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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: Press_Run on June 03, 2009, 03:01:45 PM
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Boxed, manual, insert, game...the whole kit n' kabodle. Once in a lifetime opportunity. It's been two hours and its over $200 already. :shock:
How high will it go?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130310586420&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us
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these are always fun to follow... i say winning bid at $780 from the guy living in his moms basement :P
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Can hear vestcoat going "Oh no you didn't!?" :lol:
Tell me Roy, did get thank the 2nd one to your ex-wife? :wink:
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hmmm the BIN is a cool G- anyone wanna guess what the reserve price is?
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$999.99
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Can hear vestcoat going "Oh no you didn't!?" :lol:
Tell me Roy, did get thank the 2nd one to your ex-wife? :wink:
Unfortunately I wasn't taken up on that offer. So my wallet is a little lighter instead.
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Yet you stll bid on it for a complete ;) :P
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LOL you need blood money to buy that game or be flithy rich like bill gates :roll:
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Yet you stll bid on it for a complete ;) :P
Wellllll.... Yes I did bid on it, but I only bid to get it cheap. Which is not going to happen. Trust me, I would be surprised if my bid makes it to tomorrow.
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i don't post here much, and haven't in some while. But anyway, the copy of magical chase on eBay is mine :) I figured it would strike up some interest on these boards, so if you guys have any questions about it please feel free to send them my way.
ps: does keranu still post around these parts?
-josh
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i don't post here much, and haven't in some while. But anyway, the copy of magical chase on eBay is mine :) I figured it would strike up some interest on these boards, so if you guys have any questions about it please feel free to send them my way.
ps: does keranu still post around these parts?
-josh
I have a question. Whats the reserve? :twisted:
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I HATE being poor ](*,)
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i don't post here much, and haven't in some while. But anyway, the copy of magical chase on eBay is mine :) I figured it would strike up some interest on these boards, so if you guys have any questions about it please feel free to send them my way.
ps: does keranu still post around these parts?
-josh
Hey, welcome.
A little piece of advice, drop the reserve price. They tend to be taboo to bidders, making them reluctant in pushing the big bucks. Then again a boxed MC is pretty rare nowadays and the whole reserve thing won't be an issue. I'm interested to see how this ends. (Yet the same time sad. :cry:)
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$999.99
Mwuhahahaha! How'd you know? :lol:
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Yet you stll bid on it for a complete ;) :P
Wellllll.... Yes I did bid on it, but I only bid to get it cheap. Which is not going to happen. Trust me, I would be surprised if my bid makes it to tomorrow.
Told ya my bid wouldn't make it through the night. :lol:
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Dag I was about to take a whack at this but with the auction now at 560 with the reserve not met this auction can suck my forking balls. Magical Waste.
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whoa big bucks, I think I'll stick with my PCE copy :-"
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the copy of magical chase on eBay is mine :)
Hi there,
I'd be interested to know how many watchers the auction has ?
8)
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575 now with well over a week to go- what a disgrace. I hope that the rubes bidding this high aren't from here- forum members here should know better.
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Yet you stll bid on it for a complete ;) :P
Wellllll.... Yes I did bid on it, but I only bid to get it cheap. Which is not going to happen. Trust me, I would be surprised if my bid makes it to tomorrow.
So you have two and you're trying to get a third? You - my friend - are nauseating.
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I think Roy just wet himself :lol: :twisted:
Nothing wet here sir! I have 2 now, 1 loose and 1 with manual. :lol:
Yet you stll bid on it for a complete ;) :P
Wellllll.... Yes I did bid on it, but I only bid to get it cheap. Which is not going to happen. Trust me, I would be surprised if my bid makes it to tomorrow.
So you have two and you're trying to get a third? You - my friend - are nauseating.
Yes Sini, god forbid I actually bid on something and hope I can get it cheap (noone hear hopes to get anything cheap right?). I clearly knew that when I bid the bid wouldn't make it through the night. As for having two of them? Well I was telling to Windancer last night about putting one of my Magical Chases up on the forum in trade for game boxes. But hey maybe I'm just greedy. You're always so judgemental, tisk tisk. [-X
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I just find it amusing how you said you saw the light and changed your mind and this that and the third about getting two magical chases- that you now only wanted one- and here you are trying to get a third- so you're goddamn right- I am judging you- based on your prior bullshit story.
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I just find it amusing how you said you saw the light and changed your mind and this that and the third about getting two magical chases- that you now only wanted one- and here you are trying to get a third- so you're goddamn right- I am judging you- based on your prior bullshit story.
Unfortunately you fail to even know what the story is yet you're just choosing to judge me. Granted I have no need to explain myself but I'm going to anyway. I originally stated that I wanted a useable copy and a sealed copy which after thinking about it I realized it was pointless. I came across a seller that offered me a loose copy which I bought. I put up a thread on digitpress asking to buy the instructions for Magical Chase. I got a response from a previous seller who offered me another Magical Chase with the instructions. Since the price was good and I needed the instructions I took it. Yes I have an extra copy which just last night I was talking to Windancer about trading off HERE for boxes. So basically thats the story. If you think my story is bullshit then thats your problem.
Edit: To address you saying I am here trying to buy a third. I put a BID on a third (which has the box that I need) which would have been a steal at what I bid. That doesn't mean I am out actively searching to buy a third. It makes me a person that would jump on a cheap deal if I found one.
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Well, if you find a third copy for a fair price, I'll gladly take one off your hands. :D
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Well, if you find a third copy for a fair price, I'll gladly take one off your hands. :D
Maybe you will take it off my hands. I'll be posting in a day or so about my stuff I will have up for trade. Ill be trading it all for boxes that I need.
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Maybe you will take it off my hands. I'll be posting in a day or so about my stuff I will have up for trade. Ill be trading it all for boxes that I need.
Probably not, as I've nothing to trade and don't want loosey-gooseys anyhow. However, if you happen to find another copy with the manual for less than the price of an ebay ass-pounding, I'll be ready to talk bananas.
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I think this particular copy is worth much more than others because it comes with that exclusive code written in pencil. No other Magical Chase has that code written into their instruction booklets.
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Joe is always such an optimist. :-D
I don't see the point in buying something at such a price. A one-of-a-kind item, I can understand, but not a published Turbo game. But then again, I'm not a collector. A Magical Chase loose JP Hu is good enough for me. Even if it has a big "Chameleon Club" rainbow sticker plastered on both sides of the card.
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Reserve has been met. Not by me, but by someone lol
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wow, the price on this thing is incredible #-o
what is the story behind this game? i see that it's developed by quest who did the ogre battle games so it seems like a departure if it's a shooting game which is interesting. did it have a super low print run or something?
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750 with over a week to go. This is total insanity.
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muahahahaaa..750 bucks for it, in that bad condition??? :lol: :lol: :lol: some real poor souls out there 8-[ 8-[
what would my friend get for it's sealed one? :-k
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Hahahaha, what a bunch of f*cking fools [bidding on that auction]. I bought a complete in box copy of this game, in better condition, a year and a half ago for $200 flat.
On the flipside, the seller is making a KILLING.
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I'm too tired to figure out how to quote multiple posts, but to answer everyone's questions:
the reserve was set to $750 , which you probably know by now O:)
as of writing this, the auction has 29 people watching it.
The auction still has over 8 days to go, who knows if it will go any higher or not. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that whoever wins will actually go through with it and pay b/c ebay is filled with deadbeat bidders. I wish i didn't have to sell it b/c i love holding onto my turbo games, but I (like many other people right now) am in a desperate financial situation. I just hope that the game finds a good home and it doesn't end up with some shitty re-seller.
If any of the members of this board are bidding, i wish you luck!
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and it doesn't end up with some shitty re-seller.
he must be a damn good reseller then, to make again profit out of his uberhigh expensive purchase.
If any of the members of this board are bidding, i wish you luck!
I woulnd't call this luck anymore :lol: but at least you can consdier yourself as a very lucky guy out of this deal.
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and it doesn't end up with some shitty re-seller.
he must be a damn good reseller then, to make again profit out of his uberhigh expensive purchase.
It's like furbies. the prices only go up. until the market collapses.
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I put a bid on it as well but sadly it was not in the cards! Thank got for emulators thats all I can say
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I put a bid on it as well but sadly it was not in the cards! Thank got for emulators thats all I can say
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Thank got for emulators thats all I can say
Thank Gate Of Thunder??
:wink: :D
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LOL My bad fellas did I mention that Super high price for Magical Chase fried my brain? Now I can't spell!!!!! Someone help me! :pray:
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Well I was telling to Windancer last night about putting one of my Magical Chases up on the forum in trade for game boxes. But hey maybe I'm just greedy. You're always so judgemental, tisk tisk. [-X
Hey - you're right. Maybe you're just greedy. This is your auction- is it not? Is this not your loose Magical Chase BIN for 400$?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Magical-Chase-US-Version-Turbografx-16_W0QQitemZ150350818707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item23019b6d93&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A2102%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
What happened Roy? What happened to the crap you were saying on shout about your intentions of helping out a forum member to get it by selling it for what you paid for it?
See Roy- you're exactly what I suspected you are- garbage. And here you are doing what this other clown is doing- driving the price of this game waaay up because what do you care? You already have yours. Great service to the community Roy.
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Hey - you're right. Maybe you're just greedy. This is your auction- is it not? Is this not your loose Magical Chase BIN for 400$?
I say harrumph to profiteering bums. You (Roy) will earn no friends here by being such a gluttonous money grubber, especially if you're going to spin yarns about being a part of the community while simultaneously trying to make a quick buck.
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Well I was telling to Windancer last night about putting one of my Magical Chases up on the forum in trade for game boxes. But hey maybe I'm just greedy. You're always so judgemental, tisk tisk. [-X
Hey - you're right. Maybe you're just greedy. This is your auction- is it not? Is this not your loose Magical Chase BIN for 400$?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Magical-Chase-US-Version-Turbografx-16_W0QQitemZ150350818707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Vintage_Video_Games?hash=item23019b6d93&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A2102%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
What happened Roy? What happened to the crap you were saying on shout about your intentions of helping out a forum member to get it by selling it for what you paid for it?
See Roy- you're exactly what I suspected you are- garbage. And here you are doing what this other clown is doing- driving the price of this game waaay up because what do you care? You already have yours. Great service to the community Roy.
Well lets see here. Where to begin? That surely is my auction! I don't recall ever saying I would sell my extra for what I paid for it. I recall saying exactly what you quoted me saying. I wanted to trade it for boxes. I clearly see a posting in the Buying/Selling section with it listed in my trades list saying I wanted boxes. I have got ONE response to it saying they would trade like 6 boxes that I needed. Maybe I should do that Sinistron, maybe I should take a huge loss on it. Is that what your saying I should do?
You can't call that other guy a clown for posting his auction, nor can you call me one. Step into reality Sinistron, the game doesn't go for $50 anymore. Maybe you're living in the past or maybe you just cant accept it but the game is high dollar. If someone wants to pay $400 for it they can. Do I expect it to sell for that? Nope. Hense the Best Offer option.
Do you really want to talk about service to this community? You're knowledgeable, have helped people out here, you contribute, you've been here a long time. I can't deny that and wouldn't even try. What I have a problem with the the chip on your shoulder. You're rude to new people, sure Sinistron just scare people off with your shitty attitude. God forbid someone come to a Turbografx forum and want to buy games or ask questions. I've seen you do that left and right. It's like you're trying to intentionally run people off that actually CAN contribute in their own way. How about giving them a chance to become part of the community? Or shall we just let the first thing they see be you jumping all over them?
The price of Magical Chase is what the market pays for it Sinistron, not just what YOU personally think it's worth.
In closing, go ahead and reply to this with your shitty attitude and your bullying nature. I can tell you I am not the only one that thinks your attitude SUCKS. I just happen to be the only one that doesn't have a problem confronting you about.
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Well I know of some Magical Chase games that have sold not too long ago and not on ebay for far less than $400. That one is loose. I sure as hell doubt that you paid $400 bucks for a loose either.
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Well I know of some Magical Chase games that have sold not too long ago and not on ebay for far less than $400. That one is loose. I sure as hell doubt that you paid $400 bucks for a loose either.
I surely didn't pay $400 for it. Nor do I expect to get that for it. I expect to sell it for a best offer that is driven by what someone is willing to pay for it. I'm not forcing anyone to Buy it Now, nor am I forcing anyone to put in an offer. If I was only willing to sell it for $400 it would be a Buy it Now only, which its not.
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Roy- you most CERTAINLY did - several times in fact - in shout- say you intended to sell it for what you paid for it - that you didn't want to take a loss but that you didn't want to overcharge for it.
and how can you contrbute Roy? Your first day here you were trying to buy two Magical Chases- one sealed to leave rotting on your shelf- then turned around saying "I see the light now" or whatever- that you only needed one copy- thanks guys- thanks for showing me the way etc. Next thing I know you're trying to catch a 3rd copy on this thread here- and when I call you on it you confront me in shout saying oh I "intended" to sell it for what I paid to a forum member- to help somebody out -- when I called you on using "intended" in past tense you acted like I was overrreacting- that it only mean you intended in the past and that you still intended now. Now we see it's all crap- and now you're trying to say that 400 IS the correct price for the loose game? Why not tell us how much YOU paid for it loose Roy- and be honest because you already told several members here how much you paid for it- not that I'd believe you by now anyway. All this and also including that you were saying in shout that the real reason I was acting "shitty" was because I was jealous of you. You got this high opinion of yourself Roy- you think I can't afford the game? I can afford the game fine- even at this price- but I'm not gonna pay more than its worth- for several reasons- one being that it'll just drive the price higher and higher.
As for you not being the only one who thinks my attitude sucks- no shit. Thing is Roy- the handful of people here who "think" my attitude sucks compare not with the bushels of people here who KNOW you're a jerkoff.
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Well I know of some Magical Chase games that have sold not too long ago and not on ebay for far less than $400. That one is loose. I sure as hell doubt that you paid $400 bucks for a loose either.
I surely didn't pay $400 for it. Nor do I expect to get that for it. I expect to sell it for a best offer that is driven by what someone is willing to pay for it. I'm not forcing anyone to Buy it Now, nor am I forcing anyone to put in an offer. If I was only willing to sell it for $400 it would be a Buy it Now only, which its not.
Also Roy- MAJOR bullshit going on saying you don't expect it to sell at 400- you know damn well it's highly likely (which is only why you LISTED IT AT 400)- especially with one with a box and manual currently locked in for at least 350$ more.
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As for you not being the only one who thinks my attitude sucks- no shit. Thing is Roy- the handful of people here who "think" my attitude sucks compare not with the bushels of people here who KNOW you're a jerkoff.
Thanks for the giggles on my lunch hour. I don't know about the rest of the peeps on here, but I'll take the occasional shitty attitude over an utter shit any day of the week (twice on Tuesdays). :lol:
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Roy- you most CERTAINLY did - several times in fact - in shout- say you intended to sell it for what you paid for it - that you didn't want to take a loss but that you didn't want to overcharge for it.
and how can you contrbute Roy? Your first day here you were trying to buy two Magical Chases- one sealed to leave rotting on your shelf- then turned around saying "I see the light now" or whatever- that you only needed one copy- thanks guys- thanks for showing me the way etc. Next thing I know you're trying to catch a 3rd copy on this thread here- and when I call you on it you confront me in shout saying oh I "intended" to sell it for what I paid to a forum member- to help somebody out -- when I called you on using "intended" in past tense you acted like I was overrreacting- that it only mean you intended in the past and that you still intended now. Now we see it's all crap- and now you're trying to say that 400 IS the correct price for the loose game? Why not tell us how much YOU paid for it loose Roy- and be honest because you already told several members here how much you paid for it- not that I'd believe you by now anyway. All this and also including that you were saying in shout that the real reason I was acting "shitty" was because I was jealous of you. You got this high opinion of yourself Roy- you think I can't afford the game? I can afford the game fine- even at this price- but I'm not gonna pay more than its worth- for several reasons- one being that it'll just drive the price higher and higher.
As for you not being the only one who thinks my attitude sucks- no shit. Thing is Roy- the handful of people here who "think" my attitude sucks compare not with the bushels of people here who KNOW you're a jerkoff.
I don't recall saying I would sell it for what I paid for it but I did say that I wouldn't take a loss on it.
One sealed to leave rotting on my shelf? If your so interested in games no rotting on a shelf then why does Daisakusen show you having 259 games rotting on your shelf? Playing them all at once? Maybe you should pump all of those back into the community since your so worried about what I do with ONE of my games. Hypocricy is amazing with you. Yeah I said I saw the light, meaning that I didn't need a sealed copy, only a useable one. Do you see me with a sealed copy? Sure Sinistron, I would buy a 3rd copy and a 256th if I found them cheap. What an Idiot I would be for trying to make a profit. I must be stupid in this economy to try to make a few extra dollars for myself.
I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it. If they dont, thats why there is a best offer, so people who actually want to pay a fair price can pay what THEY think is fair.
How much did I pay for it loose? $175 and I could care less if you believe it or not.
I have no high opinion of myself Sinistron. Why did I say you were jealous? Because someone said to me to not worry about your bullshit on the forums, "It's just jealousy". Your the one that must have the high opinion of yourself. You treat people like shit, why you try to push people down I'll never know.
I never said you can't afford the game and I could care less if you can. You saying your only going to pay what its worth is fair enough. What something is worth is what people are willing to pay for it. If you think its worth $100 then good luck getting one. Sure, they're out there and you might get one, you might not.
Fact of the matter is, your attitude is no good. It's more then a few people that think so. If its people like YOU that think I am a jerkoff Sini, I wont lose any sleep over it.
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Even more hysterical is how Roy says on his auction that the next time you see a Magical Chase it may be double the price- Roy is suggesting that the next time we see Magical Chase loose it may very well go for $800.
"This game only pops up on eBay about once every six months and the price goes higher and higher every time. The next time you see one it might be double the price."
So what was it about saying you don't expect it to sell for 400$ again?
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Well I know of some Magical Chase games that have sold not too long ago and not on ebay for far less than $400. That one is loose. I sure as hell doubt that you paid $400 bucks for a loose either.
I surely didn't pay $400 for it. Nor do I expect to get that for it. I expect to sell it for a best offer that is driven by what someone is willing to pay for it. I'm not forcing anyone to Buy it Now, nor am I forcing anyone to put in an offer. If I was only willing to sell it for $400 it would be a Buy it Now only, which its not.
Also Roy- MAJOR bullshit going on saying you don't expect it to sell at 400- you know damn well it's highly likely (which is only why you LISTED IT AT 400)- especially with one with a box and manual currently locked in for at least 350$ more.
Too funny!!!! Are you kidding me? If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth. Wake up man!! i can't help what people are willing to pay. The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400. Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a f*cking dick I am! Go yell at the buyers man. lol
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Even more hysterical is how Roy says on his auction that the next time you see a Magical Chase it may be double the price- Roy is suggesting that the next time we see Magical Chase loose it may very well go for $800.
"This game only pops up on eBay about once every six months and the price goes higher and higher every time. The next time you see one it might be double the price."
So what was it about saying you don't expect it to sell for 400$ again?
What should I do when I want to sell something Sini? Should I say, here is my overpriced game, if you would like to pay this inflated price then you must be nuts.
Advertising it to try to make it look good, wow how stupid I must be to actually try to make it look good in its ad. Why would I want to make it look good to a buyer? Horrible, god I'm just horrible! Once again you must be kidding right?
The points aren't even valid... You're just trying to drum up the troops and get people pissed off at me... Cmon Sini try to get the wagons circling and get people to jump on your bandwagon. Yeee HAwwww!!!
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You know, anyone that knows of the TG-16 knows about Magical Chase. The way it's worded obviously makes it sound like it's some guy just looking to squeeze the money out of someone that wants it. So say I would like it and make an offer for 250 would you sell it to me? You said you only paid 175 for it. That means you get a 75 dollar profit. You'd be helping out a member. You'd be there for the community.
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One sealed to leave rotting on my shelf? If your so interested in games no rotting on a shelf then why does Daisakusen show you having 259 games rotting on your shelf? Playing them all at once? Maybe you should pump all of those back into the community since your so worried about what I do with ONE of my games. Hypocricy is amazing with you.
Yeah- amazing hypocrisy- only that- ANYONE that you ask here will tell you that I play the shit out of my games. I didn't clear 85 of my games- racing with others here to clear 100 first- by letting my games fester on a shelf- which is the EXACT reason that I buy the hucards LOOSE Roy- for easy access. Now- what was your point?
Yeah I said I saw the light, meaning that I didn't need a sealed copy, only a useable one. Do you see me with a sealed copy? Sure Sinistron, I would buy a 3rd copy and a 256th if I found them cheap. What an Idiot I would be for trying to make a profit. I must be stupid in this economy to try to make a few extra dollars for myself.
An idiot? No. I don't remember calling you such. I called you a JERKOFF.
I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it. If they dont, thats why there is a best offer, so people who actually want to pay a fair price can pay what THEY think is fair.
How much did I pay for it loose? $175 and I could care less if you believe it or not.
Right- ok. So- if "The price of Magical Chase is what the market pays for it Sinistron, not just what YOU personally think it's worth"- as you said yourself- then WHY are you charging FOUR HUNDRED BIN when you just said yourself you paid 175 for it? And furthermore- why are you trying to drive people into a frenzy to make them believe that the next time they see it will be EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS LOOSE?
I have no high opinion of myself Sinistron. Why did I say you were jealous? Because someone said to me to not worry about your bullshit on the forums, "It's just jealousy". Your the one that must have the high opinion of yourself. You treat people like shit, why you try to push people down I'll never know.
This is quite the conundrum here Roy- I'm jealous- and yet I have a high opinion of myself? Which is it Roy? If you're referring to Zeon on shout when he said in front of me for you not to take me seriously- the reasoning he gave was that I speak my mind- not that I'm "jealous". I have 259 games- as you point out- and I'm jealous of a guy that has maybe two japanese titles? What are you out of your mind?
I never said you can't afford the game and I could care less if you can. You saying your only going to pay what its worth is fair enough. What something is worth is what people are willing to pay for it. If you think its worth $100 then good luck getting one. Sure, they're out there and you might get one, you might not.
Again- you yourself paid 175 for it- so you know what it's worth (though even that was overpriced for a loose)- so why you keep going on about how deluded I am on how much it's worth is beyond me- and you keep putting numbers in my mouth- 50$, 100$... You love trying to stuff words in my mouth Roy. The only Roy who'll stuff my mouth is Roy Roger's- and you don't look like a sourdough bacon cheeseburger.
Fact of the matter is, your attitude is no good. It's more then a few people that think so. If its people like YOU that think I am a jerkoff Sini, I wont lose any sleep over it.
Thanks for the "facts" Roy. I'll make sure to file them away under "Roy's Truths", right next to the file labelled "Nintega's Researched Opinions on Foreign Cultures".
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There's no point in really continuing to pick apart what each other say. It's rediculous. It's like a couple of school girls slap fighting.
So let's get back to the point at hand:
I am trying to make a profit on a game. Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it. Hell feel free to laugh and mock it.
Look man, you don't like me, that's cool, I dont like you either. So lets not hold hands and sing at the campfire.
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There's no point in really continuing to pick apart what each other say. It's rediculous. It's like a couple of school girls slap fighting.
It's really only me picking apart what you say Roy- your points against me are either assumptions, presumptions, or a little whelp about my attitude and about how you and a few others don't care for it.
So let's get back to the point at hand:
We're STILL on the topic at hand Roy. The thread is about an overpriced Magical Chase- and now there's another one on EBay- YOURS. Perfectly relevant to the thread/point/topic at hand- and it'll still be relevant for discussion until this thread gets locked down.
I am trying to make a profit on a game. Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it. Hell feel free to laugh and mock it.
Now THAT'S the honesty I was looking for- coming right out and stating yourself to be the opportunistic greedy swine that you are- not beating around the bush- not trying to pretend you're one of us- one who actually cares about how the "value" of this game is skyrocketing past absurdity and realistically out of the hopeful hands of those who wish merely to play it- not to have it sitting there in mint condition on a pretty little shelf that swells pride and the ego every time they'd gaze lovingly at it.
And you haven't answered Geise- would you care to sell it to him for $250- turning a 75$ profit? You yourself said you don't expect it to reach $400. :-"
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I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.
This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. :roll:
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I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.
This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. :roll:
I definately see your point Sparky. I did get both of them off DP. What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry. Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.
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I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.
This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. :roll:
I definately see your point Sparky. I did get both of them off DP. What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry. Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.
You offered to trade not to sell right? whatever... you do what you want but is that extra profit worth it?
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I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.
This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. :roll:
I definately see your point Sparky. I did get both of them off DP. What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry. Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.
OH JESUS FORKING JONES WITH THE BOXES ALREADY. Like you'd really trade this game for a couple of boxes. Man you must think we're dumb. Only way you'd consider it is if it was for practically all or most of the boxes on your list (as if anyone here would just happen to have an extra set of all of them just lying around)- and even then with reservations. You had ZERO intention of really trading it here- as your actions now and your past tense choices of words on shout point to- so please- don't insult our intelligence with your "offer".
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What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.
That's because the guy that sold you yours obviously isn't trying to get his hands on one.
I decided awhile back that the PCE version will be the one I pick up, kinda just waiting for one to show up here as I really don't want to pay $180 for one on eBay and I haven't seen it anywhere else (though I know it's not as rare as the TG version).
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I never said $400 was the correct price for it. It's up there for $400 to see if anyone is dumb enough to bite on it.
This line really bugs me Roy, and shows me you are out for yourself to make a profit... and no there is nothing wrong with that at all, get your top dollar.... but you have a community here (and on DP i believe) that has helped you out on your search for this game you needed, i just thought you would offer the game up first here again to sell as without these places you would be still fishing in ebay with the rest of them. :roll:
I definately see your point Sparky. I did get both of them off DP. What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry. Sparky I did offer it here first to trade for boxes and I only got one reply that offered just a handful.
OH JESUS FORKING JONES WITH THE BOXES ALREADY. Like you'd really trade this game for a couple of boxes. Man you must think we're dumb. Only way you'd consider it is if it was for practically all or most of the boxes on your list (as if anyone here would just happen to have an extra set of all of them just lying around)- and even then with reservations. You had ZERO intention of really trading it here- as your actions now and your past tense choices of words on shout point to- so please- don't insult our intelligence with your "offer".
I never said I wanted to trade it for a couple boxes, why the f*ck would I do that? I would want a LOT of them. Don't tell me what my intentions are, you have no idea what they are. Once again your back at it, trying to sound the war drums and get everyone all pissed at me. Sad really.
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I am trying to make a profit on a game. Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.
You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.
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What I find funny about it though is that the same guy sold me both of them and wishes me the best with my auction yet everyone else is angry.
That's because the guy that sold you yours obviously isn't trying to get his hands on one.
I decided awhile back that the PCE version will be the one I pick up, kinda just waiting for one to show up here as I really don't want to pay $180 for one on eBay and I haven't seen it anywhere else (though I know it's not as rare as the TG version).
I think you hit the nail on the head here! I understand people want one, f*ck I did too. But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit? Someone in the world selling something for profit!!! That never happens in this world... LYNCH HIM!!!
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Someone in the world selling something for profit!!! That never happens in this world... LYNCH HIM!!!
Happens all the time in the WORLD Roy- but what you keep missing is that this is a COMMUNITY. We don't care for profiteers here- especially ones acting all buddy buddy just to get what they want then showing their real intentions- it's why some of us tend to sniff 'em out early- and you smelled like sweaty greed the second you entered...
Once again your back at it, trying to sound the war drums and get everyone all pissed at me. Sad really.
Is it sad? Because if that WAS what I was trying to do- it'd be working- and if it ISN'T (it isn't)- then it's just that everyone else sees clearly what a pig you are.
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I am trying to make a profit on a game. Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.
You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.
I didn't get it from this forum. I got it from a seller who set his price, I didn't even haggle. How exactly could I be stealing from this community when this community had nothing to do with it? Laughable
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I am trying to make a profit on a game. Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.
You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.
I didn't get it from this forum. I got it from a seller who set his price, I didn't even haggle. How exactly could I be stealing from this community when this community had nothing to do with it? Laughable
Someone here told you about DP and explained why you could not get to the selling area right away... so this place helped you right from the beginning.
Again do what you want but there will be no one here to stand behind you.
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I didn't get it from this forum.
Liar.
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I am trying to make a profit on a game. Very simple if you don't like it, don't buy it or make an offer on it.
You are trying to make a profit on a game that you convinced one of us to sell to you at less than ebay price. you are, in effect, stealing from this community.
I intend to do much more than not make an offer - I intend to make you, and whatever alt accounts you come up with, a pariah on this forum.
I didn't get it from this forum. I got it from a seller who set his price, I didn't even haggle. How exactly could I be stealing from this community when this community had nothing to do with it? Laughable
Someone here told you about DP and explained why you could not get to the selling area right away... so this place helped you right from the beginning.
Again do what you want but there will be no one here to stand behind you.
There wern't standing behind me in the first place. Just some standing in front of me because they didnt like me from the get go.
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I didn't get it from this forum.
Liar.
Liar? Look on digitpress. I bought both of them there.
You're right Sparky. Someone here mentioned digitpress at one time or another.
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Yet ANOTHER thing that I find amusing is Roy neglecting to mention on his little honest TRADE BOXES TO ME thread that the Magical Chase he has dangling there like a carrot is currently for sale on EBay.
Yeah Roy- I wonder why some didn't like you from the get go? Must be them, eh?
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There wern't standing behind me in the first place. Just some standing in front of me because they didnt like me from the get go.
So we were all a bunch of unfriendly, unhelpful pricks from the get go, eh? Perhaps you should just hop back in your clown car and ride away from this hostile circus. I promise not to cry.
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Yet ANOTHER thing that I find amusing is Roy neglecting to mention on his little honest TRADE BOXES TO ME thread that the Magical Chase he has dangling there like a carrot is currently for sale on EBay.
Yeah Roy- I wonder why some didn't like you from the get go? Must be them, eh?
It was in the trade section days before it was on eBay. Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
I didn't mean everyone was unhelpful Necro, just a handful that seem to dominate this forum with their shitty attitudes.
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It was in the trade section days before it was on eBay.
Where did I suggest that it wasn't? I'm saying exactly what I said- let me repeat- "Yet ANOTHER thing that I find amusing is Roy neglecting to mention on his little honest TRADE BOXES TO ME thread that the Magical Chase he has dangling there like a carrot is currently for sale on EBay." Seems pretty clear cut what I'm saying.
Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
Sure- because that's all these mindless sheep here can take, right? They can't think for themselves- they need ME of all people- the one who according to you no one can stand because of my attitude (this is pretty convoluted) to tell them how to think. Guyjin, Sparky, Geise, Necro, JPerryss, Nectar and Runin in shout- these are my mindless zombie soldiers. Onward soldiers!! Make Roy "Big Money" Vegas eat shit by nightfall- your heads depend on it! :twisted: :roll:
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BRAAAAAAAAAINS! =P~
Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! :lol:
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Speaking of hypocrites.....
But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit? Someone in the world selling something for profit!!! That never happens in this world... LYNCH HIM!!!
Too funny!!!! Are you kidding me? If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth. Wake up man!! i can't help what people are willing to pay. The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400. Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a f*cking dick I am! Go yell at the buyers man. lol
If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices? As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem? I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.
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Speaking of hypocrites.....
But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit? Someone in the world selling something for profit!!! That never happens in this world... LYNCH HIM!!!
Too funny!!!! Are you kidding me? If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth. Wake up man!! i can't help what people are willing to pay. The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400. Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a f*cking dick I am! Go yell at the buyers man. lol
If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices? As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem? I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.
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Nice find, necro!
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Speaking of hypocrites.....
But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit? Someone in the world selling something for profit!!! That never happens in this world... LYNCH HIM!!!
Too funny!!!! Are you kidding me? If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth. Wake up man!! i can't help what people are willing to pay. The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400. Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a f*cking dick I am! Go yell at the buyers man. lol
If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices? As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem? I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.
Interesting. The difference to me is that mine has the possiblility of selling at $400(you said so yourself) since there is one up at $750. Whereas his is Freakishly high. Keep digging for shit to fight over. GO GO GO!
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Speaking of hypocrites.....
But for people to jump all up in my shit for having an extra and selling it for a profit? Someone in the world selling something for profit!!! That never happens in this world... LYNCH HIM!!!
Too funny!!!! Are you kidding me? If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth. Wake up man!! i can't help what people are willing to pay. The Best offer is there for a reason, in case the market says its not worth $400. Holy hell, I might make a few dollars, what a f*cking dick I am! Go yell at the buyers man. lol
If this is truly how you feel, Roy, then why did you create this thread admonishing a seller for trying to sell a new Duo and TG-16 for outlandish prices? As in your auction, he is accepting offers and providing free shipping, so where's the problem? I guess you only approve of the free market when it's lining your pockets.
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Nice find, necro!
As the wagons circle!!! Warparty Go!
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BRAAAAAAAAAINS! =P~
Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! :lol:
If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong. Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.
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Im here because I enjoy the system,
You're here because you enjoy money. you think you can make it off us - you think we're easy marks. you're wrong.
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The difference to me is that mine has the possiblility of selling at $400(you said so yourself) since there is one up at $750.
I never stated that yours could sell for $400, though anything is possible. A week ago, I would've said that a boxed Magical Chase wouldn't go for more than $600, yet it is (ebay silliness knows no bounds).
Whereas his is Freakishly high.
That is irrelevant. Either it's okay to fish for the big bucks and settle for whatever the market will bear, or it isn't.
Keep digging for shit to fight over. GO GO GO!
One needn't dig to uncover your foolishness; it speaks for itself.
If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong. Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.
Good thing, 'cause you won't be gaining anyone's approval with your haughty attitude and abundant ignorance.
P.S. - You needn't triple post. Just use the enter key on your keyboard to start a new line.
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Im here because I enjoy the system,
You're here because you enjoy money. you think you can make it off us - you think we're easy marks. you're wrong.
That's a pretty good one there! Do you recall a post of me selling something? I've tried to sell 3-4 things on ebay in the last 6 years. You caught me there! I only recall me making threads asking to buy or trade for things. Can you show me different?
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BRAAAAAAAAAINS! =P~
Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! :lol:
If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong. Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.
A few??? Has anyone spoke up to support you man????
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I've tried to sell 3-4 things on ebay in the last 6 years.
I bet.
You caught me there! I only recall me making threads asking to buy or trade for things.
So you can sell 'em on epay. that's the point.
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BRAAAAAAAAAINS! =P~
Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! :lol:
If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong. Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.
A few??? Has anyone spoke up to support you man????
Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent. Just because people don't want to come out and be f*cking chastised by the few angry people does NOT mean that I am not supported. It just means they choose not to speak up and be trampled on.
People here have taken whatever they wanted from what they have read and just ran with it. There are a couple of people that know what the truth is. There are also a few monkeys running around throwing poo. Do they know the full story? Have they bothered to try and find out. Or is what you really see here people just throwing stones?
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done. Read it all yourself Sparky, people all over me.
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I've tried to sell 3-4 things on ebay in the last 6 years.
I bet.
You caught me there! I only recall me making threads asking to buy or trade for things.
So you can sell 'em on epay. that's the point.
Yeah, once again another monkey thowing poo.. Well now, lets take a look at my eBay account and see what my seller history... The link to it is earlier in this thread... Hmm I haven't sold jack shit. C'mon keep the brilliant ones coming.
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BRAAAAAAAAAINS! =P~
Keep the war drums a banging Sinistron.
Interesting metaphor you've got there. 'Cuz you're about to be drummed out of here! :lol:
If you think a few angry individuals can run me off, you're wrong. Im here because I enjoy the system, not because I seek anyones approval.
A few??? Has anyone spoke up to support you man????
Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent. Just because people don't want to come out and be f*cking chastised by the few angry people does NOT mean that I am not supported. It just means they choose not to speak up and be trampled on.
People here have taken whatever they wanted from what they have read and just ran with it. There are a couple of people that know what the truth is. There are also a few monkeys running around throwing poo. Do they know the full story? Have they bothered to try and find out. Or is what you really see here people just throwing stones?
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done. Read it all yourself Sparky, people all over me.
Roy, I warned you about this!
Listen, anytime there is something Turbo or PCE related that is selling for big bucks, there is ALWAYS massive complaining and bitching from people on this site. I've gotten my share of flack for the same time of thing. This is a great site, and I can certainly understand people's anger at certain games being crazy expensive. But, it's just the way it is. These things are collectibles now and a lot of them can go for big bucks. It's a pity not every Turbo fan can afford a Magical Chase, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one. Sometimes that is the only way to expand your collection and get new games.
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Well now, lets take a look at my eBay account and see what my seller history...
the seller history of one of your accounts.
Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.
if any of you are reading this, speak up - my beef is with resellers, not fellow forum members.
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.
your reasons are all to obvious.
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Well now, lets take a look at my eBay account and see what my seller history...
the seller history of one of your accounts.
Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.
if any of you are reading this, speak up - my beef is with resellers, not fellow forum members.
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done.
your reasons are all to obvious.
OMG you caught me!!!! I MUST have multiple eBay accounts, now is a f*cking conspiracy!! Dude, you watch to many movies.
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there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one.
There is something wrong with it when he got it off of one of us for far less than its epay value. Consider the following:
There is a village. You live in this village. people grow stuff, raise animals, make tools, etc. they trade amongst themselves; because it's in their best interest for the village to thrive, they sell their goods for less than they would in the big city market.
Then some kid comes along, buys a bunch of stuff from his neighbors so he can 'have a feast', but then runs off to the big city market to make big bucks off their stuff. He comes back with bags of money, and repeats the cycle. Soon, all the villagers have to go to the big city market, or charge big city prices themselves. There is no more advantage to living in the village; soon, they'll migrate to the big city, and the village will just be a bunch of rotten shacks where a community once lived.
I don't want that to happen here.
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OMG you caught me!!!! I MUST have multiple eBay accounts,
it's trivial to create them. Considering that you've already lied to us, why should we assume you're honest?
now is a f*cking conspiracy!! Dude, you watch to many movies.
A conspiracy requires 2 people, moron.
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Roy, I warned you about this!
Listen, anytime there is something Turbo or PCE related that is selling for big bucks, there is ALWAYS massive complaining and bitching from people on this site. I've gotten my share of flack for the same time of thing. This is a great site, and I can certainly understand people's anger at certain games being crazy expensive. But, it's just the way it is. These things are collectibles now and a lot of them can go for big bucks. It's a pity not every Turbo fan can afford a Magical Chase, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one. Sometimes that is the only way to expand your collection and get new games.
Geddon- the situation that went down with you (to which- the big bully that I am, came out in defense of you https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4864.15) doesn't apply here. The situation with you was mostly Sign of Zeta getting in your face about an item that he wouldn't even consider buying to begin with- and your prices seemed fair- at least to a good many members. Secondly- it's not merely about who can or who can't afford a Magical Chase (I CAN- even at Roy's prices) -- but it's about setting ridiculous prices for this game- which will make this game harder and harder for ANYONE to find at a decent price. We're dealing with a reseller here- one who had help from the community a number of times- one who even got his system initially for like ten bucks with games or whatever- one who knows the delight in finding something cheap- but has no intention of helping anyone else out- just in lining his pockets and getting his pristine collection. He has his Magical Chase listed on his trade thread while at the same time he clandestinely has it listed on Ebay for a gouged price- was making buddy buddy on this thread which is about- lo and behold- an overpriced Magical Chase auction. He has fibbed as to his intentions- has contradicted himself on his opinion of overpricing (as pointed out by Necro) - has claimed that I am jealous of him and his holy collection, and really has nothing to say in his own defense other than some nonsense about war drums and hey I'm just trying to turn a profit and see how dumb people are. Geddon- forget not that this is first and foremost a community- not a TG buyers and sellers market populated by resellers and price gougers.
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hmm...11 replies while I've been typing this. I'm just going to post it and hope it's still valid.
If it sells for $400 then thats what the market says it's worth.
Even without BIN, things generally sell on ebay for a little more than they're worth because one has to outbid everyone else on the planet and all of the resellers. We all have different views on what's fair, but it has always struck me as lame to to find a good deal and then set a new higher price. The Best Offer is a sort of nice gesture but this is not technically an auction and I don't see this as different than sellers like GameSquad.
Personally, there have been a couple of times I've decided to part with things that I got a good deal on and I've felt pretty awkward setting a price. What I usually do is a ten day auction, start it at a buck and make sure I do a damn good job of getting every key word possible in the item listing. Doing this gives everybody a chance to get involved, as opposed to just the handful of high budget bidders, which creates a frenzy that rockets the price up in the last few hours. Well-listed auctions with nice pictures, a good description and a low starting point do surprisingly well and no one can be accused of price gouging. (After I got the U.S. version of Terraforming, I sold my PCE copy I bought for $40 and watched is go from $0.99 to $129).
Anyway, Roy got the loose version first, so I can see why he's parting with it. Hoping to trade it for boxes is a long shot, but makes sense in that those are all he needs for his collection (being open to some boxes + cash would probably increase his chances).
As far as the four hundred dollars goes, people tend to reach a consensus on prices after hanging around here for a year or two and I've seen lots of newcomers show up on the boards with prices in their heads that freak people out (myself included). Roy's still fairly new around here and is trying to decide what to do with a game that he got for a good deal but could probably get a bundle for on ebay. Without having spent the last five years hanging out with us bitching about scumbags like Bullseye, a high BIN price with the Best Offer option probably seemed like a fair compromise. Again, it's not what I would do, but I'm trying to play devil's advocate and put myself in his shoes (sorry to keep talking about you in the third person, Roy.) Sinistron and other have some good points, but Roy has made some good contributions on the boards and shouldn't be demonized.
OK, that's my two cents. And hey, please watch the F-Bombs and potty mouthing! Everyone! Thanks.
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People here have taken whatever they wanted from what they have read and just ran with it. There are a couple of people that know what the truth is. There are also a few monkeys running around throwing poo. Do they know the full story? Have they bothered to try and find out. Or is what you really see here people just throwing stones?
Noone is trying to ask me any reasoning on anything I have done. Read it all yourself Sparky, people all over me.
So what part of the story are we missing? Though you've berated others for similar behavior, it's abundantly clear that you're not above selling for massive profits and at the expense of members of the gaming community (if you buy something at an honest price and resell it for profit, then you're depriving others from buying it at the better price).
I don't have a closed mind and this is an honest question, so please don't dismiss it out of hand. You've chosen to pick up the cross of martyrdom, so convince me that I'm wrong.
Listen, anytime there is something Turbo or PCE related that is selling for big bucks, there is ALWAYS massive complaining and bitching from people on this site. I've gotten my share of flack for the same time of thing. This is a great site, and I can certainly understand people's anger at certain games being crazy expensive. But, it's just the way it is.
We rarely bitch about things selling for what they're worth, but rather when someone is asking (or sometimes receiving) far more than the normal value for the given item. The problem doesn't lie in the value of Magical Chase, but rather in Roy lying about his intentions and taking away others' chance at getting the game for an honest price.
These things are collectibles now and a lot of them can go for big bucks. It's a pity not every Turbo fan can afford a Magical Chase, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one. Sometimes that is the only way to expand your collection and get new games.
And had he stated that he wanted to make as much money as possible, far fewer people would care. Alas, he did not; instead he stated that he'd try to help out the community and offer it here first, which he most certainly did not do. In this instance, Roy has irrefutably been both a liar and a hypocrite.
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Ya know Roy you already had a Magical Chase and then bought another. Now you're selling it at some crazy price. Why the hell did you want another to begin with? If you have the money to buy all these Magical Chase games then why do you need to resell it so high. Why not start the bid low and let people fight over it. Then set a reserve if you want. Rather than slamming a buy it now and hoping some (probably a reseller that doesn't play games) buys it for that insane price.
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Ya know Roy you already had a Magical Chase and then bought another. Now you're selling it at some crazy price. Why the hell did you want another to begin with?
He started with a loosey-goosey, bought another one with a manual, and is now selling the first copy. There's nothing wrong with trading up.
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Ya know Roy you already had a Magical Chase and then bought another. Now you're selling it at some crazy price. Why the hell did you want another to begin with?
He started with a loosey-goosey, bought another one with a manual, and is now selling the first copy. There's nothing wrong with trading up.
Thats totally correct. I bought a loose one and the same seller messaged me again saying he had one with a manual.. Which I bought for the manual. I took the card in the best shape for myself and am getting rid of the other.
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Perhaps I jumped in too soon. I didn't realize that Roy had gotten a favorable price on the loose cart from a forum member. That being the case, yes, it does kind of suck that it is up on ebay now, rather than a similarly favorable price being offered to another forum member in need.
So please modify my response accordingly. :)
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Perhaps I jumped in too soon. I didn't realize that Roy had gotten a favorable price on the loose cart from a forum member. That being the case, yes, it does kind of suck that it is up on ebay now, rather than a similarly favorable price being offered to another forum member in need.
So please modify my response accordingly. :)
He didn't get the cart from a forum member- he was directed by a forum member where to find one...
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Directed where to find one? Someone mentioning digitpress as a site to check into isn't quite a reference of where to buy one... Might as well have said "hey check ebay". Its not like a member here said "hey ask this specific guy"
But yes, the site was recommended to me, but not any specific person.
Edited for a late post.
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So now two people have posted in a positive nature as to me not being some type of monster. Maybe the whole site doesn't support me, but some do... I would like to thank the people going against the opinions of the angry mob against me. It takes some balls to stand up and not just run with the crowd. Thanks guys
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I'm sure it's a bummer to feel like you lost a chance at a rarity like MC, and I can't defend what Roy decided to do with his extra MC, but to jump to the conclusion that he's a scam artist, 'reseller', running multiple eBay accounts, or even close to the same level as that crazy bitch who threw a cat in the oven, is ridiculous IMO. Some of us only collect, some of us only play, but 90% of us probably fall in the middle somewhere. Roy's obviously a collector first, and until you see all his stuff show up on eBay, it's pretty hard to argue the scammer/reseller angle.
I mean, some kid gets caught shoplifting from Wal-Mart, do you automatically assume he punches babies and smokes crack also?
If I had ANY intentions of getting a US Magical Chase someday, maybe it'd bother me more. But really, I've bought NES lots to get a handful of games that I wanted, then eBay'd the rest. And I've traded stuff I had for stuff I wanted more. I don't think that makes me a reseller, and definitely not a scammer.
Or a baby puncher. :mrgreen:
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Directed where to find one? Someone mentioning digitpress as a site to check into isn't quite a reference of where to buy one... Might as well have said "hey check ebay". Its not like a member here said "hey ask this specific guy"
But yes, the site was recommended to me, but not any specific person.
Edited for a late post.
First off Roy- I love how you try to blast apart the little things- but really have nothing to say about the larger points- secondly Roy- fail. What exactly are you arguing about? I said someone directed you where to find one- digitpress or whatever is the WHERE- is this not sound? No- might not as well have said "check EBay" because certainly you already did on your own- not from someone else's reference -- and what the hell do you mean "not by any specific person"? if it was on shout then the person who told you is surely a "specific" person- not one of many melting faces belonging to a giant simulacrum- you may not remember the name of the person who advised you (the grateful cat that you are) but that doesn't make whoever it was less of an entity.
jperry- I'm not sure who you're referring to but out of your list the only thing I called Roy was a reseller (in tandem with price gouger)- and the definition of reseller alone is someone who resells something he bought. The word by itself does not mean something evil or wicked- it's the type of reseller that brings the bad connotation.
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The price of Magical Chase is what the market pays for it Sinistron, not just what YOU personally think it's worth"
No offense, WE are the market for Turbo games.
ebay is just profiteers, idiots, and "OMG RETRO GAEM" collectors.
I offer you 20 monies. A fair price I'd say!
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[quote="RoyVegas""The price of Magical Chase is what the market pays for it Sinistron, not just what YOU personally think it's worth"
No offense, WE are the market for Turbo games.
ebay is just profiteers, idiots, and "OMG RETRO GAEM" collectors.
I offer you 20 monies. A fair price I'd say!
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True Arkhan you are part of the market.. This website is not the only part of the market though. People here think $750 is to much to pay for a boxed Magical Chase, so do I. But there is still a market for it, just not on this site.
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Ten replies while I'm writing this. Here's a third-party observation.
I'm a newer member, and have owned a Japanese copy of Magical Chase in the past; I sold it for $75 in 2003, waaaay before I joined here. I sold it on eBay and was happy to get the money to pay for schoolbooks. I have no regrets, and may end up owning another Japanese copy someday, but there are so many other games that I would rather play first it's kind of low on my list. Not as low as J.J. & Jeff. I do not own a single American TG title.
Sparky, there are people that choose to speak up and there are people that choose to remain silent.
if any of you are reading this, speak up - my beef is with resellers, not fellow forum members.
My issue is not with Capitalism; I have had an eBay account since 1998, and have sold everything from car parts to art prints.
However; What you did is a bit different, Roy.
You engaged a community of people who you knew were willing to help you source the effective "Holy Grail" of their American collections. You befriended people and attempted to gain their trust, and stated quite plainly "I get what I want." You posted about the ridiculousness of the high prices on eBay, and even started a thread or two that Necromancer pointed out. You THEN listed the item at an insanely high price with little or no mention to the community that helped you source the Grail. The end result making a few jealous and a few more angry. It wasn't wrong, per se, it was just hypocritical. Some people are responding to the ethics in question. IMHO.
Unfortunately, you are gouging the market (validated when you stated that you wanted to see if someone was "stupid" enough to pay for it) by artificially inflating the price by over 250%. This could result (if a few copycat sellers pick this up) in the eBay precedent for MC loose at $400. People are reacting to the fact that you may be driving the price up overall, creating more of a disparity between those who have and those who covet Magical Chase. You have every right to do this, and as a businessman myself I hope you get as much money as you can for the Hu-Card; because if and when it goes through you won't have very many acquaintances left here after the auction.
I hope that's not the conclusion.
I'm just curious what makes your auction ethical, and the $2500 boxed duo so horrible. That's the other conflict in your posts that hasn't been answered. Thanks for the response in advance. I'm going to go play Coryoon.
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I think guyjin said it best:
there is absolutely nothing wrong with Roy trying to make as much money as he can off his loose one.
There is something wrong with it when he got it off of one of us for far less than its epay value. Consider the following:
There is a village. You live in this village. people grow stuff, raise animals, make tools, etc. they trade amongst themselves; because it's in their best interest for the village to thrive, they sell their goods for less than they would in the big city market.
Then some kid comes along, buys a bunch of stuff from his neighbors so he can 'have a feast', but then runs off to the big city market to make big bucks off their stuff. He comes back with bags of money, and repeats the cycle. Soon, all the villagers have to go to the big city market, or charge big city prices themselves. There is no more advantage to living in the village; soon, they'll migrate to the big city, and the village will just be a bunch of rotten shacks where a community once lived.
As a community we've always prided ourselves at having the ability to be a "few miles from the big city" as guyjin put it, and with that having the ability to fairly trade amongst ourselves as just a bunch of people that love to play TurboGrafx games. What might come across as animosity towards you, RoyVegas, is a certain global disdain that most members here share for a certain type of "big city" (eBay) seller that artificially inflates pricing by posting BIN auctions listed with ridiculous price points. Many of them know these items will never be sold, but they let them sit there and fester for years on end. The effect of this is being played out before us, right here, as we speak, in this thread. Newcomers to the scene resort (and the true effectiveness of this can be debated) to eBay first as a "pricing guide" for this kind of thing, figuring (as you did) that shit, if this is what people are charging, and paying, it must be what these games are worth. What you don't consider though, is that the people paying these inflated prices are the same poor saps that were led up the garden path by the inflated BINs set by sellers that set them that way to have that precise effect. The sad thing is, that it works. It's a circular system that has no perceivable beginning or end; I've observed this happening over the past 8 or so years with Turbo games, since I joined eBay in 2001, and every time I think we've hit the top the ridiculousness hits new heights. I highly doubt your intentions in this case were in line with the aforementioned scumbag sellers, but the effect is the same, and your situation is compounded by a reason I'll touch on below.
This community is quick to accept newcomers into the fold, RoyVegas, but you'll find it just as quick to chastise those who betray it. There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with putting games up on eBay to make a quick buck, or to try and profit a few dollars from a sweet score you've made in the past. Don't expect to make a lot of friends, however, when you show up asking for help in tracking down an elusive title only to turn around and post it back up for sale in the "big city" at a 600% markup (purely an example; I don't pretend to know how much you're really trying to make). Most people here are willing to cut killer deals for fellow community members; members they know will play the hell out of the game, love it, and see it utilized to its full potential. I realize you didn't actually buy the game from a member here, but members here aided in tracking down a copy for you (forgoing, in the process, the chance to buy said copy for themselves). I can't say I blame the community at large for being a little put off when the time came for you to turn around and sell that game, that instead of turning it loose back on the community, you opted for the "big city" approach, at the same time feeding that circular system that can be thanked for making a certain percentage of Turbo gaming simply unaffordable for a portion of the community.
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