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Title: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: guyjin on March 23, 2010, 01:38:03 PM
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

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A Princeton University research team has demonstrated that all sweeteners are not equal when it comes to weight gain: Rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained significantly more weight than those with access to table sugar, even when their overall caloric intake was the same.

In addition to causing significant weight gain in lab animals, long-term consumption of high-fructose corn syrup also led to abnormal increases in body fat, especially in the abdomen, and a rise in circulating blood fats called triglycerides. The researchers say the work sheds light on the factors contributing to obesity trends in the United States.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 23, 2010, 01:40:38 PM
Duh!

:)


Though I am an anomaly.  I drink pop all day and dont get no fats from it
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 23, 2010, 02:16:06 PM
May be?  People love to bitch about how "diet" cola is bad for you.  I would never classify diet drinks as nutritious or beneficial, but I'd rather drink that stuff than the high fructose corn syrup-laden non-diet drinks.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: guyjin on March 23, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
May be?  People love to bitch about how "diet" cola is bad for you.  I would never classify diet drinks as nutritious or beneficial, but I'd rather drink that stuff than the high fructose corn syrup-laden non-diet drinks.

It's not just pop.
Quote from: the article
High-fructose corn syrup is found in a wide range of foods and beverages, including fruit juice, soda, cereal, bread, yogurt, ketchup and mayonnaise.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 23, 2010, 04:15:45 PM
May be?  People love to bitch about how "diet" cola is bad for you.  I would never classify diet drinks as nutritious or beneficial, but I'd rather drink that stuff than the high fructose corn syrup-laden non-diet drinks.

its beneficial to diabetics.  kind of.  if thats what you want to call it.  My dad drinks it because otherwise his sugar goes through the roof.  Good ol' artificial sweeteners.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 23, 2010, 05:37:18 PM
Guyjin, that is obvious.  I was using diet soda as an example.  Diet soda won't make you skinnier, but regular soda is worse for your overall health.  HFCS is practically an industry standard.  The corn industry is friggin' HUGE.  It's almost as if real sugar is illegal... the proliferation of HFCS sure makes it seem that way.

Arkhan, I agree.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: guyjin on March 23, 2010, 11:25:26 PM
Guyjin, that is obvious. 

Was it? I had no idea it was in bread until I read about this: I went and looked and all my bread has HFCS in it.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: jperryss on March 24, 2010, 01:50:26 AM
Yep, HFCS is used as a sweetener (sodas, juices, etc) and as a filler (bread, etc). You'd have to go out of your way to completely avoid it, it's in everything.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Necromancer on March 24, 2010, 02:31:51 AM
Diet soda won't make you skinnier, but regular soda is worse for your overall health.

Agreed.  If you're fat, then you eat too much and/or exercise too little; don't blame anyone else for your giant ass..... nom, nom, nom..... where'd my cookie go?

HFCS is practically an industry standard.  The corn industry is friggin' HUGE.  It's almost as if real sugar is illegal... the proliferation of HFCS sure makes it seem that way.

Indeed.  It's all about price - corn syrup is cheap due to government subsidies to corn farmers and sugar is disproportionately pricey due to tariffs and import quotas (i.e. - stupid gubmint).
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Tatsujin on March 24, 2010, 02:35:35 AM
Duh!

:)


Though I am an anomaly.  I drink pop all day and dont get no fats from it

lol.. you're also around the 20. just wait till ya grown bit older :P
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 24, 2010, 05:37:27 AM

lol.. you're also around the 20. just wait till ya grown bit older :P

listen, thats what tapeworms are for.

throw one of those suckers in with my oatmeal, down the hatch, and im on the road to weight loss
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 24, 2010, 06:08:12 AM
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Was it? I had no idea it was in bread until I read about this: I went and looked and all my bread has HFCS in it.

I meant it was obvious it wasn't only in cola.  I think we'd all be surprised how much stuff HFCS is actually in.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 24, 2010, 09:11:48 AM
I hear if you eat too much of it, it causes drain bamage.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Necromancer on March 24, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
I hear if you eat too much of it, it causes drain bamage.

Are those words of personal experience?  :P

I prefer the crayon in the cranium method myself.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 24, 2010, 09:34:50 AM
I hear if you eat too much of it, it causes drain bamage.

Are those words of personal experience?  :P

I prefer the crayon in the cranium method myself.

Eating crayons adds more imagination to your drain.  Doesnt bamage it at all.

Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Necromancer on March 24, 2010, 09:39:41 AM
Eating crayons adds more imagination to your drain.  Doesnt bamage it at all.

Screw that; shove 'em up your nose, Homer style.  :dance:
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 24, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
I AM SO SMRT.

S-M-R-T!
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: nodtveidt on March 27, 2010, 03:06:28 PM
HFCS is pretty damn hard to avoid, and we know this because we attempt very hard to avoid it. That's one of the reasons I've been consistently losing weight over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on March 27, 2010, 05:37:51 PM
This is an honest request:

I would like to find a "food" product that has ridiculous amounts of corn syrup + hydrogenated oil + salt/sodium + (optional) MSG + (optional) refined flour.

A killer combination, for sure.  But what can it taste like? That's what I want to know. I want to eat it, at least once.

Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: rag-time4 on March 27, 2010, 08:32:12 PM
This is an honest request:

I would like to find a "food" product that has ridiculous amounts of corn syrup + hydrogenated oil + salt/sodium + (optional) MSG + (optional) refined flour.

A killer combination, for sure.  But what can it taste like? That's what I want to know. I want to eat it, at least once.


It probably tastes like a donut.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on March 28, 2010, 06:27:28 AM
This is an honest request:

I would like to find a "food" product that has ridiculous amounts of corn syrup + hydrogenated oil + salt/sodium + (optional) MSG + (optional) refined flour.

A killer combination, for sure.  But what can it taste like? That's what I want to know. I want to eat it, at least once.


It probably tastes like a donut.

You're probably right! But which donut? Where can I get the most ungodly, unholiest of all donuts?

The kind that kill on sight.



Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 28, 2010, 09:09:29 AM
HFCS is pretty damn hard to avoid, and we know this because we attempt very hard to avoid it. That's one of the reasons I've been consistently losing weight over the last couple of years.

I dont try to avoid it.  I roll around in it at night, naked.

HFCS EMPOWERS ME.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: TheClash603 on March 28, 2010, 01:56:48 PM
I like things that make me fat...  6' 205lbs, and damn proud of it.

Now if I get to 6', 250lbs...  then I may have an issue.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 29, 2010, 12:13:05 AM
I like things that make me fat...  6' 205lbs, and damn proud of it.

Now if I get to 6', 250lbs...  then I may have an issue.


lol true story: Im two inches taller than you , and weigh half of you
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on March 29, 2010, 01:16:25 AM
I like things that make me fat...  6' 205lbs, and damn proud of it.

Now if I get to 6', 250lbs...  then I may have an issue.

lol true story: Im two inches taller than you , and weigh half of you


Dude, 102.5 lbs is, is, is.... pixieish!?

Only my Mom is that skinny!

Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: TheClash603 on March 29, 2010, 06:53:29 AM
I like things that make me fat...  6' 205lbs, and damn proud of it.

Now if I get to 6', 250lbs...  then I may have an issue.


lol true story: Im two inches taller than you , and weigh half of you

Now I know I can beat you up and take your games.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: guyjin on March 29, 2010, 07:10:58 AM
I like things that make me fat...  6' 205lbs, and damn proud of it.

Now if I get to 6', 250lbs...  then I may have an issue.


lol true story: Im two inches taller than you , and weigh half of you
lol true story: Im two inches taller than you , and weigh half of you

umm, wow, are you anorexic? you have a BMI of 13; anything less is not survivable, long term.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: jperryss on March 30, 2010, 08:47:35 AM
This is an honest request:

I would like to find a "food" product that has ridiculous amounts of corn syrup + hydrogenated oil + salt/sodium + (optional) MSG + (optional) refined flour.

A killer combination, for sure.  But what can it taste like? That's what I want to know. I want to eat it, at least once.


It probably tastes like a donut.


Ask and ye shall receive.

http://consumerist.com/2010/03/introducing-the-bacon-donut.html

Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on March 30, 2010, 09:54:38 AM
This is an honest request:

I would like to find a "food" product that has ridiculous amounts of corn syrup + hydrogenated oil + salt/sodium + (optional) MSG + (optional) refined flour.

A killer combination, for sure.  But what can it taste like? That's what I want to know. I want to eat it, at least once.


It probably tastes like a donut.


Ask and ye shall receive.

http://consumerist.com/2010/03/introducing-the-bacon-donut.html




Dammit, I'll have to bring my own soy bacon and see what happens :)

Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Necromancer on March 30, 2010, 10:06:29 AM
Ask and ye shall receive.

http://consumerist.com/2010/03/introducing-the-bacon-donut.html


Drown it in maple syrup and I'm sold.  =P~
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: rag-time4 on March 31, 2010, 03:37:47 PM

umm, wow, are you anorexic? you have a BMI of 13; anything less is not survivable, long term.
I totally disagree. Body mass means littls compared to proper vitamin/miniral nourishment and blood sugar levels.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 31, 2010, 04:14:53 PM
lol, BMI.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Joe Redifer on March 31, 2010, 06:53:26 PM
If you are 6' 2" and only weigh 125 pounds, you must be a boney freak.  You probably have no muscle on you whatsover and do indeed look anorexic and ghoul-ish.  I am 6'0" and weighed 145 for the longest time and I was notoriously skinny at that time.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Tatsujin on March 31, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
If you are 6' 2" and only weigh 125 pounds, you must be a boney freak.  You probably have no muscle on you whatsover and do indeed look anorexic and ghoul-ish. 


like this?

(http://www.craigerscinemacorner.com/Images/BALE - THE MACHINIST.jpg)
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on March 31, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
Close enough

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Android77/IMG_1226.jpg)
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: RoyVegas on March 31, 2010, 07:32:56 PM
Close enough

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Android77/IMG_1226.jpg)


OMFG man!  EAT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU IMPLODE!!!!
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Tatsujin on March 31, 2010, 10:45:50 PM
(http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/30/pedo-snake-owner.gif)
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on April 01, 2010, 12:15:53 AM
If you are 6' 2" and only weigh 125 pounds, you must be a boney freak.  You probably have no muscle on you whatsover and do indeed look anorexic and ghoul-ish.  I am 6'0" and weighed 145 for the longest time and I was notoriously skinny at that time.

Let's be nice. I prefer we use the term "pixieish" from my earlier post :)

Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Joe Redifer on April 01, 2010, 06:59:26 AM
LOL Arkhan!
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Turbo D on April 01, 2010, 12:20:46 PM
I too would like to rofl @ Arkhan. I don't think he is too skinny or anything, he just looks hilarious in that pick.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: oldskool on April 08, 2010, 09:17:29 PM
No, sitting around on our fat asses, doing nothing, eating too much, and not exercising is probably what's making us fat.  Not probably, it IS what's making us a bunch of fatties.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on April 08, 2010, 11:10:08 PM
its de-evolution of the human body.

we werent designed to sit around all day and herpderp around our electronics, but its becoming increasingly common to do so.

hell, even elevators man.   Everyone that isnt physically disabled that takes them up ONE FRIGGING FLOOR, needs to be wacked with a bat.  It takes longer to wait for the bastard, and ride it up than it does to walk your lazy ass up the steps.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: oldskool on April 09, 2010, 07:07:20 AM
(http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/30/pedo-snake-owner.gif)


That's just freakin' funny, I had to watch that a few times to see their reactions..  hahahaha.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: mongler on April 09, 2010, 12:54:13 PM
I hate pop, because I know how unhealthy it is for me, yet I continue to drink it.  It's like a drug in it's own way.  I am a fool. 
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: oldskool on April 09, 2010, 10:17:35 PM
I'm a sucker for energy drinks.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on April 10, 2010, 12:11:51 AM
I hate pop, because I know how unhealthy it is for me, yet I continue to drink it.  It's like a drug in it's own way.  I am a fool. 

well it kinda is a drug, sorta.  with the caffeeeeene and all. :)


Its like a mild form of drinkable speed!

but dayum is it good.



they make some pop (Jones), thats made with real sugar again instead of high fructose corn slayer 
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on April 10, 2010, 12:22:04 AM
I hate pop, because I know how unhealthy it is for me, yet I continue to drink it.  It's like a drug in it's own way.  I am a fool. 

Yes, exactly. It is a drug for me, as well. Except, I love diet sodas (artificial sweetener taste = heaven), so I am probably developing a brain tumor instead of enduring the obesity-inducing effects of high fructose corn syrup.



they make some pop (Jones), thats made with real sugar again instead of high fructose corn slayer 

I wish Jones would have a line of diet sodas using artificial sweeteners. Just kidding. Well, no, actually, I'm not kidding, but Jones would never do that.
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on April 10, 2010, 01:05:18 AM
they make a sugar free pop or two.  Ive got a bottle of it here.  It tastes like crap.  :)
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on April 10, 2010, 01:17:10 AM
they make a sugar free pop or two.  Ive got a bottle of it here.  It tastes like crap.  :)

One man's crap is another man's :)
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on April 10, 2010, 01:34:53 AM
yes.  My dads diabetic, and cringes when he drinks regular pop.  Sometimes our pops get mixed at restaurants and we both sip at the same time and go

>_<

and trade, lol.

 
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: esteban on April 10, 2010, 01:48:47 AM
yes.  My dads diabetic, and cringes when he drinks regular pop.  Sometimes our pops get mixed at restaurants and we both sip at the same time and go

>_<

and trade, lol.

 


hahahahahhahaa. That's what happens when I accidentally take a sip of regular Coke.

I was going to say something else, but, uhhhhhh.... oh, I can't remember.

My brain hurts a bit.

Now where's my Diet Coke?

(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/04-09-09_Diet_Coke.jpg)

NOTE: Apparently, our discussions of soda are cyclical, because this picture is from 04.09.09! EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO!

I was going to resurrect the old thread seen in the pic (COLA WARS), but, well... nahhhhh.


Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Arkhan on April 10, 2010, 08:19:36 AM
Coke is the only pop for me.

Pepsi tastes like armpit
Title: Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup may be making you fat.
Post by: Digi.k on April 10, 2010, 11:17:36 PM
ugghh I miss the fizzy stuff especially dr pepper and cherry coke