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Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: D-Lite on June 17, 2005, 05:58:52 PM
I for the longest time have held out that Alien Crush is by far and away the best pinball on TG, with respect to Devil's Crush which is great in it's own right.  I always had something special for Alien Crush though.

But.

Recently I have become reacquainted with Time Cruise and it's a lot of fun.  Much deeper than the Crush games and pretty graphics for sure.  I just can't decide though if it's got that *feel*, you know?  There is a certain charm to the others, but does that make them better than Time Cruise?

Thoughts?
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: Michael Helgeson on June 17, 2005, 07:43:02 PM
maybe the feeling you get is from the fact that the Crush games are way older,yet way ahead of their time.They brought more to the table all thing sconsidered back when they were released then what Time Cruise did when it was released.The Crush games have no flaws.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: nodtveidt on June 18, 2005, 01:50:40 AM
I much prefer Time Cruise myself. :D
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: D-Lite on June 18, 2005, 05:04:43 AM
I think the main reason I stick with Alien Crush is the ability to switch soundtracks, both of which I think are awesome, and the more frequent bonus screens.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: GUTS on June 18, 2005, 07:45:56 AM
Time Cruise is better, there's just more stuff to it.  I like the Crush games though, hell any pinball game with an actual ending is awesome.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: guyjin on June 18, 2005, 03:10:25 PM
I always heard that Devil's crush was the better game... Not having it, I can't compare it to alien crush, which I do have. Should I seek it out?
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: Keranu on June 18, 2005, 03:24:07 PM
Time Cruise is certainly a fun video pinball game as well. The board is quite large, has lotsa fun mini-games, interesting time machine concept, and that cool sound menu thing. However I know exactly how you feel because I still think Alien's Crush and Devil's Crush are better, just because of the feel of them. Well actually Devil's Crush has tons of gameplay to it and it's quite the technical game when you think ab00t it because of all the ways to obtain score, which makes it stronger as a pinball game itself. It's just kind of weird why Time Cruise can't be accepted as a better game than the Crushes for me, but I think Devil's Crush will stand as the greatest video pinball game of all time. I'll have to try that House of the Dead Pinball that Sega knocked-off Devil's Crush sometime.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: nodtveidt on June 19, 2005, 03:00:05 AM
Because "Devil's Crush" just sounds so much cooler. :D Other than that...Time Cruise is certainly a superior game...all three are very good games though so the margin of greatness between them is very thin.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: zborgerd on June 20, 2005, 02:34:06 AM
Quote from: "guyjin"
I always heard that Devil's crush was the better game... Not having it, I can't compare it to alien crush, which I do have. Should I seek it out?


Both games are similar.  I think that Devil's Crush has a slightly better "theme"...  Or, more interesting.  Both are great games though.

I've never played Time Cruise before, but it looks like an interesting game.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: torgo on June 24, 2005, 04:42:00 AM
Time Cruise was great, but very static. Alien crush was completely bug free, but didn't have much variety. Devil's Crush is still the best overall, and not that crappy Genesis abomination Devil's Crash.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: AlexKidd on July 07, 2005, 11:02:08 AM
I've played and enjoy all three games. I'd rank them:

1.Devil's Crush
2.Alien Crush
3.Time Cruise

There's nothing wrong with time cruise that I can think of. Devil's Crush and Alien Crush just have a certain feel to them,as someone else stated.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: pixeljunkie on July 08, 2005, 03:23:54 AM
Quote from: "AlexKidd"
I've played and enjoy all three games. I'd rank them:

1.Devil's Crush
2.Alien Crush
3.Time Cruise

There's nothing wrong with time cruise that I can think of. Devil's Crush and Alien Crush just have a certain feel to them,as someone else stated.


agreed
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: twor2005 on July 08, 2005, 08:55:47 PM
I could have sworn that there was a Time Cruise 2 announced at some point. I assumed it was on PCE but I don't see it on the lists. Any info on this?
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: nodtveidt on July 09, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
I have both Time Cruise and Time Cruise II. I think that what we in the US know as Time Cruise is actually Time Cruise II in Japan.

(http://www.nodtveidt.net/tc.png)

(http://www.nodtveidt.net/tc2.png)

Time Cruise here has a copyright year of 1992 and is a US cart, but Time Cruise II has a copyright date of 1991 and is a Japan cart. These games are the same thing.

Oh and guys...this game also has two main soundtracks. :)
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: twor2005 on July 09, 2005, 11:05:25 AM
So what happenned to Time Cruise I? It doesn't seem to be a PCE game, and I checked my list and don't see it as a Famicom game either.
Title: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: nodtveidt on July 09, 2005, 12:36:52 PM
No idea. Could be a SMS game for all we know...
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: PhilBiker on April 11, 2007, 08:32:40 AM
Resurrecting a very old thread....

Devil's Crush is the best video pinball game I've ever experienced on any platform.
Alien Crush is a pretty close second
Time Cruise is good, but not as good as the Crushes.

Time cruise is fun, but the field of play is too big, there's too much going on.  The bonus round where you have to roll the ball around is completely impossible.  The others are neat.  The best thing about DC is that other than the moving sprites, it feels like a real pinball game, and that includes the size of all three levels of the playfield compared to the ball and flippers being roughly equlivalent to a real pinball game.  The bonus levels are varied, the graphics are terriffic, the sounds are great.  Time Cruise has two very cool songs and a super cool "options" menu, I like the optional song better than the default one.  TC is fun, don't get me wrong, but it's no Crush.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: termis on April 11, 2007, 08:36:23 AM
I can never get into video pinball games.  They just aren't the same on a monitor as opposed to the real thing.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: Keranu on April 11, 2007, 08:41:53 AM
I can never get into video pinball games.  They just aren't the same on a monitor as opposed to the real thing.
There is a big difference between real pinball and video pinball. I prefer real pinball too of course since I can get into the feel of it more, but video pinball has it's advantages too since it can practically perform the impossible :D . That's why I like video pinball games like Devil's Crush since it's not trying to be like real pinball and become much more of a fantasy. When a video pinball game is designed to be just like real pinball, I don't quite get the point to it.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: shubibiman on April 11, 2007, 10:59:18 AM
Time Cruise is not a bad game but I prefer Devil's Crush by far, as the musics are much better and the game itself faster than Time Cruise. Plus, you can save your game while playing Devil's Crush. In Time Cruise, if you wish to see the ending, you must play aaaaall the way through and it takes a loooong time (something like 5 to 6 hours, depending on how many bonuses you get). Not to mention that sometimes, the ball's physics is awkward whereas Devil's Crush's one is much more realistic.
Time Cruise's bonus stages are really cool, though.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: Turbo D on April 11, 2007, 11:44:34 AM
Devils Crush all the way! It's just so awesome. I took a person who doesn't like video games, introduced them to devils crush, and they literally sat on my couch playing it for at least 2 hours, no Bull! But on the other hand alien crush rocked too. I could never get that cool rock song out of my head after playing it,  :lol:.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: ccovell on April 11, 2007, 02:35:23 PM
I prefer Devil's Crush too.  Everything feels, looks, and sounds perfect, whereas Alien Crush feels a bit sparse, and the ball control in Time Cruise II is not perfect.

The original Time Cruise was in development for the PC-Engine but was cancelled/evolved into Time Cruise II.  I have some pics in magazines of the original Time Cruise, and it looks way different.  I'll try to post some pics when I can.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: Keranu on April 11, 2007, 02:57:29 PM
But now wasn't Time Cruise also originally a real pinball machine too?
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: Turbo D on April 11, 2007, 03:02:17 PM
You know what would be really cool; a real pinball machine modeled after Devil's Crush. That would kick so much ass!
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: nat on April 12, 2007, 04:49:08 AM
Quote from: ccovell link=topic=732.msg35794#msg35794

The original Time Cruise was in development for the PC-Engine but was cancelled/evolved into Time Cruise II.  I have some pics in magazines of the original Time Cruise, and it looks way different.  I'll try to post some pics when I can.

You're wrong.

Time Cruise II came out before Time Cruise I, duh.

The reason Time Cruise II has a copyright date of 1991 and Time Cruise is dated 1992 is because the developers at FACE originally released Time Cruise in 1992. After doing so, they thought how cool it would be to have a sequel that actually came out before the original game seeing as how this was, well, Time Cruise.

So they went back in time to 1991 and released Time Cruise II. There was another planned sequel, Time Cruise III (these are the screenshots you speak of), that was actually scheduled for 1989 but there was a problem.

The head honchos at FACE in 1989 were of a different mind than those who were running the show in '91 and '92 and weren't as keen on the whole time travel idea. In fact, they weren't big pinball fans at all. You see, the problem with traveling backwards in time with corporate schemes in mind is that no one is aware of your plans when you show up. Long story short, the CEO at FACE in '89 thought these guys were full of shit and told them to get lost. He had, after all, never met them before in his life. The disgruntled group managed to show some screenshots to other game houses at the time in hopes someone else might pick them up. Some of these shots made their way to a gaming magazine and were promoted as the upcoming game "Time Cruise" since the *real* "Time Cruise" and "Time Cruise II" hadn't actually been created yet, even though they had.

Nothing ever came of the proposed Time Cruise III. The developers ended up joining Pack-In Video to replace the team that was fired for creating Deep Blue.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: PhilBiker on April 12, 2007, 04:56:24 AM
Quote from: ccovell link=topic=732.msg35794#msg35794

The original Time Cruise was in development for the PC-Engine but was cancelled/evolved into Time Cruise II.  I have some pics in magazines of the original Time Cruise, and it looks way different.  I'll try to post some pics when I can.

You're wrong.

Time Cruise II came out before Time Cruise I, duh.

The reason Time Cruise II has a copyright date of 1991 and Time Cruise is dated 1992 is because the developers at FACE originally released Time Cruise in 1992. After doing so, they thought how cool it would be to have a sequel that actually came out before the original game seeing as how this was, well, Time Cruise.

So they went back in time to 1991 and released Time Cruise II. There was another planned sequel, Time Cruise III (these are the screenshots you speak of), that was actually scheduled for 1989 but there was a problem.

The head honchos at FACE in 1989 were of a different mind than those who were running the show in '91 and '92 and weren't as keen on the whole time travel idea. In fact, they weren't big pinball fans at all. You see, the problem with traveling backwards in time with corporate schemes in mind is that no one is aware of your plans when you show up. Long story short, the CEO at FACE in '89 thought these guys were full of shit and told them to get lost. He had, after all, never met them before in his life. The disgruntled group managed to show some screenshots to other game houses at the time in hopes someone else might pick them up. Some of these shots made their way to a gaming magazine and were promoted as the upcoming game "Time Cruise" since the *real* "Time Cruise" and "Time Cruise II" hadn't actually been created yet, even though they had.

Nothing ever came of the proposed Time Cruise III. The developers ended up joining Pack-In Video to replace the team that was fired for creating Deep Blue.
I wonder if Marty McFly had dissapearing screen shots fo the game in the 50s.
Title: Re: Time Cruise: better than the Crushes?
Post by: ccovell on April 12, 2007, 05:25:09 AM
Ahhh... I get it... video pinball games came first -- since they were 2D and were the most primitive.  But the more back you go in time, the more realistic pinball games became, until the time of the '50s and '60s when pinball games were actual physical 3-D tables, with real bumpers and so on.  It all makes sense now...