  :P

Here's the link for info about the one your so curious about.

http://joyce.eng.yale.edu/~bt/turbo/files/kisado.info
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 02, 2005, 05:27:51 AM
And an other one...

http://www.darkcityproductions.com/duo/newbies.shtml#converter
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: Keranu on March 02, 2005, 07:57:29 AM
I found this ebay auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=49230&item=8174196338&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) that I think might play US Hucards on PCE systems. I am just judging that from the picture, so please don't take my word for it!
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on March 02, 2005, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: "RCduck7"
uuhh... Why should i want one? I have a Jap console!
I need to play US games on my jap console!  :P

Here's the link for info about the one your so curious about.

http://joyce.eng.yale.edu/~bt/turbo/files/kisado.info


those are the converter to run JP hucard on US console.
I thought you said you found a converter to run US hucard on JP console? Coz I never seen such beast...

I'd had few converters in various types except kisado but being stupid sold 'em for $50 each... :(
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 02, 2005, 09:40:31 AM
Quote from: "dj898"
Wot! You found US->JP converter?


That means a US console to play Jap games on!
And yes, i also found a JP>US!

Click the link:

http://www.telegames.co.uk/teleg_22.html
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: doomfarer75 on March 02, 2005, 12:21:36 PM
hey, I wonder if anyone else has realized that you can play the japanese AC (or is it  DC?)Power adaptor for the Supergrafx right in a us outlet and play?  no stepdown needed...I do it,  no problems, but I always unplug it when finished..:)
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on March 02, 2005, 02:06:04 PM
there isn't much of difference between 100VAC and 110VAC.

now if you plug that into 220VAC or 240VAC you will fry it instantly - and some fancy fire work as well... :p
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on March 02, 2005, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: "RCduck7"
Quote from: "dj898"
Wot! You found US->JP converter?


That means a US console to play Jap games on!
And yes, i also found a JP>US!

Click the link:

http://www.telegames.co.uk/teleg_22.html


there were three types of hucard converters I've come across.
One is short plastic in either purple or another colour and didn't work that well... the other one was the board type - ala surfing board style - and worked reasonably well... and then there's kisado one...

I always thought the reason there's only JP>US converter to run JP hucard on US Tubo16/Duo was on US console there's no region lockout where as on PCE/Duo you need to modify the console as well as the hucard converter to run US hucard... guess no one was interested to run US hucard on PC Engine when they are basically a port of JP hucard anyway. :p

cheers
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 03, 2005, 08:15:16 AM
[/quote]

I always thought the reason there's only JP>US converter to run JP hucard on US Tubo16/Duo was on US console there's no region lockout where as on PCE/Duo you need to modify the console as well as the hucard converter to run US hucard... guess no one was interested to run US hucard on PC Engine when they are basically a port of JP hucard anyway. :p

cheers[/quote]

True...

But the problem is i have about 10+ turbografx (US) hucards laying around that came with the turboexpress i bought and only 1 Jap (supergrafx) hucard at the moment.
I guess i have to buy a TG 16 also to play them on the big screen.
Where do i gonna keep putting them???  :lol:
Since i mailed telegames regarding that adapter 2 weeks ago if it will work to play US games on my Jap (just to be sure) and they didn't mail me back and + 69£ is way to much + what if it eventually won't work, it all ads up. :?
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 03, 2005, 08:17:32 AM
mmhh... Did something wrong with the quote i ment to be putting there...
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on March 03, 2005, 10:59:25 AM
hassle d-lite to mod yours then. :p
I think he's busy but he maybe able to fit in his schedule to mod.
I've done my spare SGX with region mod, hucard mod, s-video and it was worth every cent imho... and he's top block too!

cheers
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 06, 2005, 10:08:03 AM
Forget that mod.
Thanks, by the way.
I gonna take the easy way and buy myself a turbografx.

I just won the arcade card pro on ebay!  :D
Still not quit sure what this can do on my supergrafx.
I have the cdrom2 2.0 card for the record.
What can i play now and what can i play with the arcade card pro attached?
The CD's i heard of are regular CD's, SCD's and Arcade CD's...
I appreciate the advise.  :wink:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8173184083
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: dj898 on March 06, 2005, 03:55:57 PM
with SGX you only need Arcade Card Duo to go with SuperCD-ROM module.
on the other hand if you use CD-ROM2 module with SGX you will need Arcade Card Pro.


cheers
Title: Can Supergrafx Japan play US PC engine games?
Post by: RCduck7 on March 07, 2005, 07:31:04 AM
Ok,
I have the cdrom2 so i done the right thing.
Then i can finaly play any Jap pc engine related game. :D