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Title: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 10, 2008, 03:58:38 PM
Altered Beast Freezes and/or stops scrolling in every level when you gather the last power-up and morph into the beast(s).  :-s

I've got a PCE Duo.

This is a glitch, right? Is there a fix?  ](*,)

Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 10, 2008, 04:20:38 PM
You need the System 1.0 System card to prevent that.  You can still play the game... just as long as you NEVER turn into the beast.  That means you must encounter NEFF three times as a human.  Still way better than the HuCard version which is set on the WAY TOO HARD difficulty level.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Tatsujin on November 10, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
i think, no chance with a DUO.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 10, 2008, 04:49:48 PM
You need the System 1.0 System card to prevent that.  You can still play the game... just as long as you NEVER turn into the beast.  That means you must encounter NEFF three times as a human.  Still way better than the HuCard version which is set on the WAY TOO HARD difficulty level.

Hmmm. Can you put a system card 1.0 into a Duo? I'm guessing not.

i think, no chance with a DUO.

Thanks again guys.

Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Tatsujin on November 10, 2008, 04:57:43 PM
i'm not 100% sure on that point. but i thought the DUO is not downgradeable via inserting a lower systemcard than super system 3.0, which is already built-in. so the only way to go is via a cd-rom + syscard1.o. but may someone knows more precisely :)
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 10, 2008, 05:21:51 PM
i'm not 100% sure on that point. but i thought the DUO is not downgradeable via inserting a lower systemcard than super system 3.0, which is already built-in. so the only way to go is via a cd-rom + syscard1.o. but may someone knows more precisely :)

That makes sense, I'm guessing I'm going to have to bust out the Genesis to play this game again.  :)
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Tatsujin on November 10, 2008, 05:58:23 PM
I'm guessing I'm going to have to bust out the Genesis to play this game again.  :)

rarely but for this case, this would be the most wisely act which could be done.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: shubibiman on November 10, 2008, 08:11:28 PM
i'm not 100% sure on that point. but i thought the DUO is not downgradeable via inserting a lower systemcard than super system 3.0,

I can tell it IS downgradable. Back in the time when I only owned a DUO, I played Altered Beast using a System Card 1.0 and it worked.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: WoodyXP on November 10, 2008, 08:13:40 PM
i'm not 100% sure on that point. but i thought the DUO is not downgradeable via inserting a lower systemcard than super system 3.0,

I can tell it IS downgradable. Back in the time when I only owned a DUO, I played Altered Beast using a System Card 1.0 and it worked.

Truth.  The boot screen even says 1.0.  I've done it with my RX, worked fine.  8)
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Turbo D on November 10, 2008, 08:22:29 PM
I guess I should have spotted this thread before I gave advice in that other thread.  :oops:
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: WoodyXP on November 10, 2008, 08:25:24 PM
I'm guessing I'm going to have to bust out the Genesis to play this game again.  :)

Probably the best thing you can do.  Investing in a 1.0 card just to play a rubbish version of Beast isn't worth it, IMO.  8)
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Black Tiger on November 11, 2008, 05:07:31 AM
i'm not 100% sure on that point. but i thought the DUO is not downgradeable via inserting a lower systemcard than super system 3.0, which is already built-in. so the only way to go is via a cd-rom + syscard1.o. but may someone knows more precisely :)

I think it's more of an issue with the system card software than the ram of the hardware.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Turbo D on November 11, 2008, 07:24:59 AM
I'm guessing I'm going to have to bust out the Genesis to play this game again.  :)
Probably the best thing you can do.  Investing in a 1.0 card just to play a rubbish version of Beast isn't worth it, IMO.  8)

I ended up buying the arcade! The only way to get a decent game of AlteredBeast.  :)
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 11, 2008, 08:09:41 AM
i'm not 100% sure on that point. but i thought the DUO is not downgradeable via inserting a lower systemcard than super system 3.0,

I can tell it IS downgradable. Back in the time when I only owned a DUO, I played Altered Beast using a System Card 1.0 and it worked.

Truth.  The boot screen even says 1.0.  I've done it with my RX, worked fine.  8)

Wow. Thanks for the advice. I guess it IS possible.


I'm guessing I'm going to have to bust out the Genesis to play this game again.  :)

Probably the best thing you can do.  Investing in a 1.0 card just to play a rubbish version of Beast isn't worth it, IMO.  8)

I was thinking the same thing. If I can find a system card for cheap enough I will try it though. *whew*.

Thanks again everyone!!
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Arjak on November 11, 2008, 08:11:55 AM
I ended up buying the arcade! The only way to get a decent game of AlteredBeast.  :)
:clap:

Yeah, the Arcade version is by far the best. It has a fun ending that was cut from the Genesis version, and it has more voice work and special effects.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Necromancer on November 11, 2008, 08:21:20 AM
Probably the best thing you can do.  Investing in a 1.0 card just to play a rubbish version of Beast isn't worth it, IMO.  8)

I was thinking the same thing. If I can find a system card for cheap enough I will try it though. *whew*.

For whatever it's worth, you can use a flash cart as a 1.0 system card.  I'm not advocating buying a flash cart solely for that purpose, but if you were to get one for other reasons, then you may as well use it to wise fwum yo gwave.

I ended up buying the arcade! The only way to get a decent game of AlteredBeast.  :)
:clap:

Yeah, the Arcade version is by far the best. It has a fun ending that was cut from the Genesis version, and it has more voice work and special effects.

But, but, but.... it doesn't have parallax.  :D
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 11, 2008, 08:25:59 AM
I ended up buying the arcade! The only way to get a decent game of AlteredBeast.  :)
:clap:

Yeah, the Arcade version is by far the best. It has a fun ending that was cut from the Genesis version, and it has more voice work and special effects.

I agree completely. Do you have the arcade version set up in a cabinet, or are you playing it with a supergun?

Also, thanks for the tip, Necromancer, on the flash cart.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 11, 2008, 08:41:40 AM
The arcade doesn't have parallax scrolling because it is not as powerful as the mighty Sega Genesis 16-Bit Video Entertainment System you crazy mofos!  They really tried to accomplish this in the arcade, but when they did the machine just kept blowing fuses so they had to take it out.  Only the Genesis is powerful enough to not blow a fuse (it uses a 17watt AC Adaptor... power beyond comprehension).  Oh my god the parallax in Altered Beast is sooo awesome.  If you haven't seen it yet, prepare to be amazed.  I was paralyzed for 3 days when I first saw it because the awesomeness is overwhelming.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Turbo D on November 11, 2008, 10:27:23 AM
I ended up buying the arcade! The only way to get a decent game of AlteredBeast.  :)
:clap:

Yeah, the Arcade version is by far the best. It has a fun ending that was cut from the Genesis version, and it has more voice work and special effects.


I agree completely. Do you have the arcade version set up in a cabinet, or are you playing it with a supergun?


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Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 11, 2008, 12:03:14 PM
Wow! Not what I was expecting! Very sweet!

*reaches into pocket for quarters...*
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Tatsujin on November 11, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
thanks guys for checking. i have teh biggest bunch of syscards but never tried this out :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops:
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 11, 2008, 12:44:00 PM
Yes, thank you all for the concrete solution and extra work on this one!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: SNKNostalgia on November 23, 2008, 02:01:26 AM
Ahem!!! Genesis Collection PS2!!! Ahem.

You get the Genesis and Arcade version of the game. You have to unlock the Arcade version. It is funny how the Genesis one looks better with the BGs and the Arcade has better sprites. The enemies blow up in separate sprite pieces when you kill them.
Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: blueraven on November 23, 2008, 08:36:57 AM
Ahem!!! Genesis Collection PS2!!! Ahem.

You get the Genesis and Arcade version of the game. You have to unlock the Arcade version. It is funny how the Genesis one looks better with the BGs and the Arcade has better sprites. The enemies blow up in separate sprite pieces when you kill them.

Cool. How do you unlock the arcade version in the PS2 Collection?

Title: Re: Altered Beast CD Freezes..
Post by: Joe Redifer on November 23, 2008, 02:09:20 PM
Please list which other arcade games are on there as well, or you shall be BANNED!