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Title: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: BlackandBlue on May 26, 2009, 10:45:28 AM
Hey guys, sorry if this has been brought up in the past, but is there a difference between the retail and pack-in version of Ys book I&II besides the design of the disc art?  Is one worth more than the other?
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: Black Tiger on May 26, 2009, 10:51:48 AM
The pack-in is worth less overall, but who knows what the average price of the lone discs would average out to. Crooked sellers like to sell the pack-in with a photo of the closed jewel case with a manual as "complete", without making the distinction that it's the pack-in or what that entails.

The pack-in has a different label on the disc and came in an empty jewel case. The same manual as the retail copy was included.

The retail version has an outer cardboard box, english manual (+sometimes a french one), insert in the jewel case, regular style CD2 label, styrofoam spacer and sometimes a map.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: policenaut on May 26, 2009, 03:39:52 PM
Thanks for the info; I noticed now that I have the pack-in version.  I didn't paid that much for it but still look forward for the retail version.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: hoobs88 on May 26, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
Actually, the manuals are slightly different... one says "Distributed by Turbo Technologies, Inc (followed by their address)." and the other says "NEC (and contains a different address than TTI)".
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: exile on May 26, 2009, 06:53:42 PM
Does anyone have a pic of the map I'd love to see it. What parts of the game did it cover?
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: Black Tiger on May 26, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
Does anyone have a pic of the map I'd love to see it. What parts of the game did it cover?

I believe that it's just a brown drawing of Esteria (mine didn't come with a map back in the day).
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: RoyVegas on May 26, 2009, 07:23:50 PM
The pack-in is worth less overall, but who knows what the average price of the lone discs would average out to. Crooked sellers like to sell the pack-in with a photo of the closed jewel case with a manual as "complete", without making the distinction that it's the pack-in or what that entails.

The pack-in has a different label on the disc and came in an empty jewel case. The same manual as the retail copy was included.

The retail version has an outer cardboard box, english manual (+sometimes a french one), insert in the jewel case, regular style CD2 label, styrofoam spacer and sometimes a map.

What exactly do you mean it has a different label on the disc?  What are the differences?
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: BlackandBlue on May 26, 2009, 11:10:59 PM

What exactly do you mean it has a different label on the disc?  What are the differences?


Retail:
(http://brainjuiced.com/ebay/ebaystore/turbo/ysbook12.jpg)

Pack-in (best example I could find):
(http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:P0KWElx0fEyIaM:http://www.vnoteschronicle.com/art/ys_book-Duo_cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: vestcoat on May 27, 2009, 06:38:58 AM
Also, let's not forget the pack-in has a white CD tray!

Does anyone have a pic of the map I'd love to see it. What parts of the game did it cover?

I believe that it's just a brown drawing of Esteria (mine didn't come with a map back in the day).

Really?  I figured they all did. 
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: RoyVegas on May 27, 2009, 06:43:19 AM
Thanks for the info BlackandBlue.  Looks like I need to get the retail version then.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: hoobs88 on May 27, 2009, 07:01:29 AM
I'll post a scan of the map after work or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: Joe Redifer on May 27, 2009, 07:10:52 AM
This may be of help:  Last night I had a dream where I was playing the pack-in version of Ys.  They totally redid the voices, had CD music in places that normally just had PSG, rewrote all of the dialog and text and Adol wore a white hat and spoke.  None of you guys noticed the difference and I was going to break the big news here, but alas it was only a dream.  :(
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: exile on May 27, 2009, 09:02:37 AM
I'll post a scan of the map after work or tomorrow.


Great! Can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: vestcoat on May 27, 2009, 11:50:04 AM
For those thinking Joe's dream is strange, remember that this is the guy who tapes his Ys map directly to TV screen to help him through the game.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: termis on May 27, 2009, 12:50:50 PM
Ah, I didn't even know the pack-in version looked different (I have the retail one).  I think it was the first game that I ever bought that was on CD media...

Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: blueraven on May 27, 2009, 04:29:20 PM
BlackandBlue's photo is right on.

I used to have the pack-in version but I sold it with my US duo back in 2004. I always wished that it was the complete version with artwork, box and map :)
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: Joe Redifer on May 27, 2009, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: vestcoat
For those thinking Joe's dream is strange, remember that this is the guy who tapes his Ys map directly to TV screen to help him through the game.

How the hell else are you supposed to beat the game???
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: hoobs88 on May 28, 2009, 02:17:12 AM
I'll post a scan of the map after work or tomorrow.



Great! Can't wait to see it!


Here you go!

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/hoobs88/YsMapScan.jpg)

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e209/hoobs88/YsMapPackIn2.jpg)
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: RoyVegas on May 28, 2009, 04:46:17 AM
Wow! Thats awesome!  Is that a pocket in the back in the manual for that map?
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: ceti alpha on May 28, 2009, 04:48:02 AM
Wow! Thats awesome!  Is that a pocket in the back in the manual for that map?

haha. That's funny. It does look like it, eh. I had to take a double look myself.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: TheMilford on June 03, 2009, 02:41:28 PM
I'll post a scan of the map after work or tomorrow.

Yeah, pretty sure mine didn't come with a map.
Title: Re: Difference between Ys retail and pack-in?
Post by: exile on June 05, 2009, 05:36:25 AM
strange I got the retail version, but not the map sigh, guess this mean I'm gonna have to score another copy complete. Unless :idea: Someone hear has an extra?