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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Sales & Trades => Topic started by: enix2093 on March 01, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
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SLAP CHOP!!!
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I guess the big question is, what are you looking to get for this game? I used to have it years ago, and been looking to get it again. Just with the ebay prices.. ugh.. So, what are ya looking to get for it? Cuz, I would be interested in it. :) PM me.
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I looked around and those ebay prices aren't far away from the ones on racketboy (the only place I could find with solid pricing), so considering that article is from last year I'd say there's amazingly non-insane.
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/turbografx-16/2010/07/the-rarest-most-valuable-pc-engine-turbografx-16-games.html
How about $255 shipped?
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I will pass. Thanks anyway. :)
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I sold my *near mint* game to a guy at the Midwest Gaming Classic for $100. I purchased it as part of a 2 SCD's for $69.99 from TZD, so I felt like a shit just selling it and making that much profit.
If you want $255 you might as well pop the beast on freakin' eBay man.
With that said I'll take it off your hands for $100.
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Eat shit and go to eBay. You're an utter fool for thinking we'd want to pay you a premium over the already ridiculous eBay gouge jobs - at least there you'd have to pay their fees and the buyer would get some protection.
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Yes that is way to high... i paid no more than $100 for mine as well and its in sweet shape...
Have you posted this game on any other forums you visit, any offers? i bet when you tell them the price they hit the road.
Sorry, but your getting hit over the head with the big reality stick... It f@cking hurts but its the truth as harsh as it comes out sometimes.
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I got mine on ebay for just 65$ and that was 2 years ago. 255$ is just ridiculous.
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Your references, pictures, and detailed description are all very nice, but you'd do well to rethink your pricing. Most members here help each other out and are very quick to criticize any perceived price gouging (in fact, we have a perpetual thread about it). A lot of new, often well-intended, sellers show up thinking the prices they've seen on ebay are an accurate guideline and they tend to get run out of town pretty damn fast.
I bought a complete w/poster copy for $80 sometime around 2007 and that was on ebay. You could probably get over a hundred now, even on these forums. Accept reasonable offers and you'll find a warmer welcome and good deals returned in the future (like free Sapphire reprints). Stick to the ebay mindset you might as well move along.
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I paid $60 for my copy recently, but it came without a poster. I'd be willing to pay $20ish for that damn poster alone...
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I bought mine for $70, but it also was without a poster. I don't think the poster makes it worth an additional $150, however.
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Wow, thanks to all of you for shitting on me and accusing me of gouging on a game that I openly admitted that I have no clue on the value. I based my price off of the only two sources I had, but if you guys would rather be dicks than be civil, I won't bother lowering the price for any of you and I'll just take it elsewhere and sell it for less. Maybe before shitting all over me, if you bothered to look my links (which I took down now) you'd see I've always sold rare items for the going price or less...but that's fine. I'll take the rest of my collection elsewhere.
Way to welcome a new user.
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Beyond Shadowgate
What you see is what you don't get...
MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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Wow, thanks to all of you for shitting on me and accusing me of gouging on a game that I openly admitted that I have no clue on the value. I based my price off of the only two sources I had, but if you guys would rather be dicks than be civil, I won't bother lowering the price for any of you and I'll just take it elsewhere and sell it for less. Maybe before shitting all over me, if you bothered to look my links (which I took down now) you'd see I've always sold rare items for the going price or less...but that's fine. I'll take the rest of my collection elsewhere.
Way to welcome a new user.
Well another whiney douche gone..don 't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Crybaby bitches, even after mostly positive comments. \
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Wow, thanks to all of you for shitting on me and accusing me of gouging on a game that I openly admitted that I have no clue on the value. I based my price off of the only two sources I had, but if you guys would rather be dicks than be civil, I won't bother lowering the price for any of you and I'll just take it elsewhere and sell it for less. Maybe before shitting all over me, if you bothered to look my links (which I took down now) you'd see I've always sold rare items for the going price or less...but that's fine. I'll take the rest of my collection elsewhere.
Way to welcome a new user.
Listen bud, everyone with one exception was perfectly nice in pointing out your high asking price. No one shit on your thread, but with that kind of attitude we're better off without you. See ya!
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:shock: Well, this guy has reveled his true colors. I was civil but it looks like he didn't even read my post.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, acting as if they're not really trying to rip us off and that they don't just know any better. Maybe immediately jumping down their throat really is the right thing to do. And then he crosses everything out as if we missed out on a good deal. :roll:
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No, I crossed everything out because you guys acted like total f*ckfaces about it...and I left my references behind on pricing because it's f*cking true, dickwad. I only have two sources I found for pricing. Show me somewhere else that it's listed with a price and I'd have considered adjusting.
Am I supposed to take your word when you offer me $100 for a game I clearly see listed and selling for $200+? I mean, really?
Values on shit change. Panzer Dragoon Saga was $40 when I bought it, but then skyrocketed to over $250...not my fault. Should I turn it for $40 because that's what I bought PDS for a couple years ago?
If you guys must know, I bought this for $160 a couple years back, so I could only assume it went up in value as it got older and more obscure.
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The guy selling the Dynastic Hero a couple of months ago also referred to the Racketboy "omg rare $$$" thread on Racketboy as one of his price guides.
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8624.0
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I didn't make racketboy prices, and I don't usually go by pricing on ebay either. I have nowhere else to get pricing on this game...and I'm not about to take the word of people who are making offers for it. "Oh yeah, this game totally goes for like #25. I'll offer $20..hurrrr." Usually my pricing comes from the lowest prices I can find...being that ebay and racketboy were the only references I could find on the net, I priced accordingly.
Its too bad there isn't a free price guide somewhere out there other than VGPC and they just use amazon and ebay for pricing averages.
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The guy selling the Dynastic Hero a couple of months ago also referred to the Racketboy "omg rare $$$" thread on Racketboy as one of his price guides.
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8624.0
lol, and the first reply was exactly the same from Necromancer and turboStar gave the same sob story like he did here. I'm beginning to think you guys are all on f*cking repeat mode.
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What you see is what you don't get...
I'm not gonna lie I laughed at that, now the picture of what will never be ours just sits there to taunt us.
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I was just getting at how that page probably causes more problems than anything.
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Well, maybe you guys should make a public page here that has a price listing...that may solve your problems with a$$holes like me showing up with only ebay and racketboy, and it would save Necromancer the trouble of having to pull his e-penis out and turboStar from slitting his wrists over the guilt of selling games at higher prices than he paid.
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I can't speak for everyone, but I do all my thinking with my E-Penis, thats why the government won't let me have a facebook page.
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I think I'm just gonna go post in other areas and give up on selling to you elitist [sic] f*cks, lol.
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Well, maybe you guys should make a public page here that has a price listing...that may solve your problems with a$$holes like me showing up with only ebay and racketboy, and it would save Necromancer the trouble of having to pull his e-penis out and turboStar from slitting his wrists over the guilt of selling games at higher prices than he paid.
I am sorry for the harsh welcome you received. Its just that high prices are kind of a sore spot here. If you have any interest in Turbo / PC engine gaming, there is a wealth of information and lots of passion to be found here.
Honestly, we have been actively discussing a solution to this problem concerning new users and sale threads. I'm not sure the exact solution yet, but we are working on it.
I guess I can boil it down to this... the active members on this site are unusually passionate about these systems (the PCE and TG etc) The recent artificial inflation of PCE/TG pricing as a result of ebay gougery (high BIN prices feeding even higher BIN prices) is very frustrating to us. These are games we love, and we'd like others to be able to enjoy them. When we see people buying just to scalp them for more money, it hurts. We'd like to see this stuff stay affordable to those who want to buy and play them. Too many times we've had new people come in here, post a for sale thread with high prices and leave. None of us mind paying reasonable prices on this stuff (and honestly, a lot of people here have the funds to do it!) but we're all pretty anti ebay / high prices.
Best of luck to you in selling your game. Hopefully you will get a fair price (maybe a bit more than you paid a few years ago) and hopefully whoever buys it does not turn right around a put it on ebay for a rediculous BIN price :cry:
BlueBMW :D
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I thought you were gone already. What are you still doing here?
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I don't know...tell me. I wouldn't want to say the wrong thing and set off the TG-bomb. Derp.
Anyways, I used to be huge into TG/PCE/FX shit back when I lived in Japan. I've kind of been out of the NEC loop for the past 3 years, so since I had no other pricing points to go off of, I figured what I used would have been semi-acceptable since there's really nothing else to reference.
I like how you guys shit all over ebay but then don't have any other resources available on any of the big NEC sites like this...just seems kind of counter-productive to me if you hate noobs and you hate new sellers and hate ebay prices, etc. You would think someone would make a pricing list and make it a sticky in the selling forums...that was new users/sellers would have SOMETHING to reference before setting you up the bomb.
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Damn, he really can insult. Give him his due.
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You guys may have percieved me as a hit-n-run, or one-post-hero, or f*cking noob, or someone who was about to just pussy out from the site over one post....that's not the case. But I stick to my guns and I'm not selling it here even if I do turn it for $100 elsewhere. The shitty attitude I recieved doesn't warrant a reward, so that's over and done.
That doesn't mean I'm gonna just disappear from a perfectly good forum for NEC discussion. I just think I'll take my overpriced wares elsewhere and make maximum profit.
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Why did you come over here to sell anyway? when it sounds like you have other forums you go to and have great feedback on, so go sell it there for the price you want or go to ebay if you want top dollar.
We are a community of Tg16/Pce gamers and collectors, we are not out to rip you off either, all we have done is told you what we have paid for the game...(with a few extra words here and there :P) you paid to much for your game.. dont get all bitter.
PS: you could have asked man what we thought was a fair price.
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I like how you guys shit all over ebay but then don't have any other resources available on any of the big NEC sites like this...just seems kind of counter-productive to me if you hate noobs and you hate new sellers and hate ebay prices, etc. You would think someone would make a pricing list and make it a sticky in the selling forums...that was new users/sellers would have SOMETHING to reference before setting you up the bomb.
I agree, it would be better to have some better guidelines for new sellers, if nothing else to give warning about the anti-ebay attitude here. As far as a price guide, I'm not sure the best way to go about such a thing. Maybe a wiki style chart where anyone who's purchased a particular game could add what they paid so we can get a more real world non-ebay price for things.
I'm just one guy here, and I too was a noob (just last summer infact) so I hate to see someone step into a pile of shit with their first foot through the door. I am sorry you got bombed on right away. Hopefully if you do decide to get back into Turbo / PCE stuff you'll come back. There really are a lot of good folks here. And if you ever need a system repaired, there's a whole team of very talented techie people here too!
Blue
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Just make a loose guide... like "Beyond Shadowgate - $60 - $120"
It doesn't have to be exact, just some kind of ranges so people have an idea what NOT to ask for shit...
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a$$holes like me
Quoted for truth
I like how you guys shit all over ebay but then don't have any other resources available on any of the big NEC sites like this...just seems kind of counter-productive to me if you hate noobs and you hate new sellers and hate ebay prices, etc. You would think someone would make a pricing list and make it a sticky in the selling forums...that was new users/sellers would have SOMETHING to reference before setting you up the bomb.
There are PLENTY of other sources. Plus I for one use Ebay quite regularly. I have common sense/patience not to wet myself over someone who has the OMGZ rare game.
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Why did you come over here to sell anyway? when it sounds like you have other forums you go to and have great feedback on, so go sell it there for the price you want or go to ebay if you want top dollar.
I do have other places to go, and I am selling at them...is that so hard to believe? I came here to expand my selling base. More prospective buyers = more chances of selling...hurrrr. Did I really need to explain that? I did put it on ebay, and I matched the retarded pricing there too, lol. I'm not gonna hide it. I jacked the price up to $275 and slapped it on ebay for a $0.05 listing fee. Maybe some sucker will bite. If not, I'll sell it elsewhere at a more reasonable price since I have recently been schooled (see posts #1-10).
I'm pretty much done selling here. I don't need a f*cking internet shitstorm in every sale thread - it's not worth the effort. I just want the money when I sell...not the heartache and pcenginefx veterans' drama. The last time I was at a forum with this many angry women, it was the rock band forums over at harmonix. Talk about PMS.
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Why did you come over here to sell anyway? when it sounds like you have other forums you go to and have great feedback on, so go sell it there for the price you want or go to ebay if you want top dollar.
I do have other places to go, and I am selling at them...is that so hard to believe? I came here to expand my selling base. More prospective buyers = more chances of selling...hurrrr. Did I really need to explain that? I did put it on ebay, and I matched the retarded pricing there too, lol. I'm not gonna hide it. I jacked the price up to $275 and slapped it on ebay for a $0.05 listing fee. Maybe some sucker will bite. If not, I'll sell it elsewhere at a more reasonable price since I have recently been schooled (see posts #1-10).
I'm pretty much done selling here. I don't need a f*cking internet shitstorm in every sale thread - it's not worth the effort. I just want the money when I sell...not the heartache and pcenginefx veterans' drama. The last time I was at a forum with this many angry women, it was the rock band forums over at harmonix. Talk about PMS.
If all you're going to do is whine like an angry woman (see above)...and bitch about this site f*cking leave, no ones stopping you. FUnny you complaining about how you are treated by throwing temper tantrum like a 8 year old. :roll:
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Well, maybe you guys should make a public page here that has a price listing...that may solve your problems with a$$holes like me showing up with only ebay and racketboy
PCengineFX Forums Price List
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Like i said before you could have just asked.
Enjoy your pissed off little world.... Yawn....
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Like i said before you could have just asked.
Enjoy your pissed off little world.... Yawn....
That's just what he did :arrow: "MAKE OFFERS!"
Then cru did what he asked for (see posts page 1).
Then he put it in for double+ the price he got recommended from the cru.
Then cru got upset.
Then he got upset.
Then everything got mad.
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PCengineFX Forums Price List
Well f*ck me in the ass...why doesn't that shit show up on Google?
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Like i said before you could have just asked.
Enjoy your pissed off little world.... Yawn....
We can play pot vs kettle all day, but the fact is that this forum has a very highly toxic environment for new users. You guys can sit around sucking each others' cocks all day and scare off all the fresh pussy if you want - that's fine. Doesn't bother me much. but if you want a growing "community" (as the image at the top of every page states), then you can't run off everyone who makes a pricing mistake or stupid post.
Oh, I know "it's the internet" is an easy out for all of you, but not everyone is internet hardened...and you're gonna end up just having your little click here, where cockwranglers like Necromancer pop into a new sale thread instantly and pull out their mangled e-cocks for everyone to see. Yay you. But good luck on anyone else coming here if you're gonna jump down their shit as soon as they show up and call them little bitches when they leave because they don't want to deal with your mental home bullshit.
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PCengineFX Forums Price List
Well f*ck me in the ass...why doesn't that shit show up on Google?
To be honest, I hadn't found that myself! And I've been crawling these forums for quite a while now. (mostly looking for repair advice)
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Like i said before you could have just asked.
Enjoy your pissed off little world.... Yawn....
We can play pot vs kettle all day, but the fact is that this forum has a very highly toxic environment for new users. You guys can sit around sucking each others' cocks all day and scare off all the fresh pussy if you want - that's fine. Doesn't bother me much. but if you want a growing "community" (as the image at the top of every page states), then you can't run off everyone who makes a pricing mistake or stupid post.
Oh, I know "it's the internet" is an easy out for all of you, but not everyone is internet hardened...and you're gonna end up just having your little click here, where cockwranglers like Necromancer pop into a new sale thread instantly and pull out their mangled e-cocks for everyone to see. Yay you. But good luck on anyone else coming here if you're gonna jump down their shit as soon as they show up and call them little bitches when they leave because they don't want to deal with your mental home bullshit.
Funny I've been here for some time and don't have problems with pron 95%+ of new members...only asshats that carry on like some wounded little kid that got his precious ego bruised. You keep carrying on..for what? If this place sucks so bad, it's REAL simple, leave. You have nothing better to do than try and reignite this shitstorm with more whinging?
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I think one of the other items you're selling is VERY fitting for you:
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Am I supposed to take your word when you offer me $100 for a game I clearly see listed and selling for $200+? I mean, really?
On the first page you had seven members quote prices they bought or sold for at $100 or less via sources at diverse as conventions, TZD, forum sales, and ebay. One of those members offered you $100, no one else offered you anything.
Values on shit change. Panzer Dragoon Saga was $40 when I bought it, but then skyrocketed to over $250...not my fault. Should I turn it for $40 because that's what I bought PDS for a couple years ago?
If you guys must know, I bought this for $160 a couple years back, so I could only assume it went up in value as it got older and more obscure.
Collectibles are more volatile than stocks. I hate to break it to you, but the price doesn't always go up. You got ripped off at $160 two years ago and it's not worth $250 today.
Best of luck to you in selling your game.
BlueBMW - it's really not worth being nice to this guy. I took the nice guy, explanatory, "he-doesn't-know-our-ways" approach and he called me a dickwad. In his already 19 posts he's said ass, shit, dick, pussy, penis, cock, and dropped a dozen f-bombs. He hasn't acknowledged any supportive comments or showed any sign of slowing down and being reasonable. This isn't the kind of guy we need to appeal to.
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Whoa!!! What in the heck is going on here guys? :( enix, I actually PMd you an offer, but I never heard back from ya. How did this thread turn in to something so hateful?
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Whoa!!! What in the heck is going on here guys? :( enix, I actually PMd you an offer, but I never heard back from ya. How did this thread turn in to something so hateful?
Bernie this happens so often it's not even funny in fact I think I was one of the first person to have read the original post and I instantly knew it will end up like this.
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Whoa!!! What in the heck is going on here guys? :( enix, I actually PMd you an offer, but I never heard back from ya. How did this thread turn in to something so hateful?
Bernie this happens so often it's not even funny in fact I think I was one of the first person to have read the original post and I instantly knew it will end up like this.
Look when "it ends up like this." Besides 1 post, the first what almost 10 posts were fairly cordial, after that he went on some ultra insulting tirade (which is the usual for gougers/fast buck/"1 and dones" around here, what do you expect, people to kiss his ass after that? :lol: :twisted: It seems the people that usually get shredded/get all douchey are the ones here just to make Ebay $ and jet.
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No nectarsis, I meant the thread in general. Not just us at him. I dont understand why he went on the cursing tyrant at all. Anyway, I guess he just got pissed. I dunno. Seems maybe all he wanted was to throw curses and name call. I actually sent him a message offering him 150.00, which I felt was reasonable. And, my PM was very cordial. According to the link he referenced us to, I am in the range. I see he has posted it on ebay, for a huge mark-up tho. If it doesnt sell, maybe he will consider my offer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beyond-Shadowgate-TurboGrafx-CD-DUO-COMPLETE-MINT_W0QQitemZ290540822904QQcategoryZ139973QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7473843252976076980
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hcxs4GEfPUM/SkFhcc9dc3I/AAAAAAAADh4/AXI-iutdpWs/s320/beysha21.png)
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hahaha, nice.
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Am I supposed to take your word when you offer me $100 for a game I clearly see listed and selling for $200+? I mean, really?
On the first page you had seven members quote prices they bought or sold for at $100 or less via sources at diverse as conventions, TZD, forum sales, and ebay. One of those members offered you $100, no one else offered you anything.
Values on shit change. Panzer Dragoon Saga was $40 when I bought it, but then skyrocketed to over $250...not my fault. Should I turn it for $40 because that's what I bought PDS for a couple years ago?
If you guys must know, I bought this for $160 a couple years back, so I could only assume it went up in value as it got older and more obscure.
Collectibles are more volatile than stocks. I hate to break it to you, but the price doesn't always go up. You got ripped off at $160 two years ago and it's not worth $250 today.
Best of luck to you in selling your game.
BlueBMW - it's really not worth being nice to this guy. I took the nice guy, explanatory, "he-doesn't-know-our-ways" approach and he called me a dickwad. In his already 19 posts he's said ass, shit, dick, pussy, penis, cock, and dropped a dozen f-bombs. He hasn't acknowledged any supportive comments or showed any sign of slowing down and being reasonable. This isn't the kind of guy we need to appeal to.
Now that my wrists are all healed up, I'm able to type again. :-$
Instead of jumping out with a $250 price point he should have just taken PM's offers and if nothing came up he could move on.
Good post Vesty :clap: :clap:
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Im an equal opportunity lover. :D
Actually I think I've dealth with this guy before on another forum. He was pretty reasonable and nice there.
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Well, power to you. You're a bigger man than me, I'm going over to the dark side. :)
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I see he has posted it on ebay, for a huge mark-up tho. If it doesnt sell, maybe he will consider my offer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beyond-Shadowgate-TurboGrafx-CD-DUO-COMPLETE-MINT_W0QQitemZ290540822904QQcategoryZ139973QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7473843252976076980
Well, it sold for $275 BIN in about 12 hours and Enix is now getting friendly with folks on the "f*ck ebay club" thread. Biggest hypocrisy I've seen since roy started "gouging much."
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You were pegged as trying to get paid as much as possible, so it looks like the advice to go to eBay paid off handsomely for you. You're welcome.
P.S. - Eat shit.
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at least he had the decency to give free shipping tho
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Did anyone notice that his ebay name is "Violent-Ed" :-k
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(http://wordspy.com/graphics/torch-and-pitchfork.jpg)
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hcxs4GEfPUM/SkFhcc9dc3I/AAAAAAAADh4/AXI-iutdpWs/s320/beysha21.png)
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its sad that someone will pay that much for the game, the prices will keep going up and up when the buyer decides to resell - "well i paid x amount for it 2 years ago... so i should at least get x+y for it now" gotta turn a profit i guess.
I'll have to hold out and hope to find a copy of BS at a somewhat reasonable price #-o
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I see he has posted it on ebay, for a huge mark-up tho. If it doesnt sell, maybe he will consider my offer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beyond-Shadowgate-TurboGrafx-CD-DUO-COMPLETE-MINT_W0QQitemZ290540822904QQcategoryZ139973QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7473843252976076980
Well, it sold for $275 BIN in about 12 hours and Enix is now getting friendly with folks on the "f*ck ebay club" thread. Biggest hypocrisy I've seen since roy started "gouging much."
Actually, dickface, if you took the time and effort that you spend on stalking me and looked at the timestamps, I posted in the ebay forum long before I made the auction....but I'm sitting $275 heavier in my pocket, so suck a cock and f*ck you, ya shit eating horsef*ck penis mongrel.
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Oh, and I'm still not planning on just disappearing from these forums, so don't get your hopes up unless a moderator wants to come along and vanish me personally.
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Again, you're welcome and eat shit.
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Actually, dickface, if you took the time and effort that you spend on stalking me and looked at the timestamps, I posted in the ebay forum long before I made the auction....but I'm sitting $275 heavier in my pocket, so suck a cock and f*ck you, ya shit eating horsef*ck penis mongrel.
Oh, and I'm still not planning on just disappearing from these forums, so don't get your hopes up unless a moderator wants to come along and vanish me personally.
With the continued 3rd grader tirade we can only hope a mod sees fit to give you the boot.
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I'm sorry I'm not at the 4th grade level like you are.
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I'm sorry I'm not at the 4th grade level like you are.
Bravo! Such wit and insightful banter.
(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen kane clapping.gif)
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I know, right?
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I'm sorry I'm not at the 4th grade level like you are.
Your retarded tirade posts, and level of anger management speak other wise. Maybe you have some slivers from your dildo bottle opener making you so irate :-k
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good to know you respect the buyer... "some jackass" as you refer to him/her over at the neo-geo forums.
Thanks for supporting the PCE scene - you are a real asset to the community!
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sold it to himself as another username
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He's gone.
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Better it is.
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Love the drama~~~~
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Yeah, but now it's over. Enjoy the rerun.
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I am not going to even bother looking at what transpired in this thread since I last checked it (when there were about 8-10 posts).
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I see he has posted it on ebay, for a huge mark-up tho. If it doesnt sell, maybe he will consider my offer.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Beyond-Shadowgate-TurboGrafx-CD-DUO-COMPLETE-MINT_W0QQitemZ290540822904QQcategoryZ139973QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7473843252976076980
Well, it sold for $275 BIN in about 12 hours and Enix is now getting friendly with folks on the "f*ck ebay club" thread. Biggest hypocrisy I've seen since roy started "gouging much."
Actually, dickface, if you took the time and effort that you spend on stalking me and looked at the timestamps, I posted in the ebay forum long before I made the auction....but I'm sitting $275 heavier in my pocket, so suck a cock and f*ck you, ya shit eating horsef*ck penis mongrel.
WTH?? You know, I am like not even 3 hours from this guy. I think I may take a trip. That was just uncalled for. A mod should consider deleting this entire thread. It makes the forum look bad.. :(
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WTH?? You know, I am like not even 3 hours from this guy. I think I may take a trip. That was just uncalled for. A mod should consider deleting this entire thread. It makes the forum look bad.. :(
Nnooooooooooooooooooooooo.
If we delete the thread then we'd just be Roy Vegas-ing ourselves.
Since you weren't here for that, I'll explain:
A guy named Roy Vegas started a thread called "Gouging Much?" where he and others posted links to eBay for TG-16 item auctions with very high BINs, or just game related rip-offs in general. This thread was very popular but after some time we all learned that Roy Vegas himself was part of the problem. Taking stuff he got here for reasonable prices and selling it to eBay people at insane markups, including essentially hand-made LE copies of Insanity Arkhan sent him for cheap.
Now, for some retarded reason it is possible on this forum to have semi-mod powers over your own threads.* That is, you can delete them once you made them. This takes out the entire thread and everything everyone posted to it. Of course this is what Roy Vegas did. By deleting the thread we not only lost all the good info there, but we also lost most of the story of how he is a huge hypocritical capitalistic a$$hole who was doing the very thing he was complaining about when he started the thread.
Roy was somewhat smart about his dicketry. He didn't do stupid shit and get banned, and he didn't "leave" in a huff. He kept his account going so he could a) destroy the evidence b) hang around and act like a decent person for a while in hopes will forget what a dick he is. If you mention what a dick he is in a thread (an opportunity several of us never miss) he acts all wounded and innocent. He has covered his tracks completely except for what is now 2nd hand anecdotal evidence. The whole thing is similar to Donald Rumsfeld going on TV a lot these days saying "golly gee" and all that in an effort to make us forget about the period, not so long ago, when we couldn't decide if he was more evil or more stupid.
If we delete this thread, we're doing this jerk a favor. He'll just tell everyone at other forums that we are cheap a$$holes that don't understand fair market value, and there won't be any reason to disbelieve him since we deleted the thread. There is a (autobiographical!) chapter in the book of PC Engine about this guy proving what an a$$hole he is, we would be foolish to rip it out.
If you are worried about making the forum look bad, I would refrain from suggesting you'd visit people in person on less than friendly terms.
* BTW, this is BS, IMO. I've actually had a guy deliberately misquote me in another thread, and then delete the thread that the original, un-doctored quote came from (which he could do since he created it) so that his version of what I said was the only thing left. The offending a$$hole has since gone (banned or "left" or some shit, I don't know) but I wouldn't be surprised to see it again.
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well said zeta... and for the truth.
That is why i dedicate my siganture to a special someone... let us not forget... :P
love ya roy and good riddance enix2093
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WTH?? You know, I am like not even 3 hours from this guy. I think I may take a trip. That was just uncalled for. A mod should consider deleting this entire thread. It makes the forum look bad.. :(
Nnooooooooooooooooooooooo.
If we delete the thread then we'd just be Roy Vegas-ing ourselves.
Since you weren't here for that, I'll explain:
A guy named Roy Vegas started a thread called "Gouging Much?" where he and others posted links to eBay for TG-16 item auctions with very high BINs, or just game related rip-offs in general. This thread was very popular but after some time we all learned that Roy Vegas himself was part of the problem. Taking stuff he got here for reasonable prices and selling it to eBay people at insane markups, including essentially hand-made LE copies of Insanity Arkhan sent him for cheap.
Now, for some retarded reason it is possible on this forum to have semi-mod powers over your own threads. That is, you can delete them once you made them. This takes out the entire thread and everything everyone posted to it. Of course this is what Roy Vegas did. By deleting the thread we not only lost all the good info there, but we also lost most of the story of how he is a huge hypocritical capitalistic a$$hole who was doing the very thing he was complaining about when he started the thread.
Roy was somewhat smart about his dicketry. He didn't do stupid shit and get banned, and he didn't "leave" in a huff. He kept his account going so he could a) destroy the evidence b) hang around and act like a decent person for a while in hopes will forget what a dick he is. If you mention what a dick he is in a thread (an opportunity several of us never miss) he acts all wounded and innocent. He has covered his tracks completely except for what is now 2nd hand anecdotal evidence. The whole thing is similar to Donald Rumsfeld going on TV a lot these days saying "golly gee" and all that in an effort to make us forget about the period, not so long ago, when we couldn't decide if he was more evil or more stupid.
If we delete this thread, we're doing this jerk a favor. He'll just tell everyone at other forums that we are cheap a$$holes that don't understand fair market value, and there won't be any reason to disbelieve him since we deleted the thread. There is a (autobiographical!) chapter in the book of PC Engine about this guy proving what an a$$hole he is, we would be foolish to rip it out.
If you are worried about making the forum look bad, I would refrain from suggesting you'd visit people in person on less than friendly terms.
* BTW, this is BS, IMO. I've actually had a guy deliberately misquote me in another thread, and then delete the thread that the original, un-doctored quote came from (which he could do since he created it) so that his version of what I said was the only thing left. The offending a$$hole has since gone (banned or "left" or some shit, I don't know) but I wouldn't be surprised to see it again.
Thank you for that, Zeta. I was wondering why people were hating on RoyVegas, because, personally, I didnt have a problem with him.
I was also MIA during the period where he exploited folks.
On a final note, I think that deleting threads is usually a bad idea: we lose evidence, but we also lose any useful comments/contributions of others.
I have tried to find old threads (for useful information), only to fond that they have been deleted. SO INFURIATING, especially when you think about what has been lost needlessly. One click of a button erases the historical record, literally.
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I'd like to see the user delete function removed as well. I was also absent when "gouging much" went down and have been hoping it would turn up on the Wayback Machine after the usual six-month lag so I could read the juicy bits. Unfortunately, the Wayback Machine doesn't even have anything from 2010 yet and they only archive about 30 pages each hit anyway, so it's unlikely we'll ever see the thread again. The incomplete google cache is now gone as well.
Going back to roy, buying an artist/programmer's work at a community discount and attempting to not only profit on it but also draw sales away from Arkhan's own DIY marketing (when he has no hope of ever recouping the year he sunk into making the game) is absolutely despicable. I can't believe this guy still has an account. Let us also not forget the MC debacle and rampant price inflating in general
Finally, this thread is great. enix really let me have it in that last post after I compiled all his potty mouthing. I'd like to remember it. It's also a amusing that a thread called "stinking pile", started by somebody who's no longer a member, continues to top the sales forum while honest friends and gamers struggle to legitimately buy and sell games. :)
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This thread will not be deleted, that's for sure, now that homeboy is gone.
The problem with the user delete function is this: users are allowed to delete their own posts. The issue arises when the post being deleted happens to be the first post in a thread. If that happens, in deleting the post the forum software also removes the pointer to the thread since the first post contains this pointer. All the remaining messages in the thread are now linked to a pointer that no longer exists. So they vanish.
I don't really think turning off users' ability to delete their own messages is the right solution, but it really is an all or nothing issue. The only way around the problem would be for me or another mod or admin to merge a thread in question into a new thread with a first post authored by someone else (preferably a mod or admin).
The problem there is, these things usually come to a boil pretty quickly and have the potential to vanish (see the original gouging thread) before anyone has a chance to perform an act of preservation.
As for Roy.... Aside from being an incredible douchebag, he hasn't ever really DONE anything to break the rules here. It could be argued he should be banned on principle alone, but I'll let Aaron make that call.
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The problem with the user delete function is this: users are allowed to delete their own posts. The issue arises when the post being deleted happens to be the first post in a thread. If that happens, in deleting the post the forum software also removes the pointer to the thread since the first post contains this pointer. All the remaining messages in the thread are now linked to a pointer that no longer exists. So they vanish.
If we got rid of delete post, but kept edit post, you would essentially allow the user to delete their own posts. They could delete what they say down to nothing. It seems like that would be more appropriate?
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The problem with the user delete function is this: users are allowed to delete their own posts. The issue arises when the post being deleted happens to be the first post in a thread. If that happens, in deleting the post the forum software also removes the pointer to the thread since the first post contains this pointer. All the remaining messages in the thread are now linked to a pointer that no longer exists. So they vanish.
If we got rid of delete post, but kept edit post, you would essentially allow the user to delete their own posts. They could delete what they say down to nothing. It seems like that would be more appropriate?
Yeah, being able to edit your own posts with no time limit is already something you can't do on a lot of forums. I think its pretty much good enough.
Like everyone, I say some shit sometimes that's controversial or often times just f*cking stupid. The difference between me and a lot of people though (FAPJAK, Roy Vegas, etc) is that I'll either a) stand by what I said, or b) admit I f*cked up and learn from my mistake. Deleting your old posts though...I don't want to sound like a total cheese ball, but real men don't do shit like that. Admit your mistakes or stand up for your decisions. Deleting your posts is pretty close to lying, since its basically like saying "I never said that", when in fact you did.
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These are good points... I'll see what I can do about this.
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Like everyone, I say some shit sometimes that's controversial or often times just f*cking stupid. The difference between me and a lot of people though (FAPJAK, Roy Vegas, etc) is that I'll either a) stand by what I said, or b) admit I f*cked up and learn from my mistake. Deleting your old posts though...I don't want to sound like a total cheese ball, but real men don't do shit like that.
Amen and +3 Cool Points.
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No, I crossed everything out because you guys acted like total f*ckfaces about it...and I left my references behind on pricing because it's f*cking true, dickwad. I only have two sources I found for pricing. Show me somewhere else that it's listed with a price and I'd have considered adjusting.
Am I supposed to take your word when you offer me $100 for a game I clearly see listed and selling for $200+? I mean, really?
Values on shit change. Panzer Dragoon Saga was $40 when I bought it, but then skyrocketed to over $250...not my fault. Should I turn it for $40 because that's what I bought PDS for a couple years ago?
If you guys must know, I bought this for $160 a couple years back, so I could only assume it went up in value as it got older and more obscure.
Ha ha LMAO over $250, for a PDS, are you effing kidding me, you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy off dude. I just nabbed my 2nd copy 6 months ago, gem mint condition for only $150. And about 3 months before that I nabbed a Sega Saturn Lot for $200(on ebay mind you)that came with 16 mint games(of which included PDS, PD1 and 2,Darius Gaiden,Street Fighter Alpha 2,Nights Into Dreams,Burning Rangers,Galactic Attack and a few other decent titles to boot) the system, all hookups, 2 reg controllers, 2 guns, and a 3D controller.
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LOL just realized after posting and further reading that this dude is no longer here :clap:
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LOL just realized after posting and further reading that this dude is no longer here :clap:
Its ok, the lulz remain :D