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		NEC PC-Engine/SuperGrafx => PC Engine/SuperGrafx Sales & Trades => Topic started by: gundarN on May 19, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
		
			
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				Hello and sorry for not posting for ages (not played my PC Engine for a while).
 
 I'm looking to sell my Sapphire (original, not the boot version), but I don't know its current value.
 Can anyone advise?
 
 (http://www.we-play-games.com/admins/darn/console/pce/sapphire1.jpg)
 Fake on left, original I'm selling on right.
 
 Sorry if I am breaking any rules.
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				I'm interested in buying it sending a PM  :D
			
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				Anyone got an idea of value?
 I'm sure it must have cost me about $300, but that was a while ago.
 Maybe its gone up or down since then.
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				Anyone got an idea of value?
 I'm sure it must have cost me about $300, but that was a while ago.
 
 
 I would still wait for some more clarification but I'm pretty sure it's still at about that same price.
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				Is it factory sealed?  Or is that just a protective cover?
			
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				Is it factory sealed?  Or is that just a protective cover?
 
 Just a cover. I always play the games I own.
 Hopefully it is now sold (pending payment).
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				Good to hear that the sale is underway: now you can tell us the market value! :)
			
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				I bought this from the sellar for $340 shipped from the UK.
 Payment sent!
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				sicboy, was that for a complete with spinecard?
			
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				sicboy, was that for a complete with spinecard?
 
 Yeah, complete with spinecard and no scratches etc.
 Re-invested the money in an XRGB-3 which should make my PCE (and other retro stuff) look real nice.
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				I was just wondering if Sicboy057's Sapphire purchase included the spinecard.  I see yours does GundarN.  What's the best way to identify a legit from a fake?  I've read about the Arcade logo in the corner is different (original is darker I believe, which the photos up top confirm.)
			
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				This page (http://web.archive.org/web/20080612232612/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/sapcomp1.html) is about as good as it gets for telling the two versions apart.
			
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				its worth about ten bucks.  but ill buy it for 8.50
			
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				This page (http://web.archive.org/web/20080612232612/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/sapcomp1.html) is about as good as it gets for telling the two versions apart.
 
 Yeah, that's the page I used before I bought mine to know what was what, but the fact the seller included the real one and a fake, I couldn't go too far wrong.
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				thanks for the link nat
			
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				i would even buy the Bootleg. the fact that the bootleg is out there and well known makes it a collectable to me.
			
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				I'm guessing here's your chance for the bootleg, and sealed at that:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170490263480&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
			
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				Or, uh, you could get one directly from the source (http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/) for half the price.
			
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				I bought one from "the source" years ago for something like $38. At that price was totally worth it, but paying $100 or whatever for a fake is just stupid.
 
 Now he seems to be selling open ones for that price, and sealed ones for more than twice that. Whether of not 'sealed' means anything with   f*cking pirate soft...is up to the buyer to decide, I guess.
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				I sold my bootleg version for £30 a while back.
 I thought it was a fair price, although I do feel bad about bootlegs in general.
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				I bought one from "the source" years ago for something like $38. At that price was totally worth it, but paying $100 or whatever for a fake is just stupid.
 
 
 Yeah me too, it seems shortly after I got mine he jacked the price up to $65 or something, which I thought was ridiculous. Now it's $100 which is insane. However, the $40 for an "open" copy is a decent deal if you're just looking to play the game without spending insane amounts of cash.
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				do you need the arcade cards for the bootleg and if so which one?
			
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				do you need the arcade cards for the bootleg and if so which one?
 
 
 depends on what system
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				i have PCE duo black i belive i need the blue duo card.
			
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				Either Arcade Card will work on a Duo.
			
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				I've still not had confirmation that this was delivered...
			
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				Are there two Sapphires on that pic?
			
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				Are there two Sapphires on that pic?
 
 At one point I had a genuine and a bootleg copy.
 Now I have none: both sold.
 
 I should really get another boot just so I can play it now and again.
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				its worth about ten bucks.  but ill buy it for 8.50
 
 
 I offer $20
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				Hey Henry - yea, Sapphire complete mint w/spine card, registration card, legit can be had in Japan for about $275 to $450 brand new sealed.  I've bought 2 for $275 each used.  Re-Sold it the first time (since I played it on a crappy TV, I was not impressed by it at all), but the one I bought recently, I really was blown away since my TV is upgrade and man, Sapphire's effects are ridiculous and it's a great shooter, even though I hate overhead shoot em ups!    
 
 Best way to tell fake / non-fake is looking at the inner CD band.  IF it doesnt say HGCD, it's a fake!
 
 thanks for the link nat
 
 
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				OK everbody, using the info on the page that Nat posted:
 http://web.archive.org/web/20080612232612/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/sapcomp1.html
 
 And buying a bootleg copy of Sapphire from this page:
 http://ebay.hazard-city.de/sapp/xxx2.html
 
 For comparison:
 Bootleg on left, (Arcade logo is pixelated and lighter on Bootleg, Legit Arcade logo is solid)
 (http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2241/p7290289.jpg)
 
 Bootleg on bottom (top of kanji is more orange on bootleg, more yellow on legit)
 (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8615/p7290288.jpg)
 
 Bootleg sealed (Legit spinecard blue "Arcade" is darker and solid)
 (http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1525/p7290287.jpg)
 
 Bootleg on bottom (see white border around screenshots on bootleg, no border on legit copy)
 (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8984/p7290285.jpg)
 
 Hope these pics help you when you're trying to ID a legit copy!  These were the easiest to spot on a sealed copy (IMHO)
 
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				nice post Henry.  Hope these helps folks to not get-ripped off.  
 
 I've been away too long... currently in Vietnam but will be back soon from this looooong business trip.  Will be back on the boards soon upon my return :)
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				Hey Tokei eat some Pho while out there!!
			
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				hahhaha, I CERTAINLY did OPE!!  they even gave me some crazy stinky shrimp guts sauce that was too much for me... but great food regardless.  I can't wait to get home though so I can start playing the haul I grabbed from Tokyo.... 
 
 Hey Tokei eat some Pho while out there!!
 
 
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				Did I read $40 for an open bootleg? ....what's the link to find that at? Lol
			
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				Did I read $40 for an open bootleg? ....what's the link to find that at? Lol
 
 
 See henry's post at the top of the page.  :wink:
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				Am I missing something? The ebay link on henry's post has it at $100? Ill pay 40 for a boot, not a penny more
			
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				Am I missing something? The ebay link on henry's post has it at $100? Ill pay 40 for a boot, not a penny more
 
 
 
 Both nat and henry provided links to the bootlegger's website, but here it is again: http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/
 
 It looks like you're out of luck, though, as the price has risen a bit to $45 (including shipping).  :|
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				Yes,
 You need to email Tobias if you want to get it, appears his stock is getting low.  I think he's now out of the Space Fantasy Zone and of course the Ebay prices on that are ridiculous!
 
 Am I missing something? The ebay link on henry's post has it at $100? Ill pay 40 for a boot, not a penny more
 
 
 
 Both nat and henry provided links to the bootlegger's website, but here it is again: http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/
 
 It looks like you're out of luck, though, as the price has risen a bit to $45 (including shipping).  :|
 
 
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				Bastards! 
 
 Thanks for the link Necro,
 
 I usually look at these forums on my phone, and I cannot see links in single words, only typed-out urls. Thanks for "spelling it out" for me ;-)
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				Will the bootleg copy trash my US duo like a crappy cd-r does? I think I might swing for this...
			
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				Will the bootleg copy trash my US duo like a crappy cd-r does? I think I might swing for this...
 
 
 Since the Sapphire boots are commercially pressed discs (just like any other game), they won't cause any troubles;  Space Fantasy Zone is a different story, as they're CDRs.