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Title: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on May 19, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
Hello and sorry for not posting for ages (not played my PC Engine for a while).

I'm looking to sell my Sapphire (original, not the boot version), but I don't know its current value.
Can anyone advise?

(http://www.we-play-games.com/admins/darn/console/pce/sapphire1.jpg)
Fake on left, original I'm selling on right.

Sorry if I am breaking any rules.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Otaking on May 19, 2010, 10:35:06 PM
I'm interested in buying it sending a PM  :D
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on May 19, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
Anyone got an idea of value?
I'm sure it must have cost me about $300, but that was a while ago.
Maybe its gone up or down since then.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: RoyVegas on May 20, 2010, 06:34:08 AM
Anyone got an idea of value?
I'm sure it must have cost me about $300, but that was a while ago.

I would still wait for some more clarification but I'm pretty sure it's still at about that same price.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on May 20, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
Is it factory sealed?  Or is that just a protective cover?
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on May 20, 2010, 09:10:49 PM
Is it factory sealed?  Or is that just a protective cover?
Just a cover. I always play the games I own.
Hopefully it is now sold (pending payment).
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Turbo D on May 20, 2010, 11:06:55 PM
Good to hear that the sale is underway: now you can tell us the market value! :)
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: sicboy057 on May 21, 2010, 02:17:53 AM
I bought this from the sellar for $340 shipped from the UK.
Payment sent!
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on May 21, 2010, 05:50:17 AM
sicboy, was that for a complete with spinecard?
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on May 21, 2010, 06:00:40 AM
sicboy, was that for a complete with spinecard?
Yeah, complete with spinecard and no scratches etc.
Re-invested the money in an XRGB-3 which should make my PCE (and other retro stuff) look real nice.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on May 22, 2010, 04:34:41 AM
I was just wondering if Sicboy057's Sapphire purchase included the spinecard.  I see yours does GundarN.  What's the best way to identify a legit from a fake?  I've read about the Arcade logo in the corner is different (original is darker I believe, which the photos up top confirm.)
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: nat on May 22, 2010, 08:33:59 AM
This page (http://web.archive.org/web/20080612232612/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/sapcomp1.html) is about as good as it gets for telling the two versions apart.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: turbogrfxfan on May 22, 2010, 08:57:23 AM
its worth about ten bucks.  but ill buy it for 8.50
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on May 22, 2010, 09:45:03 AM
This page (http://web.archive.org/web/20080612232612/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/sapcomp1.html) is about as good as it gets for telling the two versions apart.
Yeah, that's the page I used before I bought mine to know what was what, but the fact the seller included the real one and a fake, I couldn't go too far wrong.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on May 22, 2010, 11:56:33 AM
thanks for the link nat
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: shonenx on May 23, 2010, 03:14:13 PM
i would even buy the Bootleg. the fact that the bootleg is out there and well known makes it a collectable to me.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on May 23, 2010, 04:09:48 PM
I'm guessing here's your chance for the bootleg, and sealed at that:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170490263480&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: nat on May 23, 2010, 05:21:54 PM
Or, uh, you could get one directly from the source (http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/) for half the price.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: SignOfZeta on May 23, 2010, 06:33:12 PM
I bought one from "the source" years ago for something like $38. At that price was totally worth it, but paying $100 or whatever for a fake is just stupid.

Now he seems to be selling open ones for that price, and sealed ones for more than twice that. Whether of not 'sealed' means anything with   f*cking pirate soft...is up to the buyer to decide, I guess.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on May 23, 2010, 10:27:52 PM
I sold my bootleg version for £30 a while back.
I thought it was a fair price, although I do feel bad about bootlegs in general.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: nat on May 25, 2010, 01:19:49 PM
I bought one from "the source" years ago for something like $38. At that price was totally worth it, but paying $100 or whatever for a fake is just stupid.

Yeah me too, it seems shortly after I got mine he jacked the price up to $65 or something, which I thought was ridiculous. Now it's $100 which is insane. However, the $40 for an "open" copy is a decent deal if you're just looking to play the game without spending insane amounts of cash.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: shonenx on June 01, 2010, 03:22:01 PM
do you need the arcade cards for the bootleg and if so which one?
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: turbogrfxfan on June 01, 2010, 03:34:58 PM
do you need the arcade cards for the bootleg and if so which one?

depends on what system
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: shonenx on June 01, 2010, 04:18:44 PM
i have PCE duo black i belive i need the blue duo card.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: nat on June 07, 2010, 05:49:42 PM
Either Arcade Card will work on a Duo.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on June 07, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I've still not had confirmation that this was delivered...
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Tatsujin on June 08, 2010, 01:38:45 AM
Are there two Sapphires on that pic?
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: gundarN on June 09, 2010, 09:01:11 PM
Are there two Sapphires on that pic?
At one point I had a genuine and a bootleg copy.
Now I have none: both sold.

I should really get another boot just so I can play it now and again.
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: turbo_sage on June 16, 2010, 07:44:58 AM
its worth about ten bucks.  but ill buy it for 8.50

I offer $20
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: JapanTokei on June 20, 2010, 06:54:13 AM
Hey Henry - yea, Sapphire complete mint w/spine card, registration card, legit can be had in Japan for about $275 to $450 brand new sealed.  I've bought 2 for $275 each used.  Re-Sold it the first time (since I played it on a crappy TV, I was not impressed by it at all), but the one I bought recently, I really was blown away since my TV is upgrade and man, Sapphire's effects are ridiculous and it's a great shooter, even though I hate overhead shoot em ups!   

Best way to tell fake / non-fake is looking at the inner CD band.  IF it doesnt say HGCD, it's a fake!

thanks for the link nat
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on July 29, 2010, 02:21:20 PM
OK everbody, using the info on the page that Nat posted:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080612232612/www.superpcenginegrafx.com/sapcomp1.html

And buying a bootleg copy of Sapphire from this page:
http://ebay.hazard-city.de/sapp/xxx2.html

For comparison:
Bootleg on left, (Arcade logo is pixelated and lighter on Bootleg, Legit Arcade logo is solid)
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2241/p7290289.jpg)

Bootleg on bottom (top of kanji is more orange on bootleg, more yellow on legit)
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8615/p7290288.jpg)

Bootleg sealed (Legit spinecard blue "Arcade" is darker and solid)
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1525/p7290287.jpg)

Bootleg on bottom (see white border around screenshots on bootleg, no border on legit copy)
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8984/p7290285.jpg)

Hope these pics help you when you're trying to ID a legit copy!  These were the easiest to spot on a sealed copy (IMHO)
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: JapanTokei on August 03, 2010, 03:32:40 AM
nice post Henry.  Hope these helps folks to not get-ripped off. 

I've been away too long... currently in Vietnam but will be back soon from this looooong business trip.  Will be back on the boards soon upon my return :)
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Opethian on August 03, 2010, 04:06:01 AM
Hey Tokei eat some Pho while out there!!
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: JapanTokei on August 04, 2010, 02:14:25 AM
hahhaha, I CERTAINLY did OPE!!  they even gave me some crazy stinky shrimp guts sauce that was too much for me... but great food regardless.  I can't wait to get home though so I can start playing the haul I grabbed from Tokyo....

Hey Tokei eat some Pho while out there!!
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Gogan on August 06, 2010, 02:08:14 AM
Did I read $40 for an open bootleg? ....what's the link to find that at? Lol
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Necromancer on August 06, 2010, 02:24:41 AM
Did I read $40 for an open bootleg? ....what's the link to find that at? Lol

See henry's post at the top of the page.  :wink:
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Gogan on August 06, 2010, 03:03:32 AM
Am I missing something? The ebay link on henry's post has it at $100? Ill pay 40 for a boot, not a penny more
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Necromancer on August 06, 2010, 03:30:46 AM
Am I missing something? The ebay link on henry's post has it at $100? Ill pay 40 for a boot, not a penny more


Both nat and henry provided links to the bootlegger's website, but here it is again: http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/

It looks like you're out of luck, though, as the price has risen a bit to $45 (including shipping).  :|
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: henrycsc on August 06, 2010, 03:50:21 AM
Yes,
You need to email Tobias if you want to get it, appears his stock is getting low.  I think he's now out of the Space Fantasy Zone and of course the Ebay prices on that are ridiculous!

Am I missing something? The ebay link on henry's post has it at $100? Ill pay 40 for a boot, not a penny more


Both nat and henry provided links to the bootlegger's website, but here it is again: http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/

It looks like you're out of luck, though, as the price has risen a bit to $45 (including shipping).  :|
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Gogan on August 06, 2010, 04:00:48 AM
Bastards!

Thanks for the link Necro,

I usually look at these forums on my phone, and I cannot see links in single words, only typed-out urls. Thanks for "spelling it out" for me ;-)
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Gogan on August 06, 2010, 04:34:57 AM
Will the bootleg copy trash my US duo like a crappy cd-r does? I think I might swing for this...
Title: Re: Sapphire
Post by: Necromancer on August 06, 2010, 04:47:58 AM
Will the bootleg copy trash my US duo like a crappy cd-r does? I think I might swing for this...

Since the Sapphire boots are commercially pressed discs (just like any other game), they won't cause any troubles;  Space Fantasy Zone is a different story, as they're CDRs.