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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: RoyVegas on September 18, 2009, 11:07:07 PM
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I learned a little html and put together this site to try to be a descent reference for TG-16 and Duo games. I know its pretty plain but it should serve it's purpose. I plan on keeping it updated as I get new stuff. If you find any errors or issues with the site just send me a PM and I'll get them fixed. There's no ads or any crap like that, just purely a reference to help those of us who are collectors/players. Hope it can be of use.
www.turbocollector.com (http://www.turbocollector.com/)
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Great job, Roy!
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How is this site intended to help me? Serious question.
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How is this site intended to help me? Serious question.
Fair enough question. Some people may not find it useful at all, where others might. My thoughts were mainly on the collectors side. When I started putting my collection together I realized there were alot of things that I was missing. For instance I didn't know when I started that there were different versions of Ys I&II or what the differences between the two were, nor did I know there was a map for the retail version. I didn't know there were two different versions of Champions Forever Boxing, the red and black versions. It shows which games came with box & plastic insert vs. which games came with boxes and jewel case. It answers alot of questions that people may wonder as a collector. It may not be helpful to people who know all of these things already however it would be helpful to people who would like a picture reference so they don't buy a game thinking its complete just to find out it's not. I know myself as well as others have purchased a game thinking it's complete just to find out something was missing.
Some people like loosies, where other people prefer to have as complete a collection as possible. Hope that sheds some light on my intentions.
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Very interesting -- I see your point. It's to help establish "100% genuine accuracy". However, what if you buy something on eBay and the previous owner swapped the plastic insert out with a jewel case, or vice versa? Also, you aren't mentioning which games came with "Turbo Gear" advertisements and stuff like that, which would be very important. To be sure, I think you'll need to purchase your games new/shrink-wrapped. Otherwise, unscrupulous sellers could pull a bait-and-switch with the insides.
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However, what if you buy something on eBay and the previous owner swapped the plastic insert out with a jewel case, or vice versa?
It does say which games came with plastic inserts and which came with jewel cases.
Also, you aren't mentioning which games came with "Turbo Gear" advertisements and stuff like that, which would be very important. To be sure, I think you'll need to purchase your games new/shrink-wrapped. Otherwise, unscrupulous sellers could pull a bait-and-switch with the insides.
I can't say that I plan on buying them all new/sealed just to open them to see what advertisements were inside. I can happily add a disclaimer to the top of the site stating that the site does not show what advertisements were included in the original packaging if you feel that it's necessary.
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Your site says that Bomberman 93 came with a plastic insert. However, it actually did come with a case. When you bought the game, the seller swapped it out (probably to keep the case for himself).
So, your page is wrong. And it could be wrong again in the future, since it's dependent on honest sellers. Which is why to REALLY know for sure, you'd have to buy everything new.
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Nice job Roy! I did something similar by compiling a spreadsheet checklist which included details of what extras were included with each title thereby making them "complete".
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Your site says that Bomberman 93 came with a plastic insert. However, it actually did come with a case. When you bought the game, the seller swapped it out (probably to keep the case for himself).
So, your page is wrong. And it could be wrong again in the future, since it's dependent on honest sellers. Which is why to REALLY know for sure, you'd have to buy everything new.
The research I have done depends not on the honesty of the sellers but the knowledge of the people on these forums. Here is where I found the info on the games with inserts vs. cased games. With the knowledge of the people on these forums and noone disagreeing with the fact that it came with a plastic insert (other than yourself) I believe it to be true.
My site definately could be wrong or missing something, that's why I said if you find any errors please let me know.
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Some of the games on that list had multiple versions, though. And even though most of it is right, it's still unconfirmed hearsay.
If the information is already common knowledge, then how is your site supposed to help? Serious question.
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Some of the games on that list had multiple versions, though. And even though most of it is right, it's still unconfirmed hearsay.
Even if I were to buy every game sealed and open them and post the results it would still be unconfirmed hearsay since noone was here to verify the results with me. If there was someone with me, the game could be a very good reseal which would also make the results of opening sealed games invalid. I trust the people on these forums, if they say it came with a plastic insert I believe them.
If the information is already common knowledge, then how is your site supposed to help? Serious question.
The information may be common to some people and not common to others. If the site helps even one person with their collection then it was worth the work.
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Okay, so you're saying that we shouldn't trust your word. I was giving you more credit than that, but I stand corrected.
Anyway -- instead of making a new site that's hard to find, why not just direct information-seekers to the forum thread? It seems to me that the real purpose of the site is less to provide new information, and more to show off pictures of your collection.
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Okay, so you're saying that we shouldn't trust your word. I was giving you more credit than that, but I stand corrected.
Anyway -- instead of making a new site that's hard to find, why not just direct information-seekers to the forum thread? It seems to me that the real purpose of the site is less to provide new information, and more to show off pictures of your collection.
Sorry you feel that way. The site isn't meant to provide NEW information, it's meant to compile information for an easier reference (with pictures) then searching for games one by one on the forums. Sorry you don't find it useful but some people might.
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Why would people need to search for games one-by-one? They're all listed in the thread you linked. It's a lot easier to read a list without the huge pictures, plus the forum list happens to be connected to... a forum and... a website... both of which contain a ton of other information.
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Why would people need to search for games one-by-one? They're all listed in the thread you linked. It's a lot easier to read a list without the huge pictures, plus the forum list happens to be connected to... a forum and... a website... both of which contain a ton of other information.
It isn't just about cased vs. plastic insert games. It's to show games with maps, notes, inserts, games that came just with a case vs. boxed, variations and things of that nature all in one easy place. If you don't find it useful then by all means don't go there, it's not like I gain anything by anyone going or not going. You've made your point, you don't find it useful for yourself.
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But you already said you aren't documenting all the inserts. You even said you were going to add a note to the top saying your page doesn't have all of that information.
I was going to point out more contradictions in your statements, but then I remembered that the entire purpose of your site is to show off your collection. In other words, you don't care if it's helpful or not (by the way -- it's not). You're trying to pretend it's a public service so that it doesn't look so self-serving.
I guess when people spend so much money on US Turbo games to build an instant collection, they really want to show it off. You own The Addams Family -- color me impressed! You are clearly a True Turbo Fan.
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But you already said you aren't documenting all the inserts.
When I said inserts I meant things like the investigation notes from J.B. Harold, the play sheet for John Madden Duo CD Football and the Keith Courage comic. Like I said, if you don't find it useful then don't use it.
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Your site says that Bomberman 93 came with a plastic insert. However, it actually did come with a case. When you bought the game, the seller swapped it out (probably to keep the case for himself).
So, your page is wrong. And it could be wrong again in the future, since it's dependent on honest sellers. Which is why to REALLY know for sure, you'd have to buy everything new.
No actually you are wrong. Bomberman 93 did in fact come with a plastic insert not a jewel case.
BTW Roy Great Job on the website nice big pics and short explanations good stuff
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But you already said you aren't documenting all the inserts. You even said you were going to add a note to the top saying your page doesn't have all of that information.
I was going to point out more contradictions in your statements, but then I remembered that the entire purpose of your site is to show off your collection. In other words, you don't care if it's helpful or not (by the way -- it's not). You're trying to pretend it's a public service so that it doesn't look so self-serving.
I guess when people spend so much money on US Turbo games to build an instant collection, they really want to show it off. You own The Addams Family -- color me impressed! You are clearly a True Turbo Fan.
But you already said you aren't documenting all the inserts. You even said you were going to add a note to the top saying your page doesn't have all of that information.
I was going to point out more contradictions in your statements, but then I remembered that the entire purpose of your site is to show off your collection. In other words, you don't care if it's helpful or not (by the way -- it's not). You're trying to pretend it's a public service so that it doesn't look so self-serving.
I guess when people spend so much money on US Turbo games to build an instant collection, they really want to show it off. You own The Addams Family -- color me impressed! You are clearly a True Turbo Fan.
Well I do know for a fact that Roy is a true Turbofan we have got together a few times with Oldskool played some turbo for hours and enjoyed his mini arcade. Goodness over at Roys House :) . All I can say is awesome! We did a gang beating on keith courage and played some dungeon explorer II and some Cadash. I say we go through Adams Family next time we get together ahh its nice to have some turbo friends living so close :P
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It seems to me that the real purpose of the site is less to provide new information, and more to show off pictures of your collection.
ya thats what i got out of it as well...but hey some people may find it useful.
But i think a good idea is there, a collecting/gaming reference page on here would be a good service.... just say'n :)
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Jeez, so much hostility. I, for one, enjoy looking at the high res pics of these games. Nice job, Roy.
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Jeez, so much hostility. I, for one, enjoy looking at the high res pics of these games. Nice job, Roy.
I concur! I am missing quite a few pieces in my collection, and this website is helpful for me to see what I am missing. Thanks!
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.... Also, you aren't mentioning which games came with "Turbo Gear" advertisements and stuff like that, which would be very important. To be sure, I think you'll need to purchase your games new/shrink-wrapped. Otherwise, unscrupulous sellers could pull a bait-and-switch with the insides.
Funny story about those Turbo Gear ads. i once had 2 sealed copies of Super Star Soldier. One was open for years, I kept the box and what was inside it, a turbo gear advert. Later, i sold my open copy, and opened my still shrinkwrapped 2nd copy to keep as my own. I recall noticing that one included a different advert inside, the single sheet adverts. Always thought it was funny, both new copies, bought from TZD years ago, and different adverts in each one.
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Could I make a suggestion? Maybe make the front page a list of links to the individual games (or at least the first letter) instead of loading up all 150 of them at once? Two benefits with that:
-It saves A LOT of bandwidth.
-It makes it possible for someone to provide a link to a specific game (ie, wanting to show someone the contents of a certain game) w/o resorting to hotlinking).
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Could I make a suggestion? Maybe make the front page a list of links to the individual games (or at least the first letter) instead of loading up all 150 of them at once? Two benefits with that:
-It saves A LOT of bandwidth.
-It makes it possible for someone to provide a link to a specific game (ie, wanting to show someone the contents of a certain game) w/o resorting to hotlinking).
I found out how to do this and changed the format of the whole site. Granted the front page is EXTREMELY plain right now but its all up and working like you asked. You can also click on a picture if you wish to link one directly. Thanks for the input!
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Pretty cool site.Your collection looks pretty accurate to me.Don`t no why Emerald Rocker giving you such A hard time.I think I`d hit the ignore button.
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Interesting site, but I have a few suggestions:
- You shouldn't show cases for those that didn't have 'em. Sure, people can read that they're reproductions, but that's too much work for some people and others might not be able to understand English very well. Perhaps you could add a note on the home page and link to a separate page for reproduction cases with where to find empty cases, how to make labels, etc.
- It'd be more user friendly if you had an alphabetical listing of every title on the homepage along with a thumbnail of the manual (or box). Either that, or make a site map out of Mr. Nanto's poster and post it above the alphabetical links on the homepage.
- Champions Forever Boxing should mention that the other version was red (and provide a pic if someone can oblige).
- Bonk's Adventure came with a sheet of stickers.
- Hudson's CD Game Music Collection '93 is not complete, as you're missing the single page front cover
- Retail Ys I & II is not complete, as you're missing the box.
You're trying to pretend it's a public service so that it doesn't look so self-serving.
Maybe Roy is showing off a little bit, but who gives a shit? There's still some pretty useful information to be had there, and I don't see your bitching as being a service to the community in any way, big or small. Tell ya what, chief: Roy's site does indeed suck and has been scheduled for deletion by the interwebz godz, you are totally awesome, and you are now free to move on with your life. :roll:
I think I`d hit the ignore button.
"Ignore" is for weenies. :D
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Interesting site, but I have a few suggestions:
- You shouldn't show cases for those that didn't have 'em. Sure, people can read that they're reproductions, but that's too much work for some people and others might not be able to understand English very well. Perhaps you could add a note on the home page and link to a separate page for reproduction cases with where to find empty cases, how to make labels, etc.
I was planning on just removing the pictures with the cases as I got the proper packaging. I can take some more pics without the cases and correct that soon so it's more accurate for the time being.
Interesting site, but I have a few suggestions:
- It'd be more user friendly if you had an alphabetical listing of every title on the homepage along with a thumbnail of the manual (or box). Either that, or make a site map out of Mr. Nanto's poster and post it above the alphabetical links on the homepage.
An alphabetical listing I can do. As for the thumbnails, I'll have to check into how to do that, please remember html is all new to me.
Interesting site, but I have a few suggestions:
- Champions Forever Boxing should mention that the other version was red (and provide a pic if someone can oblige).
- Bonk's Adventure came with a sheet of stickers.
- Hudson's CD Game Music Collection '93 is not complete, as you're missing the single page front cover
- Retail Ys I & II is not complete, as you're missing the box.
The red version of Champions Forever is in the mail and due to arrive any day. Once it does I'll get it up there.
Nice catch on the Bonk stickers, I'll note it on there.
I think I will be removing the CD music collection disc from the list as its not a game. Maybe I will make a misc. section eventually showing it.
I'll get the Ys I&II box issue fixed.
I'll get to work on this stuff tonight when I get off work. Thanks for taking the time to find the issues and post.
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Even though I'm "anti-collector" (or whatever) and I don't do US versions of PCE games, I still don't get all the hate from the green one.
I think the idea of documenting inserts (real inserts, like maps, not useless shit like reply cards and ads for Turbo merch that are more or less the same from game to game) is a very good one. The best way to get this capability into the hands of the common user though, IMO, is to ask the guys at PCEDaisakusen to add some sort of feature to accommodate it. That site is f*cking awesome, IMO, and I'm sure they would be interesting in adding some extra check boxes or something to their database. I suggested the "this game completed" thing and they added it in a few days. PCE games came with even more free crap than US ones, and I still wonder about some of it. Did all copies of Yuna 2 come with that cool foil sticker, or just the first run? People ask about Tengai 1 once in a while. Exactly what came with each version, etc. What RPGs came with maps and charts, that kind of thing.
[EDIT] I spoke/wrote too soon. Now that I've actually looked at the site, and I'm remembering who RoyVegas actually is (high rolling Fantasy Island guest star, multiple copies of overpriced games that have never been played, etc) I can see where Emerald Rocker was coming from. This pretty much does look like a "brag" site, and while the argument that people would like to know what exactly comes with every game is totally valid, I think the best way to make that info usable is, as I said, to work with PCED to work it into their site which already catalogs almost everything valid already and is much more useful in general. Also, it doesn't make we want to puke my f*cking guts out, even though the guys that run that site have collections just as ridiculous, so that's something there. Also, when Roy eventually sells off his collection Crazy Dion style (as nearly all megacollectors eventually do) what will become of the site? I think PCED is here to stay...or at least as "here to stay" as anything on the internet can be.
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Added a bunch more boxes today. I got them this afternoon and opened each box. When I opened the Impossamole box it had a set of Impossamole stickers in it. Never seen them before, their pretty cool. I also noticed that on the Tale Spin box was a sticker that said "Free Poster Inside". Does anyone ever recall seeing a poster that came with Tale Spin?
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Roy man, after all that razzing you about not having the photocopied manual version of Dungeon Explorer II, you still fail to make mention of it! I'm not joking, there truly was a hastily reprinted run of deII after they realized they way underestimated demand for the game (which is odd as it was one of the most publicized games for the new duo in magazines bitd.) Yes it does have a photocopied manual, and yes it is an exceptionally poor quality photocopy (Seriously could the not be assed enough to even make a decent photocopy?)
You should separate the canadian releases with the french manuals and bilingual boxes from the us ones as the box also differs. I have some (boxes and both manuals) and I still have zero clue to this day how they ended up for sale in a best buy in Texas. I could scan the manuals, but I don't really have a good camera or decent photo taking skills. Btw take a closer look at your legendary axe. See the bottom and how it is white with text instead of black with the game's name? Most of mine that are like that are the canadian releases which you can tell right away from the back of the box. However there are some oddball ones that have that bottom and aren't the canadian ones. Tricky Kick is one if memory serves. All of the inserts are identical, so you can you the one from time cruise and take a pic of the other caseless games with it for cataloging sake.
I can scan in the beyond shadowgate poster or something at some point. Same with the music collection '93s insert. I'm sure I have other misc stuff I am forgetting. I know I have quite a few boxes you are missing for sure. Let me know if I can somehow help.
Some notes: Yo' Bro came with some sort of poster, old rover had a complete copy for sale at one point. That case for the retail Ys book I & II is not the retail case, it's the pack in. I know because we got the pack in when we got a duo new bitd. I have never seen the retail version's packaging, but I have heard it has a more proper back insert like the later duo releases, or maybe it was the same?
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I also noticed that on the Tale Spin box was a sticker that said "Free Poster Inside". Does anyone ever recall seeing a poster that came with Tale Spin?
I don't recall finding such a poster in my new/sealed copy, so maybe they didn't all come with one. That, or I just blocked it out, much like the rest of that piece of crap.
That case for the retail Ys book I & II is not the retail case, it's the pack in. I know because we got the pack in when we got a duo new bitd. I have never seen the retail version's packaging, but I have heard it has a more proper back insert like the later duo releases, or maybe it was the same?
You are mistaken; the pack-in version entirely lacked a back insert, proper or otherwise. The one Roy shows is appropriate and similar to most titles of similar vintage.
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Roy man, after all that razzing you about not having the photocopied manual version of Dungeon Explorer II, you still fail to make mention of it! I'm not joking, there truly was a hastily reprinted run of deII after they realized they way underestimated demand for the game (which is odd as it was one of the most publicized games for the new duo in magazines bitd.) Yes it does have a photocopied manual, and yes it is an exceptionally poor quality photocopy (Seriously could the not be assed enough to even make a decent photocopy?)
I can definately make mention of the variation and if you can take a picture of it I will credit you for it and put the picture up. I seriously thought you were joking about this.
You should separate the canadian releases with the french manuals and bilingual boxes from the us ones as the box also differs. I have some (boxes and both manuals) and I still have zero clue to this day how they ended up for sale in a best buy in Texas. I could scan the manuals, but I don't really have a good camera or decent photo taking skills. Btw take a closer look at your legendary axe. See the bottom and how it is white with text instead of black with the game's name? Most of mine that are like that are the canadian releases which you can tell right away from the back of the box. However there are some oddball ones that have that bottom and aren't the canadian ones. Tricky Kick is one if memory serves. All of the inserts are identical, so you can you the one from time cruise and take a pic of the other caseless games with it for cataloging sake.
I can redo the pics of the canadian versions and replace them with the US versions hopefully tonight. I will also redo the pics missing the plastic inserts and put complete pics up.
I can scan in the beyond shadowgate poster or something at some point. Same with the music collection '93s insert. I'm sure I have other misc stuff I am forgetting. I know I have quite a few boxes you are missing for sure. Let me know if I can somehow help.
A scan of the poster for the site would be nice. If you can find the time to do it I would appreciate it. As for the boxes you have that I am missing, if you can find the time to take pics similar to the ones I have up, I would love to put them up in place of the incomplete ones I have listed.
Some notes: Yo' Bro came with some sort of poster, old rover had a complete copy for sale at one point. That case for the retail Ys book I & II is not the retail case, it's the pack in. I know because we got the pack in when we got a duo new bitd. I have never seen the retail version's packaging, but I have heard it has a more proper back insert like the later duo releases, or maybe it was the same?
I will list the Yo Bro poster.
The Ys I&II pack in is an interesting topic. I know for sure that there was a version that just came with the blank case that is pictured w/ manual. As for the possibility of there being 2 versions of pack ins? I have 2 different versions that I believe to be pack ins I just didn't picture both of them because I wasn't 100% sure there were two. One is the blank case version and the other is EXACTLY what you are talking about. The packaging looks exactly like the retail version only it came with the pack in style game with the left side silver and the right side black. I will try to get a few pics up tonight so you can see exactly what I mean.
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Here are the pictures I was talking about for Ys I&II Pack-ins and retail. These are the only 3 that I ever recall seeing. The First is the pack-in with the clear case that everyone agrees was a pack in. The second pic is the pack-in that Zeon recalls (pretty sure this is the one he means) receiving with his new Duo. Lastly of course is the retail version (less the box). Notice the difference in the possible pack-ins (other then the back insert) is that one was made in Japan and the other made in the USA.
I believe Zeon actually did get a variation with his Duo and there are two different 2 pack-ins for Ys I&II.
Pack-in there everyone agrees about:
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/Turbografx Game Collection/YsIIIPackinVersion.jpg)
This is the version that I believe Zeon got as his pack-in when he purchased his system new:
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/Turbografx Game Collection/TurbografxCollection5003.jpg)
Finally this is the retail version:
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/Turbografx Game Collection/YsIIIRetail.jpg)
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Considering TTI did some weird stuff near the end I suppose its possible that some Duos came with a copy of Y's that had a back insert, but I can't help but wonder what the logical explanation would be for this.
The Duo version of this game has "Turbo Duo" branding on the CD. Why would they bother to make new screen art for the CD but reprint the old back instert (no TTI-era game, AFAIK, has the old NEC-era graphic design on the case). For that matter, if they were interested in back inserts, why did the GoT 3-in-1 never have one?
The only thing I can think of is that, for whatever reason, they must have run out of Y's CDs before they ran out of GoT CDs (how? since they are distributed in the exact same frequency?*) and commissioned a reprint of Y's with an American CD plant. At this point back inserts were probably included in the deal, and so they just printed them because they were free. It would help a lot to know if the version with the back insert came before, or after the one without. I'm tempted to say before, because I had my Duo somewhat early on and there was no back insert. I think it was October 1992. That one developed problems so I exchanged it at EB for a December 1992 one...I think. Someone here has my old US Duo. I think it might be Nat.
If this were the case then the manual must be printed in the USA as well? I don't have very many US games, but the ones I do have that were made in Japan have Japanese books and CDs, and the ones I have that were made in the USA have USA books and CDs.
*Did Super Systems Cards come with just the GoT 3-in-1, or did they also have Y's?
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Roy man, after all that razzing you about not having the photocopied manual version of Dungeon Explorer II, you still fail to make mention of it! I'm not joking, there truly was a hastily reprinted run of deII after they realized they way underestimated demand for the game (which is odd as it was one of the most publicized games for the new duo in magazines bitd.) Yes it does have a photocopied manual, and yes it is an exceptionally poor quality photocopy (Seriously could the not be assed enough to even make a decent photocopy?)
That is true, there was a photocopied manual for the 2nd printing of DE2. I received one in the mid 90's when i ordered my copy of DE2. I recall being a bit disappointed with what I received, haha. The xerox quality was not very good, it looked as though it was a copy of a copy.
Sometime in 2000 or 2001 I ebayed it, and later bought a first printing of DE2 for myself, without the photocopied manual. I recall on ebay getting many questions about it being "Pirated". I told them all that's not the case, as this was a 2nd printing and how the game shipped out, and if they had questions to call TZD and ask them.
I don't recall anyone receiving an Y's 1&2 pack-in with spine art. Could be, if there are people insisting they got it new with their duo, that it was when TZD was clearing uot their Duo stock in 2004 or so. During that time TZD was gutting their duo boxes of games, and selling different bundles...
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That is true, there was a photocopied manual for the 2nd printing of DE2. I received one in the mid 90's when i ordered my copy of DE2. I recall being a bit disappointed with what I received, haha. The xerox quality was not very good, it looked as though it was a copy of a copy.
Glad to hear some more confirmation of the photocopied manual for DE II. I would love to add a pic of it if Zeon has the time to take one.
I don't recall anyone receiving an Y's 1&2 pack-in with spine art. Could be, if there are people insisting they got it new with their duo, that it was when TZD was clearing uot their Duo stock in 2004 or so. During that time TZD was gutting their duo boxes of games, and selling different bundles...
I can see that as being a possibility if it was only the back insert being the difference. It still doesn't explain the two printings. One was Made in USA while the other was Made in Japan.
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OR could be simply people swapped out the disc (personally. used game store bitd, etc.). They may have had x amount of inserts and they were included until they ran out. Seems that a majority seen/heard about the pack in ver are the insertless ver it's a fluke more than a "variant."
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If this were the case then the manual must be printed in the USA as well? I don't have very many US games, but the ones I do have that were made in Japan have Japanese books and CDs, and the ones I have that were made in the USA have USA books and CDs.
Just got home from work and checked the manul on the Made in USA pack-in version and its a Made in Japan manual. I'm not really sure what to think at this point. My opinion is that there IS a difference on the disc since it was made in two different places which would make it a variation. What do you think?
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OR could be simply people swapped out the disc (personally. used game store bitd, etc.). They may have had x amount of inserts and they were included until they ran out. Seems that a majority seen/heard about the pack in ver are the insertless ver it's a fluke more than a "variant."
The back insert isn't what I considered a variation as it could easily be swapped out by someone. What to me makes it a variation would be the Made in Japan vs. Made in USA on the discs. Look at it in the pictures.
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Wow, I need to correct myself on two things!:
- TZD starting clearing their Duo, TG-16, etc system stock in 2000 or 2001. Not 2004. I think 2004 is when the systems dried up. They were gutting boxes though, and you could buy the 3-in-1 CD, y's 1&2 pack-in, etc directly from TZD.
- Also, I just went to a shelf to look at my Y's 1&2 pack-in, and sure enough, it has spine art, hahaha. Maybe not a fluke, just the initial run of the Japan or USA printed CD's ran out, and they shifted to a different manufacturer for the rest of their duo systems.
Posting a pic of my Y's 1&2 pack-in in a moment.
I also notice the spine art doesn't look quite as sharp as the other CD spine-arts, near where the yellow meets the black.
Funny thing, it's been so long, I forgot that my Y's 1&2 pack-in had the spine art :)
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I couldn't focus too well on the case with a camera. I'll drop it on a scanner if you like.
My duo was also purchased new, direct from TZD with their trade-in offer, when I traded in a TG-16 + $$$ for a new Turbo Duo. I never altered the Y's case. Only case I altered was the 3-in-1, which I received in a jewel case with a white tray, no spine-art.
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/mrfulci/Console games/1100_Img_0432.jpg)
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Awesome! It matches mine exactly, it has the back insert and its the Made in USA version. So that pretty much confirms it. There are 2 variations of the Ys I&II pack-in disc. A Made in USA version with the back insert and the Made in Japan version that came in the clear case. SWEET!
The only question I have for you is, is your manual Made in Japan also?
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Yes, the manual is also printed in Japan.
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Excellent! Perfect match.
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I couldn't focus too well on the case with a camera. I'll drop it on a scanner if you like.
My duo was also purchased new, direct from TZD with their trade-in offer, when I traded in a TG-16 + $$$ for a new Turbo Duo. I never altered the Y's case. Only case I altered was the 3-in-1, which I received in a jewel case with a white tray, no spine-art.
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w201/mrfulci/Console games/1100_Img_0432.jpg)
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That is EXACTLY what we did, the TZD upgrade trade in, right when the duo first debuted. That copy you have also happens to look exactly like my pack in copy. I'll need to check to see where the manual was made though
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That is EXACTLY what we did, the TZD upgrade trade in, right when the duo first debuted. That copy you have also happens to look exactly like my pack in copy. I'll need to check to see where the manual was made though
The Duo debuted before TZD even existed. Do you mean TTI? I can't remember when the trade in period was.
I think the main point to learn here though is that it seems like Duos bought through regular retail channels had first print Y's CDs (made in Japan, no back insert) and ones ordered directly from TZD (or TTI?) had a second print version (USA made, with insert).
As to exactly why a second run was ever needed in the first place...? Who knows? I had always assumed that with the Duo being a huge expensive flop that TZD was still selling stock from their original 1992 shipment when they finally ran out in 2004 or whatever. Maybe this wasn't the case?
I also wonder, for those that got one of these USA copies of Y's, what HuCard did you get? Recently people have been saying they got stuff like a complete copy of Splatterhouse, but everyone I know got a loose Ninja Spirit. Maybe the Splatterhouse was also something for the later runs?
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That is EXACTLY what we did, the TZD upgrade trade in, right when the duo first debuted. That copy you have also happens to look exactly like my pack in copy. I'll need to check to see where the manual was made though
The Duo debuted before TZD even existed. Do you mean TTI? I can't remember when the trade in period was.
I think the main point to learn here though is that it seems like Duos bought through regular retail channels had first print Y's CDs (made in Japan, no back insert) and ones ordered directly from TZD (or TTI?) had a second print version (USA made, with insert).
As to exactly why a second run was ever needed in the first place...? Who knows? I had always assumed that with the Duo being a huge expensive flop that TZD was still selling stock from their original 1992 shipment when they finally ran out in 2004 or whatever. Maybe this wasn't the case?
I also wonder, for those that got one of these USA copies of Y's, what HuCard did you get? Recently people have been saying they got stuff like a complete copy of Splatterhouse, but everyone I know got a loose Ninja Spirit. Maybe the Splatterhouse was also something for the later runs?
From what I recall, TTI/TZD did not sell any systems after the Turbo Grafx system was discontinued. They stopped when TTI became TZD. TZD was basically the clearing house for the then dead system. There was some sort of legal reason as to why they could not sell systems. After X amount of time of the TG-16 discontinued, they began to sell systems. TG-16, Express, and Duo.
TZD did offer a trade-in program, and basically an exchange program if your system were busted. Everyone I know who sent in a broken sytem to TZD for repairs, received a new system in return.
I did my trade-in Tg-16 for Duo, when the 800-DUO-THIS phone number was still operational. TZD had the telephone number for at least 2 years after TTI closed.
The HuCard I received, was a New in retail box, shrinkwrapped, Splatterhouse.
I think the only pack-in HuCards were either Ninja Spirit or Splatterhouse. I'm wondering if anyone received a Ninja Spirit also in a retail box?
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From what I recall, TTI/TZD did not sell any systems after the Turbo Grafx system was discontinued. They stopped when TTI became TZD. TZD was basically the clearing house for the then dead system. There was some sort of legal reason as to why they could not sell systems. After X amount of time of the TG-16 discontinued, they began to sell systems. TG-16, Express, and Duo.
TZD did offer a trade-in program, and basically an exchange program if your system were busted. Everyone I know who sent in a broken sytem to TZD for repairs, received a new system in return.
The legal reason was that TZD was contractually obligated to service all the systems NEC/TTI sold, so they had to hold back all those Duos and Expresses so that there would be something to exchange. Total replacement is pretty common with cheaper electronics. Send an iPod in for repairs to Apple and you will get a new iPod. Heck, just send it in for a new battery and you get an new iPod.
As soon as the period of the support contract was expired they sold off the systems. Before TZD did this formally I was at a convention and a dealer there had a small number of US Duos in boxes with no games. I asked him where in the world he got them, and he said he couldn't tell me. Its pretty obvious they came from TZD because not too much later TZD started selling parted out Duos themselves. I'm not sure if this was them "breaking the street date", as it were, or if they just didn't getting around to selling them themselves right away.
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It might not have been right exactly when the duo debuted, but it was around the time tzd took over to sell tti's remaining stock. I think Fulci is correct about the trade in process. If you had any issues with your tg-16 and you called about it (I believe we were having issues with our turbo tap, go figure) they would try to talk you into trading it in towards a brand new duo retail package.
I don't think this was officially or expressly stated on their website ever, nor in their catalogs, but rather a way for them to move slow selling duos via their repair services. Besides, now that they sold you a new duo, you'll want to buy all those nifty new cd-rom and supercd-rom games. See, profit! :wink: We never even sent them the faulty tap btw.
When the duo was released, no one in our area sold much, if any, duo/tg-16 stuff anymore. We had to rely solely on mail-order tzd for our turbo goods. We got Splatterhouse too. It was kinda ironic that we already owned Splatterhouse, but wanted a copy of the purportedly more common pack in, Ninja Spirit. We could not find it for sale anywhere after renting it from a mom and pop place twice years prior. In fact that copy is still sealed. :wink:
Oh and for a blast from the past check out tzd via the wayback machine on archive.org. Trust me, it's great! It goes all the way back to 1996...
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So I have been looking to pick up U.S. boxes I need and have ran across 4-5 people with boxes for Legendary Axe (the first version). So far the sellers I have talked to with it have told me the one they have is the one with the white bottom. Just trying to confirm if the U.S. version of Legendary Axe came with the black background and big white lettering OR if it has a white background with a ton of small black print. Can anyone that has a box check theirs and see which one they have?
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Nice site, Roy! I don't know why you've been given crap about it.
I noticed something interesting, by the way. My Meteor Blaster DX Signature Edition doesn't have the sticker on the front of the manual. Still, I wouldn't call that a variation, due to the fact that I got it LONG after the offer ended by writing an e-mail to BT Garner, asking if he had any left, and he made up a small batch, just for me!
I guess that makes me a lucky bastard! 8)
And besides, I actually like it better that way, cause I can see the cover art better.
BT, if you're reading this, thanks for giving a damn about me! I had just gotten into the PCE/TG, so I really appreciate what you did; it means a lot!
Thank you!
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I got it LONG after the offer ended by writing an e-mail to BT Garner, asking if he had any left, and he made up a small batch, just for me!
So what number is yours?
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My Meteor Blaster DX Signature Edition doesn't have the sticker on the front of the manual. Still, I wouldn't call that a variation, due to the fact that I got it LONG after the offer ended by writing an e-mail to BT Garner, asking if he had any left, and he made up a small batch, just for me!
I also got my Meteor Blaster DXs long after also by emailing him. According to BT, he initially was going to sell 100 of them but he never actually sold all 100 of them. When I got mine he said the last one he sold was number 56. I have copys 57,58,59 and 60.
It should definately be considered a variation. Not just because of the sticker or signature but the things that are different in the game. A few things that I can recall are that when you turn on the game the title screen has a personal message and the numbering of the copy you have (which should also match the numbering on the back side of the manual). Also included in the sig edition are an extra ship to chose from, more audio that isn't in the original and a newer version of Loop if I'm not mistaken.
Here is a pic of the title screen so you can see what I mean. You can see it says Roy's Personal Copy and in the upper right corner it says 60/100.
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/001.jpg)
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My copy is #56, so I must've gotten my copy right before Roy.
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So I have been looking to pick up U.S. boxes I need and have ran across 4-5 people with boxes for Legendary Axe (the first version). So far the sellers I have talked to with it have told me the one they have is the one with the white bottom. Just trying to confirm if the U.S. version of Legendary Axe came with the black background and big white lettering OR if it has a white background with a ton of small black print. Can anyone that has a box check theirs and see which one they have?
Sill looking for an answer to this. Anyone?
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So I have been looking to pick up U.S. boxes I need and have ran across 4-5 people with boxes for Legendary Axe (the first version). So far the sellers I have talked to with it have told me the one they have is the one with the white bottom. Just trying to confirm if the U.S. version of Legendary Axe came with the black background and big white lettering OR if it has a white background with a ton of small black print. Can anyone that has a box check theirs and see which one they have?
Sill looking for an answer to this. Anyone?
Mine has White background and black print.
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So I have been looking to pick up U.S. boxes I need and have ran across 4-5 people with boxes for Legendary Axe (the first version). So far the sellers I have talked to with it have told me the one they have is the one with the white bottom. Just trying to confirm if the U.S. version of Legendary Axe came with the black background and big white lettering OR if it has a white background with a ton of small black print. Can anyone that has a box check theirs and see which one they have?
Sill looking for an answer to this. Anyone?
Mine has White background and black print.
Thanks for checking. I did a comparison and it is confirmed the US Legendary Axe definately DID have a white bottom.
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Thanks for checking. I did a comparison and it is confirmed the US Legendary Axe definately DID have a white bottom.
I know this may be moot, but what precisely were you trying to verify?
It sounds like you are referring to the bottom cardboard flap. Were there variations in the packaging?
Clearly, I haven't been following this thread, but package variations are interesting to me.
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Thanks for checking. I did a comparison and it is confirmed the US Legendary Axe definately DID have a white bottom.
I know this may be moot, but what precisely were you trying to verify?
It sounds like you are referring to the bottom cardboard flap. Were there variations in the packaging?
Clearly, I haven't been following this thread, but package variations are interesting to me.
The bottom flap is exactly what I was checking on. Most U.S. box bottoms had a black background with big white writing for the name of the game. There are a few that have a white flap and tons of small black writing. I believe most of the French/Canadian boxes had a white bottom. I just wanted to confirm the U.S. Legendary Axe had the white bottom.
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The bottom flap is exactly what I was checking on. Most U.S. box bottoms had a black background with big white writing for the name of the game. There are a few that have a white flap and tons of small black writing. I believe most of the French/Canadian boxes had a white bottom. I just wanted to confirm the U.S. Legendary Axe had the white bottom.
OK, I never noticed that before. Interesting.
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Plan on adding any hardware/systems to your site?
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OK, I never noticed that before. Interesting.
If you want a pic or 2 of examples so you can actually see the difference, let me know.
Plan on adding any hardware/systems to your site?
I didn't plan on it.
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My us version of Legendary Axe box has white bottom.
And regarding Usa Turbo Duo system hu card pack in. Several years ago I heard that some people got loose Dungeon Explorer Hucard as pack in some of these were said that they were bought from Sears. But I have never seen Turbo stuff at sears myself so I cannot say that this information is accurate. I have seen Turbos at Montgomery Wards..Toys R Us..Software Etc. Waldensoft..Babbage's..EB Electronics Boutique..some small local video game stores...The Good Guys that is where I got my brand new duo in 1997 for only $50 am not kidding !...
anyways about Turbo Duo I have owned several boxed turbo duo systems I only got the loose Ninja Spirit with them I have not received Splatterhouse or Dungeon Explorer with my boxed duos now I only own 2 boxed Turbo Duos and 1 unboxed Turbo Duo...
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Curious as to what everyone thinks about adding Insanity to the site? All of the packaging says PCE, not Turbografx. This being the case, do you think I should add it to my site as a Turbo game or should it be considered PCE?
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Curious as to what everyone thinks about adding Insanity to the site? All of the packaging says PCE, not Turbografx. This being the case, do you think I should add it to my site as a Turbo game or should it be considered PCE?
The walls in one of the stages in the game spell "PCE" and the packaging is in both English and Kanji (Japanese). Up until then I considered it to be a Turbo title. I think it is still safe to categorize it as one since it is not region specific. I am adding it to my own personal checklist as a Turbo title.
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Since it was conceived, programmed, produced, and distributed in the good ol' U. S. of A., I consider it to be a Turbo title.
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Since it was conceived, programmed, produced, and distributed in the good ol' U. S. of A., I consider it to be a Turbo title.
Precisely.
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Ok, based on the responses so far, I listed Insanity on the site. I listed it as 3 different versions, and here is why.
CCAG 2009 Lightscribe Version - 20 of these were made to be distributed at CCAG 2009. It is on a Lightscribe disc and is numbered.
Preorder Version - Professionally pressed disc, it is not only numbered but it also comes with the Lightscribe soundtrack disc.
Regular Version - The professionally pressed disc released to the public.
Just a side note: The CCAG version and the Preorder versions may or may not be signed based on what they buyer requested when you ordered them.
If any of this is incorrect please let me know so I can correct it.
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The site is awesome. Great job and thanks! One request, can you post a pic of all the games together? I just want to see what all of those games look like on a shelf, :D
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One request, can you post a pic of all the games together? I just want to see what all of those games look like on a shelf, :D
Sure.
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/GameRack001.jpg)
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No less than 2 copies of KLAX. Nice.
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nice one roy. made you das vegas rich? :)
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No less than 2 copies of KLAX. Nice.
That's because the top 2 shelves are my open stuff to play. The bottom shelf are sealed ones. (Here come the flames).
nice one roy. made you das vegas rich? :)
Asks the man with the 700+ game pc engine collection? :lol: We don't have to be rich to have a small collection of mostly $25 or cheaper games.
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
Hahahhaahhahahahaa.
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
Aww but one is the US version and the other is the Canadian version. The boxes are different and I'm a sucker for variations. :-"
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
Aww but one is the US version and the other is the Canadian version. The boxes are different and I'm a sucker for variations. :-"
You know, I like to have Canadian boxes as well, since I didn't even know they existed until a few years ago. It's neat to see how they squeezed all that text on the back :).
All is OK.
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
Aww but one is the US version and the other is the Canadian version. The boxes are different and I'm a sucker for variations. :-"
You know, I like to have Canadian boxes as well, since I didn't even know they existed until a few years ago. It's neat to see how they squeezed all that text on the back :).
All is OK.
Yup, usually the same pics will be on the back of the box but the upper 2 pics will have the US text and the lower 2 pics have the french text. All of the text is super small. It's pretty cool really.
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Asks the man with the 700+ game pc engine collection? :lol: We don't have to be rich to have a small collection of mostly $25 or cheaper games.
ya some are $25 or cheaper...& Did you say we? cause your the true high roller here Roy :P
(http://www.forumspile.com/Flame-Flame_on.jpg)
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Asks the man with the 700+ game pc engine collection? :lol: We don't have to be rich to have a small collection of mostly $25 or cheaper games.
ya some are $25 or cheaper...& Did you say we? cause your the true high roller here Roy :P
(http://www.forumspile.com/Flame-Flame_on.jpg)
If you consider having a collection thats worth a few thousand dollars a high roller then you need a better job my friend! :P
Love the pic by the way. He is actually wearing a proximity suit, I have one in my garage. I used to be a fireman.
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here comes the flame, nanananaaa.. here comes the flame.. and I say it's all right.
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Asks the man with the 700+ game pc engine collection? :lol: We don't have to be rich to have a small collection of mostly $25 or cheaper games.
ya some are $25 or cheaper...& Did you say we? cause your the true high roller here Roy :P
(http://www.forumspile.com/Flame-Flame_on.jpg)
If you consider having a collection thats worth a few thousand dollars a high roller then you need a better job my friend! :P
Love the pic by the way. He is actually wearing a proximity suit, I have one in my garage. I used to be a fireman.
haha..You throw out the richie line so i had to throw a little dig at ya, cause you are 1 to talk.. high roller :P
how much have you spent on your collection?... most expensive game? or multiple games?
I have a complete collection as well man equal to yours & i am proud to say i have spent very little, i think the most i spent was $120 for Bonk 3...
ya who cares but just called ya out from the line ya dropped at taters :) all good
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most expensive game? or multiple games?
Most expensive was Dynastic Hero: $400
Magical Chase $225
Super Air Zonk: $225 (was the last game I needed if I can recall, so I wen't a little higher)
M&M III : $150
Everything else was $100 or cheaper if I remember correctly.
Yeah, I know. You probably got them alot cheaper. May I ask what the most you paid was?
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The most I've paid for, so far, was $75 for Drac X. However, I realize that if I want to own some of the more rare games I'm going to have to dig deeper into my wallet. I'm in no rush though - slow and steady. :mrgreen:
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The most I've paid for, so far, was $75 for Drac X. However, I realize that if I want to own some of the more rare games I'm going to have to dig deeper into my wallet. I'm in no rush though - slow and steady. :mrgreen:
Probably a good idea. It seems SOME of the prices have to come down a little on the higher end stuff.
Actually this would make for an interesting topic. Lemme make one.
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The most I've paid for, so far, was $75 for Drac X. However, I realize that if I want to own some of the more rare games I'm going to have to dig deeper into my wallet. I'm in no rush though - slow and steady. :mrgreen:
That's been my thing as well on old console lately.It is best to stick what you can buy then buy the expensive titles later on.I have been looking at maybe buying some pce games again,but then i see the price and i cringe and i slowly step away.
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
Aww but one is the US version and the other is the Canadian version. The boxes are different and I'm a sucker for variations. :-"
You know, I like to have Canadian boxes as well, since I didn't even know they existed until a few years ago. It's neat to see how they squeezed all that text on the back :).
All is OK.
I'll take a look around to see what Canadian boxes I have. :mrgreen: To me the all English boxes are foreign. lol :wink:
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(Here come the flames).
Anyone with two sealed copies of Takin' It To The Hoop deserves to be flamed. Hell, you're practically begging for it!
Aww but one is the US version and the other is the Canadian version. The boxes are different and I'm a sucker for variations. :-"
You know, I like to have Canadian boxes as well, since I didn't even know they existed until a few years ago. It's neat to see how they squeezed all that text on the back :).
All is OK.
I'll take a look around to see what Canadian boxes I have. :mrgreen: To me the all English boxes are foreign. lol :wink:
Do that, and I'll take them off your hands. :)
I think we used to have a list here (or at magicengine) of all the verified Canadian releases.
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A while back in chat Zeon mentioned to me that manual scans would be nice. Have manual scans for the US games been scanned already somewhere? Would anyone find this useful? It would be a fair amount of work (and I would have to buy a scanner) so if I would be wasting my time please let me know.
Would anyone like to see it done?
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Have manual scans for the US games been scanned already somewhere?
Replacement Docs (http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?list.18) has quite a few, but by no means all of 'em.
Would anyone find this useful?
I personally wouldn't, at least not for the entire library, as I'd rather pay a few bucks and get the real deal. Surely there's a lot of other peeps, though, that just want something to fill the case and would greatly appreciate quality scans.
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A while back in chat Zeon mentioned to me that manual scans would be nice. Have manual scans for the US games been scanned already somewhere? Would anyone find this useful? It would be a fair amount of work (and I would have to buy a scanner) so if I would be wasting my time please let me know.
Would anyone like to see it done?
A few years ago some dude (I want to say "Validus" but I don't think that's correct. OK, his name was "avatarloki" and you could download the manuals at avatarloki.com) over at magicengine.com forums scanned nearly all the U.S. manuals.
I thought it was a great idea, especially because I had scanned ~40 manuals on my own before getting tired. I had intended on hosting all the manuals at my site, but then I moved on to other projects...
...we could simply find the avatarloki's stuff and make it available again (the were OK quality scans).
I think it would be great to have all the manuals available.
TANGENT: We could also be crazy (I'm a perfectionist, at times). If you (we) did this, I would love to do it right:
A. Start from scratch. Create PDF's with high quality scans (Phase 1).
B. After getting that done, and making them available, I would like to embark on Phase 2: I have software that uses OCR to convert images to text, embeds the text, and then spits out a PDF. The original look and feel of the manual is untouched... AND...
Embedded text makes the PDF's searchable. I always thought this would be a wonderful resource (searchable scans), and I want to do this with my magazine scans as well. Of course, the OCR is not perfect and I have to manually fix any garbled nonsense generates.
Anyway, if you were willing to scan, I would be happy to help out with other stuff (hosting the files, working on OCR, designing a nice-looking page layout, etc. etc.)
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Oh sure esteban, take an already large possible project and turn it into an epic one. :lol: Let's see if some more people are interested in the manual scans and we can go from there. If there are people that want it done then I'll take you up on that offer. I'd much rather it be up on your site where it can actually look nice. My web skills are obviously nil lol.
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well, to add into the f*ckery i have all the tg16 box scans for the fronts and backs.... i download these awhile ago i beleive from working designs site before it closed down :(
Anyway i was using them to make some custom inserts for myself before i went sticker crazy :P there are no water marks on them and there ok scans at 5x6 100dpi.
I have these individually or stuffed/zipped (35mb) if anyone has a domain to hold these for downloading.
just throwing that out there....
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x114/sparkss_photo/magicalcase.jpg) (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x114/sparkss_photo/magical_chase_back.jpg)
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I wouldn't mind getting a copy of them Sparky (If you don't mind). I have no clue how I can put them on my site but I'll give it a try. I'll send you a PM.
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i believe i still might also have that zip of images, but would have to find them.. Roy i lke the site, keen to help as much as i can and go through my gear as well..
now wouldnt it all kill us if there were magical chase variations ;)
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Also a question, did you get around to seperating the French/candaian and US boxes and manauls out? I know i have a jackie chan that also has french instructions.. plus a few others..
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i believe i still might also have that zip of images, but would have to find them.. Roy i lke the site, keen to help as much as i can and go through my gear as well..
Helps never turned down and always appreciated.
Also a question, did you get around to seperating the French/candaian and US boxes and manauls out?
I sure did take out all the pics with French/Canadian boxes and manuals. I really hadn't paid that close attention to that when I took the pics the first time. All of the pics up now are the US versions.
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id be keen to know what you found out about the french / Candadian stuff.. i think its useful to have perhaps in an additional section?
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id be keen to know what you found out about the french / Candadian stuff.. i think its useful to have perhaps in an additional section?
I can't say that I really found anything out about the French/Canadian stuff yet. I've mainly been focused on the U.S. stuff. I don't really have enough of it to really add an additional section right now.
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Oh sure esteban, take an already large possible project and turn it into an epic one. :lol: Let's see if some more people are interested in the manual scans and we can go from there. If there are people that want it done then I'll take you up on that offer. I'd much rather it be up on your site where it can actually look nice. My web skills are obviously nil lol.
Hahahahahhahhahaha!
I know.
Well, folks, anyone out there with lots of stuff, if you are willing to help... :)
I have nearly all the manuals, but I am missing some that cost $$$, so we'll see...
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Well, folks, anyone out there with lots of stuff, if you are willing to help... :)
I didn't mean I wasn't willing to help. I just meant I will help with the scans, I just prefer it on your site where it will look good. I'm more than happy to do whatever scans you need me to.
Speak up people, do you want a full run of manual scans?
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Sorry to change the discussion....but
just curious:
How many US/ Import TG16/CD/SCD/PCE/ACD/SGFX games does everyone own?
me? I'm at a whopping 6! WAHOO!!
Just got:
Blazing Lazers
Legendary Axe
Vigilante
TV Sports Hockey
TV Sports Football
and Implode on SCD!
:)
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How many US/ Import TG16/CD/SCD/PCE/ACD/SGFX games does everyone own?
I have somewhere around 150 games. Check out PCE Daisakusen!! (http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/), where many members have listed their PCE/TG collections, as should you; it's what all the cool kids are doing nowadays.
P.S. - Sorry about 1/3 of your collection being TV Sports titles. :|
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How many US/ Import TG16/CD/SCD/PCE/ACD/SGFX games does everyone own?
P.S. - Sorry about 1/3 of your collection being TV Sports titles. :|
I'll have to quickly get TV sports Basketball to make it a clean 3/7 of my collection!! :D
And thanks Necro-
http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/29/my-collection.htm
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Check out PCE Daisakusen!! (http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/)
Definately check it out. It's not to be missed.
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I were to have 100% of retailed collection in US Version except only 2 missing items. that would be foils on vasteel and exile 2.
but sold half already..
Am bumping up my collection and careless for the expesive games and keep on JIC to play.
Example.. Magical cahase.. i own japan version and sold us version.
same thing with SUPER CDrom games! =)
Check out PCE Daisakusen!! (http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/)
Definately check it out. It's not to be missed.
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I picked up a lot a while back that had something interesting in it. A Champions Forever Boxing poster. It's the first time I had ever seen it. It appears to be a pack in poster as its the exact same size and the Bonk's Revenge pack in poster. I took a couple pics of it, one is of the poster itself and the other is a comparison shot. What leaves me wondering is: Which version was it packed with, the red or the black or was it in both? Anyone ever open up Champions Forever Boxing when it first came out or open a sealed one and get this?
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/Misc/posters001.jpg)
Comparison Shot
(http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/Misc/posters002.jpg)
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Wow damn Champions Forever Poster... I gotta find one someday !!!
I have every boxes including the Foil slipcases except am missing a CIB Magical Chase so I only need to add Magical Chase and 3 female photo cds to my collection. But for the RES I have every single boxes and foil slip covers. So I will need to go through my collection and prune out the EXTRAS and sell or trade away my EXTRAS...
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(jumping up and down then up again*)
I have sealed.. anyone want to bet this has a poster!
Bet or BUY? its up in ebay and LMK the offers! =)
it s being held by someone with huge bundle offer!.. when this falls.. will let you guys know! =)
Wow damn Champions Forever Poster... I gotta find one someday !!!
I have every boxes including the Foil slipcases except am missing a CIB Magical Chase so I only need to add Magical Chase and 3 female photo cds to my collection. But for the RES I have every single boxes and foil slip covers. So I will need to go through my collection and prune out the EXTRAS and sell or trade away my EXTRAS...
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(jumping up and down then up again*)
I have sealed.. anyone want to bet this has a poster!
Bet or BUY? its up in ebay and LMK the offers! =)
it s being held by someone with huge bundle offer!.. when this falls.. will let you guys know! =)
wmac.. you and ebay... christ i think your a good guy but man... you are driven for those extra few dollars
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very few extras fyi..
i lose some and gain some.. tomake it even.. i aint complaining..
if i was like other seller (gamesquad, ultimate video collection).. iwould leave it high and sit in there forever! like torture!!!
i already cutted down the price on some games.. and leave there and waits for someone to PM me.. not message me on ebay.. but PM me on one of forums and make offers on BUNDLES.. ill be happy to deal with like i alway do!..
P.s. AM LOOKING FOR VOLTRON solid one!!!.. 12 inch .. if anyone interest.. im up for trade or cash! thanks
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Sooooo, anyone know anything about this here cool poster? :lol:
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LOL LOL.. yes im just asking cuz i have sealed and maybe we get answer from this one!.. if other seller falls.. maybe i should open and see what s in it?
This way I donate to community the knowledge???!!! (as if they falls)
The Sales and Trades section is right below the Discussion section.. [-X
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Sooooo, anyone know anything about this here cool poster? :lol:
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Picked up a handful of boxes and updated the site.
Still looking for an answer on the Champions Forever Boxing poster. :cry:
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Anyone ever open up Champions Forever Boxing when it first came out or open a sealed one and get this?
I had the game as a kid and I'm pretty sure I remember getting that poster, however that was a long time ago and I've lost a few braincells since then. Don't have my original one anymore but pretty sure it was the black version.
On a side note I rebought the game to check it out again and I can't believe I use to actually play this game. It's about as bad of a boxing game as you can get. Not that you guys probably don't already know that.
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That poster is terrible. If there was proof even a single kid hung that on their wall, the pro-life debate would lose a lot of steam.
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That poster is terrible. If there was proof even a single kid hung that on their wall, the pro-life debate would lose a lot of steam.
Sad to hear you say that, granted the game my not be the greatest but they're all legends and to have them all together on a poster that says Champions Forever and a Turbografx logo on it too? If you ask me, those factors = BADASS.
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Ken Norton kicks you ass on the Turbo Grafx 16. POW! Almost makes me weap seeing the five of them on a TURBO GRAFX game. Jackie Chan too.
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Maybe it is just because the game is so awful. The poster would be much more ace if it didn't mention the game.
Damn you Vegas guys are defensive about your "sport."
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Maybe it is just because the game is so awful. The poster would be much more ace if it didn't mention the game.
Damn you Vegas guys are defensive about your "sport."
No, the poster is ace because it flaunts its crappiness & its TG-16 glory.
Also: HOW HARD CAN YOU HIT? (http://archives.tg-16.com/turbo_play_0009.htm#more2)
:)
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Where's the Super System Card v3.0? I'm looking at one, but I'm almost certain that the back liner has been reproduced (it looks like it was done on a laser printer, complete with slight banding). Would you happen to have some good pics of the liner removed from the case?
This box was saved from an attacking pack of rabid wolves. Sad!
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Where's the Super System Card v3.0? I'm looking at one, but I'm almost certain that the back liner has been reproduced (it looks like it was done on a laser printer, complete with slight banding). Would you happen to have some good pics of the liner removed from the case?
I hadn't had any plans on adding accessories, sytems, or system cards to the site but you're the second person who asked (blackandblue asked earlier). I guess I should get some pics up there. It will take me a bit to get the pics on the site so to help you alil faster Necro I'll take the pics tonight and put them up in the thread first. I'll add them to the site later.
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Thanks for that. I suppose I don't really need pics, but rather confirmation that it should have a 'normal' liner (i.e. - professional offset printed heavyweight paper).
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Thanks for that. I suppose I don't really need pics, but rather confirmation that it should have a 'normal' liner (i.e. - professional offset printed heavyweight paper).
I go home for lunch in a little over an hour and will check on this for you. The hevyweight paper is pretty obvious however I am unclear what you mean by offset printed.. Can you clarify exactly what you mean? Just want to make sure I know what I'm looking for.
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Can you clarify exactly what you mean?
Offset printing presses are used for most professionally printed stuff (magazines, brochures, etc.), so in other words: does the print quality look like the manuals and liners from every other game (glossy finish with smooth and continuous coloring), or does it look like somebody whipped it out at home on an inkjet/laser printer? I'd be really surprised if it isn't professionally printed, considering it didn't come out that late in the Turbo's run (like the DEII second prints and their b&w xerox manuals), but I'd like to make absolutely sure before telling someone they're copy is incomplete.
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Thanks for the clarification Necro, 45 mins until I go home for lunch, I'll let ya know then.
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Ok I took a close look at the back of the card's back insert and it's definately printed on the same paper as all of the other games back inserts. It is glossy with continuous coloring. Along the folds where the sides meet the back are perforated just like other CD games are. Hopefully this helps you out, if not just let me know.
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That settles it, the copy I'm looking at is definitely a reproduction. Thanks, Roy.
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Added the system cards to the site since Necro got me motivated. I have more to add soon.
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Unfortunately, we mgiht leave this as mystery for a while. My sealed Championship Forever Boxing sold to one serious collector.
Shrug! Was about to open (today) if they did not made the payment but surely did paid!
Hope someone else will answer to this one soon
LOL LOL.. yes im just asking cuz i have sealed and maybe we get answer from this one!.. if other seller falls.. maybe i should open and see what s in it?
This way I donate to community the knowledge???!!! (as if they falls)
The Sales and Trades section is right below the Discussion section.. [-X
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Sooooo, anyone know anything about this here cool poster? :lol:
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It will be hard to tell even if you did open your sealed copy. Some games came with posters and some didn't. For instance some Tale Spins came with a poster and some didn't. How do I know? I opened one just for the poster and it wasn't there. You have to buy a Tale Spin that is clearly marked with a sticker that says "poster inside."
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isee..
mine has no stickers saying poster inside. when you opened one. black edition or red?
if its black one.. maybe poster inside come out with red only?
It will be hard to tell even if you did open your sealed copy. Some games came with posters and some didn't. For instance some Tale Spins came with a poster and some didn't. How do I know? I opened one just for the poster and it wasn't there. You have to buy a Tale Spin that is clearly marked with a sticker that says "poster inside."
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when you opened one. black edition or red?
if its black one.. maybe poster inside come out with red only?
You have two different things I said confused. What I was saying about opening one for the poster was Tale Spin.
Also added a bunch of stuff to the site. I added a accessories, converters, magazines, consoles, system cards, misc. and books sections. I don't have all of the pics up yet but there are some up. I'm slowly workin on it.
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Ya drive me nuts at times Roy but your site actually made me aware of Insanity that i totally missed the boat on <<blush>>
It is a helpful picture resource for those die hard collectors out there, So i will take back what i said that this is a big show and tell site for ya.... ummmm......nah no i wont :P huggles!!!!!
Now, If you could just get things as clickable links as the flood of picts all coming up at once makes me want to choke ya!!!
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Glad you found some use out of it Sparky.
Now, If you could just get things as clickable links as the flood of picts all coming up at once makes me want to choke ya!!!
To save myself from the brutal choking, can you explain that a little more? What I get from what your saying is say for instance on the main page you have the letters A-Z. As you click on one of them it would bring up a new page with the name of each game where you can click it and it will take you to just that one game? Thus not having to look at all the pictures in 1 shot?
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Glad you found some use out of it Sparky.
Now, If you could just get things as clickable links as the flood of picts all coming up at once makes me want to choke ya!!!
To save myself from the brutal choking, can you explain that a little more? What I get from what your saying is say for instance on the main page you have the letters A-Z. As you click on one of them it would bring up a new page with the name of each game where you can click it and it will take you to just that one game? Thus not having to look at all the pictures in 1 shot?
correct!!! that would help and stop the scrolling :)
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Yeah, that's definately a good idea. Hopefully I can get that done sometime this weekend.
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Ok Sparky. Changed the entire site so it was clickable links. Should be a little more user friendly now so you don't have to look at any pics you don't want to. Looks a lot better now, excellent idea.
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cooool man!!! it is your site so you do what ya want but i like the option now :)
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you need to give it a facelift! Some kinda background, and some kinda neat font, or some kinda something!
:)
but dont listen to me, since my site looks like a meth smokin' TRON reject made it.
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Ever think about a "click here to claim for free" button under some of those games?
...or at least providing you email address where one could send, say... $3 for a Vigilante manual?
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you need to give it a facelift! Some kinda background, and some kinda neat font, or some kinda something!
:)
but dont listen to me, since my site looks like a meth smokin' TRON reject made it.
Before....
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/turbocollector_before.gif)
Current...
http://turbocollector.com (http://turbocollector.com/)
Soon to be...
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/turbocollector_after.gif)
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I can't even begin to thank esteban enough for doing this. He wasn't asked to do it, he just took his own time, played with it and asked me what I thought. My sites always looked horrible and I knew it but now thanks to esteban's kindness it looks great. :clap: :clap: :clap: THANKS ESTEBAN!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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really nice!!! that esteban is a good shit :)
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I can't even begin to thank esteban enough for doing this. He wasn't asked to do it, he just took his own time, played with it and asked me what I thought. My sites always looked horrible and I knew it but now thanks to esteban's kindness it looks great. :clap: :clap: :clap: THANKS ESTEBAN!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
you sound like me, pre-assistance on aetherbyte.com :D i can't even stay inside the lines with a crayon, let along design a website :)
and, the new layout looks purdy dayum awesome.
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esteban the mighty knight :)
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Added a few updates to the site on items I was previously missing. Getting close to the end, only a couple missing items left.
Updated:
Magical Chase box
Tale Spin poster
Beyond Shadowgate poster.
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How you find all these items I need and can never find? The Beyond Shadowgate poster has been very elusive to me.
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How you find all these items I need and can never find? The Beyond Shadowgate poster has been very elusive to me.
It's a very complicated and drawn out process. Try to stick with me here as I describe it in all it's complicated entirety. First make a "Want to buy" thread, then bump it do death. People will message you when they are ready to sell. :dance:
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Well, I have the poster and maybe selling my Beyond Shadowgate, but, unforunately the seem on the poster has a slight tear in it :x :(
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See Clash.... If people know you want stuff, you're more likely to get it... :lol:
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My biggest thing is I dont know what a complete copy of the game is worth.... like I said the poster has a seam rip but other wise, book, game, case all there, all in good shape.... not MIB or anything but not jacked up either. Will be selling other things In my collection as well.... unfortunately :cry:
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My biggest thing is I dont know what a complete copy of the game is worth.... like I said the poster has a seam rip but other wise, book, game, case all there, all in good shape.... not MIB or anything but not jacked up either. Will be selling other things In my collection as well.... unfortunately :cry:
Do you have a Turrican box? :mrgreen:
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My biggest thing is I dont know what a complete copy of the game is worth.... like I said the poster has a seam rip but other wise, book, game, case all there, all in good shape.... not MIB or anything but not jacked up either. Will be selling other things In my collection as well.... unfortunately :cry:
Do you have a Turrican box? :mrgreen:
Nope, just Turrican. I was never a collector in my younger years so boxes went out with the trash.... sorry
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So did everyone elses. :lol: Par for the course.
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Hey Roy, I appreciate the site you set up. Although I've had a collection of games since the early 90s (when you could still get the games in retail stores), I've learned some things. I didn't know that there were 2 different color chips for Champions Forever Boxing. I was never fond of it, maybe the one I got was the lousy version.
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Hey Roy, I appreciate the site you set up. Although I've had a collection of games since the early 90s (when you could still get the games in retail stores), I've learned some things. I didn't know that there were 2 different color chips for Champions Forever Boxing. I was never fond of it, maybe the one I got was the lousy version.
Glad you found some use for it.
The only difference in the two Champions Forever Boxing is the color of the Hu card, they're both lousy. :lol:
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Cool, it's always nice to have a new Turbo site. Don't let anyone ruin your fun!
I'd like to see more pics of accessories and other items, since I'm not as clear on what kind of random items are actually out there.
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I'd like to see more pics of accessories and other items, since I'm not as clear on what kind of random items are actually out there.
As they aren't always easy to find, these items are going to take time for me to find and buy at a decent price. As I get them I'll definately add them. In the meantime there are a few threads here that have pics of some of the cool swag that's out there.
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hey Roy, have you thought about people sending you picts of stuff you dont have to help your site? Just a thought.
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Roy, I was looking through your site and saw that 2 games do not list their original "extras". I haven't opened a recent copy to confirm if they are still included, but TV Sports Football had a "quick start menu card" and World Class Baseball had a "Player Stats" Booklet. If you need pictures of what these look like, let me know.
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hey Roy, have you thought about people sending you picts of stuff you dont have to help your site? Just a thought.
I did consider it. Being the site is more about showing what games actually came with, I didn't really worry about the rest of the stuff as it's just a bonus.
Roy, I was looking through your site and saw that 2 games do not list their original "extras". I haven't opened a recent copy to confirm if they are still included, but TV Sports Football had a "quick start menu card" and World Class Baseball had a "Player Stats" Booklet. If you need pictures of what these look like, let me know.
The World Class Baseball stats booklet I was actually aware of and it's on the way. Once it gets here I'll upload the pics.
The TV Sports Football quick start menu card I don't believe I've seen. If you could toss up a pic so I know what I'm looking for that would be awesome.
Also, can anyone else confirm this quick start menu card?
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I can CONFIRM that this is correct that TV SPORTS Football came with the plays sheet and World Class Baseball comes with Players stats sheet that is why I bought my WCB brand new from a friend of mine and opened it :D
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Yes, TV Football has the quick start card. I have extra copies Roy if you want one PM me if you do, no charge.
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Yes, TV Football has the quick start card. I have extra copies Roy if you want one PM me if you do, no charge.
You sir, are the man. PM'd!
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Finally getting around to taking pics of boxed Turbos for my website but I'd like to double check before take pics and put them up. There are two boxed (regular box and holiday box) versions I have that I'd like to double check the contents to make sure I post them as complete and if not, what they are missing. I'd like to do them one at a time to avoid any confusion. Let's do the original Turbo first.
Version 1 - Regular Turbografx-16
1. The box itself.
2. Two styrofoam inserts (on that holds the turbo and the other holds the rest of the items included.
3. Turbografx-16 with back cover
4. A/C Adapter
5. RF
6. One controller
7. Keith Courage w/comic
8. Large black cardboard Thank You card
9. Instructions
10. Turbografx-16 poster
Anything else I'm missing?
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I know someone has to have a boxed Turbo to verify what's in theirs........
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Sorry for the slow response Roy. Here are the photos of the Player Stats book. Klax also had a registration card and Gate Of Thunder had the surprise card for bomberman. Here are photos of them:
http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/henrycsc70/Game%20Extras/ (http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/henrycsc70/Game Extras/)
I'll let you know if I find anything else.
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Sorry for the slow response Roy. Here are the photos of the Player Stats book. Klax also had a registration card and Gate Of Thunder had the surprise card for bomberman. Here are photos of them:
http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/henrycsc70/Game%20Extras/ (http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/henrycsc70/Game Extras/)
I'll let you know if I find anything else.
Thanks for the input Henry!
The World Class Baseball stat sheet will be put up as soon as it gets here. It should arrive any day now.
The Klax card and GoT suprise card I will make a note of them missing sometime this weekend. Thanks for catching them.
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Additional missing items noted on the site. Thanks Henry
Added a Kisado converter and the Chopsado converter.
Still looking on confirmation from a few posts ago about what was included in a complete Turbografx-16. Can someone confirm the contents I listed earlier?
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Roy,
I can confirm some, but not everything on your consoles, accessories
Turbo Express - They Originally came with 6 NEC AA batteries (3 - 2packs, green). Everything else I can confirm.
TG-16 I have everything except the comic book. I bought 2 systems new from Toys R Us and I dont have the comic, so I'm not sure if some didn't get it. Mine were probably some of the very last original stock that was sent to retail stores because I bought them when the store discontinued them.
I'll get you photos of the accessories that I have.
My cables for the booster plus are a little different, and mine came with a registration card (different than the turbostick kind)
I have the complete Express AC Adapter.
I do also have a card introducing the Booster Plus and CD Unit that I believe was a game pack in for one of the games that used the save feature. The card lists the games, but I'm not sure which game(s) had the card as I only have one.