Another one I thought could be adjusted is:
Magical Chase- 200.00+ ($400.00)
as far as magical chase was concerned I kinda went with I wont pay more than 200.00 LOL so I will probably never own one
Hey Vestcoat what did you mean by the "Slip" in the Vasteel CD rom game? Did you mean the map/poster?
AHA Roy! :) There is the slightest ding on the top left (right in picture) edge of the slip cover in your photo! :-({|= I sing sad notes of sympathy for the "ding" in your otherwise pristine, smudge free, glossy, felt dressed copy of Vasteel.
Good looking on the Slip Vegas. I didn't even know about it. I wonder why W.D. never tried to bring the second game to the U.S.I would guess the sales were kinda so so, plus the Duo was already being taken of store shelves at EB and other stores. The Duo was starting to die and WD was already moving onto the Sega CD.
Good looking on the Slip Vegas. I didn't even know about it. I wonder why W.D. never tried to bring the second game to the U.S.I would guess the sales were kinda so so, plus the Duo was already being taken of store shelves at EB and other stores. The Duo was starting to die and WD was already moving onto the Sega CD.
The problem with the hunt, (and your theory) is that as time goes on, the rarer games get more and more expensive, and the longer you hunt, the more expensive they get, especially in the open market, and the more people become aware that they're worth a lot, the more people you end up with in the hunt...
I suppose I could wait year after year, garage sale hunting, forum searching, etc... but I don't enjoy scavenger hunting, I have a day job, I have 3 kids, and a wife. For me, the hunt is just a PITA. :-)
My feeling is that with a lot of these games, good deals are going to get fewer and farther in-between, and a good forum deal a year from now may very well be what I can get it for on ebay today.
EDIT: look i do not mean to keep on with the ebay hate i just hate seeing fellower gamers/collectors give up and pay the big bucks over there to sellers that are laughing all the way to the bank. <<sigh>>
Then ebay is your answer and that is fine, pay the so called "market value" and get the game asap.
Why exactly isn't this thread stickied?Well, winddancer isn't a member anymore and hasn't updated his post for a year and a half.
Hi all i know I'm new and haven't really had time to be on here but i did find a Racketboy kinda gives the going rate for all TG 16/Due/PC engine rare games. Ill post the link.
I thought these was kinda up to speed.
Hi all i know I'm new and haven't really had time to be on here but i did find a Racketboy kinda gives the going rate for all TG 16/Due/PC engine rare games. Ill post the link.
I thought these was kinda up to speed.
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/turbografx-16/2010/07/the-rarest-most-valuable-pc-engine-turbografx-16-games.html (ftp://http://www.racketboy.com/retro/turbografx-16/2010/07/the-rarest-most-valuable-pc-engine-turbografx-16-games.html)
Resellers are always looking for some sort of starting point to start their price gougery.
The US library is small enough where if you stick around long enough, you'll get an idea of rare an item is and how much it is truly worth just by hanging out here in the forums. I think it is safe to say that most of us that have been active here for at least six months can "do the math" inside our heads.Absolutely true.
Aside from the possibility of finding games at flea markets and thrift/pawn shops, where else can you really go to find them at a resonable price?*Seriously do a yellow pages search and call all the non-Gamestop game shops in your area or check their web sites. Repeat every couple years. I've been surprised. Prices usually aren't particularly cheap, nor are the games terribly rare, but it's fun to walk into a real store.
Except for the copy of Insanity I just purchased from Arkhan, I haven't bought a turbo game since Meteor Blast DX because of prices.It may seem like we've got it rough, but, unless you're looking for shrinkwrap or CIB, there are only about a dozen U.S. games that sell for more than the original retail price. Paying forty bucks for a used, eighteen-year-old game without the box like Neutopia 2 sucks, but we probably all make more money than when Toys R' Us stocked it for the same amount. I know that this is obvious and of small consolation: the prices are inflated and the games should be cheaper. Still, it's a good reality check to keep in mind.
*Seriously do a yellow pages search and call all the non-Gamestop game shops in your area or check their web sites. Repeat every couple years. I've been surprised. Prices usually aren't particularly cheap, nor are the games terribly rare, but it's fun to walk into a real store.
*The are still online vendors with reasonable prices. More for the PC Engine, but common, uncommon, and slightly-rare TG games can still be found outside of ebay. Creative use of - ~ and quotation marks will get you there.
*Like BlueBMW said, this is your best source. There are also a couple other retro-friendly forums with some degree of traffic in TG games.
*Ebay sucks, but, approximately once a year, the stars align and any given rare game (other than MC + DH) goes for a reasonable price. Sometimes an auction somehow goes unnoticed by the a$$holes, sometimes it's a short-lived BIN, sometimes a stupidly-listed item (not every seller uses the words "turbo grafx" :wink:).
*Also on ebay, nothing brings down the price of a game like a dirty, old TurboGrafx console - consider buying such lots if they contain the game you seek.
*Craiglist. Gamegavel.
*Seriously do a yellow pages search and call all the non-Gamestop game shops in your area or check their web sites. Repeat every couple years. I've been surprised. Prices usually aren't particularly cheap, nor are the games terribly rare, but it's fun to walk into a real store.
*The are still online vendors with reasonable prices. More for the PC Engine, but common, uncommon, and slightly-rare TG games can still be found outside of ebay. Creative use of - ~ and quotation marks will get you there.
*Like BlueBMW said, this is your best source. There are also a couple other retro-friendly forums with some degree of traffic in TG games.
*Ebay sucks, but, approximately once a year, the stars align and any given rare game (other than MC + DH) goes for a reasonable price. Sometimes an auction somehow goes unnoticed by the a$$holes, sometimes it's a short-lived BIN, sometimes a stupidly-listed item (not every seller uses the words "turbo grafx" :wink:).
*Also on ebay, nothing brings down the price of a game like a dirty, old TurboGrafx console - consider buying such lots if they contain the game you seek.
*Craiglist. Gamegavel.
Its true. Most people in most towns don't even know that the indy shop right down the street even exists. Its really sad, IMO.
Also, it really depends on where you live, but Craigslist is f*ckING AWESOME. There is more cool shit going for next to nothing on CL than I have time in my day to pick the stuff up. I don't actually look for Turbo stuff, but there is a Laseractive with Sega PAC for $300 OBO in my town, I know that much.
Its true. Most people in most towns don't even know that the indy shop right down the street even exists. Its really sad, IMO.Even if the local retro store doesn't usually have a big selection, it's easy to befriend the owners and get them on the lookout for you, as they don't usually know any other turbografx fans.
I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.
I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.
Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.
I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.
Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.
I Disagree.
How are new members that are just getting into collecting the system supposed to know thier values?? Check Ebay?? That place is so overprices its ridiculous. Also, I keep hearing from respected members that the prices on the forum are a lot cheaper and more reasonable. Without a guide for people, where is a new person supposed to start? I feel like every time I am interested I have to go on a quest to try to find the value of a game. I feel like I just bother people buy asking so many times.
I say update that price guide.
I think having a price guide here stickied is overall a bad idea.
Agreed. I always hope that this thread will finally die.
I Disagree.
How are new members that are just getting into collecting the system supposed to know thier values?? Check Ebay?? That place is so overprices its ridiculous. Also, I keep hearing from respected members that the prices on the forum are a lot cheaper and more reasonable. Without a guide for people, where is a new person supposed to start? I feel like every time I am interested I have to go on a quest to try to find the value of a game. I feel like I just bother people buy asking so many times.
I say update that price guide.
So you want other people to do the work regularly so you won't have to? ;) It doesn't make a difference, because as people have been telling you, there is no such thing as an accurate guide. Feel free to inquire about titles you are interested in. If anyone is bothered by it, that's their problem and they're free to not respond.
The only kind of accurate pricing invloves a lot of range and various conditions that need to be described.
Hey Dan, you did a pretty good job with that list. With that being said, the problem is that that you give the price ranges of what people gouge at on ebay, which is what most of don't want to pay. Finding great deals online is getting harder and harder each day. Alot of the longtimers here know what stuff is 'truly worth' which is why you find much better deals on the forums. As stated before, we don't want resellers having access to this information.
Being a US collector, I just noticed that most of these price ranges approximated the going rates on ebay with the exception of the TTI CD games such as Beyond Shadowgate and the like.
But yeah, I try to stay away from purchasing turbo games on ebay as much as possible. Most of my purchases come from the forums, retro gaming shops in Chicago and Craigslist.
I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?
I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?
You paid a bit more than most people here might consider a fair price for it.
I just paid $180 for Beyond Shadowgate myself. Did I get ripped off or is that game just increasing in value that quickly?7 people on the "steaming pile" tread bought/sold it for $100 or less.
I have no authority over what happens on pcedai other than uploading images;
However, there is a "notes" tab, which in my opinion is more than sufficient.
Duo_R's idea is a good one and is as far as I go would ever go towards any sort of "price list," personally.
Also, just for arguments sake here is what I paid for a lot of the "expensive" games vs. what is on DragonmasterDan's list:
Beyond Shadowgate $70 in 2008-2009 (listed $100-$400)
Dynastic Hero $200 in 2008 (listed $350-$500) * My second most expensive game purchased, ever.
Exile WP $50 in 2009 (listed $70-$90)
Syd Mead's Terraforming $45 in 2008 (listed $90-$120)
Magical Chase $165 in 2008-2009 (listed $400-$650) * Third most expensive game purchased, ever.
Anything pre-2008 like DE II, Bonk 3, etc I've left off (even though I still paid less than the "range" for everything) just because that's going back a bit far, all the way to the 90s in some cases.
My only point here is pointing out what a bad idea price guides are.
Maybe I got ripped off but I also really wanted the game too and the game was local too so I jumped at the chance before it passed by. 1 down, 4 more Duo games to go!
Duo_R's idea is a good one and is as far as I go would ever go towards any sort of "price list," personally.
Also, just for arguments sake here is what I paid for a lot of the "expensive" games vs. what is on DragonmasterDan's list:
Beyond Shadowgate $70 in 2008-2009 (listed $100-$400)
Dynastic Hero $200 in 2008 (listed $350-$500) * My second most expensive game purchased, ever.
Exile WP $50 in 2009 (listed $70-$90)
Syd Mead's Terraforming $45 in 2008 (listed $90-$120)
Magical Chase $165 in 2008-2009 (listed $400-$650) * Third most expensive game purchased, ever.
Anything pre-2008 like DE II, Bonk 3, etc I've left off (even though I still paid less than the "range" for everything) just because that's going back a bit far, all the way to the 90s in some cases.
My only point here is pointing out what a bad idea price guides are.
I never had 400 in there.
Anyway, if you'd like to revise the guide I'm fine with it but I'm trying to make something that is at least fairly reflective of what someone should expect to pay for games.
The whole idea of a price guide stems from a profit-based, collector mindset. Somebody dying to play Order of the Griffon isn't going to consult a price guide, they're going to go out and buy it as cheap as they can find it. Once a price guide is published, a peanut gallery of collectors suddenly appears and starts buying up every game they find priced lower than the quoted amount. Furthermore, as prices become codified, things become more difficult for the casual seller as well - try selling comics without a CGC rating.
Guys there is big truth in what your saying about not having a price guide and i hear ya but other places do, like racketboy, digitpress & some others and there terribly miss leading, isn't it in our best interest to have something better, a say at least.
Nothing is going to be perfect but to help stop a new guy from going to ebay and over paying would make me happy. This community establishing some ground rules, base prices and guides for buying thats all <<shrugs>>
Something on the first page of the buy and sell may keep the "oh my god rare" dicks out but also guide the new guy, I see it more for the good.
sorry guys, hope i am not missing the point :(
PS: vestcoat someone dieing to play a game like Order of the Griffon may also bite at the first copy they see, with no guidance on fair prices.
Nothing is going to be perfect but to help stop a new guy from going to ebay and over paying would make me happy. This community establishing some ground rules, base prices and guides for buying thats all <<shrugs>>
There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase.
There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase. There are other collector based communities where people are willing to pay $500 - $5000. Even with a disclaimer, I don't think that those numerical values on their own are very useful to anybody.
I would pay $100 for magical chase :)
There is an entire community here who would only pay $5 - $100 for Turbo Magical Chase. There are other collector based communities where people are willing to pay $500 - $5000. Even with a disclaimer, I don't think that those numerical values on their own are very useful to anybody.
they are useful me. Now I know if i am at a shop, or deal with a member what a good price is for a game.
Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes- 40 – 60
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Dragon Slayer - $30
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Dragon Slayer - $30
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Or eBay copies sold for $22.50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Slayer-Turbo-Grafx-CD-/180635472119?pt=US_Vintage_Video_Games&hash=item2a0eb690f7) - $25 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Dragon-Slayer-Legend-Heroes-TurboGrafx-CD-/110654572354?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19c386c742) shipped.
I would pay $100 for magical chase :)
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Not too long ago, I bought these from a member on these boards-
Dragon Slayer Complete with Map $35
Dracula X Complete $75
Along with a few other games. He discounted the total and included shipping. His ad specified that he was looking to do package deals, so the base individual prices took that into consideration.
I also picked up this lot which included a complete TG-16, Turbo-CD set (minus the CD-ROM), Parasol Stars complete, plus several other games for $70 shipped express. On eBay the Turbo-CD case alone would ask a price like that. It's also basically DragonmasterDan's high end Parasol Stars price + the cost to ship the lot.
Even with a disclaimer like "what to expect on eBay", full price lists are still only going to inflate asking prices.
The reason I'm wanting a list to be put together is quite frankly because this community has a tendency to be a bit harsh to new users trying to buy or sell things. And with a reasonably up to date guide as a point of reference to point new users to we can avoid hall of shame like incidents from occurring.
What makes you think a price list would make any difference? People coming here to pimp ebay sales or offer us 'sweet deals' can't be bothered to look for a price list (this thread is over two years old and yet the gougers keep popping up), and they're often asking for a premium on the price lists they do know of (racketboy/digitpress/eBay) anyway.
What makes you think a price list would make any difference? People coming here to pimp ebay sales or offer us 'sweet deals' can't be bothered to look for a price list (this thread is over two years old and yet the gougers keep popping up), and they're often asking for a premium on the price lists they do know of (racketboy/digitpress/eBay) anyway.
It might not make a difference in most cases, but it at least gives us an up to date guide to point users at rather than having them curse people out and complain we have no point of reference for complaining about gouging.
| Title (Region) | FAIR PRICE (CIB, Loose) | PROFITEERING SCUMBAG PRICE (CIB, Loose) |
| Magical Chase (NA) | $80-120, $20-40 | $140, $50 |
The last US Magical chase auction ended at like 2000 bucks on ebay.Doesn't mean squirt.
I don't see the harm in creating an anti-gouging reference guide.
DMDan does have a point. I don't see the harm in creating an anti-gouging reference guide.
Title (Region) FAIR PRICE (CIB, Loose) PROFITEERING SCUMBAG PRICE (CIB, Loose) Magical Chase (NA) $80-120, $20-40 $140, $50
DMDan does have a point. I don't see the harm in creating an anti-gouging reference guide.
I appreciate what you guys are trying to do, but those prices are pipe dreams, so why bother.
You have to be a scumbag to sell a CIB Magical Chase for $140? Let's get real here.
Any subjective price is a fair price, but who would sell their copy of USA magical chase for that pathetic price.
No one!
I'd sell mine for what I bought it for-- $165.Ouch. May I ask to whom you sold it?
Oh, wait, already did that. And then the scumbag threw it up on eBay a few months later for like $700.
I'd sell mine for what I bought it for-- $165.Ouch. May I ask to whom you sold it?
Oh, wait, already did that. And then the scumbag threw it up on eBay a few months later for like $700.
I would like to be gouged on some MC action.I think this is understood. Your last twenty-three posts have all either mentioned Magical Chase or been posted in Magical-Chase-related threads.
It was a former member here. I don't need to name names, but they haven't posted here in a year or two.
esteban, it was.... two years or so ago. I'm pretty sure you were gone on one of your mystery hiatuses during that time.
This was/is a great idea thank you.
I would like to be gouged on some MC action.I think this is understood. Your last twenty-three posts have all either mentioned Magical Chase or been posted in Magical-Chase-related threads.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
- English proverb.
The nail that stands up gets hammered down.
- Japanese proverb.
I wonder why this thread was never made a sticky?