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Title: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: MotherGunner on October 26, 2009, 01:17:45 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5388110/what-would-happen-to-wallet-bulge-if-this-all+in+one-credit-card-were-real
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: esteban on October 26, 2009, 02:07:32 PM
Holy carp!

At first, I totally didn't "get it", but then, when I finally realized what you meant...


:)


What an absolutley marvelous find! I'm gonna revive an old thread to include this gem.

Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: nat on October 26, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
That was f*cking random.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: Joe Redifer on October 26, 2009, 04:05:03 PM
No kidding.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: Necromancer on October 27, 2009, 03:08:32 AM
Kinda funny and he's aping the color scheme quite nicely; he must be a big fan of both the Turbo and Tolkien.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: ceti alpha on October 27, 2009, 03:22:04 AM
Wow. That's really odd, but cool.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: MotherGunner on October 27, 2009, 05:20:02 AM
I wonder if HuCards fit in that wallet.  My guess is yes.

Glad you guys liked it.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 27, 2009, 06:48:34 AM
I think I don't get it.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: RoyVegas on October 27, 2009, 07:09:35 AM
I think I don't get it.

I think I'm with you.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: ceti alpha on October 27, 2009, 07:21:01 AM
I think I don't get it.

I think I'm with you.

I'm not sure, but I think because of the nature of this new all-in-one credit card, with its pin feature, showed in a couple of the mock-up illustrations. It's still pretty random though. heh
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: exodus on October 27, 2009, 07:54:30 AM
I think there's nothing to get. there's a sticker in the picture, and the color scheme is similar to the turbo controller. I think that's all...
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: nat on October 27, 2009, 11:29:24 AM
There's a TurboGrafx sticker in the picture along with a bunch of receipts and other non-related items. That's why it's random.

What the f*ck does the TurboGrafx have to do with this new card?
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 27, 2009, 11:49:24 AM
The title of this post is "Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article", which sounds like it would be another post whining about 1UP or some other crappy website but the only TG-16 related thing I can see is the sticker (or whatever it is). So is this article itself the "misleading TG-16 Article", or is there more to it?

BTW, this card is the stupidest f*cking thing since the SUV. The appearance of a card hasn't mattered since the invention of the magnetic strip. Its the data on it that counts. f*cking design students...
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: Necromancer on October 27, 2009, 12:14:54 PM
The title of this post is "Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article", which sounds like it would be another post whining about 1UP or some other crappy website but the only TG-16 related thing I can see is the sticker (or whatever it is). So is this article itself the "misleading TG-16 Article", or is there more to it?

You'd almost think the title was a bit of a joke or something, but that's just crazy talk.

BTW, this card is the stupidest f*cking thing since the SUV. The appearance of a card hasn't mattered since the invention of the magnetic strip. Its the data on it that counts. f*cking design students...

Did you bother to read the article, or did you just look at the pretty pictures?  It clearly states that the data on the magnetic strip changes to match whatever card is selected, so your point is moot.  Admittedly, the card image is little more than eye candy (akin to album covers on mp3 players), but it doesn't necessitate any major changes to the design, as the screen is already required for displaying stored receipts.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 27, 2009, 03:30:17 PM
The title of this post is "Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article", which sounds like it would be another post whining about 1UP or some other crappy website but the only TG-16 related thing I can see is the sticker (or whatever it is). So is this article itself the "misleading TG-16 Article", or is there more to it?

You'd almost think the title was a bit of a joke or something, but that's just crazy talk.

If it is a joke then please explain the joke, because I just don't get it. The only explanation I can think if is it that the sticker in the background seems to allude to this thing having a secondary function mimicking a flash HuCard, which it doesn't, and therefor its misleading? In that case...that's all true, so its not a joke at all.

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BTW, this card is the stupidest f*cking thing since the SUV. The appearance of a card hasn't mattered since the invention of the magnetic strip. Its the data on it that counts. f*cking design students...

Did you bother to read the article, or did you just look at the pretty pictures?  It clearly states that the data on the magnetic strip changes to match whatever card is selected, so your point is moot.  Admittedly, the card image is little more than eye candy (akin to album covers on mp3 players), but it doesn't necessitate any major changes to the design, as the screen is already required for displaying stored receipts.

Yes, I did read the article because I was trying to figure out the point of this post...I failed there. What I do understand though is that multiplying the costs of manufacturing a credit card by a factor of at least 1000 is utterly stupid. You can't just duplicate a magnetic strip on your own legally, so anything like this would have to be done with the cooperation of any and all institutions who's data/accounts/whatever you want to use. In that case I'm sure they would rather just back a strip that contained a sort of "master key" to allow you access of all your accounts, or maybe to just have all the account numbers on there. Having it actually change from one thing to another is pointless when it can just be everything at once with a $0.01 RFID chip. The graphic on a credit card is little more than an advertisement for the bank. My point is that this this is stupidly over-engineered, I see nothing "moot" about that point. Just think of all the IT people the banks would have to hire to support thing thing.

BTW, I have no plans for a reply to the 12,000 word flame response that you are certain to add to this thread, so don't bother putting a lot of work into it. In fact, you might as well just skip it.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: Tatsujin on October 27, 2009, 05:19:34 PM
very cool. probably that all-in-one CC card is using huey-technologies inside.
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: Necromancer on October 28, 2009, 04:48:55 AM
If it is a joke then please explain the joke, because I just don't get it. The only explanation I can think if is it that the sticker in the background seems to allude to this thing having a secondary function mimicking a flash HuCard, which it doesn't, and therefor its misleading? In that case...that's all true, so its not a joke at all.

I took the title as a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor, as it wasn't the article that was misleading but rather the title itself.

What I do understand though is that multiplying the costs of manufacturing a credit card by a factor of at least 1000 is utterly stupid.

If all it did was mimic a few credit cards, I'd agree, but it's also meant to store the receipts and whatnot that some people cram in their wallets, though he doesn't explain how they'd get into the device.  It'd be better if it did even more..... like make calls.  More on that in a bit.

You can't just duplicate a magnetic strip on your own legally, so anything like this would have to be done with the cooperation of any and all institutions who's data/accounts/whatever you want to use. In that case I'm sure they would rather just back a strip that contained a sort of "master key" to allow you access of all your accounts, or maybe to just have all the account numbers on there.

No doubt there's some serious hurdles, but feasibility always takes the back seat in a design charrette.

Having it actually change from one thing to another is pointless when it can just be everything at once with a $0.01 RFID chip.

I'd guess that he wanted to maintain compatibility with all the swipe machines currently in use.

The graphic on a credit card is little more than an advertisement for the bank. My point is that this this is stupidly over-engineered, I see nothing "moot" about that point.

That wasn't the point I took from your previous statement; I read it to mean that he neglected to address the most important part (the magnetic strip), which was untrue.  If the 'over-engineered' complaint mainly refers to the screen, then you still seem wide of the mark, as the screen is not used solely for displaying the card's image.

Just think of all the IT people the banks would have to hire to support thing thing.

No more than what would be necessary to implement the 'pay by cell' systems widely used in other parts of the world (especially Japan).  Such a device would be a lot handier than this 'wallet', considering most people already carry phones, though going entirely contact-less would make it impossible for people to use many existing devices.  I'd think that not being able to use an atm or pay at the gas pump would be a big turnoff, though I suppose a swipe-able strip could be incorporated into a phone somehow.

BTW, I have no plans for a reply to the 12,000 word flame response that you are certain to add to this thread, so don't bother putting a lot of work into it. In fact, you might as well just skip it.

:lol:
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: ceti alpha on October 28, 2009, 06:20:42 AM
BTW, I have no plans for a reply to the 12,000 word flame response that you are certain to add to this thread, so don't bother putting a lot of work into it. In fact, you might as well just skip it.

:lol:

LOLMAX!!   :lol: :lol: :clap:

That was good.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: blueraven on October 28, 2009, 12:03:13 PM
Great Article! Thans for the link, that idea is very innovative. The TG logo was nice too.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: MotherGunner on October 28, 2009, 03:12:13 PM
Oh jeez...yes the title was meant to convey sarcasm about the article.  Upon seeing it, it made it seem like it was gonna be an article about the TG-16 and then your realize it is not.  So it's a misleading article [about the TG-16].."Dammit" to convey I felt cheated out of a possible good TG-16 article. 

Don't get it?  No problem.  I'll still sleep well tonight.    =)
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: MotherGunner on October 28, 2009, 03:17:13 PM
There's a TurboGrafx sticker in the picture along with a bunch of receipts and other non-related items. That's why it's random.

What the f*ck does the TurboGrafx have to do with this new card?

Thanks for "getting it".  My thoughts exactly.   
Title: Re: Dammit, misleading TG-16 Article
Post by: esteban on October 28, 2009, 03:41:02 PM
There's a TurboGrafx sticker in the picture along with a bunch of receipts and other non-related items. That's why it's random.

What the f*ck does the TurboGrafx have to do with this new card?

Thanks for "getting it".  My thoughts exactly.   

Wait, there's a TG-16 sticker in the picture? WTF???!!!

:)