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Title: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on January 18, 2010, 06:23:43 PM
Folks, you are probably aware of my passion for JJ & Jeff (and Kato & Ken) these past few years. You may also recall that I thought this game was merely mediocre 20 years ago. UPDATE: I added images from each performance to lure more folks into watching these fantastic videos. Enjoy. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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Takeaki Kunimoto (he composed all these songs!!) and Ken Matsuzawa (me). These are old game music from "J.J. & Jeff". Title～Stage1～Sea scene～Night scene（カトちゃん＆ケンちゃん / J.J. & Jeff）
HIGHLIGHTS: 02:20 -- New vocal arrangement! 05:18 -- The best goddamn rendition of "Night Scene" you'll ever hear (or see)... ---> Takeaki uses a FRIGGIN' Diamonica (a melodica with a tube attached to the mouthpiece...I suppose this made it more comfortable to play). I used to play the melodica when I was a kid...it was totally fun.
Unfortunately, this video isn't as great as the previous. Nonetheless, it has at least one nugget of goodness: 03:00 -- a fantastically slow and moody 30-second intro that segues into the familiar harpsichord-laden sewer tune. Goddamn, it makes me cry. This track ends abruptly, IMO.
NOTE: You may not appreciate these videos. You will probably listen to 10 seconds and say "meh". Whatever. JJ & Jeff friggin' rule. And the music, with it's neo-Baroque-harpsichord-meets-lounge-act-organ goodness, is fantastic. Give it a chance, you goddamn jaded bastards. Give it a friggin' chance.
To celebrate the 20 year anniversary of obtaining JJ & Jeff for free from Electronics Boutique (a story for another day), I would like to share the following goodies with you:
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/JJ_and_Jeff_01.jpg)
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/JJ_and_Jeff_02.jpg)
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: ScumBum on January 25, 2010, 12:35:46 PM
Those were cool videos . 8) Long Live JJ & Jeff !
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: alexsduo on January 26, 2010, 02:53:48 AM
man, that is sooo cool!
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on January 27, 2010, 03:26:55 PM
My favorite moment is when Takeaki uses a Diamonica (a melodica) and really gets into it.
Wonderful!
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: ScumBum on January 31, 2010, 04:02:40 AM
I've been playing JJ & Jeff alot lately and have been wondering is there a way to continue or do you always have to start at the beginning when you get game over ?
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: Otaking on February 02, 2010, 01:04:46 AM
Awesome! love this! :clap: :clap:
Check the Kato & Ken PC-Engine TV add
:dance: :dance:
and a bit of Ken Chan Ramen... yum yum... hope he doesn't piss in it
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on February 10, 2010, 03:07:29 PM
Check the Kato & Ken PC-Engine TV add http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxz4CZUa5MM
:dance: :dance:
and a bit of Ken Chan Ramen... yum yum... hope he doesn't piss in it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGik1kKpqDo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZNx-HOWJw
Ha! I had never seen the PCE advertisement before.
As for the ramen... crazy, goofy stuff!
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on August 14, 2012, 12:34:51 AM
This thread needed to be resurrected for: (1) any JJ & Jeff fan (2) any JJ & Jeff hater who wants to see Takeaki play a Diamonica (3) any fan of the Diamonica (a melodica)
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: MrFlutterPie on August 14, 2012, 09:14:11 AM
I have been playing JJ & Jeff recently myself and have been enjoying it. It's no Bonk but it's pretty decent so far :)
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on August 15, 2012, 02:11:56 AM
UPDATE: I added wonderful screen captures to the original post! Now you can see the Diamonica and the bass guitar that Kunimoto plays. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Also: WHY OH WHY DOES NO ONE CARE ABOUT THESE AWESOME VIDEOS?! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png) I must be the only person obsessed with this (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png)
I have been playing JJ & Jeff recently myself and have been enjoying it. It's no Bonk but it's pretty decent so far :)
Essentially, if you enjoy the original Wonderboy (SMS) or Adventure Island (NES), then you will probably enjoy JJ & Jeff since it is a variation (dare I say "evolution") of that platforming formula.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 15, 2012, 02:30:57 AM
Heh, I love this game, even the bastardized localization that is JJ & Jeff. Particularly the music.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: MrFlutterPie on August 15, 2012, 02:37:23 AM
This is sweet!!!
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on August 15, 2012, 04:13:09 AM
Maybe I need to give this game another try. I only ever thought it was just ok....
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: MrFlutterPie on August 15, 2012, 06:08:38 AM
The game is more on the average end but it features sweet music and a ton of secrets and exploration that bumps it up a bit.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: blueraven on August 15, 2012, 06:37:34 AM
I think I just threw up a little.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: Bardoly on August 15, 2012, 07:26:01 AM
I just got this game recently, and I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. I'll have to give it a play soon.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: DragonmasterDan on August 15, 2012, 12:12:30 PM
I love hearing this music performed live, sheer awesome!
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: geise on August 15, 2012, 12:55:05 PM
HOLY HELL! How did I miss this thread years ago? I love JJ & Jeff! I have both versions just for the crazy differences. I never bothered to track down the music composers for some odd reason. Thank you esteban! I love crazy music like this. One more reason I'm a huge Mats/Morgan fan. Haha everyone at that show is at least in their 30's. Totally awesome! :D
BTW Matsuzawa posted this himself? :shock: Nice! :D
Also why is tats not there drunk and dancing around!? :-k I figured he'd be bum rushing the stage when the diamonica got pulled out.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: Keith Courage on August 15, 2012, 03:17:28 PM
I like the game. Never really liked the music though....
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: SignOfZeta on August 15, 2012, 06:00:22 PM
This...is pretty great. Not sure what I was doing in 2010 that caused me to miss this thread.
BTW, if you have the Saturn version of Puyo Puyo Tsu there is a pretty f*cking awesome concert bonus. It was a live event to promote the game (these terrible things happen all the time in Japan) and its basically three guys with vintage (even then) Korg junk making really cool music. Maybe I'll upload it to Youtube some day.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: Mathius on August 16, 2012, 03:25:13 AM
Not sure why JJ & Jeff get so much hate. I enjoy it for what it's worth. It's actually very playable compared to the lower tier Turbo games.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on August 16, 2012, 04:19:24 AM
BTW, if you have the Saturn version of Puyo Puyo Tsu there is a pretty f*cking awesome concert bonus. It was a live event to promote the game (these terrible things happen all the time in Japan) and its basically three guys with vintage (even then) Korg junk making really cool music. Maybe I'll upload it to Youtube some day.
You gotta upload that! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: geise on August 16, 2012, 05:59:19 AM
BTW, if you have the Saturn version of Puyo Puyo Tsu there is a pretty f*cking awesome concert bonus. It was a live event to promote the game (these terrible things happen all the time in Japan) and its basically three guys with vintage (even then) Korg junk making really cool music. Maybe I'll upload it to Youtube some day.
You gotta upload that! (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Word. 8)
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: SignOfZeta on August 16, 2012, 06:40:50 AM
OK, I lied, its actually five guys.
BTW, Youtube was the only way I could even watch this video without putting it into an actual Saturn. Quicktime X, classic Quicktime wouldn't play it. VLC played it, but with no audio. This is good news since I don't have a capture card anymore.
Now *thats* how you rock %0.25 of a football stadium.
BTW, early 90s dorks are a lot less scary and pathetic looking that current day dorks.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: blueraven on August 17, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
JJ and Jeff is horrible. Although it is more playable than Falcon.
esteban will surely change the word horrible in the previous sentence to something like "spectacular", and then say "fixed it for you" :D
I like JJ & Jeff, admittedly a lot of it is nostalgia but it controls pretty well has nice graphics and a funny theme. It was many years later that I got a chance to play Kato and Ken and I get why people say JJ & Jeff is so butchered.
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: esteban on August 17, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
JJ and Jeff is horrible. Although it is more playable than Falcon.
esteban will surely change the word horrible in the previous sentence to something like "spectacular", and then say "fixed it for you" :D
I like JJ & Jeff, admittedly a lot of it is nostalgia but it controls pretty well has nice graphics and a funny theme. It was many years later that I got a chance to play Kato and Ken and I get why people say JJ & Jeff is so butchered.
You guys are forgetting that I *originally* (circa 1990) thought JJ & Jeff was mediocre/average, at best. Yes, I played it and enjoyed it, but I thought it was fundamentally lacking.
Fast forward a decade, with a chance to compare JJ & Jeff (and, eventually, Kato-chan & Ken-chan) to all the other platformers of the 8-bit and 16-bit world...and I realized that it wasn't such mediocre bilge as I had previously thought.
Years ago, my favorite description of JJ & Jeff was "the bastard-child of Wonderboy/Adventure Island."
BTW, Youtube was the only way I could even watch this video without putting it into an actual Saturn. Quicktime X, classic Quicktime wouldn't play it. VLC played it, but with no audio. This is good news since I don't have a capture card anymore.
Now *thats* how you rock %0.25 of a football stadium.
BTW, early 90s dorks are a lot less scary and pathetic looking that current day dorks.
Do you know what is more amazing than the plumpness of the singer? The fact that I wish I was at that damn "concert"!. I was old enough to go with getting a permission slip, too. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: Tatsujin on August 18, 2012, 12:09:20 AM
Also why is tats not there drunk and dancing around!? :-k I figured he'd be bum rushing the stage when the diamonica got pulled out.
Exactly! My best guess: he's passed out in the bathroom. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
LOL, if I knew about this event then, you probably really would find me there drunk and dancing around..lol.
btw. the songs REALLY sound PCEish :D
Title: Re: JJ & Jeff, alive and well 2010 C.E.
Post by: Tatsujin on August 18, 2012, 12:23:26 AM
regarding kato-chan & ken-chan. I always thougt of it as a very good and outstanding game (for its time). I first saw its graphics in a german game mag back in the end of 1988, and I thought I was dreaming, it looked so good and full of life. Watch at those woods, it's just like you're actually right there the adventure takes place (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)