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Title: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on August 09, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
As a starter, the well known Last resort :)

Beginning 1st Lvl:
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/26725/1041029-lr1_super.jpg)

Stolen from Akira:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/Ufozacky2k/3-1.jpg)


The crater (@ 1st Lvl Boss)
(http://www.neo-geo.com/snk/screenshots/Last Resort2.gif)

Stolen from Akira:
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/9443/akira.png)

:edit: corrected
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on August 10, 2010, 07:04:43 PM
Here is an other one from Daimakaimura (Ghouls 'n' Ghosts):

The background at the 4th Boss:
(http://www2.hp-ez.com/img/papico/dama_26.gif)
(http://www.din.or.jp/~reader/action/diary/img/0504/050408.gif)

Is stolen (taken) from NausicaƤ (風の谷のナウシカ):
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3752/naushika2.png)

As well the Boss itself is obviously inspired from the Ohmus (オーム):
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/kTPBmZrykqebq9w3EAvMZBoko1_500.jpg)

Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Saibot on August 10, 2010, 07:15:19 PM
Totally unrelated...but the theme music from Darius Burst sounds like a remix of the theme from the movie Braveheart. I swear...

Darius Burst
Braveheart
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Joe Redifer on August 10, 2010, 08:29:11 PM
Tats, I'm surprised you didn't post Thunder Blade vs Blue Thunder!

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8414/thundernewc.png)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on August 11, 2010, 02:35:59 AM
Yeah, I wanted do that later, when I'm out of fuel  :P

But thanx anyway for posting it :)

And now, please some of yours  :wink:
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ceti alpha on August 11, 2010, 05:03:39 AM
haha. Nice tats! Very interesting. Whoever made Last Resort was definitely a fan of Akira.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: TR0N on August 11, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
Blade Runner
(http://www.blade-runner.it/images/gallery/tyrell-corp/snap021.jpg)
Snatcher
(http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/snatcher/snatcher-pce1.png)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on August 11, 2010, 04:01:25 PM
Yeah BL <> Snatcher is obvious. It is so to say the inofficial video game of it :lol:

(http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/12/iheartsydmead.jpg)(http://www.jjau.8m.com/kremlin/screenshots/intro/snatcher_021.jpg)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ceti alpha on August 11, 2010, 05:53:25 PM
 :lol:

That is awesome!
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on August 11, 2010, 06:10:56 PM
And back again on Last Resort (altough no BG but an enemy).

The first mech enemy in Lvl 1..
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7371/lastresort1.png)

..is stolen from Gundam (MSM-03C Hygog):
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/244/lastresort2.png)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ceti alpha on August 12, 2010, 04:31:49 AM
Totally unrelated...but the theme music from Darius Burst sounds like a remix of the theme from the movie Braveheart. I swear...

Darius Burst http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmfrjkaRGEw&feature=related
Braveheart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AN04imFDK8



I missed this sai. Very cool. Very, very close to Braveheart.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on September 23, 2011, 06:48:51 PM
Here's a new discovery while watching silent running the other day :)

The spacey green houses in Silent Running..
(http://www.cityofsound.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/08/silentrunning1.jpg)

..were recycled in Super Aleste.
(http://www.shmup.com/images/thumbs/SuperAlesteSFC.jpg)



and one from our dear forum member ccovell, posted on assembler a while ago:

Quote
I always figured they were ripping off Roger Dean's art. Many artists were "inspired" by Roger Dean.


Here's Cyber Lip:
(http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/images/cybe0022.gif)

And an album cover by Dean:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:d_PUzSfK9IJxdM:http://tripledose.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/One_Fine_Morning.jpg&t=1)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ceti alpha on September 23, 2011, 06:51:48 PM
Cyber Lip! Nice spotting, tats!
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on September 23, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
Cyber Lip! Nice spotting, tats!

That was acctually spotted by ccovell :)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: rag-time4 on September 23, 2011, 07:53:28 PM
I have one but not teh pics to prove it!!
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on September 23, 2011, 09:14:32 PM
tell me about. may be i can find em :)

i usually use yuotube grabs for the pictures, if i cant find some real ones on the net.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: sunteam_paul on September 23, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Obvious Ohmu is Obvious in Formation Armed-F

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9256/armedfohmu.jpg)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on October 03, 2011, 03:21:59 AM
nice one :)

here two new entries :)

Title screen from the PCE shooter Hani in the Sky:
(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/323661-hani-in-the-sky-turbografx-16-screenshot-titles.png)

A fame art print from M.C. Escher called another world:
(http://www.leninimports.com/m_c_escher_another_world_art_print.jpg)

 Title screen in the Japanese home computer versions of Might and Magic:
(http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/mightandmagic/mm1-pc98-title.png)

Art by the late Frank Frazetta:
(http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/mightandmagic/frazetta-atlantisa.jpg)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: TR0N on October 03, 2011, 06:16:36 PM
Red Sonja
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Red_sonja_film_poster.jpg)
U.S Cover art for Alisia Dragoon
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Alisia_Dragoon_PAL.jpg)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: MotherGunner on October 04, 2011, 07:39:15 AM
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/MotherGunner/doesthiscount.jpg)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: SignOfZeta on October 04, 2011, 10:33:32 AM
Red Sonja

U.S Cover art for Alisia Dragoon

I don't get it.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Ninja Spirit on October 04, 2011, 11:21:01 AM
Portions of Astro Man's stage from Megaman/Rockman 8 reference MC Escher too.
(http://11squared.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/relativity.jpg)

(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/008/3/7/Astro_Man_Level_Loop_BRAWL__D_by_fakescaper.jpg)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Ninja Spirit on October 04, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
Full Metal Jacket/NAM-1975
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Oldschoolage/NAMFMJ.png)

The Goonies II box art/ "Jewel of the Nile" theatrical poster
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Oldschoolage/GJ.png)

Contra Spirits (Contra III-JP)/Raw Deal
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Oldschoolage/GC.png)

The sprite on the title screen of "The Kung Fu/China Warrior"/ Game of Death
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Oldschoolage/Untitled-4.jpg)

Dark Adventure/Devil World Japanese flyer / Return of the Jedi
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/Oldschoolage/Majuujedi.jpg)

Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: MotherGunner on October 04, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
Lol I love how they used Indiana Jones...
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: TheClash603 on October 04, 2011, 12:27:46 PM
Some of these are great, like "Dark Adventure/Devil World Japanese flyer / Return of the Jedi."

Some of them are ridiculous stretches.  Fun thread nonetheless!
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on October 04, 2011, 04:08:29 PM
Very nice stuff up there, but please don't start to hijack this thread with cover comparisons, we had that already few times.
In this thread the game pendant must be at least a pixled version of the original e.g. a back grounds, a title screens etc. everything is ok.

Za Kung-Fu and NAM are supercool ;)

THX :)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: TR0N on October 04, 2011, 06:28:09 PM
Red Sonja

U.S Cover art for Alisia Dragoon

I don't get it.
I just compare that,since i hear it all the time the character for alisa on the u.s cover art kind of looks like red sonja.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: nodtveidt on October 05, 2011, 07:21:48 AM
The sprite on the title screen of "The Kung Fu/China Warrior"/ Game of Death
To be completely fair... this particular kick is not uncommon in some forms of Chinese martial arts.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on October 05, 2011, 01:25:08 PM
The sprite on the title screen of "The Kung Fu/China Warrior"/ Game of Death
To be completely fair... this particular kick is not uncommon in some forms of Chinese martial arts.

To be completely fair as well... this particular kick got quite popular because of bruce lee used it a lot on screen.

And we all know who plays the main character in za kung fu/china warriors.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on October 05, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
sorry for the frowsy work, did it on my work :lol:

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/663/brucevs.gif)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: nodtveidt on October 05, 2011, 06:14:26 PM
They're booting each other. Who will win?
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ccovell on December 16, 2011, 11:46:47 AM
Just discovered this one.  Not from a movie, but an instance where an Amiga game rips off a game console's art.  Quite common in the European PC world, too.   [-X

Fushigina Blobi- (A Boy and his Blob) GB, 1990
(http://www.suruga-ya.jp/database/pics/game/265000190.jpg)
http://www.suruga-ya.jp/database/265000190001.html

and P.P. Hammer, Amiga, 1991
(http://www.exotica.org.uk/mediawiki/files/thumb/1/14/PPHammer.jpg/250px-PPHammer.jpg)
http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/File:PPHammer.jpg
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 16, 2011, 06:34:59 PM
What the f*ck?

First, there is a game called "P.P. Hammer"? I thought this was a PP Hammer:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41DPaR8purL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Since it makes a "Pi!" noise when you hit something with it.

Secondly, those two images are extremely similar, but not actually identical in any way. Is it possible that they are two different drafts of the same concept and they just got sent to two different publishers by the same freelancer? While its better than %90 of all TG-16 cover art, its hardly anything worth "ripping off".
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: esteban on December 17, 2011, 01:26:01 AM
While its better than %90 of all TG-16 cover art, its hardly anything worth "ripping off".

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ccovell on December 17, 2011, 01:27:36 AM
I never said they were identical... but P.P. Hammer is clearly ripping off the art for Blobby.  Rip-offs usually take the same composition and linework, but add things like moustaches (Star Wars -> Chase H.Q.), sunglasses, and change the hairstyles of characters in the pic.

Some aspects of this pair of pics are in fact nearly identical: His hairstyle & yellow glow, the hat & shading on it, The blob's eyes, the angle of the dungeon wall, torch placement, backpack straps, jeans outline, and even the presence of 3 shaved (?) stripes in his hair.  Jaleco and Demonware did not hire the same artist; the latter copied art ideas from the former.  :-k
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: esteban on December 17, 2011, 01:38:41 AM
Jaleco and Demonware did not hire the same artist; the latter copied art ideas from the former.  :-k

Don't worry, Zeta dropped his DS in his Rice Crispies this morning and was cranky when he made that post :)

For the record, though, I love Rice Crispies.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on December 17, 2011, 03:07:21 PM
It's also obvious that the former artwork clearly came out of a japanese feather, while the latter one is kinda ugly western crap style.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 17, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
Jaleco and Demonware did not hire the same artist; the latter copied art ideas from the former.  :-k

Don't worry, Zeta dropped his DS in his Rice Crispies this morning and was cranky when he made that post :)

For the record, though, I love Rice Crispies.


I don't see what's so cranky about my post. I'm just...baffled. Its not traced or actually copied, it (whichever one is the knock-off) is built up again from scratch. This would make sense of they were knocking off a Giger Alien or a Gundam or something, but is this dipshit with a jackhammer actually considered such a brilliant concept that its worth stealing? Both images are pretty C-.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: esteban on December 17, 2011, 06:07:31 PM
Jaleco and Demonware did not hire the same artist; the latter copied art ideas from the former.  :-k

Don't worry, Zeta dropped his DS in his Rice Crispies this morning and was cranky when he made that post :)

For the record, though, I love Rice Crispies.


I don't see what's so cranky about my post. I'm just...baffled. Its not traced or actually copied, it (whichever one is the knock-off) is built up again from scratch. This would make sense of they were knocking off a Giger Alien or a Gundam or something, but is this dipshit with a jackhammer actually considered such a brilliant concept that its worth stealing? Both images are pretty C-.

I think it went down like this:

A Boy and His Blob (GB) --> "inspiration" --> P.P. Hammer

I don't think the similarities are merely coincidental.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: ccovell on December 17, 2011, 07:23:29 PM
I think Zeta is questioning the quality of the original pic.  Which was never implied.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 17, 2011, 08:35:36 PM
I think Zeta is questioning the quality of the original pic.  Which was never implied.

I'm questioning the risk/reward ratio of steeling these lame-ass characters. Even a shitty drawing like those still takes hours to complete. Why not draw something about a million times cooler? Because...anyone could, honestly. Shmoo and a retard with a power tool. It was not some sort of magic archtype that made A Boy and His Blob so popular.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: esteban on December 18, 2011, 03:17:31 AM
I think Zeta is questioning the quality of the original pic.  Which was never implied.

I'm questioning the risk/reward ratio of steeling these lame-ass characters.

And yet, we have overwhelming evidence that folks do this (risk/reward):

(1) plagiarism is not simply the domain of lazy students, but even accomplished/professional artists/writers/poets (there is actually a lot of interesting academic work on this subject...digitizing texts has allowed researchers to identify "suspect" passages! It's crazy.)

(2) Professional "legit" websites scrape content from other sites.

(2.5) Electronic publications routinely use photos/illustrations without crediting original source or paying royalties. My friend is constantly requesting modest fees for the few places that actually want to use his photography.

(3) Homage vs. rip-off (it's a fine line, wouldn't you say? "Paying respect" vs. "Being too damn lazy")

(4) But wait! This was 1990-91: LIFE IN THE PRE-INTERNET WORLD:

     P.P. Hammer artist, circa 1991: "What are the chances that anyone will ever identify my source material, a Japanese-only illustration for a Gameboy title?"

     P.P. Hammer artist, moments later: "Even if the source material is identified, my paycheck will have been long-spent!  Plus, it's an homage, anyway."

I would suggest that the crucial observation is not:

"Plagiarizing is too risky, especially when minimal extra effort would result in an original work."

but rather:

"Desperation/laziness/ignorance/brazen disregard for content creators --> leads to plagiarization, even in a post-1991 digital world that allows for quicker identification of plagiarism."

Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on December 18, 2011, 12:18:19 PM
a good write :)
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: rag-time4 on December 18, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
I think Zeta is questioning the quality of the original pic.  Which was never implied.

I'm questioning the risk/reward ratio of steeling these lame-ass characters. Even a shitty drawing like those still takes hours to complete. Why not draw something about a million times cooler? Because...anyone could, honestly. Shmoo and a retard with a power tool. It was not some sort of magic archtype that made A Boy and His Blob so popular.
Zeta I think the points you bring up, ie that plagiarizing such a lame original is absurd, is what makes this a fun thread.

On the topic of plagiarism, I once came across a sports article written by Ron Tillery of the Memphis Commercial appeal circa 2006-2007 that contained segments lifted verbatim from an article written earlier in 2006 by Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle. No credit was given to Feigen.

The ironic thing was that Feigens original article began with an inaccuracy and was written as a biased hatchet job of a player that Feigen didnt like. So plagiarism certainly happens, even from flawed and bogus originals.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: HercTNT on December 18, 2011, 03:19:30 PM
I think nausicaa has been ripped off in more than a few games. The first real boss you face in crystalis on the nes is a giant bug in a toxic jungle. Looks just like the ones from nausicaa.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: SignOfZeta on December 18, 2011, 04:56:21 PM
I think nausicaa has been ripped off in more than a few games. The first real boss you face in crystalis on the nes is a giant bug in a toxic jungle. Looks just like the ones from nausicaa.

Yeah. I think Biohazard Battle wouldn't even exist if not for Nausicaa. Nausicaa was HUGELY popular in Japan in the 80s, topping the Animage character poll for something like 7 years.
Title: Re: teh "from Movies/Animes stolen Videogame Backgrounds" - Thread
Post by: Tatsujin on June 06, 2013, 05:27:36 PM
derboo from HCG101 took the idea one step further and summarized a whole bunch of examples :)

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/tracing.htm

enjoy^^