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Title: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on March 28, 2010, 03:17:08 PM
Hey folks. You might have heard that Netflix Discs for Wii Arrived in Homes (http://www.slipperybrick.com/2010/03/netflix-discs-for-wii-arrive-in-homes/) recently.

I wish I had known about this sooner, because I would have requested one sooner, instead of a minute ago:

(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/wii_netflix.jpg)

I already use Roku for my other TV's, but I have a TV in a guestroom with no fancy streaming options, so now the Wii will provide a bit more fun.

Hopefully, once the Netflix licensing agreement/contract with Microsoft changes, PS3 and Wii users won't have to use the silly discs.

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on March 28, 2010, 05:31:02 PM
we've been doing this with the 360 recently- pretty damn cool stuff!  Is the Wii just as good?
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 28, 2010, 08:59:45 PM
Oh, I guess I should check the mail box. I'm going to use the hell out of this.

EDIT: It wasn't out there.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Tatsujin on March 28, 2010, 10:19:47 PM
what do you guys stream?
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on March 29, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
what do you guys stream?


Netflix has a decent selection of crappy movies and television shows available to stream to your computer/hardware. The funny thing is that I love the second- and third-tier garbage :)

Some recent stuff I watched via Netflix streaming:
The Day of the Triffids (1981- BBC miniseries) -- I re-watched this... I just friggin' love it. I watched it as a kid on PBS and I am so happy to see it again.
Pierrot Le Fou (1965) -- What can I say? I like Godard and all the gorgeous, frustrated people he has in his films.   
Masculin Feminin (1966) -- ""
Band of Outsiders (1964) -- ''
Carnival of Souls (1962) -- good stuff!
entire series of Pink Panther (1969-1979) animated cartoons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Panther_cartoon) (fantastic! I think I like them more now than when I was a kid)
entire series of Fraggle Rock
Pee Wee's Big Adventure
Howard the Duck

Using Roku (http://www.roku.com/roku-channel-store): Netflix videos, Pandora, MLB.com, twit.tv. 

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 29, 2010, 07:47:38 PM
People who like whatever the newest blockbuster POS is will not like Netflix instant so much, but for me, its fantastic.

Recently (in the last year) watched:

All of Knight Rider, Cosmos, Yes Minsiter, Around the World in 80 Days (Michael Palin version), The Story Teller (both series) Red Dwarf, and The Good Life.

A lot of Waiting for God, Inspector Gadget, All Creatures Great and Small, Faulty Towers, Ripping Yarns, Doctor Who, Mystery Science Theater 3000.

Also, Blues Brothers, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, DC Cab, and a bunch of other movies.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on March 30, 2010, 01:37:37 AM
People who like whatever the newest blockbuster POS is will not like Netflix instant so much, but for me, its fantastic.

Recently (in the last year) watched:

All of Knight Rider, Cosmos, Yes Minsiter, Around the World in 80 Days (Michael Palin version), The Story Teller (both series) Red Dwarf, and The Good Life.

A lot of Waiting for God, Inspector Gadget, All Creatures Great and Small, Faulty Towers, Ripping Yarns, Doctor Who, Mystery Science Theater 3000.

Also, Blues Brothers, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, DC Cab, and a bunch of other movies.

Hahahhahaa. I haven't watched some of those shows for years. Good stuff :) .  I see you might be a current/former PBS junkie like myself. Ripping Yarns used to play on WNYC here in NYC... I remember an episode about an East Berliner making a plane out of toilet paper to escape? He had many opportunities to escape, but was so obsessed with completing his plane he stayed in East Berlin? I think that was the best episode, IIRC.

Too bad Blakes 7 isn't available. I bought a lot of VHS tapes back in the day when PBS stopped airing episodes... but I don't think all of the seasons were released in North America.

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 30, 2010, 06:23:51 AM
Its not so much PBS as it is BBC, but yeah, as an American I'm familiar with that stuff mostly because of PBS.

Ripping Yarns isn't that awesome, but its a lot better than Jabberwocky. I've never seen Blake's 7. I'd like to.

I also watched Quark, the whole thing, even though its awful. I guess I just like TV from the 70s.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on March 30, 2010, 06:30:17 AM
Its not so much PBS as it is BBC, but yeah, as an American I'm familiar with that stuff mostly because of PBS.

Ripping Yarns isn't that awesome, but its a lot better than Jabberwocky. I've never seen Blake's 7. I'd like to.

I also watched Quark, the whole thing, even though its awful. I guess I just like TV from the 70s.

Yeah, I remember being disappointed by Ripping Yarns back in the day. I haven't seen Quark, I should check that out.

I love 70's-80's TV. Good stuff.

You should definitely check out Blakes 7, if you can watch it in sequence and the quality is decent. I wouldn't ruin your experience by watching crappy video quality, though, because it deserves better!

Also, if you've never seen Secret Agent Man (Danger Man in UK), then you deserve to treat yourself. I loved it as a kid, and I personally prefer the "solve problems via wits instead of brawn" philosophy to the show! It's great :)

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Vecanti on April 01, 2010, 03:56:27 PM
Is the Wii just as good?

I got my disc today and it looks really good.  I had big doubts that Wii could play Netflix smoothly.  I used ORB to stream movies from my computer to the Wii for a while and it's pretty awful.  I can watch movies on my phone with ORB and they look great, but the Wii just couldn't do it. 

Very excited about this.   Watch a lot of stuff like MS3K.  There are faily new movies on their like the Proposal.  I watch a lot of Sci-fi stuff, but there is quite a good selection of TV shows on there I think. 

It's pretty nice though.  Best $8.99 I spend a month. 
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on April 02, 2010, 04:18:19 AM
Is the Wii just as good?

I got my disc today and it looks really good.  I had big doubts that Wii could play Netflix smoothly.  I used ORB to stream movies from my computer to the Wii for a while and it's pretty awful.  I can watch movies on my phone with ORB and they look great, but the Wii just couldn't do it. 

Very excited about this.   Watch a lot of stuff like MS3K.  There are faily new movies on their like the Proposal.  I watch a lot of Sci-fi stuff, but there is quite a good selection of TV shows on there I think. 

It's pretty nice though.  Best $8.99 I spend a month. 

YAY! When did you request your disc? Maybe I'll get my disc today.

I'm excited because the Wii is just sitting there, hardly used, and now it will be useful :)

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Vecanti on April 02, 2010, 10:00:01 AM
Is the Wii just as good?

I got my disc today and it looks really good.  I had big doubts that Wii could play Netflix smoothly.  I used ORB to stream movies from my computer to the Wii for a while and it's pretty awful.  I can watch movies on my phone with ORB and they look great, but the Wii just couldn't do it. 

Very excited about this.   Watch a lot of stuff like MS3K.  There are faily new movies on their like the Proposal.  I watch a lot of Sci-fi stuff, but there is quite a good selection of TV shows on there I think. 

It's pretty nice though.  Best $8.99 I spend a month. 

YAY! When did you request your disc? Maybe I'll get my disc today.

I'm excited because the Wii is just sitting there, hardly used, and now it will be useful :)


A month and a half ago maybe?  I saw it on Slashdot and went and requested it right away. 

It showed up on my Netflix accout Wednesday and it showed "Shipping for Thrusday - Wii Disc" or something like that. 

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on April 02, 2010, 11:50:48 AM

It showed up on my Netflix accout Wednesday and it showed "Shipping for Thrusday - Wii Disc" or something like that. 


Crap, I haven't seen it on my account yet. I only requested it a few days ago... BASTARDS! Send out that disc already...

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 02, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
I assume they are waiting for another production run of the disc. I signed up for mine about a month ago and haven't gotten a shipping notice yet either. I remember them telling me about the PS3 disc (which I've never used) before they sent it to me.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on April 02, 2010, 03:14:13 PM
I assume they are waiting for another production run of the disc. I signed up for mine about a month ago and haven't gotten a shipping notice yet either. I remember them telling me about the PS3 disc (which I've never used) before they sent it to me.

Yeah, I just called customer service (less than a minute on hold!) and they told me they do not have an ETA for my disc. They are still sending out discs for all the folks who signed up when the offer initially opened up.

The service rep said we would definitely get an email notice before it ships.

I was really hoping to get this disc in a few days... but I don't know if that will happen.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Vecanti on April 02, 2010, 05:50:07 PM
I assume they are waiting for another production run of the disc. I signed up for mine about a month ago and haven't gotten a shipping notice yet either. I remember them telling me about the PS3 disc (which I've never used) before they sent it to me.

Yeah, I just called customer service (less than a minute on hold!) and they told me they do not have an ETA for my disc. They are still sending out discs for all the folks who signed up when the offer initially opened up.

The service rep said we would definitely get an email notice before it ships.

I was really hoping to get this disc in a few days... but I don't know if that will happen.


You can download the disc.  I don't think it's really illegal or anything as you have to activate your Wii to your account.  You have to have a way to boot standard DVDs on your Wii though.  I don't do any of that stuff so I don't know what is invloved hardware/software?  ( I do have homebrew as I have programmed some simple SDL things for my Wii but have no need to boot DVDs)
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 03, 2010, 09:40:58 AM
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to messing with this yet. I'll just wait for the disc to come in the mail.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 12, 2010, 06:39:53 AM
Netflix sent me an email saying that I'll have the disc tomorrow. Wii!
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: nat on April 12, 2010, 07:04:27 AM
Please report when you get it and have had a chance to give it a trial run. I'm seriously considering dumping my current Blockbuster membership in favor of this, but I need to know the streaming quality is good enough.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 15, 2010, 06:48:30 PM
OK, I got it the other day and have since watched a bunch of stuff. The Muppets Take Manhattan, That Mitchell and Webb Look, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, more stuff.

Basically, I'm really impressed. The interface is great, the browsing is actually snappier than it is in OSX, the video quality is identical to what I see on my computers...except better, because my TV has better color for movies.

Even though I see stalling in the videos on the Nintendo Channel regularly, I haven't seen even one stutter while watching the Netflix disc.

My only complaint, and its a very minor one, is that you need a disc at all when the 360 version runs from internal storage. I don't...understand that, but its not a big deal.

Basically, home f*cking run.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Necromancer on April 16, 2010, 02:56:49 AM
My only complaint, and its a very minor one, is that you need a disc at all when the 360 version runs from internal storage. I don't...understand that, but its not a big deal.

The discs are Netflix's way of circumventing the exclusivity agreement they made with Microsoft.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Turbo D on April 16, 2010, 05:02:33 PM
 :-s So, Nintendo will not let you play dvds on the Wii, but it will let you use Netflix to watch movies? Wtf! They went through all of the trouble of making customers perceive their media  as "optical discs," only to have movies played on their console anyways? The Wii is an oxymoron. :x
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 17, 2010, 06:13:03 PM
:-s So, Nintendo will not let you play dvds on the Wii, but it will let you use Netflix to watch movies? Wtf! They went through all of the trouble of making customers perceive their media  as "optical discs," only to have movies played on their console anyways? The Wii is an oxymoron. :x

Well, a lot has changed since the Wii came out. Netflix Instant didn't even exist back then. Netflix wanted to make the disc since all sorts of people are looking for ways to use their service on something besides a computer. What's Nintendo supposed to do, deny the license? I don't see what the point would be in that.

As for the DVD, I'm not sure why Nintendo left it out, but I think it just has to do with keeping the purpose of the machine focused, and keeping costs down. Adding DVD playback to the machine that is consistent with the PS3 and 360 would require higher end video, a SPDIF of some sort, and license fees for DVD video, Dolby Digital, DTS, and whatever else. This may only add up to as low as $1 extra per console, but since they've sold 65 million units at this point that would be at least $65 million that they wouldn't have to spend giving people their 4th or 5th or 10th DVD player that they probably don't even care about.

After all Nintendo is primarily a game company. They need to make money from their systems. Whereas Microsoft will probably have to wait until their next system is mature in order to finally break even on the billions they lost on the 1st XBox, and Sony...Sony is just f*cked. They seem to be in a downward spiral trying to cram as much tech as possible into every machine making them more and more difficult to de-content years down the road, and therefore harder to profit from, and harder to lower prices on.

As inscrutable as many of Nintendo's methods seem to be (Why do Pokemon games always have such terrible graphics? Why to the Layton games take f*cking forever to get localized?) they are so far and away the winner of this current console war profit-wise, while at the same time not really seeming like they are actually in it.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Arkhan on April 17, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
at least the Wii is now getting games that arent lame ass wiimote gimmicks.

:D
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 17, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
Yeah, I just got my Wii a few months ago, so there are plenty of cool new things for me to play. People who bought one at launch grew so bored with it getting only one decent game every 9 months that they don't even bother looking in the Wii section of the store anymore.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Arkhan on April 17, 2010, 08:27:36 PM
Thats me! :)

I liked Trauma Center 1 & 2, the super swing golfs, and like, dragon quest swords, then I got bored.

:D


the good games were few and far between forever!
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on April 25, 2010, 05:56:08 AM
Please report when you get it and have had a chance to give it a trial run. I'm seriously considering dumping my current Blockbuster membership in favor of this, but I need to know the streaming quality is good enough.

I haven't noticed any stuttering with the Wii. The problem with the Wii is that it outputs crappy video (composite). Netflix streaming from 360, PS3, Roku support HDMI and higher quality video. While Netflix doesn't have true HD content now, it will eventually.

Now, that said, it is nice to use the Wii to stream content... especially since a lot of stuff I watch (old tv shows) are only available in standard quality, anyway.

I have the $9 month plan: A-list DVD's in mail + B-list streaming content = worthwhile.


Bottom line:
1. Nintendo sucks for not supporting HDMI, otherwise, it would be on par with Netflix service for other hardware platforms...OK

2. Wii + watching stuff on your computer/laptop = good deal.

3. Wii + computer + 360/Roku/PS3/iPad/etc. = excellent deal.

ANECDOTE: I just watched one of the first episodes for 21 Jump Street. It was insanely ridiculous and awesome. I barely remembered anything from it (I haven't seen it since it aired). I can't wait to watch more!
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Vecanti on April 25, 2010, 06:59:51 AM
1. Nintendo sucks for not supporting HDMI, otherwise, it would be on par with Netflix service for other hardware platforms...OK

Ha ha!  It's like when I got my TurboGrafx 16 (upgraded from a NES).  I was like like, "yo yo yo ( I talked like Sylvester Stallone a lot when I was a kid) this thing ain't got the yellow video connector thing, ftw? I have to buy a TurboBooster to get a yellow plug?   But My 1985 NES has it built in!" 

I had a Commodore 1702 monitor (which had no RF in) only video.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on April 25, 2010, 09:55:46 AM
The Wii with a component cabe (or even composite, honestly) is more than Netflix Instant deserves quality-wise. The compression varies from "slightly better than DVD" to "even worse than DVD". If I can see artifacts on a 15" CRT...why would I want HDMI? So I can see even more flaws in the video? IMO the low-end hardware smooths over the flaws nicely.

In theory, really good video could be offered soon. For example, the streaming video that you see while watching movie trailers from Apples site is almost impossible to believe. For now though, its just Comcast-grade junk, and it will be years before we see anything like that...and even when we do, I don't think its going to make a 35 year old episode of Doctor Who look any nicer.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: nat on April 26, 2010, 12:08:47 PM
Please report when you get it and have had a chance to give it a trial run. I'm seriously considering dumping my current Blockbuster membership in favor of this, but I need to know the streaming quality is good enough.

I haven't noticed any stuttering with the Wii. The problem with the Wii is that it outputs crappy video (composite).

You do know the Wii does component, right? That's the way I have it hooked up.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on May 03, 2010, 05:19:18 PM
Please report when you get it and have had a chance to give it a trial run. I'm seriously considering dumping my current Blockbuster membership in favor of this, but I need to know the streaming quality is good enough.

I haven't noticed any stuttering with the Wii. The problem with the Wii is that it outputs crappy video (composite).

You do know the Wii does component, right? That's the way I have it hooked up.

Tell me more! :)

It still doesn't excuse the lack of HDMI support, though. Am I right?

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: nat on May 03, 2010, 05:28:46 PM
That's true, but component is still better than nothing. All you need is a Wii component cable.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on May 03, 2010, 06:11:17 PM
That's true, but component is still better than nothing. All you need is a Wii component cable.

Best place (cheapest) to purchase?
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: Necromancer on May 04, 2010, 03:39:41 AM
Best place (cheapest) to purchase?


It's hard to go wrong with MonoPrice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10830&cs_id=1083007&p_id=5689&seq=1&format=2).
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 04, 2010, 04:45:35 AM
I bought mine from Best Buy when I bought my Wii. Its Nintendo Brand. Unlike HDMI, cable quality matters with component. I do what I can to avoid situations like the TZD Duo AV cable. f*cking piece of shit...or that 3rd party component cable I bought for my PSP, that thing is even worse.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on May 05, 2010, 03:45:47 PM
I bought mine from Best Buy when I bought my Wii. Its Nintendo Brand. Unlike HDMI, cable quality matters with component. I do what I can to avoid situations like the TZD Duo AV cable. f*cking piece of shit...or that 3rd party component cable I bought for my PSP, that thing is even worse.


How much did you pay, roughly?


Best place (cheapest) to purchase?


It's hard to go wrong with MonoPrice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10830&cs_id=1083007&p_id=5689&seq=1&format=2).


I've had an overall good experience with monoprice. Of course, I received a few of crappy items over the years... but that does not discourage me at all.

Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 05, 2010, 07:01:29 PM
I think it was $35, meaning the profit from that cable was probably more than the Wii itself.
Title: Re: Netflix streaming for Wii
Post by: esteban on May 08, 2010, 02:01:16 AM
I think it was $35, meaning the profit from that cable was probably more than the Wii itself.

Hahhahahahaa. Truer words were never uttered. :)