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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Console Chat => Topic started by: Gogan on June 19, 2009, 05:25:39 AM
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Got anything on this fine machine? Thinkin about pickin one up, and would appreciate sum opnions on it. I've seen videos and it looks pretty cool.
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I had one when it was first released back in '93 i think. There is a lot of trash on the system, but there are a few gems too. Tempest 2000, Wolfenstein, and Alien vs. Predator are a few great games. If you get the CD-ROM attachment there is a very decent version of Flashback available :)
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I own the Atari Jag+CD and about 47ish games for it. heh. It's a pretty fun system to take a run on and show your friends. However, if you're expecting something magnificent, you will be let down. Most of the games feel unfinished imo, kinda like Atari released the betas and gave up on them. lol. So, buy at your own risk and do so for amusement purposes only.
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I have 61 games, I love most of them, but, not in the same way I love games for other systems. Alot of them do feel kinda, unpolished.
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Worth it for Tempest 2000 alone.
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Alien Vs. Predator was the only game I played for the system, and it was f***ing awesome.
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I had a Jaguar before and it was a ok machine but if you can get a good deal on one then go for it but be sure to get a copy of Tempest 2000 for it because it is the one game i feel is worth owning a Jag for. :D
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Some of the newer games are really cool, like Hyper Force(run & gun) & Skyhammer(if you like PS1 era 3D shmups).
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Gogan, what other systems do you own? I always thought of the Jag as kind of a last ditch console to collect for. Meaning theres A LOT better out there.
Do you have:
a 3do, Saturn, PS1, or an Amiga?
I'd go with one of those before Jaguar.
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Hmm, I think the Jag is better then 3DO, I have about 70 games for 3DO, & there's deffinitly more games I like on Jag. The Amiga CD32 doesn't seem to have all the much to rave about either, but, I have one anyways.
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Gogan, what other systems do you own? I always thought of the Jag as kind of a last ditch console to collect for. Meaning theres A LOT better out there.
Do you have:
a 3do, Saturn, PS1, or an Amiga?
I'd go with one of those before Jaguar.
Don't have any of those, had ps1, but had to sell my "classic systems" a while ago, except my duo of course....the 3do does interest me though! I'm not really a "hardcore gamer" per se, but rather a classic gaming fan that enjoys the older stuff more so than newer gen systems.
I find "rare, sealed" games.....and rip 'em open and play to my hearts content!
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I figure the Jaguars should stay in the hands of its fans - it would be wasted on me.
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Atari Jaguar fans are a savage lot for sure they are crazier than Sega fanboys(I hope i did not offend the Sega Fanboys and/or Jag fans). :D
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no offense taken - I know I'm crazy. :shock:
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jag is alright. i never had one when it was new, or even played one for that matter. just got one recently and...well you definitely have to have an appreciation for what goes into making a videogame to find some enjoyment with these. basically as was said, every game feels very unpolished, unfinished, or just vastly lacking in quality when compared to the more mainstream consoles.
many games suffer from really low frame rates, which is i think the biggest turn off. some games like tempest and rayman are excellent. some, like checkered flag, are not. i actually really like cybermorph and would love to try battlemorph but i dont have a cd.
i got a 3do at the same time and...its terrible. i dont know if its just my console or all 3dos (i could never get a straight answer out of anyone) but they exhibit some serious interlace flicker. the screen practically jumps up and down its so bad, and ive tried it on multiple tvs. it actually looks better on an lcd hdtv simply because it cant flicker. the games more often than not suffer from poor framerates (15-20fps) and nearly every game worth playing has been ported to saturn or ps1. many games have that multimedia cd-rom feel, or just an unfinished unpolished one.
while the jag has a few "true classics" (rayman, tempest, avp...though the first two are on saturn and psx) the 3do's library is largely forgettable.
theyre both neat systems to try out but you might tire of them quickly. i really kinda regret getting them as it was quite a bit of money that couldve been used more productively. and i already have a saturn and ps1. i just didnt know so many of the games were just not worth it. the flicker of the 3do just kills it (gives me a headace), and the low framerates of most jag games kill them too.
i briefly compared tempest 2000 on jag and saturn and if you dont play one, you wont be able to tell what youre missing. i think the saturn has some scoring bugs or differences, the star field patterns seem to be different, and the shading/coloring on the playfield is a little different (jag actually looks better.) the saturn one has a better framerate.
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i briefly compared tempest 2000 on jag and saturn and if you dont play one, you wont be able to tell what youre missing. i think the saturn has some scoring bugs or differences, the star field patterns seem to be different, and the shading/coloring on the playfield is a little different (jag actually looks better.) the saturn one has a better framerate.
I didn't realize that they made Tempest 2k for the Saturn. Is it hard to find?
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there are a few copies on ebay in the 20-100 range.
the high side is obviously inflated complete or "sealed" copies. ebay is a mess anymore, but thats another topic entirely.
i dont think its harder than any typical us saturn release to find. i believe it was released in japan as well as the uk.
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Hyper Force(run & gun)
More like "walk & gun". :wink: Seriously though, it looks like Zillion, which isn't a bad thing.
Skyhammer(if you like PS1 era 3D shmups)
I still haven't played it on real hardware, but it looks more like Metal Head 32X, without the floors.
I recently got back into Jaguar after picking up a console and 10 games or so. I loved Doom and Wolfenstein back in the day, but only got to rent a few others before going back to playing games for more mainstream systems. After getting the new system recently, I held off from playing it until I got an S-Video cable. In the meantime I checked out youtube videos for most of the games I now have and was pretty excited to play them.
However, once I did, I was disappointed. Most were less impressive in person and were hard to control. I'm probably going to buy a new pad to see if that helps, but as it is, I can't control Raiden or Trevor McFur properly.
Having S-Video and a good TV, along with a decent selection of games, the Jaguar does feel much more powerful than it did originally, but the games still make it look underutilized.
I also got a 3DO back around the time I had my first Jaguar (1997'ish) and it was way more impressive and there were more games that I was interested in. Wolfenstein looked almost like a generational leap over the Jag version. I never did get to try the awful Doom port. I don't need to play every Jag game to know that I'd rather play Lucienne's Quest, SSFIIX and Policenauts. Many of the better Jaguar games are ones I'm really not into, but there are many more decent 3DO games that I'd give a shot.
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Don't get me wrong about the 3DO, there are games I love. Lucienne's Quest comes to mind, along with Ice Breaker, Captain Quazar, & probably Policenaugts if someone ever releases an english patch!
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Keep in mind that many of the games released for the Jaguar were conversions from the Panther. This is especially true for early Jaguar games.
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Makes sense to me.
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Man, the memories of that system are just painful! :x
I remember going to my local Microplay a decade and a half ago just to try the sucker out. They had ZOOL: Intergalactic Ninja on play and the control scheme was just flat out broken. I'm still not sure to this day if the broken controls on the controller was from Atari's shoddy design or someone at Microplay just abused it too much. :-k
Wasn't surprised the system tanked. How the hell could Atari go against juggernauts like Nintendo and Sega?
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a river down system.
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Come again? :-s
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I think that's Tatsujinese for 'a system up a creek without a paddle'
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I think that's Tatsujinese for 'a system up a creek without a paddle'
hahahahhahahaa. Tats is totally coherent in most posts.... then he slips into bizzarro world for others.
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I think that's Tatsujinese for 'a system up a creek without a paddle'
lol..it just meant that the system went the river down, like flushed down the toilet etc.
@este: :P
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Ohhh...I get it! The system was flushable. :)